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It's an Airbus A321 and no I've never flown on one of his flights. My wife flies standby for free a few times a year but I've never done that cuz I don't go anywhere.
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The 3 series plane is a great plane and probably the best single aisle plane made. On the other hand, it is not very big and probably only flies very short international flights as they prefer to use the planes with more seats on those routes.
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I was wrong it's the Airbus A330 that he flies to Europe and back.
You’re actually a perpetual traveler since you live in a time zone two hours ahead of your home. Call it the twilight zoneQuote: EvenBobMy wife flies standby for free a few times a year but I've never done that cuz I don't go anywhere.
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Quote: Ace2You’re actually a perpetual traveler since you live in a time zone two hours ahead of your home. Call it the twilight zoneQuote: EvenBobMy wife flies standby for free a few times a year but I've never done that cuz I don't go anywhere.
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My daylight savings time is 1 hour faster than yours so that means you live in the ghetto Twilight Zone
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It's an Airbus A321 and no I've never flown on one of his flights. My wife flies standby for free a few times a year but I've never done that cuz I don't go anywhere.
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The 3 series plane is a great plane and probably the best single aisle plane made. On the other hand, it is not very big and probably only flies very short international flights as they prefer to use the planes with more seats on those routes.
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I was wrong it's the Airbus A330 that he flies to Europe and back.
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Are you just guessing now? American doesn't fly the A330 anymore.
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It's an Airbus A321 and no I've never flown on one of his flights. My wife flies standby for free a few times a year but I've never done that cuz I don't go anywhere.
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The 3 series plane is a great plane and probably the best single aisle plane made. On the other hand, it is not very big and probably only flies very short international flights as they prefer to use the planes with more seats on those routes.
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I was wrong it's the Airbus A330 that he flies to Europe and back.
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Are you just guessing now? American doesn't fly the A330 anymore.
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He used to fly them I just assumed he still was. I don't pay very close attention my wife does all that. Planes have never interested me very much and flying even less. I don't care if I never fly again. I remember the days when it was an adventure and people actually wore nice clothes. Now it's like riding on a Greyhound bus. Last time I flew back from Vegas 5 or 6 years ago a family of four across the aisle from me took out bags of smelly foreign food that stunk up the entire plane then they all went to sleep crossways on the seats with their feet sticking out into the aisle. I'm surprised they didn't have chickens and a goat with them.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/17/health/covid-origins-raccoon-dogs/index.html
Quote: DRichThis week they found a link between Raccoon Dogs and the COVID outbreak. I had never heard of raccoon dogs.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/17/health/covid-origins-raccoon-dogs/index.html
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Regular raccoons are ancestrally related to bears. Which I think explains the whole trashcan raiding similarity.
this is a pretty bizarre story - never heard of anything like it before
the Corporation that owns Madison Square Garden and Radio City Music Hall and other venues is using USING FACIAL RECOGNITION TO BAN ANY LAWYERS who work for the firms suing them from their entertainment places
the lawsuits against MSG are from shareholders re their merger
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Four 80 year old men finished a 100 mile race - pretty amazing
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2023/03/20/octogenarian-older-runners-ultramarathons-100-miles/
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Mr. West was born a slave, and ran away to fight for the Union Army during the Civil War.
In 1871, West was among the first blacks to be accepted by our nations police forces and he went to work as a night patrolman for the Washington DC police.
One night, on routine patrol, he pulled over a buggy for excessive speed. To his surprise, the driver was his Commanding Officer in the Army of the Potomac so after a lecture, he allowed the man to go free with a warning.
The very next night, Officer West pulled over a different buggy and was unhappy to have to deal with his former Commander once again.
The man, who had a reputation as one of the best horsemen in the country apologised, said it was late at night, the streets were empty and he was just blowing off steam at the end of a very hectic day. Officer West had sympathy for his former Superior Officer but believed the law either applied to all or it applied to none and reluctantly arrested the man.
It didn't matter that the man had been his commanding Officer, nor did it matter that in his new job, the man was President of The United States. Officer West took President Grant in to the police station where he was formally charged and released on $20 bail( about $500 in todays currency)
The story didn't make much of a splash in our country but was quite the sensation in Europe where arresting a noble or a leading politician was almost unheard of. The story of the negro who arrested the President spread slowly over the next few years and by 1876, Mr. West was part of a narrative that no American is above the law.
Mr West retired from the police force in 1902 and remains the only American law enforcement officer to arrest a US President, sitting ot otherwise.
I'm going to claim that at least portions of this story are BS. I'm on the record, but i haven't looked it up yet. Check backQuote: billryanI was just reading about William West, a largely forgotten man today but someone that was recognized for his deeds in his day.
Mr. West was born a slave, and ran away to fight for the Union Army during the Civil War.
In 1871, West was among the first blacks to be accepted by our nations police forces and he went to work as a night patrolman for the Washington DC police.
One night, on routine patrol, he pulled over a buggy for excessive speed. To his surprise, the driver was his Commanding Officer in the Army of the Potomac so after a lecture, he allowed the man to go free with a warning.
The very next night, Officer West pulled over a different buggy and was unhappy to have to deal with his former Commander once again.
The man, who had a reputation as one of the best horsemen in the country apologised, said it was late at night, the streets were empty and he was just blowing off steam at the end of a very hectic day. Officer West had sympathy for his former Superior Officer but believed the law either applied to all or it applied to none and reluctantly arrested the man.
It didn't matter that the man had been his commanding Officer, nor did it matter that in his new job, the man was President of The United States. Officer West took President Grant in to the police station where he was formally charged and released on $20 bail( about $500 in todays currency)
The story didn't make much of a splash in our country but was quite the sensation in Europe where arresting a noble or a leading politician was almost unheard of. The story of the negro who arrested the President spread slowly over the next few years and by 1876, Mr. West was part of a narrative that no American is above the law.
Mr West retired from the police force in 1902 and remains the only American law enforcement officer to arrest a US President, sitting ot otherwise.
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it is my opinion that it is of the 'much beloved story based on flimsy evidence' variety. But it appears I'll only be able to cite logic
*i believe the story would be much better known if true
*nobody is going to take the President to the police station
*perhaps some 'ticket' was given to Grant
*You'd have to show me Grant liked to shed off his regular protection and drive a buggy alone. I'd be more likely to believe he was racing a horse around, he was a good horseman all his life
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Cathy+Lanier+chief
Quote: odiousgambitthis story was repeated by Chief Lanier
it is my opinion that it is of the 'much beloved story based on flimsy evidence' variety. But it appears I'll only be able to cite logic
*i believe the story would be much better known if true
*nobody is going to take the President to the police station
*perhaps some 'ticket' was given to Grant
*You'd have to show me Grant liked to shed off his regular protection and drive a buggy alone. I'd be more likely to believe he was racing a horse around, he was a good horseman all his life
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Cathy+Lanier+chief
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Presidents didn't start having real protective details until President Garfield was killed.
Have you ever seen a sheriff, marshal or deputy issue a ticket in a western? If you've watched shows like Copper, which is based in roughly the same time, officers always bring suspects to the station. I don't know when desk appearance tickets started, but it was certainly after 1872.
It's the fact that he arrested the President that made the story.
Your problem is you are trying to filter the story thru 21st century lenses where police actions are very different.
I think it would be a story we were all familiar with, I've read plenty about Grant and this one wasn't in there. There probably is a basis for the story, and it's not unusual for such to get all exaggerated.Quote: billryan
Presidents didn't start having real protective details until President Garfield was killed.
Have you ever seen a sheriff, marshal or deputy issue a ticket in a western? If you've watched shows like Copper, which is based in roughly the same time, officers always bring suspects to the station. I don't know when desk appearance tickets started, but it was certainly after 1872.
It's the fact that he arrested the President that made the story.
I don't know that we need to sort out 'who has a problem'. You buy it, I don'tQuote:Your problem is you are trying to filter the story thru 21st century lenses where police actions are very different.
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*You'd have to show me Grant liked to shed off his regular protection and drive a buggy alone.
Presidents didn't have body guards until around 1900.
Quote: odiousgambitI think it would be a story we were all familiar with, I've read plenty about Grant and this one wasn't in there. There probably is a basis for the story, and it's not unusual for such to get all exaggerated.Quote: billryan
Presidents didn't start having real protective details until President Garfield was killed.
Have you ever seen a sheriff, marshal or deputy issue a ticket in a western? If you've watched shows like Copper, which is based in roughly the same time, officers always bring suspects to the station. I don't know when desk appearance tickets started, but it was certainly after 1872.
It's the fact that he arrested the President that made the story.I don't know that we need to sort out 'who has a problem'. You buy it, I don'tQuote:Your problem is you are trying to filter the story thru 21st century lenses where police actions are very different.
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If one googles' Was President Grant arrested" or "Has a US President ever been arrested", literally hundreds of articles come up.
You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.
I googled what you suggested and notice much has come up what with research spurred by the possibility that Trump will be arrested. Wasn't that supposed to be today?Quote: billryan
If one googles' Was President Grant arrested" or "Has a US President ever been arrested", literally hundreds of articles come up.
It does appear that this story has been out there, and that the WAPO loves it. But I see also that a Grant Pres. Library historian buys the story. I assume that other historians do not buy it, it was not included in the recent book "Grant" by Ron Chernow which I read cover to cover. It seems quite impossible that I would have missed such a delicious tidbit.
Well, OK, since evidently a real historian buys it, I'll have to shut up. But my BS detector is twitching.
I did, as I remember, say it was an opinion. I'm sorry you are taking it personally ... are you emotionally attached to this story, or do you just get emotional when a story you like gets challenged?Quote:You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.
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I assume it’s mostly because they’re just too damn lazy to walk them as needed, shouldn’t be anyone else’s problem though.
(“Cows get no respect.” Rodney DangerCowInField”)
You can now live on a cruise ship for 3 years at a cost of $30,000 per year.
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/3-year-cruise-mv-gemini/index.html
A three-year commitment would be a big dealbreaker for me.
I didn't hear any mention of an onboard casino.
I wonder if you could have a cat or a dog with you?
Quote: AxelWolfVery interesting.
You can now live on a cruise ship for 3 years at a cost of $30,000 per year.
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/3-year-cruise-mv-gemini/index.html
A three-year commitment would be a big dealbreaker for me.
I didn't hear any mention of an onboard casino.
I wonder if you could have a cat or a dog with you?
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After looking at the itinerary according to the article, I don't think I would ever travel again after that.
Quote: AxelWolfVery interesting.
You can now live on a cruise ship for 3 years at a cost of $30,000 per year.
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/3-year-cruise-mv-gemini/index.html
A three-year commitment would be a big dealbreaker for me.
I didn't hear any mention of an onboard casino.
I wonder if you could have a cat or a dog with you?
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I am interested to learn more about the singles mixers.
Quote: AxelWolfVery interesting.
You can now live on a cruise ship for 3 years at a cost of $30,000 per year.
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/3-year-cruise-mv-gemini/index.html
A three-year commitment would be a big dealbreaker for me.
I didn't hear any mention of an onboard casino.
I wonder if you could have a cat or a dog with you?
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While nice in theory, this sounds like a science experiment. Lets confine 300-500 strangers on a ship for three years and see what happens.
Who doesn't want to see the Lighthouse at Alexandria.
In the late 1980s, my two aunts lived on a ship for about six months. They wanted to do a year but it wasn't as great as they thought it would be. As the only long term residents of the ship, they were adopterd by the crew and treated like the ships grandparents. My one aunt loved it but the other one didn't and the bickering drove them to leave.
I was just visiting a relative who did a stint in the navy. He was looking forward to being at sea for the first few months. But it was an endless horizon of water most of the time. Of course it wasn’t a cruise ship, and didn’t always have good stops or service personnel unless you counted yourself. Meals below average, and poor entertainment. I suspect there might have been gambling though.
There's not enough Bonine onboard so I'll have to bring my own.
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I didn't hear any mention of an onboard casino.
I wonder if you could have a cat or a dog with you?
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The lone picture I saw showed double zero roulette.
They certainly don't mention anything about a casino. Seem like a good opportunity to run an underground Casino out of a suite.Quote: Dieter(trimmed)Quote: AxelWolf
I didn't hear any mention of an onboard casino.
I wonder if you could have a cat or a dog with you?
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The lone picture I saw showed double zero roulette.
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Quote: AxelWolfThey certainly don't mention anything about a casino. Seem like a good opportunity to run an underground Casino out of a suite.Quote: Dieter(trimmed)Quote: AxelWolf
I didn't hear any mention of an onboard casino.
I wonder if you could have a cat or a dog with you?
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The lone picture I saw showed double zero roulette.
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The sales brochure also doesn't mention that the ship was formerly oil worker housing.
Quote: AxelWolfVery interesting.
You can now live on a cruise ship for 3 years at a cost of $30,000 per year.
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/3-year-cruise-mv-gemini/index.html
A three-year commitment would be a big dealbreaker for me.
I didn't hear any mention of an onboard casino.
I wonder if you could have a cat or a dog with you?
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I think I would need much longer than 6-8 months to get everything worked out for such a 3-yr long cruise:
- passport (mine expires in 2026) and vaccinations, etc.
- finances and banking and tax filing arrangements for life aboard a cruise ship
- medical arrangements, prescriptions for three years
- selling or renting my house(s), house maintenance contracts
- disposing of my automobiles
- my pet dogs (!)
- reducing the amount of stuff I currently own
- phone and electronics for international travel
Of course, my wife wouldn't go for it, she lives for the grandkids. So, it's just a thought exercise. But the price is actually attractive, if you think you might want that kind of lifestyle.
Quote: billryanDoes the price include port fees? I don't see anything about them.
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The other articles I read said port fees would be included.
a "city killer" asteroid will come unusually close to us but it on course to pass harmlessly between the Earth and Moon
in 1908 an asteroid flattened 2,000 square kilometers of forest in Siberia
and about 50,000 years ago an iron asteroid hit what is today Arizona creating a crater .75 miles across and 600 feet deep
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/24/world/city-killer-asteroid-intl-scli-scn/index.html
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Quote: mcallister3200“Meteor Crater” by Flag imo has to give Grand Canyon West a run for biggest tourist trap in Arizona.
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Why? I'm thinking of going up there in a few weeks. How bad is it? I figured I'd do Fort Courage, which is abandoned but easily accessed, the Crater and Winslow before heading east. for some battlefield tours.
It looks great from the air.
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a "city killer" asteroid will come unusually close to us but it on course to pass harmlessly between the Earth and Moon
in 1908 an asteroid flattened 2,000 square kilometers of forest in Siberia
and about 50,000 years ago an iron asteroid hit what is today Arizona creating a crater .75 miles across and 600 feet deep
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/24/world/city-killer-asteroid-intl-scli-scn/index.html
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Many "scholars" believe the earth is only 12,000 years old. This Winslow crater might be the thumbprint of the creator, his final approval mark, as it is.
Quote: billryanQuote: mcallister3200“Meteor Crater” by Flag imo has to give Grand Canyon West a run for biggest tourist trap in Arizona.
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Why? I'm thinking of going up there in a few weeks. How bad is it? I figured I'd do Fort Courage, which is abandoned but easily accessed, the Crater and Winslow before heading east. for some battlefield tours.
It looks great from the air.
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It’s probably not “that” bad. It is just over done and overdeveloped probably because it’s private property…. I just don’t like natural attractions that are developed around to the point that it, in my opinion, takes away from the features themselves. Seems to be something you’d otherwise stop at for 10 minutes along the road or be able to go on a hike without being in a group of dozens.
Around Flag personally I much prefer Sunset Crater (cinder cone) and Wupatki Pueblo national monument.
I realize a crater from a cinder cone isn’t so rare like a meteor but I personally found it less enjoyable than the Amboy Crater off old Route 66, probably more because of the NATURE of the private property management/development than anything else.
Quote: rxwineWhat kind of candy making can cause a big explosion?
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Can I guess "any industrial scale confection involving corn starch"?
Revisiting the AI thing, today I bubbled up (or sank down) on a waiting list and was given access to start screwing around with Google's 'beta testing' version, named Bard, supposedly because the evil empire decided I'm a very special something or other. Right. Anyways, since I posted a few interactions with the "GPT" one that was recently acquired with so much publicity by the other evil empire, here's a few comparable interactions. Cliff's notes: This version was a bit more fun, not quite such a tightass jerk about anything interesting, and maybe more likely to be worth inviting to parties. But I wouldn't trust him; seems like he makes up skat to look smart if he's confused..
Quote: DrawingDeadWho will win the 12th race at Fairgrounds today?
Well that's interesting, and and if it happened would be an astounding accomplishment for everyone involved, since there's no "Slick and Fast" entered to run. A horse with that name does exist, and is currently in training at that track, but he just broke his maiden a couple of weeks ago. So maybe not the best handicapper ever, but at least he's game to try.Quote: BardBased on the information I have access to, I believe that the horse Slick and Fast will win the 12th race at Fairgrounds today. It has a good track record and is trained by a reputable trainer. It also has a good jockey and is in good health…<SNIP>...
Quote: DrawingDeadWho will win the Bourbonette Oaks?
Well ummm, no. Nobody "won" it "on March 25 2023". Not yet, since post time is more than an hour away. But that filly did indeed win the race. Eight years ago, and is now long since retired to the breeding shed..Quote: BardPurely a Dream won the Bourbonette Oaks on March 25, 2023.
So assuming Bard is already drunk and getting well into the communal staff bong at Google HQ this afternoon, I refined my questions to be fenced in with more detailed specifics embedded in the query, and got this out of him:
Well okay then. By the way, not that it matters here, but I think that's a reasonable answer, and I wouldn't move down to the other end of the bar after hearing it. Even though I happen to think it sets up just as well for Kingsbarns at a much better price. Winner buys the next round; Bard is a cheap date.Quote: BardBased on the information I have access to, I believe that the horse Instant Coffee will win the Louisiana Derby. It has a good track record and is trained by a reputable trainer. It also has a good jockey and is in good health.
However, it is important to note that horse racing is a complex sport and there are many factors that can affect the outcome of a race. Therefore, it is impossible to predict with certainty who will win any particular race.
Here are the odds for the top 5 horses in the Louisiana Derby:
Instant Coffee: 2-1
Sun Thunder: 5-1
Kingsbarns: 6-1
Disarm: 10-1
Tapit's Conquest: 10-1
I personally do not engage in any social media with the one exception of this forum, i.e., no facebook, twitter, etc. Would it be prudent to divorce your devises from tic toc and abandon it forever??
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As for TikTok, it's all the rage, but I haven't opened an account yet. I don't dance and I don't have any content. Facebook & twitter are run by Nazis, so when Nazis get up in your grill and you complain, the Nazis in charge will deplatform you. I had my logins to McDonald's and Wendy's on Facebook, then I got deplatformed, so I couldn't log-in anymore. Now I have to use my e-mail to log-in to McDonald's or Wendy's.
Women have been strongly urged to disconnect from their "period tracker apps" because of state gov't laws that are raining down upon women. I don't have Hulu so I can't watch The Handmaid's Tale, but that is what the pundits are referring to all the time when it comes to current governance overspreading the nation. China may be a foreign problem, but the domestic terrorism being put into law all over the place is a strong reason to unplug from the internet. Stronger folks may stay on the internet to protest, but weaker ones will have to cut their odds of getting hit by the gov't and get off. Doctors in smaller red states are leaving because of the threat of being locked up with the key thrown away for helping women in medical distress.
