ItsCalledSoccer
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February 23rd, 2011 at 8:26:26 PM permalink
Where I live, it's $3.75.

I thought it would be interesting to look at prices with all this stuff going on over in the Middle East.

I heard a gas station owner say in an interview, no, they're not paying a higher price for gas YET, but they anticipate a higher price and need to have the cash-on-hand right away to pay for it, so they raise the prices right away. I don't know if I buy that or not, but I have heard of other businesses doing that, especially financial services (in anticipation of inflation, etc.).
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February 23rd, 2011 at 8:45:00 PM permalink
It just jumped up a dime yesterday, from $2.99 to $3.09. If you want to find the cheapest gas where you live, a good website is:

http://www.gasbuddy.com/
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February 23rd, 2011 at 9:20:13 PM permalink
$3.30 in W MI. Why post how much it is if you don't say where you live.
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February 23rd, 2011 at 9:22:24 PM permalink
$1.15 a liter
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February 23rd, 2011 at 9:33:40 PM permalink
£1.35 per litre in the UK where I live. That's about $2.50 per litre or $9.50 per US gallon.

Cigarettes are around $9.50 a pack of 20.

If you smoke and drive a big car then you had better be on a good income :-)
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February 23rd, 2011 at 9:36:53 PM permalink
I use to live on the island of st kitts......it was $12 a gallon in 2005
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February 23rd, 2011 at 10:20:58 PM permalink
Quote: Switch

£1.35 per litre in the UK where I live. That's about $2.50 per litre or $9.50 per US gallon.

Cigarettes are around $9.50 a pack of 20.

If you smoke and drive a big car then you had better be on a good income :-)


Americans are so spoiled. We may have been a Superpower for much of the 20th Century, but we're on the way down right now. For all you people here in the States who are whining that gas is $3.50/gal....read the quote above. We've been paying a great price for so long compared to the rest of the world.

I moved from Seattle area in 2009, where recycling and Priuses were the norm, to Las Vegas, where I've never seen so many Hummers and high-end Benzes in my life, and no one recycles anything. 911s are dime a dozen here. Today, gas is $3.30 for reg unleaded. Get used to it peeps; it's never gonna be $2 again.
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February 24th, 2011 at 12:00:50 AM permalink
I looked yesterday at prices around the area (southwest of Houston). Most places were up a dime over the day before ($2.95 to $3.05 was pretty standard).
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February 24th, 2011 at 12:16:13 AM permalink
Currently fluctuates between about $1.35 and $1.50 per liter depending on the day of the week.
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February 24th, 2011 at 12:45:30 AM permalink
In the NE the Best is Citgo and Irving. But about 3.30.
I have a Prius and I can get shocked at the fluctuation between fill ups.
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February 24th, 2011 at 4:18:24 AM permalink
Just jumped to $3.25 here in Pittsburgh. That was last night, might have gone up overnight.

Aren't we all glad we have a President who refused to allow oil drilling?
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February 24th, 2011 at 4:48:09 AM permalink
$3.09 here in Northern New Jersey.

But that's not all.

Not only is it cheaper than in neighboring states, in NJ it's illegal to pump your own gas. Unless I'm mistaken, there's only one other state like that, but I don't know which.
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February 24th, 2011 at 4:51:05 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

in NJ it's illegal to pump your own gas. Unless I'm mistaken, there's only one other state like that, but I don't know which.



I believe it is Oregon. I read about it in this book a personal favourite of mine.
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February 24th, 2011 at 5:05:27 AM permalink
In Finland the average at the moment is 1.503 per liter which translates to $7.822 per gallon. I think the right prize for gas in US would be $10 per gallon as it would reduce the environmental effects caused by pollution from private motoring ;)
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February 24th, 2011 at 6:13:00 AM permalink
Quote: Switch

£1.35 per litre in the UK where I live. That's about $2.50 per litre or $9.50 per US gallon.

Cigarettes are around $9.50 a pack of 20.

If you smoke and drive a big car then you had better be on a good income :-)



I second this, you guys over there have no idea how lucky you are, here motor insurance is mandatory too! Young people pay up to $1500 a year just for insurance, some even more.

We do however have fish and chips, the Queen and crap weather. So there!
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February 24th, 2011 at 6:35:01 AM permalink
Richmond, BC also has this rule. My landlord was the city councillor who was responsible for this law about 40 years ago. It's still in place to this day.

Gas is $1.23/L in the Falls (about $4.75 / gallon USD). I'm planning to jump the border today and buy some at $3.50 a gallon and save myself $20.

Keep in mind that gasoline is VERY cheap here compared to Europe.

Regarding drilling, we've had this conversation. Off-shore Drilling would do very little to ease up the reliance of the US on foreign oil. The United States produces 11.25 quads (quadrillion BTU) of oil energy while it consumes 35.21. You would have to triple oil energy production to make it self-sustaining. America's solution is to use electricity to power its vehicles, raise gasoline taxes and encourage people to drive fuel efficient cars. America has an abundance of coal and natural gas which is convertbile to electricity. Yes, you would have to upgrade the grid, but it would reduce the appetite on foreign oil and would cause us to kiss up less to dictators like Chavez and Khaddafi. The reduction of demand would also lower oil prices worldwide.

A better bet is shale. Apparently, the United States has over 60 percent of the world's reserves in Shale which eclipses the total worldwide reserves of conventional oil.
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February 24th, 2011 at 6:42:25 AM permalink
Quote: Jufo81

I think the right prize for gas in US would be 10$ per gallon as it would reduce the climate change caused by pollution from private motoring ;)



And when that's licked, we need to do something about the unicorns.

As best I can make out, gas is currently at US $3.00 in Mexico (9.70 pesos per liter, assuming an exhange rate of 12.2 pesos to the dollar, and there being 3.78 liters to the gallon).

BTW gas prices reflect oil prices and production costs only up to a point. The rest is made of taxes and fees imposed by the government. Remove the latter and gas prices would drop all over Europe.
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February 24th, 2011 at 8:25:01 AM permalink
I made a point of complaining about the price of fuel last time I visited a petrol station, full tank of about 40 litres for £52 ($78).

He pointed out that I was reluctant to pay £1.30 a litre for oil that had been drilled up from the middle ocean, shipped back to land, refined, tested and checked, shipped to my country, transported to a fuel depot, checked again, transported to a petrol station, and then pumped into my fuel tank. Yet I was happy to pay £1.50 for a litre of spring water that ultimately fell from the sky.

He had clearly had this prepared, and was waiting for the day to unleash it...... Words failed to materialise in my mouth at the time, and I was forced to walk back to the car feeling utterly beaten. I was only three miles away I came up with "I dont drink 80 litres of spring water a week" but by that time I was too far to turn round and waste more fuel to make a point that he might even of had a better come back for.

I no longer use that petrol station.
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February 24th, 2011 at 8:37:06 AM permalink
After conversions, works out to USD $4.65 a gallon. Gas prices are so high here (Montréal) because of government taxes. The breakdown of taxes in this city is as follows:

Actual acquisition cost: $2.78
Canada Excise tax: $0.37
Québec Fuel tax: $0.60
Montréal Public Transit tax: $0.11
Canada GST tax: $0.19
Québec QST tax: $0.35
Profit to Gas Station: $0.25

Tax as a % of total cost: 35%
Profit as a % of total cost: 0.5%

What's interesting to note, the GST is taxed after the other 3 gas taxes are applied to the base amount. Then, the QST is taxed after the GST and 3 other taxes are applied. That means the GST is taxed on tax and the QST is taxed on taxed tax!! And of course, we all pay for this with after tax income...

Apparently all these taxes are still not enough to fund our government programs, so the QST is going up 1% in 2012!
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February 24th, 2011 at 8:57:31 AM permalink
Quote: cardshark

After conversions, works out to USD $4.65 a gallon. Gas prices are so high here (Montréal) because of government taxes



LOL I'd cut my right ear off to only pay $4.65
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February 24th, 2011 at 9:20:54 AM permalink
Quote: WizardofEngland

I second this, you guys over there have no idea how lucky you are, here motor insurance is mandatory too! Young people pay up to $1500 a year just for insurance, some even more.

Insurance is mandatory here in The States, too. (At least in most jurisdictions, including mine). I pay $90x12=$1080 a year for insurance.

Right now I am boycotting gas because of high prices. I haven't bought gas since January. I'm commuting by bike -- in the winter -- on shitty roads. Fun!
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February 24th, 2011 at 9:42:16 AM permalink
Quote: WizardofEngland

I made a point of complaining about the price of fuel last time I visited a petrol station, full tank of about 40 litres for £52 ($78).



Bad idea.

As you've learned, sometimes employees talk back. But first, employees ahve no say over the price. next time talk to the owner or the manager. It won't do you any good, but you're likely to get better treatment.
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February 24th, 2011 at 9:45:23 AM permalink
Insewerants is mandatory in most countries/provinces/states... in BC it's all provided by one government-run corporation. I pay about $1100 per year, with about 10% no claims bonus.

I'm glad of it though, as it means there's a good chance that if some toe-rag runs into me, I can get the money out of them to fix my car.

Gas is $1.16/litre right now. That's $4.29 a US gallon or $5.22 for a super-sized UK gallon.
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February 24th, 2011 at 12:03:53 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

Bad idea.

As you've learned, sometimes employees talk back. But first, employees ahve no say over the price. next time talk to the owner or the manager. It won't do you any good, but you're likely to get better treatment.



It was actually the owner, who turns out to be a friend of a friend of a friend. And he makes about £1 Million a year pre tax profits. So I am unsympathetic to a degree, he *only* make 3p a litre, government makes about 30p a litre for doing nothing.
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February 24th, 2011 at 12:19:51 PM permalink
Quote: WizardofEngland

It was actually the owner, who turns out to be a friend of a friend of a friend. And he makes about £1 Million a year pre tax profits. So I am unsympathetic to a degree, he *only* make 3p a litre, government makes about 30p a litre for doing nothing.



Odd. He shouldn't want to drive customers away.

Do you pay for bottled water, BTW? That's one of the most unnecessary expanses in the world. I've a water filter at home and pay for tap water, and we use a UV/filter system at the office (and that dispenses cold and hot water). I buy bottled water only when I'm out and want water, but that's rare.

Milk is way more expensive than gas, too, but no one I know consumes that much milk.
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February 24th, 2011 at 12:25:14 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

Odd. He shouldn't want to drive customers away.

Do you pay for bottled water, BTW? That's one of the most unnecessary expanses in the world. I've a water filter at home and pay for tap water, and we use a UV/filter system at the office (and that dispenses cold and hot water). I buy bottled water only when I'm out and want water, but that's rare.

Milk is way more expensive than gas, too, but no one I know consumes that much milk.



Yes I did buy the water, my in car water purification system must of been on the blink that day.....
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February 24th, 2011 at 1:32:44 PM permalink
Quote: zippyboy

Americans are so spoiled. We may have been a Superpower for much of the 20th Century, but we're on the way down right now. For all you people here in the States who are whining that gas is $3.50/gal....read the quote above. We've been paying a great price for so long compared to the rest of the world.



Some of that is supply. Compared to most of Europe (Norway excepted) we do get about half of our oil from domestic sources, and a great deal of the rest from Western Hemisphere countries (which by nature of the size of the American economy have to work within dictates of American fiscal policy).

If oil begins to be priced in Euros you will probably see a massive destabilization of the dollar. We are still printing our way out of the worst of our troubles. You can't print oil.
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February 24th, 2011 at 1:38:19 PM permalink
Quote: RonC

I looked yesterday at prices around the area (southwest of Houston). Most places were up a dime over the day before ($2.95 to $3.05 was pretty standard).



The same gas station that went up a dime the other day dropped back .02 by last night ($3.03) but jumped to $3.19 while I was at work today.

I drove around a bit of Houston today for work and prices were all above the $3.10 level...none were above $3.20...yet!!
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February 24th, 2011 at 2:01:47 PM permalink
Quote: Jufo81

In Finland the average at the moment is 1.503 per liter which translates to $7.822 per gallon. I think the right prize for gas in US would be $10 per gallon as it would reduce the environmental effects caused by pollution from private motoring ;)



Mass transit understandably increases when the price of gas goes up. Unfortunately the regulatory agencies usually increase the price of the transit since all systems are subsidized anyway. Then the gas price goes down and the transit prices stay up.

The dissemination of jobs in the USA keeps up at a pace that mass transit can never keep up. Philadelphia peaked in population 60 years ago, and that is more the norm for the older cities. As the city centers deteriorate, mass transit increasingly is not taking people to the correct place. NYC is the major exception to the rule.

Of course, we are reaping the results of our own history. In the 1950's when Japan started building it's high speed rail system, the USA invested in interstates. In the 1980's when Europe began building it's high speed rail system, the USA deregulated airlines.


Quote: French regulation


All vehicles driving on French roads must now carry a yellow fluorescent jacket, that can be put on if the driver has to get out in an emergency. The jacket must be carried in the car, not in the boot (not in the trunk), and be readily accessible. Drivers not carrying the obligatory jacket may receive an instant fine of up to 130 Euros, if stopped by police.



Is this rule common throughout Europe, or is it being considered? I have never heard of it being discussed in the USA.
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February 24th, 2011 at 2:20:44 PM permalink
Quote: WizardofEngland

Yes I did buy the water, my in car water purification system must of been on the blink that day.....



I have acquired one of a radical, newfangled invention called a "plastic drinking bottle." It holds clean, drinking water just as well as the overpriced, factory-bottled water bottles do. If you can't find one, then I'm told the overpriced factory-bottled water bottles can be used after you've drank all the overpriced filtered tap water, and can hold home-filtered tap water just as well :P
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February 24th, 2011 at 2:24:04 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

I have acquired one of a radical, newfangled invention called a "plastic drinking bottle." It holds clean, drinking water just as well as the overpriced, factory-bottled water bottles do. If you can't find one, then I'm told the overpriced factory-bottled water bottles can be used after you've drank all the overpriced filtered tap water, and can hold home-filtered tap water just as well :P



I know that was meant as a snide remark, but actually, you shouldn't reuse plastic water bottles. Health info here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reuse_of_water_bottles
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February 24th, 2011 at 2:34:41 PM permalink
Quote: cardshark

I know that was meant as a snide remark, but actually, you shouldn't reuse plastic water bottles. Health info here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reuse_of_water_bottles



lol touche ;-) thats why i dont re-use plastic bottles.
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February 24th, 2011 at 2:56:14 PM permalink
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Quote: DJTeddyBear

in NJ it's illegal to pump your own gas. Unless I'm mistaken, there's only one other state like that, but I don't know which.



I believe it is Oregon. I read about it in this book a personal favourite of mine.



Oregon is correct, and regular unleaded is around $3.35/gal +/- $0.15 in the Portland metro right now.
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February 24th, 2011 at 3:26:09 PM permalink
Quote: WizardofEngland

lol touche ;-) thats why i dont re-use plastic bottles.



We have a 'water island' in the grocery store where we can refill a gallon plastic jug once we buy it. I refill the same jugs all the time and there is no warnings not to. I also spent my whole childhood riding a bike without a helmet and owned cars in the 60's and 70's that had no seat belts. I'm lucky to be alive.
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February 24th, 2011 at 3:34:58 PM permalink
Quote: cardshark

I know that was meant as a snide remark, but actually, you shouldn't reuse plastic water bottles. Health info here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reuse_of_water_bottles



I haven't read it. That said, most warnings not to re-use plastic are way overblown. Sure, you won't re-use a cheap bottle of overpriced water forever, but it's ok a couple of time.

So long as you remember to wash it with di-hydrogen monoxide (it's a pernicious health hazzard used to srub floors, and it's been found in every single cancerous cell ever studied!)
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February 24th, 2011 at 3:36:56 PM permalink
The water jug is probably reusable. The crappy plastic they use in disposal water bottles can harbour all sorts of germs and crap.

I just use a good old sports water bottle. Does the job fine, and no need to pay $2 for water... big fat con game is bottled water, and also a waste of resources... shipping tonnes of water across the world to places with adequate water supplies. Or "filtering" Peckham tap water to make Dansani...
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February 24th, 2011 at 3:43:30 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

Milk is way more expensive than gas, too, but no one I know consumes that much milk.

Milk is cheaper than gas here and has been for about a year.

I use a reusable metal bottle for water that I purchased for $10. It seems to resist getting too 'funky' with smells and such. It's not perfect but is suitable.
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February 24th, 2011 at 4:01:32 PM permalink
Quote: teddys

Milk is cheaper than gas here and has been for about a year.



I buy milk wholesale due to my job. The price we get from the manufacturer for regular, whole, ultrapasteurized milk is maybe 10-15% higher than gas. The retail price is higher.

I've heard in the US this kind of milk isn't very popular, though, and pasteurized milk might be cheaper. It's been years since I've dealt with any. I find it much more convenient to store unopened cartons for up to 6 months in any cupbaord.
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February 24th, 2011 at 4:05:55 PM permalink
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The water jug is probably reusable. The crappy plastic they use in disposal water bottles can harbour all sorts of germs and crap.



Anything can, indeed everything does, harbor all sorts of germs and crap (spores, mold, fungi, etc). The air is full of such things, and they settle on any surface theyc ome inc ontact with. In water they can grow and multiply. That's why you don't leave water containers open, and why you wash them. but if you wash the cheap bottle of overpriced water, you should be ok.

After washing them several times, the plastic may degrade and release various chemicals. That's why it's not recommended you re-use them much. But four or five times is safe enough.

Or you can drink diet Coke or Pepsi max. Better yet, coffee :P
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February 24th, 2011 at 4:37:09 PM permalink
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A better bet is shale. Apparently, the United States has over 60 percent of the world's reserves in Shale which eclipses the total worldwide reserves of conventional oil.



Besides the Obama Administration discouraging and even prohibiting development of shale oil I often wonder when it will come to pass. Back in the late 1980s they said oil needed to be at about $80/bbl for shale to work out. Inflation might raise that but tech breakthrus should lower it. But we have a POTUS who thinks gas comes from the gas station.....

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February 24th, 2011 at 5:05:33 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

Anything can, indeed everything does, harbor all sorts of germs and crap (spores, mold, fungi, etc). The air is full of such things, and they settle on any surface theyc ome inc ontact with. In water they can grow and multiply. That's why you don't leave water containers open, and why you wash them. but if you wash the cheap bottle of overpriced water, you should be ok.



Indeed, but the disposable type of bottle is much more prone to it, with your mouth being all over that thing. I trust a water jug people -pour- from. Not so much a bottle people drink directly from and can't get in an scrub and clean as well.
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February 24th, 2011 at 5:42:44 PM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

Indeed, but the disposable type of bottle is much more prone to it, with your mouth being all over that thing. I trust a water jug people -pour- from. Not so much a bottle people drink directly from and can't get in an scrub and clean as well.



If your mouth was on it, then you arleady had the bacteria and such in your mouth to begin with. Meaning you have it also.

Besides it's as easy to scrub as any other kind of container
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February 24th, 2011 at 5:48:06 PM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

. big fat con game is bottled water, and also a waste of resources... .



No its not. I have undrinkable hard well water, everybody around here does. The refillable jug water is .39 a gallon, well worth it.
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February 24th, 2011 at 6:18:18 PM permalink
GAS - the one thing that I'm really surprised about is that there seems to be very few diesel cars in the US. The new diesel cars are quiet and as fast as petrol (gas) cars as a lot of them are fitted with injectors or turbos. A high % of cars in the UK are diesel and this relates to the high cost of the gas - it's a big selling point for a company that can advertise a car that does over 60mpg but can still travel at over 100mph.

WATER - I live in a great area in the UK for water as it comes from the Welsh Hills so it's soft with no aftertaste at all. I do not see the need for bottled water there, HOWEVER, in places such as Vegas (where I am now), the water even smells like a swimming pool let alone tasting it. I couldn't imagine drinking anything else than bottled water while I'm here.
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February 24th, 2011 at 9:35:03 PM permalink
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Some of that is supply. Compared to most of Europe (Norway excepted) we do get about half of our oil from domestic sources, and a great deal of the rest from Western Hemisphere countries (which by nature of the size of the American economy have to work within dictates of American fiscal policy).

If oil begins to be priced in Euros you will probably see a massive destabilization of the dollar. We are still printing our way out of the worst of our troubles. You can't print oil.



No. 2009 figures show that the United States produces 11.25 quads of oil and consumes 35.21 quads, or about 32 percent. To make up the balance, the United States imports 5.25 quads from Canada, 2.56 quads from Mexico and 2.25 quads from Venezuela. To round out the top 10, you have Saudi Arabia (2.13), Nigeria (1.71) , Russia (1.19), Algeria, Angola, Iraq, and Brazil (0.65). The other 25 percent of imports come from a plethora of nations.
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February 24th, 2011 at 9:45:19 PM permalink
Quote: Switch

GAS - the one thing that I'm really surprised about is that there seems to be very few diesel cars in the US.



Possibly a matter of availability and cost. As far as I know Diesel cars are more expensive than gas cars. And not every gas station sells diesel fuel.

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HOWEVER, in places such as Vegas (where I am now), the water even smells like a swimming pool let alone tasting it. I couldn't imagine drinking anything else than bottled water while I'm here.



I've had tap water at every hotel I've stayed in Vegas (Sahara IP and Rio). It seemed fine to me and I didn't get sick or suffer any discomfort. Of course, coming from Mexico I'm probably immune to all that ;)
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February 24th, 2011 at 9:56:11 PM permalink
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No its not. I have undrinkable hard well water, everybody around here does. The refillable jug water is .39 a gallon, well worth it.



I wasn't talking about filtered water, sold in bulk. I understand why that's useful product for those who live in areas with non-potable water.

I was talking about $2 bottles of water a pint from the head waters of a French mountain, sold in a store in Oregon or BC or Sheffield, England. That's a waste and a rip off. Sold in a disposable bottle that half the time ends up in landfill. That's a waste of energy and time and money.
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February 25th, 2011 at 1:56:17 AM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

Sold in a disposable bottle that half the time ends up in landfill.



This is something else I don't understand. Oil is in the ground. We take it out, make a bottle out of it, and put the bottle back in the ground, where it came from. Where exactly is the harm? I have presented this very argument to at least three rabid Greenies over the years and they never have an answer, they just stare at me like I have dog crap on my shoe and wander away.
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February 25th, 2011 at 6:52:25 AM permalink
EvenBob, you make a decent point. I don't feel too badly about plastic bottles in landfills as they compact fairly well and will decompose fairly quickly. Late studies have shown that bacterial microbes living in landfills will make them decompose faster. However, it will take hundreds if not thousands of years for someone to revisit the landfill and reextract the oil from that plastic bottle. Recycling makes it available immediately for reuse meaning that it will take much less energy to extract it from the ground and create a new plastic bottle.
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February 25th, 2011 at 6:59:14 AM permalink
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