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February 22nd, 2019 at 8:20:44 AM permalink
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Would your day not have started had you not read my post?



Mind bottling question. I hadn’t gotten past inner debating beach or mountains yet, bum day. What a country. It’s all butterfly effect from that point.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 8:34:40 AM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

Wonder why media is not mentioning Smollett's sister working for Obama?



Maybe because it isn't relevant?

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Over/Under on his suicide? You just know it's coming.



Nah... this isn't "life-ruining," and he's still fairly young. He'll just lay low for a few years until people forget about him and then he'll start working again. He's gay and black. He'll have a lot of people still in his corner if he plays his cards right.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 9:15:08 AM permalink
The owner of New England Patriots was arrested in a prostitution sting along with 25 other male customers.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 9:21:17 AM permalink
Hilde Lysiak is a young 12 yr old reporter
She is the youngest member of the national Society of Professional Journalists.
Hilde is a reporter and of Orange Street News, a Pennsylvania-based news website

The police do not like what this 12yr old reports and have threatened her with jail
WTF
What was not captured on video, Hilde wrote about in a news article published on her website. She wrote that Patterson stopped her and asked for her identification, and she identified herself by name and as a reporter.
“I don’t want to hear about any of that freedom of the press stuff,” Patterson reportedly told her.
Hilde later went up to Patterson with her camera recording, andasked him to confirm that he threatened to arrest her and explain why. Patterson did so.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona/2019/02/21/hilde-lysiak-orange-street-news-confronts-patagonia-marshal-threatened-arrest-arizona-mexico-border/2940151002/

https://www.yahoo.com/news/kid-reporter-confronts-officer-threatened-120328716.html

Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 9:21:19 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

The owner of New England Patriots was arrested in a prostitution sting along with 25 other male customers.



Legalize it, tax it, and regulate it. Problem solved. Probably generate a lot more revenue that way versus writing tickets and collecting fines for soliciting.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 9:31:57 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

The owner of New England Patriots was arrested in a prostitution sting along with 25 other male customers.



Paying her to leave when they are done.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 9:38:22 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Paying her to leave when they are done.



They leave for free. You think they'd waste time hanging out with a john just for fun after everything's over?

You gotta pay 'em just to show up in the first place!
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February 22nd, 2019 at 9:59:09 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

Legalize it, tax it, and regulate it. Problem solved. Probably generate a lot more revenue that way versus writing tickets and collecting fines for soliciting.



The Kraft thing is part of a human trafficking bust that went down over the past week or so. It was on the news when we were in Florida for the Daytona 500 and they said that there would be some headlines made once the names of those involved were released.

http://www.walb.com/2019/02/22/huge-florida-sex-trafficking-sting-results-nearly-arrests-warrants-with-more-still-coming/

I see what you are saying, but how do we keep the human trafficking thing out of it? Those victims span illegal immigrants, immigrants, and citizens...but people who aren't tracked well would be easier targets...though there are cases mentioned of fake Uber drivers picking up girls, too.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 10:04:26 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu


Nah... this isn't "life-ruining," and he's still fairly young. He'll just lay low for a few years until people forget about him and then he'll start working again.



Cause he's so mega talented? Not.. He's
pushing 40 and nobody ever heard of
him before this..
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February 22nd, 2019 at 10:04:35 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

They leave for free. You think they'd waste time hanging out with a john just for fun after everything's over?

You gotta pay 'em just to show up in the first place!



You are missing the point. A guy like that can pick up women easy. But afterward the women will want to keep hanging around. Who wants that? Better to pay and she is gone after.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 10:22:52 AM permalink
Posted last night on Reddit:



So apparently the crap on Reddit can be true, sometimes! I guess a broken clock is right twice a day...

And lets be clear, these weren't just "prostitutes." They were women being held against their will. Basically sex slaves.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 10:33:46 AM permalink
Odd that nobody on the Empire show
ever heard Smollet complain about
how much money he was making. He
never even asked for a raise.

His mom was once involved with the
radical Black Panthers in the 70s,
and is still best friends with Angela
Davis. Smollet was an outspoken
Trump hater.

His doing what he did was a hate crime,
and he's now covering his tracks to
avoid more jail time.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 10:35:45 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

You are missing the point. A guy like that can pick up women easy. But afterward the women will want to keep hanging around. Who wants that? Better to pay and she is gone after.



I don't have any experience with prostitution, but don't you pay before the act?

Quote: EvenBob

Cause he's so mega talented? Not.. He's
pushing 40 and nobody ever heard of
him before this..



YOU haven't heard of him. There's a million actors YOU haven't heard of that are successful. Smollett has been in the industry since the early 90's. He'll be fine.

Quote: RonC

The Kraft thing is part of a human trafficking bust that went down over the past week or so. It was on the news when we were in Florida for the Daytona 500 and they said that there would be some headlines made once the names of those involved were released.



Wow, I didn't know this part of the story. I was just commenting on prostitution in general. I don't how human trafficking could be kept out of it. That's a whole other can of worms!
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February 22nd, 2019 at 10:43:59 AM permalink
This is hilarious, Charles Barkley mocking
Smollet.

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February 22nd, 2019 at 10:57:09 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

Posted last night on Reddit:



So apparently the crap on Reddit can be true, sometimes! I guess a broken clock is right twice a day...

And lets be clear, these weren't just "prostitutes." They were women being held against their will. Basically sex slaves.



Exactly...this is what I was addressing regarding legalization...how do we get rid of this aspect of it?

Illegal immigrants, legal immigrants, and citizens can all be caught up in it, but the illegal immigrants add an extra layer of complication because they are not even known to be here...makes them easier to hide...
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February 22nd, 2019 at 11:02:13 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

I don't have any experience with prostitution, but don't you pay before the act?



You are still missing the point. Ask EB to explain.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 11:04:54 AM permalink
We're finally getting to the truth.
H-wood is saying what Smollet
did is Trump's fault. Trump drove
Smollet to act irrationally and
Jussie should be given the chance
to apologize and make it all go away.

Yeah, like that's going to happen.
lol
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February 22nd, 2019 at 11:05:45 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

You are still missing the point. Ask EB to explain.



I get the point you're making. I'm just asking a logistical question about prostitution in general.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 11:09:53 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

We're finally getting to the truth.
H-wood is saying what Smollet
did is Trump's fault. Trump drove
Smollet to act irrationally and
Jussie should be given the chance
to apologize and make it all go away.

Yeah, like that's going to happen.
lol



Blaming it on Trump is liberal logic. They might even add in that "he just wanted to draw attention to all the hate out there in the Trump era."
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February 22nd, 2019 at 11:11:08 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

We're finally getting to the truth.
H-wood is saying what Smollet
did is Trump's fault. Trump drove
Smollet to act irrationally and
Jussie should be given the chance
to apologize and make it all go away.

Yeah, like that's going to happen.
lol



You seem awfully obsessed with this Smollet guy, EB... lol....

If we're talking politically-based violence, though, I would think the bigger story is the Coastie arrested earlier this week on charges of domestic terrorism. Talk about fruitcakes!

Maybe he and Smollett will end up in the same cell and they can hash it out that way.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 11:12:00 AM permalink
Now Kraft has 7 rings, 6 superbowl and one prostitution.

What? Jus tryin to have a little fun.

Illegals, doing the work Americans won't do. ba-da-bum

Nobody gave a hoot last week when the king of pedo rings was loose in Fla.

"Breaking news" man pays for sex. Fifteen country's where prostitution is legal : https://www.scoopwhoop.com/inothernews/countries-with-legal-prostitution/#.q6wu2zo9d
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February 22nd, 2019 at 11:12:44 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

If we're talking politically-based violence, though, I would think the bigger story is the Coastie arrested earlier this week on charges of domestic terrorism. Talk about fruitcakes!



Shhh.... the righties are too busy pretending that story doesn’t exist.

Look at how desperately EB keeps trying to keep everyone talking about Smollet over the last couple of pages. It’s kind of funny.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 11:15:39 AM permalink
Well, speaking of sex trafficking, the Epstein saga is getting juicier, and R. Kelly was just charged with sexually abusing a child.

Sick bastards, the lot of 'em.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 11:36:44 AM permalink
Looks like the killing is getting started right on time in Venezuela https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-22/1-dead-15-injured-venezuelan-soldiers-open-fire-civilians-near-brazil-border-wapo
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February 22nd, 2019 at 11:39:29 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

You seem awfully obsessed with this Smollet guy, EB... lol....



Turned on the TV or radio the last
2 days? You think I'm the one
obsessed? This story has everything.
Lying Trump hating Libs, a media
that's almost suicidal that it wasn't
true. It's a great day.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 11:42:57 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

Shhh.... the righties are too busy pretending that story doesn’t exist.

Look at how desperately EB keeps trying to keep everyone talking about Smollet over the last couple of pages. It’s kind of funny.



If I am one of your "righties", please know that I am open to full discussion of this case as well as the Smollet case.

Both of them are nuts. One of them is more dangerous than the other...but neither is Trump's fault. I'm betting Smollet and the bad Lt were both unstable for periods beginning before Trump was elected.

Even if they both went nuts after he was elected it is still not Trump's fault.

Smollet does not deserve to be incarcerated with the bad Lt. That guy should end up in Super Max. Smollet should end up doing fairly easy time...if any time is "easy"...

(if guilty...all are presumed innocent until they confess or are found guilty)
Last edited by: RonC on Feb 22, 2019
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February 22nd, 2019 at 11:48:59 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

Shhh.... the righties are too busy pretending that story doesn’t exist.

Look at how desperately EB keeps trying to keep everyone talking about Smollet over the last couple of pages. It’s kind of funny.



Just like the lefties pretending the following story does not exist:

Conservative activist assaulted at UC-Berkeley campus during recruitment drive

https://www.foxnews.com/us/conservative-activist-assaulted-at-uc-berkeley-campus-during-recruitment-drive

and for those lefties that are too scared to click on a Fox link:

https://www.newsweek.com/conservative-student-assaulted-uc-berkeley-while-recruiting-other-1340057
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February 22nd, 2019 at 11:53:38 AM permalink
Anybody see the stories all over the
media about tax refunds being less
under the Trump tax cuts?

What they don't tell you is that's
because the IRS adjusted how
much is taken out of your check
every week and it's been less
than it was. So of course your
refund will be less.

They leave that tidbit out of
their stories, though. lol
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February 22nd, 2019 at 11:54:20 AM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

Now Kraft has 7 rings, 6 superbowl and one prostitution.



Prostitution might be legal in more places if they mostly didn't just arrest the prostitutes most of the time.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 12:13:28 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

They leave that tidbit out of
their stories, though. lol


Not in the stories I've seen. They've all cited the withholding tables being adjusted as the reason for smaller refunds.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 12:19:18 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Prostitution might be legal in more places if they mostly didn't just arrest the prostitutes most of the time.



Trying to be Yogi Berra or something?
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February 22nd, 2019 at 12:28:16 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Prostitution might be legal in more places if they mostly didn't just arrest the prostitutes most of the time.

IIANM, in both Ore. and Ak., if a john is caught even talking to a hooker, the vehicle is confiscated.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 12:37:17 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Trying to be Yogi Berra or something?



Yeah, that was kind of an odd sentence.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 12:54:15 PM permalink
Quote: Fleaswatter

Just like the lefties pretending the following story does not exist:

Conservative activist assaulted at UC-Berkeley campus during recruitment drive

https://www.foxnews.com/us/conservative-activist-assaulted-at-uc-berkeley-campus-during-recruitment-drive

and for those lefties that are too scared to click on a Fox link:

https://www.newsweek.com/conservative-student-assaulted-uc-berkeley-while-recruiting-other-1340057



First of all, I clicked on the Fox link anyway because Newsweek's site is terrible... haha....

Second of all, you linked to Newsweek, which has a strong liberal bias, so you're undercutting your own argument that "lefties" are "pretending the following story does not exist."

EDIT: More "liberal media" coverage of this story:

CBS news
San Francisco Chronicle
ABC affiliate

That was just selected links from the first page of a Google search.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 12:54:45 PM permalink
Quote: Fleaswatter

Just like the lefties pretending the following story does not exist:



Does not exist???????
How about waiting for an investigation to see if this was a set up like the empire guy
After the 500k suit and Empire, conservatives should be demanding no assumptions
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 12:54:45 PM permalink
dup post
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 12:58:41 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

IIANM, in both Ore. and Ak., if a john is caught even talking to a hooker, the vehicle is confiscated.



Hopefully that nonsense ends after this week's ruling.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 1:26:27 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Hopefully that nonsense ends after this week's ruling.

If you are talking about asset seizure, Amen.
What a police state, when confiscated property, before a trial can be used for internal police purposes. Crazy.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 1:50:49 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

If you are talking about asset seizure, Amen.
What a police state, when confiscated property, before a trial can be used for internal police purposes. Crazy.



Road to Hell. It all started as the idea of taking money from the Walter Whites of the world. But kingpins are few and far between. Easier to take someone's car or cash and tell them to scram. Occasionally we get some freedom back.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 1:54:58 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Road to Hell. It all started as the idea of taking money from the Walter Whites of the world. But kingpins are few and far between. Easier to take someone's car or cash and tell them to scram. Occasionally we get some freedom back.



This is why I'm worried about traveling to Vegas with more than $1000 cash on me.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 6:24:32 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

We're finally getting to the truth.
H-wood is saying what Smollet
did is Trump's fault. Trump drove
Smollet to act irrationally and
Jussie should be given the chance
to apologize and make it all go away.

Yeah, like that's going to happen.
lol



I haven't heard any Hwood people say that. I fact I've heard several saying the opposite, that he's damaged legitimate claims of harassment and hate actions, and condemning him for it. You might try providing a source in making that claim.

That other thing, where the other side is blamed for pushing them into it, that's a Trump thing, including how the rest of his supporters either jump on the lying bandwagon or stay silent rather than calling it out. Like how the Democrats were to blame for the shutdown. 'Alternative' facts. All the rest. Despicable.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 6:43:12 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

I haven't heard any Hwood people say that. I fact I've heard several saying the opposite, that he's damaged legitimate claims of harassment and hate actions, and condemning him for it. You might try providing a source in making that claim.



EB is just posting fake nonsense just to get a rise out of you
There is a word for that kind of poster in forums but we are not supposed to use it
T***L
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February 22nd, 2019 at 6:49:27 PM permalink
If one person says something, then everyone can use that one person as an example of “people are saying this” or the “left is saying this”

It’s extremely annoying
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February 22nd, 2019 at 6:55:09 PM permalink
Quote: terapined

EB is just posting fake nonsense just to get a rise out of you
There is a word for that kind of poster in forums but we are not supposed to use it
T***L



It's still wrong to let nonsense stand unchallenged. Fatigue and repetition are making inroads on holding to a standard of truth. So refutation becomes more important than ever.

There's also a fair amount of indication and some hard evidence that the Russian Troll Farm is again interfering with an election. This time the 2020 Presidential, among the Democratic nominees both announced and expected.

Constant vigilance. Dull and obvious as it is, lies must be challenged.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 6:57:12 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

This is why I'm worried about traveling to Vegas with more than $1000 cash on me.



Short of dismantling the car you should be able to keep it from being found under a normal search. In fact, most seizures are probably from money being in the most obvious places they'd look at like glove box, trunk, on or under the seat, or in any other spaces.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 7:05:35 PM permalink
Kamala was disappointing it wasn’t true. Smollett is also one of the best people she knows. Sounds like she has some nice friends. From her own mouth.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 7:34:50 PM permalink
Quote: terapined

EB is just posting fake nonsense



Uh Huh. Even the Chicago police superintendent
said it.

"Justice would be for the 36-year-old actor to apologize, admit what he did and “then be man enough to offer what he should offer up in terms of all the resources that were put into this.” Chicago Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson

He thinks just a slap on the wrist and
pay a fine and that's enough.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 7:36:33 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

It's still wrong to let nonsense stand unchallenged..



https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/32539-in-the-news/15/#post702084
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February 22nd, 2019 at 7:43:27 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

It's still wrong to let nonsense stand unchallenged. Fatigue and repetition are making inroads on holding to a standard of truth. So refutation becomes more important than ever.

There's also a fair amount of indication and some hard evidence that the Russian Troll Farm is again interfering with an election. This time the 2020 Presidential, among the Democratic nominees both announced and expected.

Constant vigilance. Dull and obvious as it is, lies must be challenged.

I'm certain most of the Trump haters got all p***** wet when they heard some white Trump supporters attacked a black man. They wanted it to be true so they had more ammo supporting their claims that most Trump supporters are violent racists.


I'm not wishing or hoping for this, but it might happen.
After some jail time... Smollett, now serving at a McDonald's near you.

p.s. I knew this was all BS when I first heard it. Just like I knew Christine Blasey Ford's claims were all BS.
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February 22nd, 2019 at 7:47:44 PM permalink
This is why I never heard of Jussie. He
was a kid actor 25 years ago in the
mid 90's. Then didn't work again
for 14 years till 2009. He did a bunch
of one time bit parts in TV shows,
then got Empire. Which it totally
unwatchable, was almost cancelled
a couple times.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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