2020 Election
Quote: BozSad, just sad. In so many ways.
What's sad is this human still has support from people like you. Heck, today, he claimed that he helped 9/11 first responders and made a joke about the stage falling down. After the twin towers collapsed, he made a quip about how his building was now the tallest in Manhattan.
There's no sugar coating it. Anybody STILL supporting this human (he's no man) ought to be ashamed of themselves.
Quote: AZDuffmanReally? Obama went on television and said we tortured people. Along with other apologies.
The fact that they say it is "racist" shows Trump is 100% in the right.
Bernie said Baltimore is a 3rd world
country and all we heard is crickets.
Quote: SteverinosWhat's sad is this human still has support from people like you. Heck, today, he claimed that he helped 9/11 first responders and made a joke about the stage falling down. After the twin towers collapsed, he made a quip about how his building was now the tallest in Manhattan.
There's no sugar coating it. Anybody STILL supporting this human (he's no man) ought to be ashamed of themselves.
Still supporting him, donating hard earned money toward his re-election and proud of it.
No shame here at all.
And truly you have nothing other than liberal talking points to go against him.
Face it, you would be against ANY GOP candidate.
Only thing is I still don’t understand is why.
Have to add I get why you don’t call him a man, that’s an insult in your world. In the liberal world of 2019, we shouldn’t use such words as “Man” or “Woman”, “Female” or “Male”. Congratulations on the nonsense your views created.
I’m sure you’re “proud”.
Quote: EvenBobBernie said Baltimore is a 3rd world
country and all we heard is crickets.
Yesterday’s news, the old angry racist commie is polling at 11%. Even the unemployed millennials gave up on him as Crazy.
Quote: SOOPOOIf so another freaking giant giveaway..... then blame Trump for exploding deficit of course.....
“They see that the elites who ruined their lives, hate Trump. Corporate America hates Trump. Wall Street hates Trump. The career politicians hate Trump. The media hates Trump.”
“Trump’s election is going to be the biggest ‘F@#$ You’ ever recorded in human history. And it will feel Good.” - Michael Moore experiencing a brief episode of honesty in 2016
The legislation offers $49 billion in forgivable loans payable over 29 years to union plans in the most trouble.
The cost of doing nothing could be catastrophic.
"Several of these plans are large enough to take down the entire Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation, threatening the security of another 10 million hard-working Americans." -Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-Ohio)
Not a giveaway, if it is paid back.
There is also a mine workers union bailout waiting for Senate approval.
This is why the big Unions support the Democrats.
A drop in the bucket, considering the size of the bank bailout after the avoidable ‘great recession’ was more than $29 trillion.
All of that money was paid back.
Pension plans are underfunded for various reasons that include declining membership and low bond yields.
General Motors, for example, has ten retirees for every active worker. It is a pension plan that makes cars.
Perhaps all of this could have been avoided, had Congress not approved NAFTA and the China Trade Act of 2000, that shipped 3.5 million jobs, and 60,0000 factories out of the country and gutted middle class jobs from the U.S. economy.
They shipped the supply chain overseas and brought 20 million legal and illegal consumers here to buy the stuff. Brilliant.
Perfectly timed for the 2020 elections. The Dems now have two union pension bailout bills that could potentially affect the welfare of ten million people, pending approval by Republican controlled Senate.
Quote: BozAnd truly you have nothing other than liberal talking points to go against him.
If by liberal talking points, you mean, his own f**king words, then yeah.
He said he would fix Baltimore "fast". He's been the President for 2.5 years, so....what the f**k is up? 2.5 years is fast in your world?
What's the difference? In 2015, he was blaming "our great African-American President". In 2019, he's blaming the African-American Congressman, BUT NOT HIMSELF.
Either he's a racist or a f**king coward and won't take responsiblity for the things he's said or done. Pick one.
Quote: SteverinosIf by liberal talking points, you mean, his own f**king words, then yeah.
He said he would fix Baltimore "fast". He's been the President for 2.5 years, so....what the f**k is up? 2.5 years is fast in your world?
What's the difference? In 2015, he was blaming "our great African-American President". In 2019, he's blaming the African-American Congressman, BUT NOT HIMSELF.
Either he's a racist or a f**king coward and won't take responsiblity for the things he's said or done. Pick one.
Angry much? Go watch the sunset tonight. Oh wait.
Quote: SteverinosWhat's sad is this human still has support from people like you. Heck, today, he claimed that he helped 9/11 first responders and made a joke about the stage falling down. After the twin towers collapsed, he made a quip about how his building was now the tallest in Manhattan.
There's no sugar coating it. Anybody STILL supporting this human (he's no man) ought to be ashamed of themselves.
No, what is sad is how you and other libs get all bent out of shape when someone dare says something negative about a Black. As if Blacks need special protection from criticism. Meanwhile, Blacks in Baltimore live in conditions so bad there was a TV series of the crime and bad conditions there.
You should be careful saying who should be ashamed of themselves.
Quote: SteverinosIf by liberal talking points, you mean, his own f**king words, then yeah.
He said he would fix Baltimore "fast". He's been the President for 2.5 years, so....what the f**k is up? 2.5 years is fast in your world?
What's the difference? In 2015, he was blaming "our great African-American President". In 2019, he's blaming the African-American Congressman, BUT NOT HIMSELF.
Either he's a racist or a f**king coward and won't take responsiblity for the things he's said or done. Pick one.
Hmmm, seems to me there is a rule about not just just using the f-bomb but alluding to it?
Quote: AZDuffmanHmmm, seems to me there is a rule about not just just using the f-bomb but alluding to it?
It’s just StevO showing how angry StevO is. Still would love to know why.
Actually not really, his politics explain most of it. Bad choices usually explain the rest of it.
Quote: Boz
It’s just StevO showing how angry StevO is. Still would love to know why.
Actually not really, his politics explain most of it. Bad choices usually explain the rest of it.
Or goes back to the cuss thread where it was mentioned the more you cuss the less you have to say?
I could not imagine spending life that angry.
We'll see.
Quote: rxwineI don't see Trump winning anyone over with his current behavior, except the same base. He needs more than that.
We'll see.
Absolutely correct, time will tell.
And as we know only a small percentage of Americans will be the determining factor.
Only a few states matter and I like Trumps chances in them, but 15 months is a long time.
Quote: rxwineI don't see Trump winning anyone over with his current behavior, except the same base. He needs more than that.
We'll see.
We heard you and the other libs the first 500 times you have said this.
Quote:Michigan General Election, Head To Head Matchup:
Biden 49
Trump 36
Sanders 48
Trump 37
Warren 44
Trump 38
Harris 41
Trump 38
Buttigieg 40
Trump 37
Booker 39
Trump 37
Even Pocahontas is beating him here by 6!
He could win re-election in 2020 (he SHOULD, with the incumbency advantage and his inherited Obama economy), but he will have to do it without Michigan.
Quote: AZDuffmanWe heard you and the other libs the first 500 times you have said this.
So, halfway there then.
Quote: ams288I believe we were talking about how much Michigan hates Trump recently, weren’t we?
Even Pocahontas is beating him here by 6!
He could win re-election in 2020 (he SHOULD, with the incumbency advantage and his inherited Obama economy), but he will have to do it without Michigan.
https://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-michigan-president-trump-vs-clinton
Clinton up 6 over Trump overall.
Michigan State poll had her up 20 points, lol.
Spoiler alert, polls didn’t tell the true story.
Quote: rxwineHas Jared Kushner gone into hiding yet? He has 200 rental units in Baltimore cited for rats, mice and mold.
Unfortunately unlike animals, the so called “poor” never leave horrible conditions for better conditions.
Then again, maybe the fear of losing benefits along with having to work keeps them in rat infested tenement slums.
Just another reason to end Section 8 housing, put people like Jared out of business and make people responsible.
Win/win. We all agree on that, right?
Paid back hell, it was a debt Jubilee . The TBTF banks were given trillions at zero percent interest, and the banks placed that money in reserves at up to 4%.Quote: Tanko....This is why the big Unions support the Democrats.
A drop in the bucket, considering the size of the bank bailout after the avoidable ‘great recession’ was more than $29 trillion.
All of that money was paid back.
Quote:Pension plans are underfunded for various reasons that include declining membership and low bond yields....
The "low bond yields" were a feature, not a glitch. Zirp and QE for the banks, and you want to renege on pensions for blue collar? I don't think they actually every planned on making good on pension promises. Look at SS, or the National debt, it's mathematically impossible to pay what was promised.
It's been a long time since TBTF banks,,,, were even banks. They are hedge funds. Global trading houses that have been caught time after time rigging the money markets. At least twice for rigging the LIBOR .
Rigging LIBOR cheats every person with an adjustable rate mortgage, and every pension that invested in real estate, from the first payment till the last. And pensions invested in that. See that pie chart given to those with any retirement plan? That RE part is CDO's and contracts, not high rent return professional offices.
Why shouldn't perspective pensioners want the gov to make good, after allowing their banking buddy's to defraud them? I'm getting screwed every which way I turn.
They have swindled the global financial market out of so much money, that billion dollar fines are just a matter of doing business.
HSBC has paid billions of dollars for money laundering for the drug cartels without having to admit guilt. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hsbc-probe/hsbc-to-pay-1-9-billion-u-s-fine-in-money-laundering-case-idUSBRE8BA05M20121211
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-banks-forex-settlementa-usa/five-global-banks-to-pay-5-7-billion-in-fines-over-rate-rigging-idUSKBN0O51PY20150520
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-stanchart-sanctions-settlement-fed/standard-chartered-to-pay-1-1-billion-for-sanctions-violations-idUSKCN1RL1TV
These criminal global banking institutions should have been shuttered, not rewarded. Since WJC signed away Glass Stegall, these banks are not only not banks, the taxpayer is covering their bad bets through FDIC. Privatized profits and socialized losses.
And the unions that everyone seems to hate so much, that they want their pensions to fail, bought stock and bonds from these global financial manipulators and were cheated coming and going. How the heck is the working person supposed to look out for themselves when the mega tbtf banks are allowed to swindle them on every trade? Congress themselves are allowed to trade on insider knowledge by buying stock, using tips they got from their lobbyists.
A pension agreement with a worker is a contract, like any other contract. Workers [union or not] worked their entire lives expecting those promises to be kept. I know congress expects their pension checks to cash.
Quote: BozUnfortunately unlike animals, the so called “poor” never leave horrible conditions for better conditions.
Better conditions usually cost more
So if you are poor how are you going to afford the change?
I have no problem with you claiming poor live in worse conditions than middle class and rich. I totally agree.
But why would you believe that just because people dont find other places to live that it is a choice? Many times people just cant afford to.
Poor people from the northeast usually dont go on vacations to the bahamas and Disneyworld? You believe they choose to avoid that as well?
Why not choose better and then go make it happen?
Quote: AxelWolfThere are lots of stories of people with severe disabilities doing some amazing things. Like a guy with no legs doing back flips (exaggeration)
Why not choose better and then go make it happen?
There are people who escaped nazi Germany
There are many who were killed.
I suppose you blame the ones unable to escape with their own fate?
An absurd comparison, but I wouldn't expect anything different from you.Quote: darkozThere are people who escaped nazi Germany
There are many who were killed.
I suppose you blame the ones unable to escape with their own fate?
If you haven't noticed, we are a free country, the land of opportunity and all that good stuff. Why else would all those illegals be risking death just to come here? Yet, you somehow compare being in a crappie area with nazi Germany? Perhaps you can educate them on how to use Grey Hound? It make sense that you are a little mixed up since you also believe riding the bus is like ridding in a limo. Let me guess, .99 ribeyes are the best you ever had?
And Michael Obama is hot (D*ck and all)?
Quote: darkozBetter conditions usually cost more
So if you are poor how are you going to afford the change?
I have no problem with you claiming poor live in worse conditions than middle class and rich. I totally agree.
But why would you believe that just because people dont find other places to live that it is a choice? Many times people just cant afford to.
Poor people from the northeast usually dont go on vacations to the bahamas and Disneyworld? You believe they choose to avoid that as well?
More than not being able to "afford it" is accepting it. People think this kind of life is normal and accept it. Some are smart and get out young. The military is one of the best ways, although lefties have complained about joining the military to escape a bad situation. We keep hearing about these jobs "Americans won't take." Resort areas need people, and many have housing for the workers. That is a way to roll up a stake and get out. Or just work and try to get out.
Some will do this. But most will settle into the life. Guys will bounce from low end job to low end job. Gals will let themselves get pregnant, so then they need someone to watch the kid because the dad is an afterthought. Eventually this life gets to be normal and a next generation falls into it. They collect their EIC every year, "loaning" kids as needed to maximize it. Then the money spins thru the poverty-industrial complex.
And that is the thing. There is big money in the ghetto. It ends up with various poverty pimps while the rest vote Democrat so dem wascaly wepublicans don't come in dare. You might be in poverty, son, but at least people who "look like you" are in charge, isn't that the most important thing?
Quote: AxelWolfAn absurd comparison, but I wouldn't expect anything different from you.
If you haven't noticed, we are a free country, the land of opportunity and all that good stuff. Why else would all those illegals be risking death just to come here? Yet, you somehow compare being in a crappie area with nazi Germany? Perhaps you can educate them on how to use Grey Hound? It make sense that you are a little mixed up since you also believe riding the bus is like ridding in a limo. Let me guess, .99 ribeyes are the best you ever had?
And Michael Obama is hot (D*ck and all)?
America is NOT a free country
Its actually a very expensive country
Unleas you have lots of power and money. Then you are free to commit crimes and get away with them
Quote: darkozAmerica is NOT a free country
Its actually a very expensive country
Unleas you have lots of power and money. Then you are free to commit crimes and get away with them
Correct I guess. You can claim a fake hate crime, waste the time of the police, go on talk shows stoking racial hatred, and be let off the hook.
Quote: darkozBetter conditions usually cost more
So if you are poor how are you going to afford the change?
I have no problem with you claiming poor live in worse conditions than middle class and rich. I totally agree.
But why would you believe that just because people dont find other places to live that it is a choice? Many times people just cant afford to.
Poor people from the northeast usually dont go on vacations to the bahamas and Disneyworld? You believe they choose to avoid that as well?
https://www.princetonpolicy.com/ppa-blog/2019/7/29/baltimore-border-problems-share-common-cause
It appears the murder rate is HIGHER in Baltimore than in the Central American countries liberals claim migrants have to leave so they are not murdered. So these people can walk thousands of miles with nothing, yet Americans can’t leave Baltimore?
Just more proof how lopsided liberal ideas are in favor of illegal migrants compared to America citizens.
Mr Cummings has to be regretting all the light that is being shown on his district.
Quote: Boz
It appears the murder rate is HIGHER in Baltimore than in the Central American countries liberals claim migrants have to leave so they are not murdered. So these people can walk thousands of miles with nothing, yet Americans can’t leave Baltimore?
Just more proof how lopsided liberal ideas are in favor of illegal migrants compared to America citizens.
This is a super point! We see Americans who need help, but use limited resources (Libs THINK they are unlimited) to help illegals. It makes no sense...
Quote: Bozhttps://www.princetonpolicy.com/ppa-blog/2019/7/29/baltimore-border-problems-share-common-cause
It appears the murder rate is HIGHER in Baltimore than in the Central American countries liberals claim migrants have to leave so they are not murdered. So these people can walk thousands of miles with nothing, yet Americans can’t leave Baltimore?
Just more proof how lopsided liberal ideas are in favor of illegal migrants compared to America citizens.
Mr Cummings has to be regretting all the light that is being shown on his district.
You're talking like Baltimore is a foreign country
Make America Great Again
Seems like you have just given up and cant do it. Just whining about cities you probably have never visited
Ask all the people living off the welfare system if it's free.Quote: darkozAmerica is NOT a free country
Its actually a very expensive country
Unleas you have lots of power and money. Then you are free to commit crimes and get away with them
You knew what I meant by a free country. You had nothing else, so you just made it about something else. Nice try.
People are free to make a better life for themselves if they wish to.
Quote: darkozYou're talking like Baltimore is a foreign country
Make America Great Again
Seems like you have just given up and cant do it. Just whining about cities you probably have never visited
Seems like the foreign country is a better place.
Indeed MAGA. Get the mayor to do their job! Get their congressional rep to worry about their district not illegal aliens. Do you agree?
Quote: AZDuffmanSeems like the foreign country is a better place.
Indeed MAGA. Get the mayor to do their job! Get their congressional rep to worry about their district not illegal aliens. Do you agree?
Yes lets agree to help Baltimore
Insulting the city and its congressman is not the way to get it done.
Can we agree?
Quote: darkozYou're talking like Baltimore is a foreign country
Make America Great Again
Seems like you have just given up and cant do it. Just whining about cities you probably have never visited
Funny, I used to spend a lot of time in Baltimore. It was a short drive down 83 and we would go down for dinner in Inner Harbor many evenings. Went to many Orioles games and loved drinking at Fells Point.
Once I watched the riots at work one day a few years back, I stated I would never spend another dollar there, and I haven’t. I watched the looters rob and burn the CVS, the guy in the mask cut holes in the firefighters hose trying fight the fires, the Mayor defending it all. The commentators trying to defend the looting as payback for Asians coming into the neighborhood and opening businesses that take advantage of the minority’s.
Long before Trump started on Baltimore I made the decision to never step in that sh$$hole ever again. It may be part of America, but until people decide they have to want a better life there is nothing I or anyone else can do to help them.
Quote: AxelWolfAsk all the people living off the welfare system if it's free.
I will!
I can almost guarantee they will agree its not.
Hell, even Freeplay isnt free. You, of all people know how much someone has to pay for that
Quote: darkozYes lets agree to help Baltimore
Insulting the city and its congressman is not the way to get it done.
Can we agree?
No, we can not agree. Baltimore got $1.8 BILLION under the Obama pork, er "stimulus" plan. If that isn't "help" I do not know what on earth is.
Sometimes tough-love is needed. Like telling a useless, unemployed guy who drinks more than looks for work to get his act together and take care of his family. Trump called Baltimore out. The joke is we hear, "well, he is right, but it was still 'racist.'"
Baltimore needs to help itself.
Quote: BozAlways comes back to Racism when a far left liberal like you has nothing left.
Sad, just sad. In so many ways.
I see you're not denying it, either.
Sad, just sad. In so many ways.
Quote: rxwineHas Jared Kushner gone into hiding yet? He has 200 rental units in Baltimore cited for rats, mice and mold.
No, it's okay... he's a rich, white male. He won't have to worry about facing any serious consequences.
Quote: EvenBobBernie said Baltimore is a 3rd world
country and all we heard is crickets.
Oh, you mean this quote?
Quote:America is the wealthiest nation in the history of the world. But anyone who took the walk that we took around this neighborhood would not think you're in a wealthy nation. You would think that you were in a Third World country. What we're talking about is a community in which half of the people don't have jobs. We're talking about a community in which there are hundreds of buildings that are uninhabitable. We're talking about a community where kids are unable to go to schools that are decent....We spend $80 billion a year locking people up....We wouldn't have to do that if people had jobs and if people had an education.
See what happens when you don't take things out of context?
Quote: TigerWuI see you're not denying it, either.
Sad, just sad. In so many ways.
Why would he deny that liberals use the race card all the time when they have no intelligent rebuttal?
Yes, it is sad.
Atlanta 120
Chicago 75
Baltimore 52
Detroit 57
San Francisco 55
Cleveland 30
Philadelphia 71
Washington DC 109
Hartford 52
Many Republicans and Democrats have been President over this period, but one thing stays the same in these cities. Crime is high and many are poor despite money being dumped in these cities year after years.
Only logical question is why do the citizens continue to elect them?
Quote: BozNumber of years these cities have been run by Democratic Mayors:
Atlanta 120
Chicago 75
Baltimore 52
Detroit 57
San Francisco 55
Cleveland 30
Philadelphia 71
Washington DC 109
Hartford 52
Many Republicans and Democrats have been President over this period, but one thing stays the same in these cities. Crime is high and many are poor despite money being dumped in these cities year after years.
Only logical question is why do the citizens continue to elect them?
Here an answer.
Maybe when there is a Republican president who claims hes making America great again and bringing in jobs...
And then craps all over these cities...
They realize he's not representing them and they vote dem again.
I am really shaking my head at the pro business repubs who seeing a golden opportunity (bring prosperity to a lower class neighborhood) then do the unbusinesslike move of saying "screw all those potential voters"
Yes, makes total political sense...not!
Doesn't the GOP want more votes so they can stay in power?
Oh, let me guess, not if its African American voters or hispanics
Quote: darkozHere an answer.
Maybe when there is a Republican president who claims hes making America great again and bringing in jobs...
And then craps all over these cities...
They realize he's not representing them and they vote dem again.
I am really shaking my head at the pro business repubs who seeing a golden opportunity (bring prosperity to a lower class neighborhood) then do the unbusinesslike move of saying "screw all those potential voters"
Yes, makes total political sense...not!
Doesn't the GOP want more votes so they can stay in power?
Oh, let me guess, not if its African American voters or hispanics
Not at all answer. The OP showed that these cities are 50-100+ years electing Democrats, meaning Democrat ant GOP POTUSes.
How does he "crap all over these cities?" Please explain this comment. Cite examples.
"Pro-Business Republicans" have no "duty" to "bring prosperity" to these areas. Know why there are so few stores in many of these places? Because the stores get shoplifted to death. When people do open stores, the poverty pimps will say they are taking advantage or ripping off the neighborhood. Remember the 1992 LA riots where the Korean shop owners were made out to be the devil? Why would someone open a store to get stolen from and called a thief to the neighborhood?
The GOP does not waste their time on votes they will never get. The Democrats do not waste time on votes they will for sure get. So the people live in the squalor the Democrats provide, which is the way they want it. Well., they get it! I don't like it any more than you. But I see reality.
Quote: BozNumber of years these cities have been run by Democratic Mayors:
Atlanta 120
Chicago 75
Baltimore 52
Detroit 57
San Francisco 55
Cleveland 30
Philadelphia 71
Washington DC 109
Hartford 52
Many Republicans and Democrats have been President over this period, but one thing stays the same in these cities. Crime is high and many are poor despite money being dumped in these cities year after years.
Only logical question is why do the citizens continue to elect them?
Because correlation does not imply causality.
Quote: darkoz
Doesn't the GOP want more votes so they can stay in power?
Oh, let me guess, not if its African American voters or hispanics
I've never understood that, either....
"Democrats are just pandering to minorities to get their votes! They don't REALLY want to help them! They're the REAL racists!"
Okay, then what's YOUR plan to help minorities and get their votes?
"Oh.... well, we don't really want to help them either."
........
Quote: TigerWuBecause correlation does not imply causality.
But insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
Quote: darkoz
Its actually a very expensive country
Uh huh. That's why the majority of
people at the poverty level in the
US have a car, or access to one, an
air conditioner, a color TV, etc. Go
to Asia or Africa and see what people
at the poverty level own and get
back to us.
"The typical poor household, as defined by the government, has a car and air conditioning, two color televisions, cable or satellite TV, a DVD player, and a VCR. By its own report, the typical poor family was not hungry, was able to obtain medical care when needed.The typical average poor American has more living space in his home than the average (non-poor) European has."
Quote: EvenBob.
"The typical poor household, as defined by the government, has a car and air conditioning, two color televisions, cable or satellite TV, a DVD player, and a VCR. B" [/q
What’s a VCR?
