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October 15th, 2013 at 5:24:38 PM permalink
I'm just getting started on a new feature of the site to cover some of many running/biking paths in Las Vegas. As a fitness buff, I spend a lot of time on them. Here are four I've written up so far.

Western beltway trail
Trails Park trail
Angel Park trail
Rampart trail

What do you think?

I'm thinking of getting a model to pose in some future guides, to spice them up a bit.
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October 15th, 2013 at 5:30:50 PM permalink
A quick question. What is your opinion to riding on paved roads, with or against traffic ? Lots of bike lanes here in Grand Junction.
Another out-of-state student got killed here by a girl who drifted off hiway and hit biker.

I use bike lanes, but opposing traffic. I want a chance to avoid the drunk or texter who might kill me.

But so-called serious bikers say I am crazy. Be that as it may, what's your opinion !

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/d6b2cce7c1844ff7b431e610910ec93a/CO--Bicyclist-Killed


She was running late to a court hearing for drugs. Fell asleep in cop car on way to hospital and again on way to jail.
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October 15th, 2013 at 5:35:46 PM permalink
State law everywhere I've lived the last 30 years was biking with traffic or get a ticket. Grew up biking against traffic. Always felt safer seeing and avoiding even with the closure rate so much faster.

I like the trails; I would bike them and dog-walk them but not run them, except the 1/2 mile one. I so stink at running, even when I was in top shape.
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October 15th, 2013 at 5:43:18 PM permalink
I also figured out recently why Harley riders wont wear helmets.

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October 15th, 2013 at 6:07:06 PM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

A quick question. What is your opinion to riding on paved roads, with or against traffic ?



With. For one thing, if you go against traffic, cars making left turns across traffic won't generally check for bikers riding the wrong way.

The only exception might be at night if I don't have any lights, or only one in front. However, I almost never ride at night anyway.
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October 15th, 2013 at 6:07:19 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I'm just getting started on a new feature of the site to cover some of many running/biking paths in Las Vegas. As a fitness buff, I spend a lot of time on them. Here are four I've written up so far.

Western beltway trail
Trails Park trail
Angel Park trail
Rampart trail

What do you think?

I'm thinking of getting a model to pose in some future guides, to spice them up a bit.



I Bike a lot, I commute to work weather permitting and bike on the weekends. Own 2 decent bikes Trek Soho 3.0 and a Trek Navigator 700.
I probably do about 3k miles a year.
When commuting, I try to stick to sidewalks. I find bike lanes right next to cars very dangerous.

Glad you have trails in Vegas but they all look pretty boring. Where's the shade? 3 are very short. The Western I would consider a trail. I like the bridges. Its always nice when city's build bridges for bikes. Trails and Angel , I would consider a short bike ride and Rampart, 1/2 mile, you can coast a 1/2 mile sometimes.
They all look kind of boring. But then it is the desert, its to be expected I guess.
I got one here in Tampa right by my house, Upper Tampa Bay Trail. About 7 1/2 miles, beautiful, shade, view of river, water fountains, bridges and tunnels, so only 1 intersection to deal with. They spent a lot of tax dollars on it and for once, it was well spent.
I come from Maryland before moving to Tampa 10 yrs ago.
My favorite all time trail, Took my bike on the DC metro, get off near the White House, ride to Georgetown, follow the historic C & O Canal tow path north. Get to north dc, ride over to Rock Creek Park (parts closed to traffic on weekends) and ride through the park past the National Zoo back to Georgetown . Fantastic Trail. About 18 miles.
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October 15th, 2013 at 6:09:32 PM permalink
Henderson has more bike trails then Vegas does, did you know that you can ride the bike trail on the south side of the 215 and hit two casinos, here is a link to all the bike trails in Henderson. There is something for everybody!

http://www.mapmyride.com/us/henderson-nv/
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October 15th, 2013 at 6:12:47 PM permalink
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Henderson has more bike trails then Vegas does, did you know that you can ride the bike trail on the south side of the 215 and hit two casinos, here is a link to all the bike trails in Henderson. There is something for everybody! http://www.mapmyride.com/us/henderson-nv/



Thanks. Not to diminish that site, but I suspect some of those are bike lanes as opposed to trails. Once I finish with the best, I mean west, side of town I'll use that site to write up some Henderson trails. However, I already know the River Mountain loop is a high priority.
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October 15th, 2013 at 6:17:50 PM permalink
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Glad you have trails in Vegas but they all look pretty boring. Where's the shade?



When you live in the desert everything kind of looks the same. So, yes, they can be boring. Regarding shade, some of them have underpasses under streets.

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I come from Maryland before moving to Tampa 10 yrs ago. My favorite all time trail, Took my bike on the DC metro, get off near the White House, ride to Georgetown, follow the historic C & O Canal tow path north.



So do I. I rode from Glen Burnie to Anapolis often. That was the only trail somewhat close to where I lived. When in DC I took the C&O to Mount Vernon sometimes. There was also a dirt path going all the way to Pennsylvania, from Timonium, if I remember correctly.
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October 15th, 2013 at 6:31:28 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

When you live in the desert everything kind of looks the same. So, yes, they can be boring. Regarding shade, some of them have underpasses under streets.



So do I. I rode from Glen Burnie to Anapolis often. That was the only trail somewhat close to where I lived. When in DC I took the C&O to Mount Vernon sometimes. There was also a dirt path going all the way to Pennsylvania, from Timonium, if I remember correctly.


Wow, we've done a lot of the same trails. I took my bike on the metro, got off at Ronald Reagan National Airport, and biked that beautiful trail to My Vernon.
I did that Glen Burnie to Anapolis trail a bunch of times. I love Rails to Trail. That's like my 2nd all time favorite trail. Always fun to have a great destination as Anapolis at the end of a trail. I always wore my helmet so the guard would let me ride through the beautiful Naval Academy. Rode near a wedding in Dress Whites once, they yelled at me for inadvertently getting close. Lunch in Anapolis and then back to trail head near BWI airport.
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October 19th, 2013 at 6:16:50 PM permalink
I just added a page for the Pueblo Park Trail.
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October 19th, 2013 at 6:21:22 PM permalink
If you ever want to see a city that is nuts about biking, come to Portland.

It is insane.

Not necessarily in a good way, either.

Lots of rabid bikers who feel they can duel with cars, and win.

And let's not talk about the indescipherable, impossible to understand special "green" lanes for bikes throughout the heart of the damned city.

Keep Portland Weird, indeed.
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October 19th, 2013 at 6:46:47 PM permalink
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Keep Portland Weird, indeed.



Too bad you don't accept PM's, I'd send you
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October 19th, 2013 at 6:49:00 PM permalink
How long would the RED ROCK CANYON be?

Do bikes get in Free there?
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October 19th, 2013 at 7:48:19 PM permalink
Thanks for posting the bike trail information, maps and pictures. I may be able to use them to entice my wife to travel to Las Vegas again this year. She is an avid bicyclist and regularly peddles twenty-five or more miles for exercise and charity events. Today, she completed a twenty-five mile charity ride with my son, the Las Vegas Virgin/Iraqi Veteran from an old WOV post. She keeps on bugging me to inflate the tires on my Schwinn Le Tour, which I bought in 1969 from paper route profits and after school soda jerk wages. I wish I could look at that bone rattling bike with the same affection I had for it in my teens and twenties.
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October 19th, 2013 at 8:09:46 PM permalink
I enjoyed reading about the trails and looking at the pictures.

Buzzard:

Have you biked Glenwood Canyon? I know it's a good distance from Grand Junction, home of one of my favorite places in America, but it's even farther from Chicago and I've ridden it.
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October 19th, 2013 at 9:36:19 PM permalink
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Have you biked Glenwood Canyon? I know it's a good distance from Grand Junction, home of one of my favorite places in America, but it's even farther from Chicago and I've ridden it.

You mean the only place in the U.S. you can bike on the interstate?
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October 20th, 2013 at 4:39:27 AM permalink
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How long would the RED ROCK CANYON be?

Do bikes get in Free there?



The Red Rock loop is about 15 miles. Bikes are no longer free. I think they have to pay $3 or so. One could easily sneak in with a bike by going in the visitor center exit.

Quote: robbiehood

I may be able to use them to entice my wife to travel to Las Vegas again this year.



None of the ones I've posted so far would be appropriate for a tourist who likes to go 25 miles at a time. So far I've posted mostly running trails, except the Western Beltway. That one is too remote and boring to entice a tourist to come out for. However, I do plan to write up the Lone Mountain Loop as soon as I can. That I think she would like, if she can handle 35 miles.

I just added another page on the Bonanza Trail.
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October 20th, 2013 at 12:17:08 PM permalink
Just added the Lone Mountain Trail.
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October 20th, 2013 at 12:29:15 PM permalink
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Just added the Lone Mountain Trail.



You are right Wiz, trail still there in Timonium. So is the State fair and Timonium race track. But only races two weekends a year now.

Back in 50's and 60's AP was possible at the track. They would have 1 guy posted at upper window, watch the break, and holler what number broke on top. ( No cell phones, OK ) Windows were different denominations. A guy stationed at the $100 would have the teller
punch tickets till electro-mechanical machine locked up.

The Fair was right outside and I would run bet for guys that were barred from the track. Corn on the cob and occasionally tip the
operator to stop the ferris wheel so I could watch a race.

Them days are gone forever. LOL
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October 20th, 2013 at 12:49:24 PM permalink
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They would have 1 guy posted at upper window, watch the break, and holler what number broke on top.



Are you suggesting you could past-post?
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October 20th, 2013 at 1:02:45 PM permalink
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Have you biked Glenwood Canyon? I know it's a good distance from Grand Junction, home of one of my favorite places in America, but it's even farther from Chicago and I've ridden it.



I've been through the Glenwood Canyon many times, by car or train, but never by bike. It took a lot of years to build the interstate through it. They weren't allowed to blast out a roadbed so much of the interstate through the Glenwood Canyon is built on cantilever.
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October 20th, 2013 at 3:08:47 PM permalink
ABSOLUTELY : The guys who did this were called Bell Ringers. But it was past-post only for 5 or 6 seconds after the horses broke from the gate. Timonium is a 5F track, lots of 4 1/2 F races. Horse who broke on top did not always win, but it was a pretty good edge.

Actually might have gone on for a few more years. The delay from opening gate to machines locking up was there, but sometime in
mid 60's, the Racing Commission got tired of delays as tracks wanted to get every last dollar bet. Not unusual for horses to wait at gate 5 or 6 minutes before starting to load, horse sent back to paddock for jockey change etc. So law was changed and machines locked up at post time.
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October 20th, 2013 at 3:14:24 PM permalink
Can't find any documentation, but check out the circuity behind the tote board. Even Today LOL

http://scottwykoff.wbal.com/2009/07/old-school-and-cool.html
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October 24th, 2013 at 4:31:42 PM permalink
Just added a page on the Peccole Ranch trails.
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October 24th, 2013 at 6:45:15 PM permalink
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As a fitness buff,


Its always good to keep fit. I never want to be dropping a die prematurely or dealing from the top of the deck by mistake. You don't never want to wander outside a casino... its like dropping off the edge of the earth...there ain't no air conditioning. Bicycles are good things... sweet young things ride them and I've arranged to be re-incarnated as Beyonce's bicycle seat, but until then what would I want to be out in the hot sun on a bike for? You can't drink and ride a bike and that sort of proves that bike riding in Vegas ain't a good thing at all. I can definitely attest to the fact that you get zero comps for it Yeah, now The M Resort...they got a bike path and a bike rack but that bike rack is what architect's call an aesthetically acceptable security barrier.
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October 24th, 2013 at 7:43:31 PM permalink
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Just added a page on the Peccole Ranch trails.



Noooo, disc golf. I stopped going to my township park
because of the drunk disc golfers. Can anybody actually
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October 24th, 2013 at 7:47:53 PM permalink
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You don't never want to wander outside a casino... its like dropping off the edge of the earth...


What I do is, I ride a path that includes all the bus stops, that way I get reliable cigarette smoke, plus exhaust fumes if my timing is right. Sure, I'll encounter occasional patches of fresh air, but that's a minor annoyance. And by avoiding designated trails, I can achieve superior levels of danger. When's the last time you were knocked unconscious playing a Wheel of Fortune machine?
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October 24th, 2013 at 8:04:29 PM permalink
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Can anybody actually play that game well?



I've seen people play that game so well it is sickening. I'm sure you could find Youtube videos of some top players.
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November 3rd, 2013 at 7:33:05 AM permalink
Awesome feature Wizard, thanks!

I'm curious about safety, which may be more of an issue for me because I tend to run rather than bike, so I'm more vulnerable.

Security is frequently visible along some trails, such as the ones in Peccole Ranch, but others are more desolate.

I have a question about a particular situation. Here's a map of the area east of the beltway near Charleston:



The Cottonwood Canyon trail extends west-east from near the beltway to Hualapai (beyond view on the map). The circled area appears to be functioning as an unconventional residence. To the left of Town Center Drive is a small park with covered picnic tables. On either side of the roadway are partially sheltered seating areas overlooking the canyon. The seating areas are overwhelmed with cigarette butts, including large concentrations in the decorative planters:



The empty cigarette packages are properly deposited in the wastebasket:



Stashed in the bushes are betting sheets from nearby Red Rock.

Occasionally during the day along the trail I've seen individuals who look "out of place."

Are there any regulations against residing in the common areas? I was hoping maybe one of the maintenance guys could pass through occasionally and spray with a giant can of Raid.
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November 3rd, 2013 at 7:55:57 AM permalink
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Awesome feature Wizard, thanks!



You're welcome.

Quote:

I'm curious about safety, which may be more of an issue for me because I tend to run rather than bike, so I'm more vulnerable.

Security is frequently visible along some trails, such as the ones in Peccole Ranch, but others are more desolate.



Maybe I should address that better. I think any trail with lighting in a highly populated area is probably safe at night. One trail that makes me a little nervous in places is the Lone Mountain trail. There are long parts where you're fenced in on both sides for a long distance, like a tunnel, and the trail gets little traffic.

Quote:

I have a question about a particular situation. Here's a map of the area east of the beltway near Charleston:



Thanks for bring that to my attention. I'll check it out later this week.

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Occasionally during the day along the trail I've seen individuals who look "out of place."

Are there any regulations against residing in the common areas? I was hoping maybe one of the maintenance guys could pass through occasionally and spray with a giant can of Raid.



Yeah. Sometimes you get strange individual hanging out in the tunnels, especially the two on the Bonanza Trail. For a while there was always some guy playing the harmonica all day long in the west tunnel. Personally, I oppose hassling people just for looking "out of place." So far, I haven't had any trouble with them.
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November 3rd, 2013 at 8:05:18 AM permalink
I have the same question. Is it safe to walk/jog/run/bike/ebike along the trail and on the road in Vegas? I don't want to get mugged/shot.
I am thinking of a scooter when I day I move to Vegas for a year or 2 in say a couple of years.
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November 3rd, 2013 at 8:06:24 AM permalink
I also have another question. How come I cannot FLAG wizard's post.!!!!?????

Hahaaaaa, I am a trouble maker....
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November 3rd, 2013 at 8:34:38 AM permalink
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Personally, I oppose hassling people just for looking "out of place."


I can respect that. I loaned out my libertarian handbook, but I'm assuming the proper response could vary depending on whether the property is considered public or private, which in this case I don't know. I'll drop that line of inquiry since it's not really on-topic.
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November 3rd, 2013 at 4:30:18 PM permalink
Check out my new page on the Cottonwood Canyon trail. I welcome all comments.
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November 3rd, 2013 at 4:54:00 PM permalink
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Check out my new page on the Cottonwood Canyon trail. I welcome all comments.


Nice! When I run on the trail, I always feel like I'm annoying the people with dogs, but it's mixed use, I guess.

I think the cottonwood trees are known for their very aggressive root structures that seek water. You can see the roots along the surface in some of the grassy areas.

(check your spelling of Pavilion near the top of the page)
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November 3rd, 2013 at 6:19:07 PM permalink
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Nice! When I run on the trail, I always feel like I'm annoying the people with dogs, but it's mixed use, I guess.



Thanks! I feel like the people dogs are annoying me.

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I think the cottonwood trees are known for their very aggressive root structures that seek water. You can see the roots along the surface in some of the grassy areas.



They are. In Peccole Ranch they cut all of them down because their roots were causing too much damage.

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(check your spelling of Pavilion near the top of the page)



Good catch, thanks.
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November 4th, 2013 at 6:03:44 AM permalink
I just added a page on the Arbors Paseo Trail. I welcome all comments.
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November 5th, 2013 at 5:22:09 PM permalink
Another new addition today, the Willow Park trail.

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November 6th, 2013 at 5:51:31 PM permalink
Another new addition today, the Tropicana Flamingo Wash Trail.

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November 6th, 2013 at 6:29:27 PM permalink
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Another new addition today, the Tropicana Flamingo Wash Trail.

I welcome all comments.



No shade at all. Anywhere. Is this known as the suicide
trail in July-August?
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No shade at all. Anywhere. Is this known as the suicide
trail in July-August?



That would be a good name for it. No source of water along the way either. However, the weather was perfect today for the trail and I had it almost all to myself.
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November 6th, 2013 at 6:46:51 PM permalink
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No shade at all. Anywhere. Is this known as the suicide
trail in July-August?


You're definitely not in Summerlin anymore.

I think Wizard nicely conveyed the lack of amenities by commenting twice on the blue sky, lol.

Nevertheless, all the trail postings are giving me the itch to bike-ride rather than just running in the vicinity of my residence.

One proofreading question: the text mentions an eastern terminus of Russell at Edmond, but the Key Facts summary at the top specifies "Tropicana Flamingo Wash." Is that as intended? I may be confused.
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One proofreading question: the text mentions an eastern terminus of Russell at Edmond, but the Key Facts summary at the top specifies "Tropicana Flamingo Wash." Is that as intended? I may be confused.



Good catch. That was a holdover from another trail that I forgot to update.
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November 8th, 2013 at 9:33:11 AM permalink
I just posted the Saint Rose Parkway Trail.

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November 9th, 2013 at 5:41:25 AM permalink
The Eastern Beltway Trail has just been posted.

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November 16th, 2013 at 6:42:14 PM permalink
The Lower Las Vegas Wash Trail has just been posted.

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November 16th, 2013 at 7:11:02 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

The Lower Las Vegas Wash Trail has just been posted.

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I see shade and hardly any dead bodies, I vote
for this one.
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November 16th, 2013 at 9:01:00 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I see shade and hardly any dead bodies, I vote
for this one.



Damn. I also did the Upper Las Vegas Wash Trail today, but haven't published it yet. At one point there was a covered picnic table with a couple bums sleeping under it, with all sorts dirty laundry and junk scattered all over the place. I was tempted to take a picture, since they seemed to be sleeping, but thought better of it. I should have taken it, just for your benefit.
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