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Quote: lilredrooster.
just saw a post elsewhere, searched it out and verified it
she's 5'6" tall and 145 pounds
based on that - it looks like a gimmick - Shenandoah sure to make big $$$ with attendance and TV stuff
at that size, and as a female, I truly doubt that she is capable of handling the ordinary roughness of college football even at a low level
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I personally find this post to be out of touch. 5'6' 145 lbs. and a female not tough enough? Gimme a break.
How about female Marines/Army fighting along side of their male counterparts?
Female astronauts and their high level physical and mental training?
Do you remember when the prevailing thought was that a black man could never be a quarterback in the NFL?
Female fight pilots not tough?
I am not sure how big you are physically, but I am pretty confident that a highly trained and conditioned female boxer/mixed martial arts fighter could probably compromise your physical well being.
When I was teaching a few years ago at a middle school, one of my female students played offensive tackle on the team (not flag or touch football). She was plenty tough and took it to her opponents big time.
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Quote: DRichMy guess is this girl is just a publicity stunt. Good for her if she can get some attention and promo money. I am a small guy but she is four inches shorter than me and 20 pounds lighter. I would get killed in high school football so I can't imagine she is more than a publicity stunt. I hope she is successful and proves many of us wrong.
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My opinion: pretty bad guess. "publicity stunt"? For what or for who?? Shenendoah College? D-3 football? Oh, i know: NIKE.
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Quote: tuttigymQuote: DRichMy guess is this girl is just a publicity stunt. Good for her if she can get some attention and promo money. I am a small guy but she is four inches shorter than me and 20 pounds lighter. I would get killed in high school football so I can't imagine she is more than a publicity stunt. I hope she is successful and proves many of us wrong.
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My opinion: pretty bad guess. "publicity stunt"? For what or for who?? Shenendoah College? D-3 football? Oh, i know: NIKE.
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I would say for Shenendoah. I have never heard of them before and I just referenced them. Always good to get your name out for recruiting. "If a girl can play there, I can play there". new recruiting slogan.
Quote: DRichMy guess is this girl is just a publicity stunt. Good for her if she can get some attention and promo money. I am a small guy but she is four inches shorter than me and 20 pounds lighter. I would get killed in high school football so I can't imagine she is more than a publicity stunt.
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I agree
Haley Van Hooris was Honorable Mention All State in Virginia at ChristChurch h.s.
according to Wikipedia that school has just 225 students which makes it kind of amazing that they fielded a football team
Alexandria h.s. in Va. has 4,100 students - and there are many other similarly very large high schools in Va
the football program and competition at ChristChurch is surely very, very weak compared to the much larger schools
I would be willing to bet she was given that Honorable Mention All State honor not because she deserved it but for other very obvious reasons
imo at 5'6" and 145 imagine her making a pick and then taking a very hard hit from a 260 pound guy - very, very unlikely she could withstand that
good for Shenandoah and the $$$ it will bring to the school - that's it
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I think you misunderstood my question, it's possibly unknown by most, but I'll ask again.Quote: lilredroosterQuote: AxelWolfWhat team does she play for?____
Haley Van Voorhis, a safety at Division-III Shenandoah University,
Division 3 - not anywhere near as tough or as big and strong as Division 1 - but still - getting hit by a man______?_________wow
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What 'team' does she play for?
Quote: billryanWest was a pretty good shooter and would do well offensively but I'm not sure he'd defend so well. The game was a lot more physical back then. What was once routine elbows are now flagrant fouls. I don't think we can really compare players from the different eras. It is such a different game.
I wonder how today's players would have done in the NBA of the Sixties.
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Too dumb too multi-quote so I'll just respond to this instead of Red's comment as well.
Agree can't compare eras, and have to assume they'd all be much better shooters because they'd be spending much more time honing it, also adjusting for medical/training advances, can really only compare within eras.
In regards to Jerry West, looking at numbers and how dominant he was during his peak in the playoffs and that title run, I think he's actually probably underrated historically. He's the damn logo, and generally ranked top 15 when you see historical rankings, so gets his respect.
I didn't see him play, but Wilt was post prime and Elgin Baylor was not the same player post injury in those years. Think it's likely many that didn't watch them play at the time give some of the credit to Wilt and Elgin that West deserves when thinking of late 60's, early 70's Lakers.
a record that will never be broken:
Wilt 100 points in one game
It is widely considered one of the greatest records in the sport's history.
wow - he made 28 of 32 free throws that game - 87.5% - even though he he only made 51.1% lifetime
That season, Chamberlain averaged a single-season record 50.4 points per game,
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Quote: lilredrooster.
a record that will never be broken:
Wilt 100 points in one game
It is widely considered one of the greatest records in the sport's history.
wow - he made 28 of 32 free throws that game - 87.5% - even though he he only made 51.1% lifetime
That season, Chamberlain averaged a single-season record 50.4 points per game,
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In that small sample, Wilt was scoring more than sixty per game, except against Bill Russell and his Celtics.
the M & M boys - Mickey Mantle and Roger Maris challenged each other to break Babe Ruth's 60 homers in a season record in '61
maybe more than half the nation closely followed the day by day results as they got near to the record
the Mick was the golden boy - much loved and favored by the fans
but it was Roger who did it, hammering 61, the Mick ended up with 54
I want to give Maris his due - he did something fabulous under tons of pressure
the pre steroid era - no pumped up cheaters were out there then
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In many ways, 1961 was a truly magical season, but I think this needs to be pointed out.
Quote: billryanSomething that is rarely mentioned about 1961 is it was the year the American League expanded from eight teams to ten. Fifty players and about twenty pitchers who would not have been in the league were added, so the quality of play had to have suffered. Mantle, Maris, and the rest of the league faced a lot of pitching that wasn't MLB-ready that season.
you have a point - that was certainly Maris's best year by far
but Mantle had a better year in '56
only 2 fewer homers, more RBIs, a much higher BA, a higher OBP and SLG and OPS
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1961 and 1987 are two seasons when batters had huge years. 1968 was the year of the pitcher, but then baseball expanded and brought in forty pitchers for the four new teams.
From Wikipedia: "Cash, whose personality was marked by candor and humor, confessed in later years that he used corked bats, but throughout his career, not just the magical 1961 season."
Quote: gordonm888Didn't Norm Cash use a corked bat in 1961? reportedly, that was responsible for his anomalously high batting stats, not the pitching staffs of the Angels and Senators.
From Wikipedia: "Cash, whose personality was marked by candor and humor, confessed in later years that he used corked bats, but throughout his career, not just the magical 1961 season."
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It wasn't just the staff of those two teams; Every team had two or three pitchers that would have been in the minors but for expansion.
With a ten-man staff, the league had eighty pitching slots in 1960. There were one hundred in 1961, but each of the existing teams lost about a quarter of their forty-man rosters, so the product was relatively diluted. The same thing happened in 1962 in the National League.
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the M & M boys - Mickey Mantle and Roger Maris challenged each other to break Babe Ruth's 60 homers in a season record in '61
maybe more than half the nation closely followed the day by day results as they got near to the record
the Mick was the golden boy - much loved and favored by the fans
but it was Roger who did it, hammering 61, the Mick ended up with 54
I want to give Maris his due - he did something fabulous under tons of pressure
the pre steroid era - no pumped up cheaters were out there then
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Not saying Maris or Mantle were juicing, but anabolic steroids were invented in the 30s and misuse in athletic competition was documented as far back as the 1950s. Indeed, the Nazis experimented with anabolic steroids on POWs, their own soldiers and even Adolf Shicklegruber, Even if they weren't on the gas, ballplayers widely used amphetamines, tranquilizers and cocaine by the time these two were trying to set records.
I was a huge Oscar fan - what a joy he was to watch - absolutely classic - no razzle dazzle at all
he was the first to average a triple double for a whole season - and is 2nd in most TRD for a season with 41
he shot that picture perfect jumper from way up high over his head
I never saw even one player ever block it
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Quote: lilredrooster.
I was a huge Oscar fan - what a joy he was to watch - absolutely classic - no razzle dazzle at all
he was the first to average a triple double for a whole season - and is 2nd in most TRD for a season with 41
he shot that picture perfect jumper from way up high over his head
I never saw even one player ever block it
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Phil Jackson said if he had his pick of anyone to start a team with, he'd pick Oscar over Russell, Wilt, MJ, Bird, Magic or Kareem or anyone else.
a brief post re some of Ohtani's accomplishments this year:
from the article:
"This year was his best yet, perhaps the most remarkable season by an individual in baseball history. The first five times he pitched for the Angels, he allowed a total of eight hits, the fewest by a starter to open a season in modern history. After that, he seemed to do something every week that hadn’t been seen in years, or ever. Some feats were the obscure sort baseball likes to keep track of, like becoming the first player since 1964 to steal a base and homer in a game that he started on the mound; or his accumulation of especially long home runs. Others were more historic. He was only the second player ever to lead his league in both homers and triples at the All-Star Break, for example. On July 27, he reached an apotheosis of sorts by throwing a one-hit shutout against the Detroit Tigers in the first game of a doubleheader, then hitting two home runs in the second game, another combination without precedent. “In our lifetime, we’ve never seen anything like it,” says Manny Machado, the San Diego Padres’ All-Star third baseman. “I didn’t believe it when he first came over here, that it would be possible. But he’s proven me and a lot of other people wrong.”'
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the NFL is embarrassing itself imo with all of this attention to Taylor Swift
I get it - they want to attract new and young fans
but still - it's a terrible distraction - so many have no interest in her or her music
who cares___________?
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Quote: lilredrooster.
the NFL is embarrassing itself imo with all of this attention to Taylor Swift
I get it - they want to attract new and young fans
but still - it's a terrible distraction - so many have no interest in her or her music
who cares___________?
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I does not bother me one iota. I think it may even add 1% to my enjoyment of the telecasts. I could not name a single song of hers. I know of no other person who would agree with the term ‘terrible distraction’ when they show a hot blond cheering for a few seconds after a Kelce TD.
Travis Kelce is a great player - the link, nfl.com lists him as currently the 5th best player in the league
they list no. 4 as Nick Bosa, no. 3 as Jalen Hurts and no. 2 as Justin Jefferson
I don't think it's right or fair that Kelce gets so much more attention than players more impactful than him because of who he's dating
it's ridiculous to me
I don't care if it's great for the Chiefs or Kelce or the Swifties or for Swift herself__________- I don't give a flying **** about that
and I don't think she's super hot like Soopoo does - her looks are a dime a dozen - tens of thousands of females in the U.S. look as good or better than her
and as for her music - I've linked for everybody an anti-Swift web page from reddit - enjoy
https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/upl28l/taylor_swift_sucks/?rdt=36336
https://www.nfl.com/news/top-100-players-of-2023-nos-10-1-patrick-mahomes-justin-jefferson
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Quote: lilredrooster.
Travis Kelce is a great player - the link, nfl.com lists him as currently the 5th best player in the league
they list no. 4 as Nick Bosa, no. 3 as Jalen Hurts and no. 2 as Justin Jefferson
I don't think it's right or fair that Kelce gets so much more attention than players more impactful than him because of who he's dating
it's ridiculous to me
I don't care if it's great for the Chiefs or Kelce or the Swifties or for Swift herself__________- I don't give a flying **** about that
and I don't think she's super hot like Soopoo does - her looks are a dime a dozen - tens of thousands of females in the U.S. look as good or better than her
and as for her music - I've linked for everybody an anti-Swift web page from reddit - enjoy
https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/upl28l/taylor_swift_sucks/?rdt=36336
https://www.nfl.com/news/top-100-players-of-2023-nos-10-1-patrick-mahomes-justin-jefferson
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We get it. You don’t like her. But the NFL isn’t making a mistake to highlight her. It’s doing what the NFL does, following the money . . .
Quote: unJonQuote: lilredrooster.
Travis Kelce is a great player - the link, nfl.com lists him as currently the 5th best player in the league
they list no. 4 as Nick Bosa, no. 3 as Jalen Hurts and no. 2 as Justin Jefferson
I don't think it's right or fair that Kelce gets so much more attention than players more impactful than him because of who he's dating
it's ridiculous to me
I don't care if it's great for the Chiefs or Kelce or the Swifties or for Swift herself__________- I don't give a flying **** about that
and I don't think she's super hot like Soopoo does - her looks are a dime a dozen - tens of thousands of females in the U.S. look as good or better than her
and as for her music - I've linked for everybody an anti-Swift web page from reddit - enjoy
https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/upl28l/taylor_swift_sucks/?rdt=36336
https://www.nfl.com/news/top-100-players-of-2023-nos-10-1-patrick-mahomes-justin-jefferson
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We get it. You don’t like her. But the NFL isn’t making a mistake to highlight her. It’s doing what the NFL does, following the money . . .
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My view is I don't dislike HER, but I do think that as someone who couldn't care less about her the amount of attention and camera views DURING THE GAME that I have no option but to watch other than turning off the games, is rather obnoxious and agitating. Can't even mute it. I don't dislike her....the coverage annoys the shit out of me. I don't dislike Drake or Spike Lee either but their coverage is annoying as hell when I actually did want to watch a basketball game.
Her looks, meh, above average but who cares, it's an incredible phenomenon what insane wealth before 30 does to the attractiveness/physical desirability of someone who you wouldn't otherwise notice on the street though.
It is ESPN (DIsney) and the TV networks that are making decisions to show Taylor Swift in the box at the game. It has literally increased the TV ratings of that game.
I watch a lot of professional tennis, and at the big matches the TV cameras are constantly showing us the NBA stars, Hollywood/Broadway stars, British royalty and Michelle Obama when they are in the audience. I think it's fun, it shows that the sport is popular and that this particular sporting event is not some god-forsaken backwater in human society. I can't understand why video showing Taylor Swift is more objectionable than the zillions of commercials encouraging me to bundle home and auto.
Quote: billryanThe Jets had a receiver that was married to a country music star. It wasn't a big deal..
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That receiver was Golden Gophers legend Eric Decker, sir.
Including their week one debacle, they are still +21 per game.
I’d take them over every team right now other than the 49ers.
Quote: SOOPOOThe Bills have won the last 3 games by 28 or more points. I doubt that is a frequent occurrence.
Including their week one debacle, they are still +21 per game.
I’d take them over every team right now other than the 49ers.
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They are playing great. They’ve got a tough three game stretch starting end of Nov: @Eagles, bye, @Chiefs, Dallas.
Quote: GenoDRPhAs much as it pains me to say this, we now have an almost definitive answer to the question of who was more important to the Patriots dynasty, Brady or Belichick...
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I was thinking the same exact thing yesterday. Sad.
great post Mac - it's almost like the dude completely re-invented the game
Pistol's Dad - Press Maravich - was his Coach in college where he averaged 44 per game - his fg % at .438 was kinna soft
I think he took about 36 shots per game - it must have been quite strange for other players on the team even as great as he was
but overall, they must have loved the experience of getting to play on the same team with him
YT delivers the goods - just about every time - so great to have it available
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Think...Jessica Simpson
strong feelings from many others about the Taylor Swift thing
from the article:
"After the bad reaction in social networks, the NFL deleted the reference to Taylor Swift from Instagram, in addition to removing her cover photo on the league's X (Formerly Twitter) account and another reference in the bio section."
https://www.marca.com/en/nfl/2023/10/03/651bdd89ca4741cf5b8b4599.html
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the Rays were swept out of the playoffs and have other big problems re their proposed new stadium and attendance
you don't often hear about MLB teams who had a winning record over .600 for the regular season as the Rays did having problems like this - pretty interesting - to me, anyway
from the article:
"Worse than that, their quixotic effort to turn St. Petersburg into a baseball town was exposed on national television as cameras panned over the half-empty stadium.
When the Rays announced an attendance of 19,704 for Game 1, the conclusion was startling: IT WAS THE LOWEST ATTENDANCE FOR A PLAYOFF GAME (excluding the 2020 COVID season) SINCE GAME 7 OF THE 1919 WORLD SERIES "
https://theathletic.com/4931582/2023/10/04/rays-wild-card-empty-seats/
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If the Yankees played forty miles from NYC, they'd have trouble filling their place too.
Between the distance and the horrible ballpark, I don't blame fans.
Spot on about location and dismal ballpark, but isn't their new stadium going up in pretty much the same place? I have serious doubts that the attendance will improve, even with a shiny new ballpark. Unless the Yankees or Red Sox are in town, I would continue to expect about 5,000 fans a night.Quote: billryanThe location of the stadium has a lot to do with it. The new stadium will be better located, with public transportation nearby.
If the Yankees played forty miles from NYC, they'd have trouble filling their place too.
Between the distance and the horrible ballpark, I don't blame fans.
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Maybe if they moved it to downtown Tampa, they would have a chance, but I doubt even that would make much of a difference.
Quote: JoemanSpot on about location and dismal ballpark, but isn't their new stadium going up in pretty much the same place? I have serious doubts that the attendance will improve, even with a shiny new ballpark. Unless the Yankees or Red Sox are in town, I would continue to expect about 5,000 fans a night.Quote: billryanThe location of the stadium has a lot to do with it. The new stadium will be better located, with public transportation nearby.
If the Yankees played forty miles from NYC, they'd have trouble filling their place too.
Between the distance and the horrible ballpark, I don't blame fans.
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Maybe if they moved it to downtown Tampa, they would have a chance, but I doubt even that would make much of a difference.
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I thought the new stadium was being built in Tampa, but have not followed it closely.
ferocious back in the day HOF Chicago Bears Linebacker Dick Butkus has passed - R.I.P.
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the Rays were swept out of the playoffs and have other big problems re their proposed new stadium and attendance
you don't often hear about MLB teams who had a winning record over .600 for the regular season as the Rays did having problems like this - pretty interesting - to me, anyway
Have you been to their stadium? Tropicana field makes the Oakland A's stadium look nice.
I loved watching the NBA back in the day - and now trying to compare players then to players now
Elgin Baylor was a truly great power forward - one year he averaged 38 points and 19 rebounds per game
but I have to admit in terms of raw ability he was not the equal of Lebron - not really even close
the players of today are almost like Supermen - stronger, bigger, faster, jump higher
I'm trying to imagine what the skill level will be like in 20 years time - it will be mind boggling
the only 2 back in the day players that I believe could match up successfully with the players of today were Wilt and Kareem
some of those out there today and in prior years were in the same league as those two
but I don't believe anybody out there at any time could simply use them up -
they were just too, too great
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Only 1 all star appearance, would have loved to have seen him enter the league 20 years later and play in todays NBA. With the pace the game is played now and the spacing of rarely being more than one player on the floor who isn't a 3 point threat, it would be nearly impossible to keep him from getting into the lane. On the other hand, he'd probably be targeted ruthlessly on defense as you rarely see anyone under 6'3 as a NBA starter anymore.
Wow_____!!!!_________great post______!!!
usually if a player beats another player off the dribble it's by a half step or at most a full step
this dude beats the defenders by several feet -
spectacular - you don't see this kinna thing very often - very rarely - the only one I can think of anything like him was Tiny Archibald -
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Quote: mcallister3200Happy Mixtape Monday, continuing the trend of creative ballhandlers ahead of their time featuring Nick "the quick" Van Exel.
Only 1 all star appearance, would have loved to have seen him enter the league 20 years later and play in todays NBA. With the pace the game is played now and the spacing of rarely being more than one player on the floor who isn't a 3 point threat, it would be nearly impossible to keep him from getting into the lane. On the other hand, he'd probably be targeted ruthlessly on defense as you rarely see anyone under 6'3 as a NBA starter anymore.
I enjoyed watching him play in the Bob Huggins system at Cincinnati.
Mac posted Nick "The Quick" so I thought I'd post about a somewhat similar player - Nate "Tiny" Archibald - aka "Nate the Skate"
listed at 6'1" many claimed he was actually under 6'0" - 5'10 or 5'11"
in '72/'73 he became the only player in NBA history to lead the league in scoring - 34 - and assists - 11.4
he got a Championship in '81 with the Celts and Larry Bird
the little dude would go up in the face of anybody - no matter how big or tall or strong they were
many interesting comments about him in the vid from other NBA greats
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