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February 16th, 2018 at 12:31:54 PM permalink
Now up 41% since I started, but slowly shifting from stocks to bonds as I can smell retirement...... I am almost back to the highs after the 'correction' of two Dow -1000 days. Is this upturn a 're-correction"?
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February 16th, 2018 at 1:53:22 PM permalink
When did you start? 41% is great if you started 2 years ago but if it was 10....
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February 16th, 2018 at 5:18:56 PM permalink
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When did you start? 41% is great if you started 2 years ago but if it was 10....



Its almost 4 years ago. I am pretty sure I trail the overall market. But in my defense, I have been putting some of this into bonds, so maybe 20% of this portfolio is now in bonds making around 3% a year. Certainly better than a financial planner would do for me recommending 40% in stocks and 60% in bonds.
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February 16th, 2018 at 5:22:35 PM permalink
No one ( I don't meant that how it sounds) cares how much a successful doctor(prophinal god) with a hot fiancé is doing. We only care how the successful AP''s without an education and rich(successful) parents are doing.

How are all the previous homeless guys doing.?

FYI I have never been dumb enough to be homeless.
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May 14th, 2018 at 7:19:26 AM permalink
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Now up 41% since I started, but slowly shifting from stocks to bonds as I can smell retirement...... I am almost back to the highs after the 'correction' of two Dow -1000 days. Is this upturn a 're-correction"?



This portfolio now up 43%. Another 2% since mid February. I'll take it. As you all know the market had been down significantly ("must be Trump's fault") but has come back again! (must be in spite of Trump!)
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May 14th, 2018 at 7:47:52 AM permalink
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No one ( I don't meant that how it sounds) cares how much a successful doctor(prophinal god) with a hot fiancé is doing. We only care how the successful AP''s without an education and rich(successful) parents are doing.

How are all the previous homeless guys doing.?

FYI I have never been dumb enough to be homeless.



Im interested in hearing how a doctor with a hot fiance is doing. The fact that the doctor has gone through years of schooling to better himself and complete what he started says a ton about the character of an individual. Someone who is helping others through his profession and hot relying on entitlements from family.

40% return in 2 years is outstanding and better than most wall street professional return... far more. Now can we hear more about the hot fiance? lol
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May 14th, 2018 at 8:44:58 AM permalink
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FYI I have never been dumb enough to be homeless.

I do not consider myself to be dumb. Scored in the top six percent in the nation on all that College Board and LSAT stuff, top percentile in (Iowa or Ohio) Standardized achievement tests in Junior High or something. Vocabulary scores equivalent to college senior when I was in fifth grade.

Unlucky with quacks.
And totally helpless with basic arithmetic.
For those of you who have read my Only In Horse Shoes and Grenades thread at DT, I was the brightest in the nation but undone by my "see food" diet and in that lone respect perhaps I was indeed the stupidest in the nation that day.

So yes, I am homeless but overall I am NOT dumb.
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May 14th, 2018 at 8:51:32 AM permalink
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This portfolio now up 43%. Another 2% since mid February. I'll take it. As you all know the market had been down significantly ("must be Trump's fault") but has come back again! (must be in spite of Trump!)



You should add the ETF QQQ to your portfolio. Thank me later
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May 14th, 2018 at 8:55:33 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Its almost 4 years ago. I am pretty sure I trail the overall market. But in my defense, I have been putting some of this into bonds, so maybe 20% of this portfolio is now in bonds making around 3% a year. Certainly better than a financial planner would do for me recommending 40% in stocks and 60% in bonds.



Bonds are not safe right now
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May 14th, 2018 at 11:02:54 AM permalink
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Im interested in hearing how a doctor with a hot fiance is doing. The fact that the doctor has gone through years of schooling to better himself and complete what he started says a ton about the character of an individual. Someone who is helping others through his profession and hot relying on entitlements from family.

40% return in 2 years is outstanding and better than most wall street professional return... far more. Now can we hear more about the hot fiance? lol




Thank you. I came from what we called a 'lower middle class' family.
It is NOT 40% in two years, I think it is now 4 years. It definitely trails 'the market' mostly because a bunch is now in bonds making 2-4% depending on maturity, risk, etc...
As far as the hot fiancee, I am very lucky. She is a dentist, so is equally educated. She works very hard, harder than I do know for sure. She is only 9 years younger than I am, but looks much younger. I read some of the comments by EvenBob here about women and I want to mention her but have always avoided it. She is interested in 'private activities' at a large multiple compared to any of the wives or girlfriends of friends or colleagues I know.

As far as how 'hot' she is, I'll allow Mike or Axel to comment.
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May 14th, 2018 at 11:09:53 AM permalink
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You should add the ETF QQQ to your portfolio. Thank me later



Thanks ZK. I have owned QQQ for decades. Still do. I am actually pretty sure it was QQQQ when I bought it. It's heavily Amazon and Google and Apple I believe.

As far as troop's comment that 'bonds are not safe', I understand the risk. But the risk is mostly in someone else valuing the bond at lower than I purchased it, but if held to maturity I know what I'm getting. My 7 year bond I bought paying 3.25% will pay me $3,250 every year for 7 years and then the $100,000 back at the end of year 7. If I need to liquidate the bond after 3 years I could lose money if interest rates go up enough.
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May 14th, 2018 at 6:34:05 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Thanks ZK. I have owned QQQ for decades. Still do. I am actually pretty sure it was QQQQ when I bought it. It's heavily Amazon and Google and Apple I believe.

As far as troop's comment that 'bonds are not safe', I understand the risk. But the risk is mostly in someone else valuing the bond at lower than I purchased it, but if held to maturity I know what I'm getting. My 7 year bond I bought paying 3.25% will pay me $3,250 every year for 7 years and then the $100,000 back at the end of year 7. If I need to liquidate the bond after 3 years I could lose money if interest rates go up enough.



It's actually much more than just a tech fund with just the big tech names, it's quite a diversified fund and at such a low expense ratio cost compared to the returns it has brought over the last 5-10 years. It is averaging close to 25% a year for the last 5 years and i believe last time I checked 15% a year for the last 10 years. Even offers a dividend of close to 1%.

I was also a fan of VGT, which is a pure tech play, but id rather have a more diversified fund. Tech is not going anywhere for the next 30 years or so and so i want my fund to be primarily tech, but it sure doesnt hurt to have some healthcare or consumer defensive picks in there etc.
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May 14th, 2018 at 8:36:38 PM permalink
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I made these purchases on 1/5/15:

Wynn: 75 shares at $144
MGM: 500 shares at $20.50

Current values:

Wynn: $125.64 (but it did pay a $2 per share dividend recently)
MGM: $19.66

In short, I stink at picking stocks. Not just these purchases but my whole lifetime record. I'm almost as bad at the stock market as I am with women.



Let's see how I'm doing on those. I still hold both.

Wynn: $191.63
MGM: $32.32

Not bad for a little over three years! A rare stock choice that did well. Still, my advice on picking stocks is don't listen to my advice.
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May 15th, 2018 at 1:03:07 AM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

It's actually much more than just a tech fund with just the big tech names, it's quite a diversified fund and at such a low expense ratio cost compared to the returns it has brought over the last 5-10 years. It is averaging close to 25% a year for the last 5 years and i believe last time I checked 15% a year for the last 10 years. Even offers a dividend of close to 1%.

I was also a fan of VGT, which is a pure tech play, but id rather have a more diversified fund. Tech is not going anywhere for the next 30 years or so and so i want my fund to be primarily tech, but it sure doesnt hurt to have some healthcare or consumer defensive picks in there etc.



QQQ was a great fund, but unless you believe Apple and a few other tech companies are going to keep doing what they did for the past decade, it may not be the fund for you. Then again, if you think those few stocks will mirror the past ten years, why not invest in them instead of a broader index fund.
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May 15th, 2018 at 1:57:27 AM permalink
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I am asking for forum members, who are kind enough to, to each recommend a stock for me to buy, and I will then have a "WoV' portfolio! There are no pre-determined criteria, just that it is easy to buy on TD Ameritrade.

Hi, are you restricted to which markets you can buy? UK market? UK AIM?
Last year, I was fortunate enough to buy a few thousand GBP worth of Burford Capital. They provide litigation finance and their stock is in rapid exponential ascent.
http://www.iii.co.uk/investment/detail?display=discussion&code=cotn:BUR.L&it=le
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=burford+share+price

Switch to 1 year or 5 year view.

Made me about 35% in 7 months
I love share prices that rise exponentially :o)

I also like and hold Astra Zeneca https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=astra+zeneca+price a nice steady growth stock.

Sadly, I've sat on A LOT OF BT plc shares for 30 years. Made money in the distant past but lost tens of thousands in the last couple of years. MIGHT be ripe for a take-over by Deutsche Telekom or a Chinese Telecoms group such as ZTE. That's in a real nasty downtrend. https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=bt+share+price

The CEO of BT is coming under a lot of flak for being an incompetent idiot. I met him once 1 to 1 at a conference, when he was a mid to high ranking manager and I was a tech. A few decades ago. We were talking about malware and some of the old style desktop 'premium rate' porn dialer scams. He told me how his parents had one and had run up a MASSIVE phone bill ( bear in mind who he works for) I asked him what he'd done to get the malware sorted for his folks and he basically had no answer. That struck me as massively thoughtless, careless and ignorant. I know it's a trivial anecdote, but I guessed when he rose to be CEO that he would be no good. So far I'm proved right. Mind you, BT has had a stream of hopeless CEOs.
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May 15th, 2018 at 3:28:41 AM permalink
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Thanks ZK. I have owned QQQ for decades. Still do. I am actually pretty sure it was QQQQ when I bought it. It's heavily Amazon and Google and Apple I believe.

As far as troop's comment that 'bonds are not safe', I understand the risk. But the risk is mostly in someone else valuing the bond at lower than I purchased it, but if held to maturity I know what I'm getting. My 7 year bond I bought paying 3.25% will pay me $3,250 every year for 7 years and then the $100,000 back at the end of year 7. If I need to liquidate the bond after 3 years I could lose money if interest rates go up enough.



Actually depending on the bond you may or may not get your money back at the end. As interest rates rise there is going to be downward pressure on bond prices and the cost of financing goes up which in turn will lead to some bankruptcies.

My advice since in reality you are making less than 1% on those bonds (taxes and inflation) is to look at stocks like (using ticker symbols) GOOD (8.8% yield REIT) "O" (REIT 5% Yield) etc for higher yields and a more stable price control, reinvest dividends and compound your earnings far quicker (GOOD at 100k investment would return $695 the first month in dividends)

if you reinvested dividends for 7 years your monthly income in month 84 (of your 7 year bond) would be $1272.40 and the stock assuming no price increase would be at roughly 181k http://www.dividend-calculator.com/monthly.php?yield=8.5&yieldgrowth=0&shares=5555&price=18&years=7&do=Calculate
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May 15th, 2018 at 7:16:03 AM permalink
In 28 days Canada is likely to approve recreational cannabis use for the entire country. (It isn't 100% sure, but pretty close to it).

If you've been considering getting into the "green rush" now's a good time to do so.

I got in a little over a year or ago and while I have a couple that are slightly under, (mostly due to a large sell off in January), I also have 7 that have 100% - 600% gains.
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May 15th, 2018 at 7:51:44 AM permalink
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In 28 days Canada is likely to approve recreational cannabis use for the entire country. (It isn't 100% sure, but pretty close to it).

If you've been considering getting into the "green rush" now's a good time to do so.

I got in a little over a year or ago and while I have a couple that are slightly under, (mostly due to a large sell off in January), I also have 7 that have 100% - 600% gains.



Yes, important vote in June. Great time to buy into the sector as a speculative play while the stocks are sold off. I have significant Holdings in Emerald and Aurora cannabis. Holding long term... but always take some profits after the first 100% return in stock and let the rest ride.
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May 15th, 2018 at 9:47:03 AM permalink
Hasn't pot been legal in Nova Scotia for years?
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May 15th, 2018 at 10:21:47 AM permalink
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Hasn't pot been legal in Nova Scotia for years?



Not according to https://novascotia.ca/cannabis/

However, medical cannabis has been legal throughout the entire country since 2001.
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July 18th, 2018 at 10:56:11 AM permalink
Up 47% from inception. Been steadily increasing bond holdings as interest rates rise. If I can lock in 3-4% seems prudent as I approach retirement. So volatility will decrease, as will potential for big gains... or big losses. Still over 80% in stocks though, so at risk....
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July 18th, 2018 at 1:04:19 PM permalink
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Up 47% from inception. Been steadily increasing bond holdings as interest rates rise. If I can lock in 3-4% seems prudent as I approach retirement. So volatility will decrease, as will potential for big gains... or big losses. Still over 80% in stocks though, so at risk....



47% return is excellent. When did you start?
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July 18th, 2018 at 4:34:31 PM permalink
last time I commented on this topic I said to get as much inter pipelines as you could and sleep nights with the 7% dividend.....still holds true today.


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July 18th, 2018 at 4:58:22 PM permalink
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Up 47% from inception. Been steadily increasing bond holdings as interest rates rise. If I can lock in 3-4% seems prudent as I approach retirement. So volatility will decrease, as will potential for big gains... or big losses. Still over 80% in stocks though, so at risk....


I would look at dividend/distribution paying equities vs. bonds. Lots of options paying 4-6% now and long histories of increasing payouts to share/unit holders. REITs are even given some tax preference in the latest tax bill....I like the pipeline space as mentioned although some of those have suspended dividends when the bottom fell out of energy....as long as the distribution continues, do you really care that much about valuation of your stock/REIT/MLP? These types of investments tend to ebb and flow in value, increasing as their dividends/distributions increase...best bet is to look at the historical payouts of these positions over the last 15-20 years (e.g. before and after the debacle of 2009) and see if they continued to cut those quarterly checks you can live on during those different market conditions.
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July 19th, 2018 at 9:19:58 AM permalink
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last time I commented on this topic I said to get as much inter pipelines as you could and sleep nights with the 7% dividend.....still holds true today.

ipl.to


um...
-0.70 (-2.78%) since 07/19/17

im assuming the -2.78% doesn't include the dividends?
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August 27th, 2018 at 12:15:31 PM permalink
Finally broke the up 50% mark. This portfolio now nearly 25% in bonds, so will lag the market up, but also lag on it's next downward move.

Funny how the talking heads credit a Trump trade deal with Mexico as the impetus for the latest up tick. I do fear the mid term elections, and likely Democrat controlled House. If you think there is gridlock now with the minority Dems doing their darndest to block any and all Trump plans, just imagine what will happen when the Dems actually control a House!

By the way, my 'up 50%' does include dividends, as this is in a retirement account so no money leaves the account.
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August 27th, 2018 at 1:54:25 PM permalink
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...<SNIP>,,, This portfolio now nearly 25% in bonds, so will lag the market up, but also lag on it's next downward move. ...<SNIP>...

Unless that "downward move" is one that is also accompanied by a sharp rise in interest rates, which would induce a bear market in long bonds. (But I'd mostly tend to agree with the expectation embedded in that quoted statement, usually, in most usual equity market corrections, most of the time. Just saying: "But.")
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August 27th, 2018 at 2:36:40 PM permalink
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Unless that "downward move" is one that is also accompanied by a sharp rise in interest rates, which would induce a bear market in long bonds. (But I'd mostly tend to agree with the expectation embedded in that quoted statement, usually, in most usual equity market corrections, most of the time. Just saying: "But.")



You are technically correct. But I look at my bond holdings a little differently. Say I have $1,000,000 in bonds with an average payout of 3.5%. I just know I'll be getting $35k a year, regardless of what Wall Street values my bonds at. If interest rates rise, my $1,000,000 in bonds would be worth less if I have to liquidate them, but I'd still be getting the same $35k no matter what the supposed value of the bonds is. I'm not a bond trader. I'm a bond holder.
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August 27th, 2018 at 2:51:22 PM permalink
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You are technically correct. But I look at my bond holdings a little differently. Say I have $1,000,000 in bonds with an average payout of 3.5%. I just know I'll be getting $35k a year, regardless of what Wall Street values my bonds at. If interest rates rise, my $1,000,000 in bonds would be worth less if I have to liquidate them, but I'd still be getting the same $35k no matter what the supposed value of the bonds is. I'm not a bond trader. I'm a bond holder.



For the pitiful yields you are getting the risk in devaluation iN an economy that has to raise rates I just dont get your logic.

I would look at ticker GOOD. more than stable 8% yield. REIT triple net leases with fortune 500 companies and almost 100% occupancy

Woukd also look at ticker STOR as well
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August 27th, 2018 at 3:11:45 PM permalink
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For the pitiful yields you are getting the risk in devaluation iN an economy that has to raise rates I just dont get your logic.

I would look at ticker GOOD. more than stable 8% yield. REIT triple net leases with fortune 500 companies and almost 100% occupancy

Woukd also look at ticker STOR as well



I do have a good deal of $$ in REIT's. O, NNN are my top 2. I have recently started putting some money in private equity REITs, not publicly traded. With the claims I am a tad worried that I may be having my money "Madoffed". But I have a few friends that have been with this company for a few years and so far have done ok. Only around 1% of my portfolio so I am gambling.....
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August 27th, 2018 at 3:40:35 PM permalink
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I do have a good deal of $$ in REIT's. O, NNN are my top 2. I have recently started putting some money in private equity REITs, not publicly traded. With the claims I am a tad worried that I may be having my money "Madoffed". But I have a few friends that have been with this company for a few years and so far have done ok. Only around 1% of my portfolio so I am gambling.....



I have O as well as LTC and a few others. Warren buffet just bought into STOR.

I have been considering the price equities reit as well but like you will be a small part of my portfolio.

I am actually in the process of buying a gas station and once I get closed on it I want to try and take it public and start adding gas stations to the company. This thing profits about 250k a year and just reinvest profits as available into other gas stations. If I can get to 10 stations it would make for a nice little company that rewarded early shareholders.

(please let me be very very clear this is not a solicitation of funds etc just discussing an investment )
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August 27th, 2018 at 3:46:15 PM permalink
I would be a seller of gas stations and electric utilities, lots of disruption in both of those spaces coming in the long term IMHO...I have owned STOR for a while and like some other REITS as well...it will be interesting to see how they perform in a rising interest rate environment that we are entering.
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August 27th, 2018 at 3:49:33 PM permalink
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I would be a seller of gas stations and electric utilities, lots of disruption in both of those spaces coming in the long term IMHO...I have owned STOR for a while and like some other REITS as well...it will be interesting to see how they perform in a rising interest rate environment that we are entering.



Not sure of disruptions in the gas station markets. I get utilities but not gas stations. That said I do own 445 shares of AEP with reinvesting dividends
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August 27th, 2018 at 8:33:25 PM permalink
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I would be a seller of gas stations and electric utilities, lots of disruption in both of those spaces coming in the long term IMHO...I have owned STOR for a while and like some other REITS as well...it will be interesting to see how they perform in a rising interest rate environment that we are entering.

wait.. whats going on with electric utils?
(my retired mom owns $300k worth of Con Ed though employee stock purchase. she never sold)
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August 28th, 2018 at 5:41:30 AM permalink
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wait.. whats going on with electric utils?
(my retired mom owns $300k worth of Con Ed though employee stock purchase. she never sold)



I see two risks in utilities. Not sure of 100x odds thoughts.

1. Attack on electric grid would cause a drop in value because of a loss of confidence in them and upgrades additional security expenses etc

2. A Democrat being trump in 2020 would be disastrous because we would go back to Obama era regulations on power companies etc.

Gas stations and oil companies in the short term will be more immune from this. Big reason is the limited range for electric cars and the fact there is a whole infrastructure that will have to be built to support it
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When I was a state trooper some smart trooper along the way well before I was hired started an "Investment Club"

It started before I was hired by years but was open to new hires. The rule was (this is 1993) you put in $25 a pay period. Each time you invested you got a share or a percentage of a share based on current market value of the portfolio. (initial shares to start were sold at $5 each they said) They divided number of shares from previous meeting by market value and come up with a "share price". You were not allowed to withdraw until you left your job or retired at which point your shares were "sold" and you were given a nice retirement check so to speak if you started when you were hired (20 year retirement) This thing was legit with a corporation and tax id number etc.

You were assigned to a group when you joined and each group had to come back to the big group every two weeks with a stock you thought would be a good investment and almost do a presentation (people attended by phone) . So each two weeks there was 10 stocks brought to the groups attention and a vote was made on which to invest the funds into from contributions. If a super majority (7 of 10 groups) could not be had then there was a rotation of groups and whoever's groups turn it was picked the stock or had the option to roll over to the next pay period and combine the funds(this allowed each group to pick twice a year)
There was some good picks over the years. I retired in 2015 after 22 years. Over that time a few groups got together and colluded to spoil the majority for several pay periods in a row and had the money rolling over. When the 5th group picked they went all in on tesla with 12.5k or so at $25 a share (roughly may have been a little more or little less)

Facebook had similar collusion but had it was done by a larger group 7 of the 10 and they put in 17k+. Apple was bought at about 1.50 a share. it was the minimum because nobody wanted to go along with it so the group used its turn.

There were some duds as well one group picked a penny stock CMKX which may be one of the largest penny stock scams ever. We lost our roughly 2500 bucks when the SEC axed trading. Enron was owned but the group sold it before it completely collapsed though at a big loss and a few other losers. There were a couple other shots at penny stocks as well that missed and one that hit going from about 5 cents to a couple bucks. Don't remember the name but we sold it.

I put in 14.3 over 22 years and walked away with a little over 200k. I was lucky in the fact that Apple ran like crazy and had 3 splits. Tesla ran like crazy. Facebook made nice gains as well. I wish I was still involved because there was such a diverse group of minds and age groups that things like Apple got brought up by the younger groups that the older guys would have never invested in yet their was stability in the portfolio from the older guys picks such as utilities, oil and gas (which did well) and other bluechip stocks. As online brokerages etc came along they started reinvesting dividends.
Each month all the stocks were reviewed to see if anything needed to be sold and in other situations stocks could be sold if everyone agreed over the phone if situations like Enron happened.
Only real rules we had was a stock could not be bought a 2nd time if still owned without unanimous consent (which led to a few collusions so larger blocks could be bought (tesla)) which forced diversity, and no leaving until you retired or quit. You were in until the end and had to contribute or you lost your money already invested. This forced you to leave the money in for the reward at the end. If you were killed in the line of duty everyone lost so to speak because your spouse got 10% of the total portfolio which happened twice while I was in. The logic in the quit/retire thing also was it added to stability of the portfolio so people could be paid when they left so it could be planned for to liquidate some stocks if needed.

Last I heard they had about 200 people in now and had raised it to $50 a paycheck

Just to be clear this is not me trying to start an investment club at WOV though if someone (other than me) did I would participate.


Anyway I just thought I would share this because of the discussion of stocks everyone was suggesting here and how diverse they are. As someone who loves the stock market I have enjoyed reading and following this thread though it is a slow.
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December 5th, 2018 at 6:02:33 AM permalink
Did not do particularly well yesterday! But still up 40% from inception. Was up a max of 50%, so has fallen 7% since the peak. (Yes, math is correct!)

Of note, GLXZ is up around 600% from when I bought it. Unfortunately I only bought a small stake in it....
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December 6th, 2018 at 5:19:49 AM permalink
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Did not do particularly well yesterday! But still up 40% from inception. Was up a max of 50%, so has fallen 7% since the peak. (Yes, math is correct!)

Of note, GLXZ is up around 600% from when I bought it. Unfortunately I only bought a small stake in it....



I have been putting some cash recently into seed stage and 2nd rounds of funding type companies. Trying to build a nice portfolio of them. Picked up some drug, and medical stuff, tech stuff (apps like uber but other industries) etc maybe I will hit a homerun with one. 500-1k investments. Couple a little higher but they are further along
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December 6th, 2018 at 5:39:04 AM permalink
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I have been putting some cash recently into seed stage and 2nd rounds of funding type companies. Trying to build a nice portfolio of them. Picked up some drug, and medical stuff, tech stuff (apps like uber but other industries) etc maybe I will hit a homerun with one. 500-1k investments. Couple a little higher but they are further along


How are you making these investments? Generally pre-IPO/private equity investing is limited to venture capital firms and/or rich people (e.g. "accredited investors") investing tens of thousands minimum. I'm guessing you are using some app out there that has made this available to the plebes at low investment levels.
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December 6th, 2018 at 6:11:14 AM permalink
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How are you making these investments? Generally pre-IPO/private equity investing is limited to venture capital firms and/or rich people (e.g. "accredited investors") investing tens of thousands minimum. I'm guessing you are using some app out there that has made this available to the plebes at low investment levels.



So I actually do meet the standard for an accredited investor. that being said I refuse to throw 25-50k into something speculative like that.

I use a few sites like wefunder.com
Here is the most recent company I invested in

https://wefunder.com/circlemedical

There are a few others out there
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December 6th, 2018 at 6:15:10 AM permalink
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How are you making these investments? Generally pre-IPO/private equity investing is limited to venture capital firms and/or rich people (e.g. "accredited investors") investing tens of thousands minimum. I'm guessing you are using some app out there that has made this available to the plebes at low investment levels.



So I actually do meet the standard for an accredited investor. that being said I refuse to throw 25-50k into something speculative like that.

I use a few sites like wefunder.com
Here is the most recent company I invested in

https://wefunder.com/circlemedical

There are a few others out there


Cool, thanks. I was considering an investment in a marijuana company through a similar platform (can't remember the name of the platform, or the company, at ALL right now). Decided against it. Good luck with your investments. I stick to index funds these days. No home runs, but consistent compounded growth over time.
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December 7th, 2018 at 11:14:48 AM permalink
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How are you making these investments? Generally pre-IPO/private equity investing is limited to venture capital firms and/or rich people (e.g. "accredited investors") investing tens of thousands minimum. I'm guessing you are using some app out there that has made this available to the plebes at low investment levels.



So I actually do meet the standard for an accredited investor. that being said I refuse to throw 25-50k into something speculative like that.

I use a few sites like wefunder.com
Here is the most recent company I invested in

https://wefunder.com/circlemedical

There are a few others out there


Cool, thanks. I was considering an investment in a marijuana company through a similar platform (can't remember the name of the platform, or the company, at ALL right now). Decided against it. Good luck with your investments. I stick to index funds these days. No home runs, but consistent compounded growth over time.



I do all my own stuff I own mutual funds, but mostly stocks I pick and monitor. I prefer nice dividend stocks paying 6% or more like CLDT, GOOD etc and reinvest dividends but in the last little bit I have been throwing 500-1k at some of these type investments. Has to be something I would buy or use or see a real market for. The one above I threw money at because the medical stuff is damn near a cant miss market
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December 7th, 2018 at 11:17:48 AM permalink
I will say this AcesAndEights if one of you guys want to run it I would be down to put a little money down each week/month and look at these type investments as long as it was properly formed through a corporation etc to make it legal and not just good old boys

Get 20 guys chipping in 100 a month could be 2 1k or 4 $500 investments a month
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February 15th, 2019 at 6:58:50 AM permalink
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Did not do particularly well yesterday! But still up 40% from inception. Was up a max of 50%, so has fallen 7% since the peak. (Yes, math is correct!)

Of note, GLXZ is up around 600% from when I bought it. Unfortunately I only bought a small stake in it....



With the 'crash' I am now up 1% from the time of this post Dec 6, 2018. But still lagging around 6% from its peak. GLXZ hovering around 2. Now up around 800% from purchase. Sold a small fraction at 2.02.

General concept. Buy lots of stocks. Hold.
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February 15th, 2019 at 12:02:28 PM permalink
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I will say this AcesAndEights if one of you guys want to run it I would be down to put a little money down each week/month and look at these type investments as long as it was properly formed through a corporation etc to make it legal and not just good old boys

Get 20 guys chipping in 100 a month could be 2 1k or 4 $500 investments a month

No one ever got this going? I would be interested as well.
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February 15th, 2019 at 12:23:14 PM permalink
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No one ever got this going? I would be interested as well.



Whoa! This type of investing* smacks of Madoff/Ponzi risk - just 'potentially', of course many such operations are legitimate. If you want to get an idea how many aren't, just watch "american greed" once in a while on CNBC. I would seem there are so many scam operations out there that the show never runs out of yet another one to feature. "Loosely organized" is just exactly the thing here that puts an investor at risk.

The thing is, if you want to buy stocks and bonds, you don't need to hook up with anything like this. Just go online or call the real deal, someplace like Vanguard, Fidelity, T. Rowe Price, E-trade, the list goes on and on. It has never been easier or cheaper and the risk of getting scammed [scammed outright anyway] dwindles off to near zero.

*I have no opinion about the suitability of troopscott himself to run such a thing
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February 15th, 2019 at 12:34:55 PM permalink
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No one ever got this going? I would be interested as well.

What ever happened to Troopscott?
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February 15th, 2019 at 3:34:36 PM permalink
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What ever happened to Troopscott?

Why are you asking me? (-;
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February 15th, 2019 at 3:46:11 PM permalink
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What ever happened to Troopscott?



He’s busy recruiting people to enter his college bowl game pool
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Now at its all time high of up 52% from inception. Disney run up put it over the top.
2 have more than tripled WWE, MA
5 have more than doubled AAPL,, FB, CSCO, COST, ILMN

And then there is NTEK.....
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