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Quote: rxwineThree years ago?
They sure as hell never would have
done it under Obama. 3 years ago
it was 2016, Obama's last year.
If Trump hadn't turned the economy
around, they never would have
done it, car sales would have been
too low..
Cohen and his testimony tomorrow.
I was surprised and pleased, he's
no Trump lover. He said how can
anyone believe a word he says
after he already been convicted
of lying to the same committee.
Quote: EvenBobWow, big Lib Jeraldo just trashed
Cohen and his testimony tomorrow.
Jeez. You’re really working overtime trying to push your narrative tonight.
Maybe you see the breaking news about what Cohen is going to testify to tomorrow. Hehehe
And I have no idea if Geraldo is a “big lib,” but he’s certainly always been a huge ass-kisser to Donald. He was on the Celebrity Apprentice for Christ sakes.
Quote: EvenBobWow, big Lib Jeraldo just trashed
Cohen and his testimony tomorrow.
I was surprised and pleased, he's
no Trump lover. He said how can
anyone believe a word he says
after he already been convicted
of lying to the same committee.
More propaganda. Geraldo as a Big Lib? Excuse me while I wipe the spit off my screen.
There.
Nope, still laughing.
Okay.
Good grief, EB. Has the panic set in or something?
Quote: terapinedHe's wrong a lot if you check the link
I just thought its funny how he has no vision and bet against the most successful car company on the planet
He's a clown
Yet the example you gave was him being wrong about Prius and not climate change. That's like claiming to be the best AP in the world and an example of that is because you like Chipotle.
Quote: beachbumbabsMore propaganda. Geraldo as a Big Lib?
He trashes Trump all the time.
Does that not make him a Lib.
I'm confused.
Quote: EvenBobHe trashes Trump all the time.
Does that not make him a Lib.
I'm confused.
No, it makes him sane.
win, didn't think he'd win, wanted
nothing to do with winning. Yet
Trump is the guy who wanted to
win so badly, according to the Left,
that he colluded with the Russian's
to make sure he won.
Somebody is lying.
Quote: EvenBob
Does that not make him a Lib.
I'm confused.
No, it makes him an American. I can see why you are confused by that.
Quote: SteverinosNo, it makes him an American. I can see why you are confused by that.
ROTFL
EB probably thinks Ann Coulter is a lib the way she threw Trump under the bus saying our national emergency is that Trump is an idiot
Quote: terapinedROTFL
EB probably thinks Ann Coulter is a lib
Coulter is a pushing sixty right wing nut
job who has to stay in the news to sell
books. If that means dumping on Trump,
she's happy to do it. Libs read her books
too, ya know.
was on FOX. Then she went to CNN and
lost her mind.
During the Covington Kid fiasco, she
went crazy with her trashing of him.
When it came out that he the hero
of the situation, she quit tweeting
for a month because of the viscous
attacks on her.
She's back now making all kinds of
excuses for the stuff she said about
the kid. It's not who she really is, it's
not what her faith teaches her to do.
That's correct. It's the Trump Derangement
Syndrome you have to adopt on those
networks. She sees that and is sorry for
it. The troops are beginning to crack, it
was inevitable.
Quote: EvenBobHe trashes Trump all the time.
Does that not make him a Lib.
I'm confused.
It does not. I point out Trump's foibles all the time and I can assure you my overall political tendencies are Conservative, with a few exceptions. You have said it a hundred times (best estimate) that many people are happy Trump is President just because HRC isn't, not because they like Trump.
is a pretty big deal. Both Trump's sons have
tweeted, 'is this a joke'? Everybody who was
there at the start remembers Cohen lobbying
anyone who would listen that he wanted
Chief of Staff or some other high ranking
post in the WH. He wouldn't shut up about
it.
It's even on page 24 of his sentencing report
from the court, he desperately wanted a WH
job. When it didn't happen, it was payback
time. This serial convicted liar is who the Dems
are hanging their hopes on?
Perfect..
Quote: EvenBob
It's even on page 24 of his sentencing report
from the court, he desperately wanted a WH
job. When it didn't happen, it was payback
time. This serial convicted liar is who the Dems
are hanging their hopes on?
Perfect..
Not the smartest thing in the world to do, make testimony like that right before going to the can.
Snitches get stitches.
Quote: EvenBobCohen lying about never wanting a WH job
is a pretty big deal. Both Trump's sons have
tweeted, 'is this a joke'? Everybody who was
there at the start remembers Cohen lobbying
anyone who would listen that he wanted
Chief of Staff or some other high ranking
post in the WH. He wouldn't shut up about
it.
It's even on page 24 of his sentencing report
from the court, he desperately wanted a WH
job. When it didn't happen, it was payback
time. This serial convicted liar is who the Dems
are hanging their hopes on?
Perfect..
So you're saying that's his motive for flipping on Trump? Correct me if I'm wrong, please, but didn't he continue to protect and lie for Trump after he got snubbed for a job?
We're not "hanging our hopes" on Cohen. We're hanging our hopes on truth and reality setting us free. And there are two possible truths and realities:
1) Trump didn't know anything about anything. He didn't know Manafort was a crook. He didn't know about Gates. He didn't know about Papa Georgio. He didn't know about any of this stuff. He didn't know about domestic violence by Rob Porter. He didn't know about the Trump Tower meeting. He didn't know about the hush money payments. He didn't know anything about anything. The only conclusion in this reality? Trump is incompetent.
or
2) Trump surrounds himself with crooks and liars because he himself is a crook and a liar. Birds of a feather.
Pick one of these realities and make the case that either one of them is good for the country you claim to love so damn much.
These hearings are only a shadow of what's going on behind the scenes with implicating Trump. The hard evidence is there. Trump is in a fetal position at night with a pacifier in his mouth over in Vietnam.
Quote: rxwineTrump is in a fetal position at night with a pacifier in his mouth over in Vietnam.
With as many leaks as this White House has, I think we would have heard about that by now!
Quote: Steverinosbut didn't he continue to protect and lie for Trump after he got snubbed for a job?
He was Trump's paid attorney, he had
no choice, or lose his law license. Which
he did lose this week, he was disbarred.
Who knows what he really did, he seems
to lie about everything. We'll find out
how many times he lied to congress
again today. We know of one for sure,
and maybe two.
The real fun is tomorrow when bug
eyed Adam Schiff grills Cohen, who
admitted that Schiff has discussed
with him what he's going to say.
Quote: rxwine
These hearings are only a shadow of what's going on behind the scenes with implicating Trump.
These hearings are only a shadow
of what's going on behind the scenes
with Libs desperately seeking any
straw they can find to hurl at Trump,
fueled by a genuine fear they've
already lost the 2020 election because
they have nobody who can beat him.
if she was watching the hearing. She
said she had it on but was busy
doing something else. She said
"Cohen has a real credibility problem'.
Implying why bother listening, he's
well known to lie about everything.
Quote: RonCWith as many leaks as this White House has, I think we would have heard about that by now!
We are hearing about it. Trump has been beside himself over there all week. He had a whole cow this morning based on Cohen's opening statement. Source is the media pool over there with him.
Trump is a stupid fool
He trusts Kim regarding Otto Warmbier
WTF, boy am I disgusted with our President. What a chump
Of course Kim knew. This does not happen without his direct approval
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-says-he-believes-kim-jong-un-didnt-know-about-otto-warmbier/ar-BBUbPHU?ocid=spartanntp
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-kim-jong-un-otto-warmbier_n_5c779987e4b0d3a48b569c03
Dang, he was so close to finally clinching that Nobel Prize!!
Quote: ams288North Korea nuclear summit ends abruptly with no deal
Dang, he was so close to finally clinching that Nobel Prize!!
Kim got what he wanted
The high level status of meeting directly with a US president twice
Kim must be giddy
He even got a pass from Trump on Warmbier
I am so disgusted right now. Kim is a punk that needs to be treated as a punk
I am just shocked and blown away what a chump Trump has become regarding Kim, Putin and the Saudi's. They lie, Trump, eats it up. DISGUSTING
Quote: terapined
Kim got what he wanted
He got nothing of what he wanted. He got
embarrassed on the world stage. He thought
Trump would cave to his demands, like
Obama would have done.
This exact same thing happened in 1986 in
Iceland, when Reagan met with Gorbachev.
Gorby demanded Reagan get rid of his
Star Wars plan and Reagan said nope, and
walked out on the meeting.
The press had a meltdown, Reagan had just
started WW 3 they said. Movie stars were
having mental breakdowns on the Donahue
show.
Three years later, the Soviet Union fell apart.
All because we had a strong leader who held
his ground and wouldn't cave. Just like Trump
is doing now. Kim embarrassed himself and
made the world see him as a fool yesterday.
Now he has to save face, because all his
leverage is gone.
Quote: EvenBobHe got nothing of what he wanted.
Trump the chump does not blame Kim for Warmbier
Weakest President ever
Kim is giddy, Trump bent his knee for Kim
Quote: EvenBobHe got nothing of what he wanted. He got
embarrassed on the world stage. He thought
Trump would cave to his demands, like
Obama would have done.
This exact same thing happened in 1986 in
Iceland, when Reagan met with Gorbachev.
Gorby demanded Reagan get rid of his
Star Wars plan and Reagan said nope, and
walked out on the meeting.
The press had a meltdown, Reagan had just
started WW 3 they said. Movie stars were
having mental breakdowns on the Donahue
show.
Three years later, the Soviet Union fell apart.
All because we had a strong leader who held
his ground and wouldn't cave. Just like Trump
is doing now. Kim embarrassed himself and
made the world see him as a fool yesterday.
Now he has to save face, because all his
leverage is gone.
Obama wouldn't even meet with Kim, let alone cave to him. Trump is the one who claimed he could make a deal and left empty-handed, after going there at great expense.
Quote: beachbumbabsObama wouldn't even meet with Kim, let alone cave to him. Trump is the one who claimed he could make a deal and left empty-handed, after going there at great expense.
Obama was too busy making a bad deal with Iran to meet with Kim I guess.
Quote: AZDuffmanObama was too busy making a bad deal with Iran
Quote: AZDuffmanObama was too busy making a bad deal with Iran to meet with Kim I guess.
Bad deal or not, its complicated
but
There is no doubt Trump totally wimped out giving Kim a pass on Warmbier
No doubt Trump got played by Kim
I am just shocked Trump would show total weakness
Its treason
I thought the nuke deal Obama cut with Iran was the pinnacle of his administration. Iran stopped their centrifuge program, [which only spun material up to 20%, medical grade] which was inspected and verified by all 17 of our security agency's.Quote: AZDuffmanObama was too busy making a bad deal with Iran to meet with Kim I guess.
The fact that Trump wasn't as willing to go to war with Iran, was the single reason that made him the preferable candidate IMO.
If HRC had won, we would already be engaged in yet another foreign war, with people that are no threat to us.
What does happen with Iran, as has happened with Russia is, their military's are defensive which has forced Russia to invent hypersonic nuclear missiles for which we have no defense.
We have harassed Iran to the point, that they have developed the technology [in no small part due to our, and Israels assault by Stuxnet] advanced enough, that recently they were able to hack our entire drone program.
Last week Iran hacked the controls of several drones, while in flight over Syria at the same time and force landed them.
Our entire drone program is near worthless now that Iran can take away flight/telemetry controls in flight of our most advanced drones. Mega billions wasted. China and Russia as well as Iran have our best tech.
Keep pushing and shoving and bullying, and some day a dog will bite.
Quote: beachbumbabsTrump is the one who claimed he could make a deal and left empty-handed,
The deal was made before they left.
Kim had agreed to the deal. They
were there to sign papers and act
diplomatic. No world leader goes
to another country with all this
fanfare unless they know the deal
is done.
China got to Kim and told him he
could change the deal and Trump
would go along with it because
he's desperate. Nothing could be
farther than the truth. Trump has
played these long deal games all
his life. He'll get what he wants
or N Korea can pound sand forever.
Why do people think Trump spent
12 hours on a plane, and Kim 3 days
on a train, if the deal wasn't already
done. The paperwork for this isn't
written on the back of a napkin, it
took months to draw up and write.
You are missing the big picture entirely. Who is Warmbier ? What is he, God? Who has the right to go into foreign country's and vandalize?Quote: terapinedBad deal or not, its complicated
but
There is no doubt Trump totally wimped out giving Kim a pass on Warmbier
No doubt Trump got played by Kim
I am just shocked Trump would show total weakness
Its treason
Try going to Singapore and spray painting walls, or smoking a doobie. https://www.nytimes.com/1994/06/27/us/teen-ager-caned-in-singapore-tells-of-the-blood-and-the-scars.html
Do you ever watch the show "Locked up Abroad"? Americans think it's ok to use dope and smuggle in other country's, and they're put in prison all around the globe. You can't go around making up your own rules. The world doesn't work that way. Do you think being in prison in Bangledesh is any kinder?
I didn't wish Warmbier any ill will, but how stupid can a person be to go into NK and think you can rip posters down? We are lucky he's out of our gene pool.
Go to China and try pushing xtianity, or Islam. They will lock you up tight. The meeting between Trump and Kim has world ramifications, much larger than any one idiot's life.
Quote: terapined
There is no doubt Trump totally wimped out giving Kim a pass on Warmbier
Trump absolves Kim Jong Un of responsibility for Otto Warmbier’s death
“He tells me that he didn’t know about it and I will take him at his word.”
What was he supposed to do, yell
liar liar pants on fire? Trump did
the right thing at the right time.
Trump didn't get "nothing". I saw a clip of him saying he got what he wanted, which was for Kim to quit firing off nukes. That is a big, big win, for the planet. So Kim tears down most of his nuke bomb facility's, and quits test exploding them. Bfd if he keeps a few in hiding, bfd. If I was Kim, I wouldn't want to give up the one thing that stops him from going the route Khadaffi did either.Quote: EvenBobThe deal was made before they left.
Kim had agreed to the deal. They
were there to sign papers and act
diplomatic. No world leader goes
to another country with all this
fanfare unless they know the deal
is done.
China got to Kim and told him he
could change the deal and Trump
would go along with it because
he's desperate. Nothing could be
farther than the truth. Trump has
played these long deal games all
his life. He'll get what he wants
or N Korea can pound sand forever.
Why do people think Trump spent
12 hours on a plane, and Kim 3 days
on a train, if the deal wasn't already
done. The paperwork for this isn't
written on the back of a napkin, it
took months to draw up and write.
Right now, this standoff, is fine. So what, as long as he isn't mass producing more, or firing them toward our allies. Good for Kim, good for DJT, good for humanity. It could be better, but it's come a long long ways in two years. Bravo Mr. Trump.
And Kim didn't bring up Guantanamo where the USA has legalized torture.Quote: EvenBobTrump absolves Kim Jong Un of responsibility for Otto Warmbier’s death
“He tells me that he didn’t know about it and I will take him at his word.”
What was he supposed to do, yell
liar liar pants on fire? Trump did
the right thing at the right time.
If they get caught up in the minutia, nothing will ever get done.
Quote: petroglyphIt could be better, but it's come a long long ways in two years. Bravo Mr. Trump.
It part of the deal making. Kim tested
Trump and he passed with flying colors.
Today Kim is saying, oh well, it was
worth a try. Kim knows the nukes he
has are for show only. We have more
fire power on one submarine than he
has in the whole country.
Kim very much wants what S Korea has,
and he wants it while he's young enough
to enjoy it. He'll make the deal eventually.
Quote: EvenBobTrump absolves Kim Jong Un of responsibility for Otto Warmbier’s death
“He tells me that he didn’t know about it and I will take him at his word.”
What was he supposed to do, yell
liar liar pants on fire? Trump did
the right thing at the right time.
Trump wimped out
TDS
Trump defence syndrom
Even when Trump bows down to Kim, EB defends
Trump has no balls when it comes to NK
Will Trump now apologize for the Korean War lol
I don't think Kim does want what SK has. I think he is a psychopath who has every luxury he could personally want in private, girls, food, booze whatever. Basketball stars travel the world to hang out with him. He's worshiped [at least his people act like it] by masses of people. He fly's around the world, or takes train rides through China.Quote: EvenBobIt part of the deal making. Kim tested
Trump and he passed with flying colors.
Today Kim is saying, oh well, it was
worth a try. Kim knows the nukes he
has are for show only. We have more
fire power on one submarine than he
has in the whole country.
Kim very much wants what S Korea has,
and he wants it while he's young enough
to enjoy it. He'll make the deal eventually.
There is nothing he can personally gain, by making any agreements with the west. His people now, they would benefit hugely, but if they were to be westernized, Kim might someday face trial?
So I think Kim wants to leave it like it is, and especially for the US not to unload a sub or two on his little country, while he's banging a teenager and sipping champagne.
Cohen testified, that there would be
no 'there' there? I must have a crystal
ball.
CNN Commentators Lament that Michael Cohen Was a Flop for Trump Resistance
"There were a lot of Democrats today with bags of popcorn expecting to see the crumbling of the Trump presidency," said host Anderson Cooper.. In regard to Russia, in fact, you know, it was a disappointment to the anti-Trump forces, because what Cohen said, everybody thought, well, maybe Cohen can implicate him and make him tie him to this," said panelist David Gergen, a former presidential adviser who served four administrations. "And Cohen says, 'I have no direct knowledge. I have suspicions.' Well, that doesn't really add up to much."
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/cnn-commentators-lament-that-michael-cohen-was-a-flop-for-trump-resistance
When Trump was alone with Putin, they were going to switch him with a Russian Trump clone. After further consideration, Russia intelligence suggested just sending the real one back would be damaging enough.
Quote: EvenBobRemember what I said the day before
Cohen testified, that there would be
no 'there' there? I must have a crystal
ball.
CNN Commentators Lament that Michael Cohen Was a Flop for Trump Resistance
"There were a lot of Democrats today with bags of popcorn expecting to see the crumbling of the Trump presidency," said host Anderson Cooper.. In regard to Russia, in fact, you know, it was a disappointment to the anti-Trump forces, because what Cohen said, everybody thought, well, maybe Cohen can implicate him and make him tie him to this," said panelist David Gergen, a former presidential adviser who served four administrations. "And Cohen says, 'I have no direct knowledge. I have suspicions.' Well, that doesn't really add up to much."
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/cnn-commentators-lament-that-michael-cohen-was-a-flop-for-trump-resistance
Which only adds to his credibility on the other topics. He had a lot of chances to lie about Trump if he wanted to. He could've said that he hit Melania in the elevator and that the tap exists. He could've said that Trump directed him to lie to Congress. The fact that he didn' throw him under the bus at every possible opportunity only adds to his credibility on the other topics that he has direct knowledge of.
The hush money payment might be the single most consequential campaign donation in the history of our country, and it was illegal. I've maintained for a long time that the Mueller report will be disappointing to anybody that wants a smoking gun and impeachment based on its findings.
The SDoNY is where it's at.
Quote: Steverinos
The hush money payment might be the single most consequential campaign donation
Trump wrote a check to Cohen and that
was a campaign donation? You really have
to stop watching those Leftie networks.
Quote: EvenBobTrump wrote a check to Cohen and that
was a campaign donation? You really have
to stop watching those Leftie networks.
You mean the same network you keep referencing over the last couple days?
They paid women to keep quiet about their affairs with Trump, the guy "that loves the bible more than anyone" (sorry Pope Francis), in order to influence an election.
I'm sorry Rush hasn't made this clear to you.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6757251/Michael-Cohen-pitched-book-claiming-Trump-not-liar.html
Quote:President Donald Trump is not crazy. Nor is he dumb or paranoid. Certainly he is not in over his head. Is he a liar? Nope. And he is not addicted to TV either.
Who says so? None other than Michael Cohen, the president's former lawyer and fixer who eviscerated Trump in three days of testimony before Congressional committees this week.
Cohen's comments were in a book proposal that the jail-bound disbarred attorney was shopping around in the weeks before the FBI raided his offices last year. DailyMail.com has reviewed a copy of that proposal.
At the time he had nothing but good things to say about his boss who had entered the White House a little more than a year earlier.
Quote:He started his proposal with a list of unflattering barbs that have been thrown at Trump since he became Commander-in-Chief. 'Crazy'; 'Dumb'; 'Paranoid'; 'In Over His Head'; 'Liar'; 'Addicted to TV'; 'Hates the Media'.
'All of these things have been said about my longtime boss, Donald J. Trump,' Cohen added. 'None of it is true. Except maybe that last one – about the media. Trump does believe that reporters are out to get him, and for a very good reason. Many of them are.
Will the real Michael Cohen please stand up.
Quote: Fleaswatter
Will the real Michael Cohen please stand up.
yawn
If you are selling a book, you stretch the truth and maybe lie. Cmon Flea, you don't know that?
The real Michael Cohen was being totally honest yesterday before the House committee.
Quote: SteverinosThey paid women to keep quiet about their affairs with Trump, u.
You do realize it's not illegal to
pay off blackmailers, right?
Congress even has a special slush
fund to do just that, has millions
of taxpayer dollars in it.
Congress Paid Out $17 million in Settlements
According to a report from the Office of Compliance, more than $17 million has been paid out in settlements over a period of 20 years -- 1997 to 2017. ccording to the OOC data released Thursday, there have been 268 settlements.
https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/16/politics/settlements-congress-sexual-harassment/index.html
