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rxwine
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April 10th, 2020 at 11:57:15 AM permalink
We didn't overreact because we failed to manage this early on. We underreacted.
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April 10th, 2020 at 12:27:57 PM permalink
"17,000 people dead from Covid-19 in one month in the USA.

Let's not over-react.

Move on, move on, nothing to see here!"
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April 10th, 2020 at 12:46:10 PM permalink
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"17,000 people dead from Covid-19 in one month in the USA.

Let's not over-react.

Move on, move on, nothing to see here!"



That's about what we've had with the seasonal flu in one month. The flu season 2020 is as active as ever. ... and as many as 63,000 deaths from flu.
https://www.rochesterregional.org/news/2020/01/flu-season-2020

By the way, that's about how many people we are predicting will die from the Chinese Coronavirus.
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April 10th, 2020 at 12:47:57 PM permalink
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That's about what we've had with the seasonal flu in one month. The flu season 2020 is as active as ever. ... and as many as 63,000 deaths from flu.

https://www.rochesterregional.org/news/2020/01/flu-season-2020



Thank God we overreacted then.

Without social distance we would have had ten times the deaths from flu
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April 10th, 2020 at 12:49:39 PM permalink
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Thank God we overreacted then.

Without social distance we would have had ten times the deaths from flu



Would we? Maybe not. I suspect the numbers might be slightly higher.
It's going to be very interesting to see the stats coming out of Sweden and Brazil over the next month.
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April 10th, 2020 at 1:01:34 PM permalink
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We didn't overreact because we failed to manage this early on. We underreacted.



How, exactly?

Other than limiting China Travel sooner, what exactly would you have suggested we do?

We overreacted to bad models.
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April 10th, 2020 at 1:14:30 PM permalink
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How, exactly?

Other than limiting China Travel sooner, what exactly would you have suggested we do?

We overreacted to bad models.



We would have had test kits ready early. The stockpile should have been evaluated as well and the federal government should have had the states report their needs, and manufacturing should have been initiated earlier based on a shortfall. It's up to the federal government to lead in a national emergency, even if the states have their own responsibilities.
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April 10th, 2020 at 1:21:15 PM permalink
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I suspect Hydroxychloroquine +Zinc is making a significant dent in number of deaths here in the US.

On Tuesday, the IHME estimated about 82,000 people will die from Chinese virus by August. On Wednesday, that estimate was lowered to 60,415.



I suspect you're confusing wishful thinking with science. It could be a valid therapy, it could change nothing, its efficacy could depend on multiple unidentified factors in each patient.

I also don't like you interjecting the politically aimed dog whistle of "Chinese" virus into this conversation. Warning to keep to facts and not slurs.



Beachbumbas,

Slurs???

If we were to discuss Lyme disease, is that politically incorrect, since that's Old Lyme Connecticut?
How about the Norovirus? Norwalk Ohio

MERS Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS)
Also known as “camel flu,” MERS was first reported in Saudi Arabia in 2012 and all cases are linked to those who traveled to the Middle Eastern peninsula.

Zika Fever?
First discovered in 1947 and named after the Zika Forest in Uganda.

Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever?
Named after the mountain range spreading across western North America first recognized first in 1896 in Idaho.

Ebola? It's a virus that causes a hemorrhagic fever. It's named after a river in the Democratic Republic of Congo

How about the West Nile?
The Spanish Flu?
Legionnaire’s Disease?
German Measles?


https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/13/17-diseases-named-after-places-or-people/

I'm not introducing politics or political correctness into the conversation. However you are and are clearly being influenced by the communist party of China if you think otherwise. There's a very long long history of naming disease based on where they originate. If you don't it like then perhaps you need to start emailing scientists and book publishers and inform them that you're feeling offended and that they need to change the names right away!

Pretentiousness and smug is a disease as well. Try not to get infected. ;)



Slurs.

Widely reported as such, deliberate and perjorative. Discussed at length and argued about vociferously by the briefing team. Continued despite diplomatic protests.

Slurs.

Speaking of perjoratives, you can quit trolling me any time. Soon would be good.
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April 10th, 2020 at 1:25:58 PM permalink
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I'm not introducing politics or political correctness into the conversation.



Bullshit. The official name is not Chinese Virus. Just like H1N1 is not the Mexican flu.



The location where the virus originated and it's use in describing the disease should not be offensive to anyone. Claiming otherwise is just communism manipulating gullible people via social influencing. Gullible people often want to be viewed as being trendy and "in the know". Correcting other people that aren't perceived as being as trendy is just being pretentious and smug. Don't fall for it. Ignore twitter, and ignore the social media trends. They aren't real.


The virus originated in Wuhan China.



Yeah. Couldn't stand it, huh. 7 days.

Political post, plus personal insult.
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April 10th, 2020 at 1:31:43 PM permalink
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I'm not introducing politics or political correctness into the conversation.



Bullshit. The official name is not Chinese Virus. Just like H1N1 is not the Mexican flu.



The location where the virus originated and it's use in describing the disease should not be offensive to anyone. Claiming otherwise is just communism manipulating gullible people via social influencing. Gullible people often want to be viewed as being trendy and "in the know". Correcting other people that aren't perceived as being as trendy is just being pretentious and smug. Don't fall for it. Ignore twitter, and ignore the social media trends. They aren't real.


The virus originated in Wuhan China.



Yeah. Couldn't stand it, huh. 7 days.

Political post, plus personal insult.



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