HOLY SH*TQuote: coilmaninteresting video if you have 10 minutes on a oil well drilling that went wrong
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddlrGkeOzsI
HOLY SH*TQuote: coilmaninteresting video if you have 10 minutes on a oil well drilling that went wrong
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddlrGkeOzsI
Quote: Joeman$3.09 in Northeast FL.
ONdealer, by my maths, that's $4.66C/gal ($4.11US/gal) for gas in Niagara Falls. With that significant of a price difference, do people regularly cross the bridge just to fill up?
I don't bother but tons of people go over the bridge to the u.s.once a week for gas and groceries...........the funny thing is that the cheap gas on the u.s. side comes from st Catharines Ontario.
let's use 50c per the link
12 gallons of gas saving 20c per gallon [rare of course] $2.40
you have to drive less than 4.8 miles round trip to keep from breaking even on your move.
Of course, it can be satisfying to stick it to the local greedy businessmen or tax system.
http://newsroom.aaa.com/tag/driving-cost-per-mile/
Quote: odiousgambitThe fact is, it is not worth driving but the shortest distances to get a better price on gas.
For about 15 years now I have been more and more amazed what people will do to save a pittance on gasoline. One guy was drivig Rochester to Chicago so he brought up gas buddy online. Said he wanted to check the prices. My private thought was "what's the difference?" If you are driving there you have to buy it no matter what. If $0.25 a gallon will break you then the trip is too expensive.
I will do small things, such as avoid the stations here at the airport and the first one off the Parkway which have higher prices and I know that. Or stop right before/after I cross PA/NY. In those cases I know it is going to be $0.25 or even more per and I know where the next station is at. Otherwise location, amenities at the station, and even easier pumps to use matter.
FWIW when I had a company gas card I used mostly Mobil as they were the easiest pumps to use with our gas card. After having a card a few years I actually didn't notice posted prices much. I felt on a small level what some "out of touch" people must feel when they do not know the price of a gallon of milk. I just didn't care much.
10/15.......... $2.84
10/17.......... $2.77
A 7 cent drop in two days in NJ.
Quote: AZDuffmanFor about 15 years now I have been more and more amazed what people will do to save a pittance on gasoline..
That's my wife. The tank will be half full
and she see's gas that's 5 cents cheaper
than at home and she wants me to fill up.
Nope, I say, and she gets pissed off. When
we finally get gas at the regular price, she
gets a Starbucks for $6 instead of the gas
station coffee for $1.50.. When I point out
that we would have saved a lousy 60 cents
on gas, why can't can't she figure out how
to save $4.50 on coffee, she gets really
pissed.
Recently, I bought 20 gallons of gas at $2.98 per gallon, then the price drops even lower ... $2.78. I save $4 per fill up.
By the way, Delta offers the cheapest gas price because it buys cheaply this bankrupted Getty gas station and converts it into another Delta. As you can see in the pictures, Delta just keeps the old gray pole and changes the sign from "Getty" to "Delta". That's what I call..."Excellent Operational efficiency!"

Quote: Mission146$2.99 in Ohio, today.
That's pretty high.
I filled my car Monday it was $2.65. I am sure it is lower now.
Quote: pokerfaceThat's pretty high.
I filled my car Monday it was $2.65. I am sure it is lower now.
I can assure you it is not as high as PA, and as far as WV goes, it's strange, always close but one seems to usually be lower than the other, which one seems to change, though.
One theory is that they are trying to put the hurt on the Frackers and the Oil Sands producers, who need the price to be $75+
I have no strong opinion about Obama either way, but I love your comment.Quote: Dalex64Why isn't anyone blaming Obama?
I'm just pissed the gas tanks are full, but I said that when I seen $3.05.
Once you get below $75, that hurts Alberta, as odious alluded to.
Not entirely; Western Canadian Select is down from $85 to $75 in the last two months.Quote: boymimboAlberta Crude has been selling at $85 for a while now, as their selling prices are different than say West Texas or North Sea crude. As oil prices drop around the world, Alberta's price has remained stable.
Once you get below $75, that hurts Alberta, as odious alluded to.
Quote: beachbumbabsI think it's possible the Saudis are taking the long view and trying to minimize the value of the ISIL theft. The lower the price of gas, the less assets ISIL has to work with, because they mainly took over oil wells and are counting on that income to fund their operations. Make the oil wells worthless, either with cheap crude or by disrupting the flow to market, or even destroying the wells ISIL holds, and they're out of business.
I also think the US government is encouraging the Saudis to do it. Low oil prices is one of the hardest ways to hit Russia economically.
Quote: beernuts$2.66 per gal
Vermont or Peru?
I do everything I can to get the best gas mileage. I accelerate smoothly, I stick to the spped limit, and I keep my Firestone tires properly inflated.
It works too!!
Quote: beernutsIt's $2.66 at the local Chevron.
!
Is the Chevron in the US?
Quote: odiousgambit
One theory is that they are trying to put the hurt on the Frackers and the Oil Sands producers, who need the price to be $75+
We also bring natural gas and propane to the surface using the FRAC method. Last winter people who heated using PROPANE got hurt as bad as people that heat using electricity due to shortage and demand
Waiting to see how the next six weeks go out here..... oil companies have set budgets and usually try to spend them before year end
October was a decent month for my crew and most of the other crews around our shop too
$1.02 a Litre out here about $3.40 US per US gallon
Quote: coilman
$1.02 a Litre out here about $3.40 US per US gallon
I think you need to check your math.
Quote: DRichI think you need to check your math.
$1.02 X 3.8 X.88= $3.41 US per US gallon
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That includes my 5 cent Member Discount.
That includes my 5 Cent Member Discount.
Are you in Saudi Arabia?Quote: Gandler0.95 (American dollars) a gallon here
Quote: Gandler0.95 (American dollars) a gallon here
Too much! It's only $0.18 in Venezuela.
Quote: teddysAre you in Saudi Arabia?
Qatar
is suicidal, the entire country is on welfare and
this is hurting them bad. Awwwwww....
Quote: ten2win$2.39.9 @ Sam's Club in Albuquerque for 86 Octane Regular/Gallon.
That includes my 5 Cent Member Discount.
This begs a side question, does anyone know why pump gas is 1 octane lower in the west than in the east? In the east it will be 87 but in the west it was often 86.
but I've appointed myself the "begs the question" police. You mean "raises a side question"
don't feel bad, I see very educated people make this mistake, and I only knew different recently myself. The problem is a bad translation from the original Greek, I believe, of the expression. The meaning is "your argument is faulty, it is a circular argument"
it drives you nuts once you know. The best thing is to just not use the expression.
Quote: AZDuffmanThis begs a side question, does anyone know why pump gas is 1 octane lower in the west than in the east? In the east it will be 87 but in the west it was often 86.
In general, the higher the altitude the less octane is needed to burn correctly. If you go to mountainous areas you will still see a lot of 85 octane fuel.
It's called the"Winter Blend".
Something to do with air pollution reduction.
Usually, November until April or May, IIRC.
Along with that comes a concomitant drop in MPG.
Quote: DRichIn general, the higher the altitude the less octane is needed to burn correctly. If you go to mountainous areas you will still see a lot of 85 octane fuel.
Makes sense though your logic might be backwards. Octane is about keeping fuel from burning, so less oxygen in higher altitudes means already harder to burn. Never saw 85 but I will buy your explanation until I hear a better one. Thanks!
Quote: ten2winThey also increase the amount of Ethanol this time of year.
It's called the"Winter Blend".
Something to do with air pollution reduction.
Usually, November until April or May, IIRC.
Along with that comes a concomitant drop in MPG.
Yes, winter blend, also happens when you drive to different metros. Chicago has a special blend, which makes fuel prices higher there. Back in the 1980s this is why cars used to run bad if you got a warm-snap in the winter as they also used to adjust blends for weather and car performance. Not sure how much this is still the case.
FWIW and to show myself a total nerd, "winter blend" will actually raise but not lower octane. Ethanol has really high octane. But people think higher octane = more power. This is not the case, octane level and "energy level" are not related. The reason performance cars use high octane gas, along with fighter planes of WWII, is resistance to combustion. Said engines have high compression which gives higher power, but higher compression makes gasoline want to combust before the spark.
Now that I have beaten that into the ground, back to your regularly scheduled discussions of bringing back nuked members and freeing Pete Rose.
Quote: AZDuffmanNever saw 85.
Every station here, near Denver, offers 85, 87, and 91.
lined up for $2.85, now nobody even
cares, all their tanks are full.
http://www.kalamazoogasprices.com/
$2.75 in Ohio. We kind of get ripped off since Sheetz took over I think and prices here aren't as low as they used to be because they control the price. Employees at other stations have told me they only match their price and never make the first move lower so it all depends on Sheetz.Quote: EvenBob$2.29 in W MI. A month ago they were
lined up for $2.85, now nobody even
cares, all their tanks are full.
http://www.kalamazoogasprices.com/
The only time I laugh about gas is when I see people topping their tanks paying to give the gas back to the station free. I get angry when the stations charge for air though. Wasted gas from poorly inflated tires just gets delayed spent and shouldn't be seen as a lost profit. Some stations have free air with gas purchase but some don't.