I looked at prices on GasBuddy.com and our prices are even cheaper than the cheapest city listed, which was in Fort Collins, CO, about 45 minutes north of me.
Quote: WizardofEnglandPretty sure they can name their price, motorways are often 5-10% more, supermarkets usually 5-10% less than average
It's free range, but a lot of the prices is taken up with taxes, so there's less over all range.
One notable exception is "Desert Refill Stations".
Quote: EvenBobThey just popped to $4.15 in W MI yesterday. I saw a post-it
note on a pump and then read this.
Guess what I'll be doing from now on.
Nice. I first heard about the notes about a year ago, probably died down when price moderated last summer.
FWIW here in W-PA we are pennies under $4/gal for regular with premium grades over it already. Two weeks ago in W-NY they were already over $4 in sopts. I expect $4 here next week.
Driving a hybrid? :)Quote: EvenBobGuess what I'll be doing from now on.
Seriously, its an effective political salvo but Obama has very little to do with gas prices. Oil is still a free market in the U.S.. We are not China, or even Mexico, that has a state run monopoly on fuel. The price reflects what people are willing to pay. Would the Keystone XL pipeline decrease domestic prices? Maybe; or maybe all that oil would just flow to the Gulf and go to other countries. It is what the market demands.
The price of oil going up is actually good for exploration and shale drilling because its makes it economically feasible for companies to develop those technologies. The plunge in natural gas prices has pretty much put the chill on shale drilling in PA/NY.
Quote: teddys
Seriously, its an effective political salvo but Obama has very little to do with gas prices. .
Oh, but he does. If he allows more drilling and
more exploration, it sends a signal to OPEC and
they get worried that we're serious and they find ways
to get the price down.
Maybe, but doubtful. OPEC has fuck-all influence on global oil prices now. They lost the power to control the price of petroleum by opening a spigot in Jeddah years ago. I'm sure if they could lower prices now they would. They see the high prices make us start getting serious about developing alternative fuels and energy sources, and they get scared that the sole tentpole of their economy may become obsolete.Quote: EvenBobOh, but he does. If he allows more drilling and
more exploration, it sends a signal to OPEC and
they get worried that we're serious and they find ways
to get the price down.
Quote: buzzpaffGrand Junction Colorado 85 Octane $3.09 -$3.19 Meas County Food Stamps 10% of population
This was on feb 27. Today it is $3.79 and $3.94
Quote: buzzpaffThis was on feb 27. Today it is $3.79 and $3.94
Yeah, we had it good a month ago. I most recently paid $3.649, so we still have it better than most.
Quote: CrystalMathYeah, we had it good a month ago. I most recently paid $3.649, so we still have it better than most.
You haven't gotten the 'summer gas' yet. It costs more to
refine and we just got it.
Quote: boymimboA better bet is shale. Apparently, the United States has over 60 percent of the world's reserves in Shale which eclipses the total worldwide reserves of conventional oil.
UPDATE: Turns out that the size of California's shale oil reserves have been drastically exagerated. The new estimate is that 600 million barrels of oil can be extracted with existing technology, far below the 13.7 billion barrels once thought recoverable, the U.S. Energy Information Administration said. (That's a 96% downgrade. Oops.) Prior to this downgrade, the much-publicized Monterey formation accounted for nearly two-thirds of all technically-recoverable US shale oil resources.
The caveat is that this revised estimate is based upon current technology, so maybe those numbers may go back up again in the future as technology improves.
And I know, this is one thing I don't blame him for. Here in PA the state raised gas taxes to the 2nd highest in the nation.
It would be more if the NZ dollar wasn't so strong recently.
That said, anyone in will feel the effect of a price rise in their own country - what people pay overseas is irrelevant.
A large percentage of our gas price is various taxes and other charges. I think this also explains the higher prices in Europe/UK.
US average is 50 cents per gallon.
I guess that is why we have good BJ rules in PA, they are making up for it in gas tax.
I need some structure to make sense of the info. I definitely am not going to sift through all posts, but it might be more readable if each participant just filed in a line in a table like this. Just quote and insert your row at the appropriate rank of price.
U.S. | ||
---|---|---|
Place 1, CA | $1.30 | /gallon |
Place 2, NV | $3.20 | /gallon |
Place 3, PA | $5.38 | /gallon |
Elsewhere | |||
---|---|---|---|
London, UK | £1.20 | =$2.30 | Litre |
Christchurch, NZ | NZD 3.10 | =$2.50 | gallon |
Mexico | Peso 55.3 | =$3.60 | Litre |
I totally made up the figures, of course.
I was surprised to find out there is still oil being recovered directly underneath urban Los Angeles. There are producing oil wells in Beverly Hills, for example.Quote: renoUPDATE: Turns out that the size of California's shale oil reserves have been drastically exagerated. The new estimate is that 600 million barrels of oil can be extracted with existing technology, far below the 13.7 billion barrels once thought recoverable, the U.S. Energy Information Administration said. (That's a 96% downgrade. Oops.) Prior to this downgrade, the much-publicized Monterey formation accounted for nearly two-thirds of all technically-recoverable US shale oil resources.
2.85 here, goes down every day. Shale is finally
starting to pay off, despite the Libs total opposition
to it.
Quote: EvenBobOil dived more than $4 a barrel on Tuesday, its biggest drop in more than two years as mounting evidence of slackening demand and unrelenting U.S. shale output"
2.85 here, goes down every day. Shale is finally
starting to pay off, despite the Libs total opposition
to it.
Things have changed in oil wells so much in the past 10 years. Some of these wells out here are pushing 6 km in total length thats what 3.7 miles from where the wellhead is to the end of the well. The most ZONES I can recall on any well I worked on was 28. A zone being a different area of the pipe that has been opened up and frac'd ( pumping water sand and some chemicals down the well to that zone to fracture the ground and fill the cracks with tons of sand....the water comes back out but most of the sand stands in place which provides a area for the oil or gas to flow to the well pipe) This allows them to cover a bigger area of the shale with a single well.
Price keeps dropping its going to slow the whole industry down in Western Canada and the US of A.
Last I saw gas here in Red Deer Alberta was 1.12 a L that works out to $3.90 US per US gallon for us.... expensive because we pay about $1.50 Can per US gallon in taxes (free healthcare you know)
High oil prices have helped the Texas economy keep moving; there is some price level that would cool things off a bit.
Quote: teddysI was surprised to find out there is still oil being recovered directly underneath urban Los Angeles. There are producing oil wells in Beverly Hills, for example.
A guy who knew told me there are gas wells in downtown Pittsburgh.
Or there is this..
$3.19 and a free coffee. All over Vegas.Quote: RonCRegular gas here in Southeast Texas is at $2.93-$2.99 in most places. It goes up as you get into the city of Houston.
High oil prices have helped the Texas economy keep moving; there is some price level that would cool things off a bit.
I consider that a fair price especially after paying almost $5.
In 1997 I was paying $3.40 for the 103 octane for my sports car(I don't see it sold anymore). Everybody bitches when its high but no one ever says anything when its a fair price. They just say how they remember paying 70 cents a gallon.
Quote: bwNJ $2.85
...do they also pump it for you still in NJ?
Quote: RonC...do they also pump it for you still in NJ?
Yes, pumping it yourself still not legal in NJ.
Starting price was $3.39
PA has one of the worst taxes for gas.
$3.19 in Las vegas this morning.
Quote: GWAE
PA has one of the worst taxes for gas.
Lol, that's cute.
Now 3.25
re: High-Octane gas. Down here, Sunoco specializes in keeping one pump of it per station for racecars and other applications. Don't know if you have Sunoco in Vegas. It's the NASCAR nation around the South.
Quote: beachbumbabs$3.10 in Central Florida.
re: High-Octane gas. Down here, Sunoco specializes in keeping one pump of it per station for racecars and other applications. Don't know if you have Sunoco in Vegas. It's the NASCAR nation around the South.
That's all we bought in the late 60's
when gas was 30 cents a gallon.
Sunoco 260, it was racing fuel right
at the pump. We ran it in the big
high performance V8 Dodges and
Chevy's.
8 coil crews work out of my shop.... every crew was in the shop today with no jobs on the board for over a week
Time to catch up on some preventative maintenance I guess
oil companies are not going to spend million per well to break even or even lose money bringing the oil and gas to surface.... let it AGE a bit more and wait out a increase in price.
interesting video if you have 10 minutes on a oil well drilling that went wrong
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddlrGkeOzsI
Quote: coilman$80 a barrel and work crashes to a stop
Just like gold mining, drops below 1200 an
ounce and the major mining companies
close down.
Quote: ontariodealerNiagara falls today: 1.23 a litre here and 3.29 a gallon in the u.s.a.
ONdealer, by my maths, that's $4.66C/gal ($4.11US/gal) for gas in Niagara Falls. With that significant of a price difference, do people regularly cross the bridge just to fill up?
It's a two minute drive to my gas station. My gas tank holds 18 gallons, and I normally fill up 15 gallons. To save $12.30 US ($14 Cdn), I must drive 15 minutes, each way to a good gas station, plus deal with the border crossing which can take anywhere from 2 to 20 minutes, each way.
So, allow for an hour. And it costs me about 3L of gas to go back and forth, so I am only saving about $8.50 USD.
Spending an hour of my time to save $8.50 is a waste of time.
Other people do it. They may have NEXUS, so no border wait. And they have time to kill. I'll always fill up if my car finds itself in the USA and time my gas fillups to those anticipated entries.