CrystalMath
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March 6th, 2012 at 8:52:25 AM permalink
For some reason, we have the cheapest gas in the country right now. I paid $3.089 at Conoco yesterday. If I desired, I could damage my car at U-pump-it for $3.019.

I looked at prices on GasBuddy.com and our prices are even cheaper than the cheapest city listed, which was in Fort Collins, CO, about 45 minutes north of me.
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March 6th, 2012 at 9:00:59 AM permalink
Same here in Grand Junction, 250 miles from Crystal and on the other side of the Rocky Mountains, Go figure !
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March 6th, 2012 at 10:53:28 AM permalink
Quote: WizardofEngland

Pretty sure they can name their price, motorways are often 5-10% more, supermarkets usually 5-10% less than average



It's free range, but a lot of the prices is taken up with taxes, so there's less over all range.
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March 6th, 2012 at 3:34:24 PM permalink
Outside of taxes, prices seem to generally follow the AGI (Average Gross Income) of the Zip-Code... Higher AGI=higher gas prices.
One notable exception is "Desert Refill Stations".
Some people need to reimagine their thinking.
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March 7th, 2012 at 1:57:26 PM permalink
I paid $4.85/gal on the big island of Hawaii a few days ago.
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March 29th, 2012 at 1:51:56 PM permalink
They just popped to $4.15 in W MI yesterday. I saw a post-it
note on a pump and then read this.

Guess what I'll be doing from now on.
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March 29th, 2012 at 2:07:31 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

They just popped to $4.15 in W MI yesterday. I saw a post-it
note on a pump and then read this.

Guess what I'll be doing from now on.



Nice. I first heard about the notes about a year ago, probably died down when price moderated last summer.

FWIW here in W-PA we are pennies under $4/gal for regular with premium grades over it already. Two weeks ago in W-NY they were already over $4 in sopts. I expect $4 here next week.
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March 29th, 2012 at 2:23:12 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Guess what I'll be doing from now on.

Driving a hybrid? :)

Seriously, its an effective political salvo but Obama has very little to do with gas prices. Oil is still a free market in the U.S.. We are not China, or even Mexico, that has a state run monopoly on fuel. The price reflects what people are willing to pay. Would the Keystone XL pipeline decrease domestic prices? Maybe; or maybe all that oil would just flow to the Gulf and go to other countries. It is what the market demands.

The price of oil going up is actually good for exploration and shale drilling because its makes it economically feasible for companies to develop those technologies. The plunge in natural gas prices has pretty much put the chill on shale drilling in PA/NY.
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March 29th, 2012 at 3:25:54 PM permalink
Quote: teddys



Seriously, its an effective political salvo but Obama has very little to do with gas prices. .



Oh, but he does. If he allows more drilling and
more exploration, it sends a signal to OPEC and
they get worried that we're serious and they find ways
to get the price down.
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March 29th, 2012 at 5:31:51 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Oh, but he does. If he allows more drilling and
more exploration, it sends a signal to OPEC and
they get worried that we're serious and they find ways
to get the price down.

Maybe, but doubtful. OPEC has fuck-all influence on global oil prices now. They lost the power to control the price of petroleum by opening a spigot in Jeddah years ago. I'm sure if they could lower prices now they would. They see the high prices make us start getting serious about developing alternative fuels and energy sources, and they get scared that the sole tentpole of their economy may become obsolete.
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March 29th, 2012 at 7:52:22 PM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

Grand Junction Colorado 85 Octane $3.09 -$3.19 Meas County Food Stamps 10% of population




This was on feb 27. Today it is $3.79 and $3.94
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March 29th, 2012 at 8:01:04 PM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

This was on feb 27. Today it is $3.79 and $3.94



Yeah, we had it good a month ago. I most recently paid $3.649, so we still have it better than most.
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March 29th, 2012 at 8:12:09 PM permalink
Quote: CrystalMath

Yeah, we had it good a month ago. I most recently paid $3.649, so we still have it better than most.



You haven't gotten the 'summer gas' yet. It costs more to
refine and we just got it.
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May 29th, 2014 at 12:12:27 PM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

A better bet is shale. Apparently, the United States has over 60 percent of the world's reserves in Shale which eclipses the total worldwide reserves of conventional oil.



UPDATE: Turns out that the size of California's shale oil reserves have been drastically exagerated. The new estimate is that 600 million barrels of oil can be extracted with existing technology, far below the 13.7 billion barrels once thought recoverable, the U.S. Energy Information Administration said. (That's a 96% downgrade. Oops.) Prior to this downgrade, the much-publicized Monterey formation accounted for nearly two-thirds of all technically-recoverable US shale oil resources.

The caveat is that this revised estimate is based upon current technology, so maybe those numbers may go back up again in the future as technology improves.

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May 29th, 2014 at 12:33:39 PM permalink
I still long for the days when Obama took office in January 2009 and the national average price of gas was $1.85.

And I know, this is one thing I don't blame him for. Here in PA the state raised gas taxes to the 2nd highest in the nation.
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May 29th, 2014 at 12:47:09 PM permalink
When I first bought the TDi in 2002, Premium and Diesel were both $1.219. Now its triple that, and Diesel kicks in another 1/2 dollar.
Some people need to reimagine their thinking.
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May 29th, 2014 at 5:54:41 PM permalink
Think I paid $4.11/gal a few days ago (but that's premium), here in LV.
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May 29th, 2014 at 7:38:17 PM permalink
In New Zealand, about NZ$2.20 per litre = about US$10 per gallon.
It would be more if the NZ dollar wasn't so strong recently.

That said, anyone in will feel the effect of a price rise in their own country - what people pay overseas is irrelevant.
A large percentage of our gas price is various taxes and other charges. I think this also explains the higher prices in Europe/UK.
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June 1st, 2014 at 6:08:44 AM permalink
As a side note to this discussion, you can see the tax per gallon by state, courtesy of the American Petroleum Institute, HERE on page 2.

US average is 50 cents per gallon.
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June 1st, 2014 at 6:32:08 AM permalink
that is interesting johnnyQ

I guess that is why we have good BJ rules in PA, they are making up for it in gas tax.
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June 1st, 2014 at 7:01:00 AM permalink
I have not read all twelve pages of this thread, so excuse me if I repeat something said before.
I need some structure to make sense of the info. I definitely am not going to sift through all posts, but it might be more readable if each participant just filed in a line in a table like this. Just quote and insert your row at the appropriate rank of price.

U.S.
Place 1, CA $1.30 /gallon
Place 2, NV $3.20 /gallon
Place 3, PA $5.38 /gallon
Elsewhere
London, UK £1.20 =$2.30 Litre
Christchurch, NZ NZD 3.10 =$2.50 gallon
Mexico Peso 55.3 =$3.60 Litre


I totally made up the figures, of course.
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June 1st, 2014 at 8:08:17 AM permalink
It was $4.59 a gallon for regular in Greenwich Ct yesterday. Some of our cars require premium.
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June 2nd, 2014 at 3:25:55 PM permalink
Quote: reno

UPDATE: Turns out that the size of California's shale oil reserves have been drastically exagerated. The new estimate is that 600 million barrels of oil can be extracted with existing technology, far below the 13.7 billion barrels once thought recoverable, the U.S. Energy Information Administration said. (That's a 96% downgrade. Oops.) Prior to this downgrade, the much-publicized Monterey formation accounted for nearly two-thirds of all technically-recoverable US shale oil resources.

I was surprised to find out there is still oil being recovered directly underneath urban Los Angeles. There are producing oil wells in Beverly Hills, for example.
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June 2nd, 2014 at 7:15:35 PM permalink
I fiilled up today for $57 for 15 gallons of mid-grade(91).
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October 14th, 2014 at 8:12:14 PM permalink
Oil dived more than $4 a barrel on Tuesday, its biggest drop in more than two years as mounting evidence of slackening demand and unrelenting U.S. shale output"

2.85 here, goes down every day. Shale is finally
starting to pay off, despite the Libs total opposition
to it.
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October 14th, 2014 at 9:10:08 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Oil dived more than $4 a barrel on Tuesday, its biggest drop in more than two years as mounting evidence of slackening demand and unrelenting U.S. shale output"

2.85 here, goes down every day. Shale is finally
starting to pay off, despite the Libs total opposition
to it.




Things have changed in oil wells so much in the past 10 years. Some of these wells out here are pushing 6 km in total length thats what 3.7 miles from where the wellhead is to the end of the well. The most ZONES I can recall on any well I worked on was 28. A zone being a different area of the pipe that has been opened up and frac'd ( pumping water sand and some chemicals down the well to that zone to fracture the ground and fill the cracks with tons of sand....the water comes back out but most of the sand stands in place which provides a area for the oil or gas to flow to the well pipe) This allows them to cover a bigger area of the shale with a single well.

Price keeps dropping its going to slow the whole industry down in Western Canada and the US of A.

Last I saw gas here in Red Deer Alberta was 1.12 a L that works out to $3.90 US per US gallon for us.... expensive because we pay about $1.50 Can per US gallon in taxes (free healthcare you know)
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October 15th, 2014 at 3:39:33 AM permalink
Regular gas here in Southeast Texas is at $2.93-$2.99 in most places. It goes up as you get into the city of Houston.

High oil prices have helped the Texas economy keep moving; there is some price level that would cool things off a bit.
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October 15th, 2014 at 3:45:13 AM permalink
Quote: teddys

I was surprised to find out there is still oil being recovered directly underneath urban Los Angeles. There are producing oil wells in Beverly Hills, for example.



A guy who knew told me there are gas wells in downtown Pittsburgh.

Or there is this..

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October 15th, 2014 at 3:55:38 AM permalink
Quote: RonC

Regular gas here in Southeast Texas is at $2.93-$2.99 in most places. It goes up as you get into the city of Houston.

High oil prices have helped the Texas economy keep moving; there is some price level that would cool things off a bit.

$3.19 and a free coffee. All over Vegas.

I consider that a fair price especially after paying almost $5.

In 1997 I was paying $3.40 for the 103 octane for my sports car(I don't see it sold anymore). Everybody bitches when its high but no one ever says anything when its a fair price. They just say how they remember paying 70 cents a gallon.
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October 15th, 2014 at 6:31:00 AM permalink
Gas was down pretty low this week in the NorthWest. I filled up for $3.06/gal, but it shot up to $3.16 yesterday.
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October 15th, 2014 at 8:45:49 AM permalink
NJ $2.85
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October 15th, 2014 at 8:57:35 AM permalink
Brazil - PR state - U$4.30/gal
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October 15th, 2014 at 9:03:04 AM permalink
Quote: bw

NJ $2.85



...do they also pump it for you still in NJ?
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October 15th, 2014 at 9:11:21 AM permalink
Quote: RonC

...do they also pump it for you still in NJ?



Yes, pumping it yourself still not legal in NJ.
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October 15th, 2014 at 9:28:23 AM permalink
Gas is still around 5 cents a gallon in Venezuala.
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October 15th, 2014 at 10:20:30 AM permalink
just now seeing below $3 here in VA
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October 15th, 2014 at 10:35:39 AM permalink
I filled up 30 gallons for $0.00 after my fuel perks yesterday.

Starting price was $3.39

PA has one of the worst taxes for gas.
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October 15th, 2014 at 10:38:31 AM permalink
I paid $3.89 in Reno on Sunday but that station was probably marked up crazy because it was by the airport.

$3.19 in Las vegas this morning.
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October 15th, 2014 at 11:52:00 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE


PA has one of the worst taxes for gas.



Lol, that's cute.

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October 15th, 2014 at 12:25:04 PM permalink
I'm surprised fuelly.com doesn't show gas price information... or may be it does somewhere I can't see.
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October 15th, 2014 at 12:39:16 PM permalink
I use GasBuddy. http://www.gasbuddy.com/
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October 15th, 2014 at 2:14:46 PM permalink
$3.09 in Ohio today.
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October 15th, 2014 at 2:18:53 PM permalink
Went up 30 cents in my area since yesterday.
Now 3.25
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October 15th, 2014 at 2:21:23 PM permalink
$3.10 in Central Florida.

re: High-Octane gas. Down here, Sunoco specializes in keeping one pump of it per station for racecars and other applications. Don't know if you have Sunoco in Vegas. It's the NASCAR nation around the South.
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October 15th, 2014 at 2:27:06 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

$3.10 in Central Florida.

re: High-Octane gas. Down here, Sunoco specializes in keeping one pump of it per station for racecars and other applications. Don't know if you have Sunoco in Vegas. It's the NASCAR nation around the South.



That's all we bought in the late 60's
when gas was 30 cents a gallon.
Sunoco 260, it was racing fuel right
at the pump. We ran it in the big
high performance V8 Dodges and
Chevy's.
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October 15th, 2014 at 9:54:26 PM permalink
$80 a barrel and work crashes to a stop

8 coil crews work out of my shop.... every crew was in the shop today with no jobs on the board for over a week

Time to catch up on some preventative maintenance I guess


oil companies are not going to spend million per well to break even or even lose money bringing the oil and gas to surface.... let it AGE a bit more and wait out a increase in price.


interesting video if you have 10 minutes on a oil well drilling that went wrong

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddlrGkeOzsI
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October 15th, 2014 at 10:30:59 PM permalink
Niagara falls today: 1.23 a litre here and 3.29 a gallon in the u.s.a.
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October 16th, 2014 at 12:24:09 AM permalink
Quote: coilman

$80 a barrel and work crashes to a stop



Just like gold mining, drops below 1200 an
ounce and the major mining companies
close down.
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October 16th, 2014 at 6:38:53 AM permalink
$3.09 in Northeast FL.

Quote: ontariodealer

Niagara falls today: 1.23 a litre here and 3.29 a gallon in the u.s.a.


ONdealer, by my maths, that's $4.66C/gal ($4.11US/gal) for gas in Niagara Falls. With that significant of a price difference, do people regularly cross the bridge just to fill up?
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October 16th, 2014 at 6:52:42 AM permalink
Yes. I don't.

It's a two minute drive to my gas station. My gas tank holds 18 gallons, and I normally fill up 15 gallons. To save $12.30 US ($14 Cdn), I must drive 15 minutes, each way to a good gas station, plus deal with the border crossing which can take anywhere from 2 to 20 minutes, each way.

So, allow for an hour. And it costs me about 3L of gas to go back and forth, so I am only saving about $8.50 USD.

Spending an hour of my time to save $8.50 is a waste of time.

Other people do it. They may have NEXUS, so no border wait. And they have time to kill. I'll always fill up if my car finds itself in the USA and time my gas fillups to those anticipated entries.
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