AN AP NIGHTMARE

Quote: GWAE

I for 1 miss them.

Ditto. I especially miss the beer pr0n! ;)

Quote: sodawater

This whole thread seems to be like a bad attempt at fiction.

I'm starting to agree. Just tell it and
get it over with if it's real. Making
it up is a lot more work and that
seems to be what might be
happening.

I want to know what happens...

lose the " attempt at" and I concur.

Guys guys guys. I went to sleep last night and woke up for court

And yes its AP related court case but that I cant discuss yet

My life is extremely exciting. What can I say

But I definitely prefer it quiet in relation to the events of this thread. I wish they didnt happen

But they did.

So lets continue

About 10 minutes for me to compose the next events and post

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Quote: darkoz

My life is extremely exciting.

Condolences. That's the last thing I
want, excitement. I go out of my
way to make things as unexciting
as possible.

bated breath,,,,,,,, or is it baited?

Quote: FleaStiff

bated breath,,,,,,,, or is it baited?

Bated, unless you've eaten actual bait
for lunch. Knowing your diet, that's
a possibility..

Quote: EvenBob

Bated, unless you've eaten actual bait
for lunch. Knowing your diet, that's
a possibility..

Please pass the cat food sardines! (Teasing)

When will there be a horses's head or fish wrapped in newspaper?

If this is a true story, I'm interested
in what the police said. There has
to be a police report to file an
insurance claim. With the dollar
value of what was stolen, you're
looking at serious jail time.

I doubt police were summoned. Plus no way was there insurance to cover more than a few thousand of the damages.

Quote: EvenBob

If this is a true story, I'm interested
in what the police said. There has
to be a police report to file an
insurance claim. With the dollar
value of what was stolen, you're
looking at serious jail time.

He said he had decided not to involve the police, I took it as primarily he didn't want them getting the huge stash of casino cards.

I woke up the day after the robbery with a simple plan

A stupidly simple plan

(I suppose not that original since 2 other posters here also suggested it. Maxpen may be horrified to find we both think alike)

I decided to ask all the suspects to take a lie detector test. The person who refused was it

The plan had some faults. More than one person might refuse, haughtily arguing they were above suspicion and it was an insult

Or the guilty party might know what I was doing and say yes like everyone else. But I had no other ideas. Worse comes of it I would pay for the actual tests and if everyone passed there would be peace of mind it wasnt any of my people. (I had already supposed the possibility of a blabbermouth but didnt give that too much credence. The players cards were inside one particular location of many. All of them should have been searched if it was just based on an overheard conversation. Instead the one location was opened while the others were not. I was convinced it was one of the main suspects)

First person I called was the least likely. My former girlfriend. Would she submit to a lie detector test?

Her response: "just let me know when. Oooh, I'm gonna have fun taking that one. You know I didnt do it"

"I know. But to be fair I have to ask everyone"

"Well, when you ask your girlfriend and she says she not taking it call me back so I can say I told you so."

"Its possible everyone says yes, you know. Im not certain this idea is going to work. The guilty person might be wise enough to say sure, no problem"

"Wellll," my ex-girlfriend stated, "we already know how sharp your current girlfriend is so if she says yes, its her too"

"Whatever!!!" I replied hanging up the phone.

Next person was my son. He was with me that day but working off the accomplice theory was still a suspect.

He laughed when I asked. "Sure I understand. Not a problem for me."

Next up was my daughter. I was certain it was not her either. I was saving the likely culprits for last. But she didn't answer so I went onto my former son-in-law (I left a message for her to call me back)

My former son-in-law. He had been the main suspect.
He still had all the motives due to the recent breakup and his plans to move away since my daughter was getting remarried.

He practically screamed his reply. "I will take 5 lie detector tests. I didn't do this. You will see. I want you to know that."

"One test will be sufficient. They aren't cheap," I half-quipped.

I was feeling better though. He had been the first person I accused. Oh well!

So far so good.

I took a deep breath and called my current girlfriend and hoped I got the answer I was looking for.

There was no hesitation, the words running smoothly off her tongue. "Absolutely. You know I got your back. This is gonna work. We need to know who did it and I know it wasnt me."

Perfect! Although that only left my daughter as a main suspect. Her fiance was a half-suspect as the only theory was a cleaning/casing the house idea my girlfriend had proposed. Otherwise he didnt even know the locations of the places ransacked.

I tried my daughter again. She answered this time

I explained how I wanted to put everyone to a polygraph test. It was the only way.

"I know, Dad. Its killing me too. Everyone is suspect and upset. This tearing the team apart. Sure I have no problems with taking a polygraph."

That was great. Of course, I still didnt know who was responsible for the burglary now.

"Well, put your fiance on. I want to let him know about the test as well."

My daughter handed her fiance the phone and I went over the details.

"We need to do it for my peace of mind. So I hope you don't have a problem with it," I said.

"Yeah, sure, I'll do it."

"Okay," I sighed. Some plan, I thought to myself.

"But, I think those tests are bullshit, you know," he continued. "They're not even admissible in court. They give a lot of false positives. If I was you, I wouldn't bother wasting my money. This guy isnt gonna be able to resist spending that money. Within a week you gonna know who did it. The person who starts coming up with mysterious expensive purchases is your man. Take my advice a polygraph isnt the way to go."

"Okay," I squeaked out. "I will take that under advisement."

I hung up the phone, my heart racing a mile a minute.

Such a stupidly simple plan

Quote: darkoz

I woke up the day after the robbery with a simple plan

A stupidly simple plan

(I suppose not that original since 2 other posters here also suggested it. Maxpen may be horrified to find we both think alike)

I decided to ask all the suspects to take a lie detector test. The person who refused was it

The plan had some faults. More than one person might refuse, haughtily arguing they were above suspicion and it was an insult

Or the guilty party might know what I was doing and say yes like everyone else. But I had no other ideas. Worse comes of it I would pay for the actual tests and if everyone passed there would be peace of mind it wasnt any of my people. (I had already supposed the possibility of a blabbermouth but didnt give that too much credence. The players cards were inside one particular location of many. All of them should have been searched if it was just based on an overheard conversation. Instead the one location was opened while the others were not. I was convinced it was one of the main suspects)

First person I called was the least likely. My former girlfriend. Would she submit to a lie detector test?

Her response: "just let me know when. Oooh, I'm gonna have fun taking that one. You know I didnt do it"

"I know. But to be fair I have to ask everyone"

"Well, when you ask your girlfriend and she says she not taking it call me back so I can say I told you so."

"Its possible everyone says yes, you know. Im not certain this idea is going to work. The guilty person might be wise enough to say sure, no problem"

"Wellll," my ex-girlfriend stated, "we already know how sharp your current girlfriend is so if she says yes, its her too"

"Whatever!!!" I replied hanging up the phone.

Next person was my son. He was with me that day but working off the accomplice theory was still a suspect.

He laughed when I asked. "Sure I understand. Not a problem for me."

Next up was my daughter. I was certain it was not her either. I was saving the likely culprits for last. But she didn't answer so I went onto my former son-in-law (I left a message for her to call me back)

My former son-in-law. He had been the main suspect.
He still had all the motives due to the recent breakup and his plans to move away since my daughter was getting remarried.

He practically screamed his reply. "I will take 5 lie detector tests. I didn't do this. You will see. I want you to know that."

"One test will be sufficient. They aren't cheap," I half-quipped.

I was feeling better though. He had been the first person I accused. Oh well!

So far so good.

I took a deep breath and called my current girlfriend and hoped I got the answer I was looking for.

There was no hesitation, the words running smoothly off her tongue. "Absolutely. You know I got your back. This is gonna work. We need to know who did it and I know it wasnt me."

Perfect! Although that only left my daughter as a main suspect. Her fiance was a half-suspect as the only theory was a cleaning/casing the house idea my girlfriend had proposed. Otherwise he didnt even know the locations of the places ransacked.

I tried my daughter again. She answered this time

I explained how I wanted to put everyone to a polygraph test. It was the only way.

"I know, Dad. Its killing me too. Everyone is suspect and upset. This tearing the team apart. Sure I have no problems with taking a polygraph."

That was great. Of course, I still didnt know who was responsible for the burglary now.

"Well, put your fiance on. I want to let him know about the test as well."

My daughter handed her fiance the phone and I went over the details.

"We need to do it for my peace of mind. So I hope you don't have a problem with it," I said.

"Yeah, sure, I'll do it."

"Okay," I sighed. Some plan, I thought to myself.

"But, I think those tests are bullshit, you know," he continued. "They're not even admissible in court. They give a lot of false positives. If I was you, I wouldn't bother wasting my money. This guy isnt gonna be able to resist spending that money. Within a week you gonna know who did it. The person who starts coming up with mysterious expensive purchases is your man. Take my advice a polygraph isnt the way to go."

"Okay," I squeaked out. "I will take that under advisement."

I hung up the phone, my heart racing a mile a minute.

Such a stupidly simple plan

Anyone else thinking of the Married with Children episode where Al thinks he is a private detective and tries to find the murderer in a room full of suspects?

Yeah.....me neither.

But. If the shoe fits....that's your man or woman.

"I decided to ask all the suspects to take a lie detector test."

Why all the melodrama, Miss Marple. You
could have said all that in one paragraph.

"Everyone involved agreed to take the
test, though my daughters fiance put
up an argument."

See what I did there, eliminated 800
not needed words? The fact that
you refuse to call the cops sends
up huge warning flags that any of
this is even true.

Quote: EvenBob

"I decided to ask all the suspects to take a lie detector test."

Why all the melodrama, Miss Marple. You
could have said all that in one paragraph.

"Everyone involved agreed to take the
test, though my daughters fiance put
up an argument."

See what I did there, eliminated 800
not needed words? The fact that
you refuse to call the cops sends
up huge warning flags that any of
this is even true.

I dont trust anyone's opinion on the truth when their icon is a picture of Donald Trump

Stay tuned for the next episode. Same Bat Time. Same Bat Channel.

This has been a well-written narrative - very readable and good narrative tension. I'm enjoying it. The people criticizing this thread do not write as well as DarkOz.

Not Even Bob.

Quote: gordonm888

This has been a well-written narrative - very readable and good narrative tension. I'm enjoying it. The people criticizing this thread do not write as well as DarkOz.

Not Even Bob.

Let me make it perfectly clear that I agree with Gordon here. I am really enjoying the read. I am sorry it is at Darkoz's expense though.

Since Evenbob thinks a short version is better, here goes.

I got robbed

There were a handful of suspects

I figured out who did it

The end

If everyone is happy with that version this thread is finished

Quote: darkoz

Since Evenbob thinks a short version is better, here goes.

I got robbed

There were a handful of suspects

I figured out who did it

The end

If everyone is happy with that version this thread is finished

No!!! Keep going. This thread is aces.

Quote: unJon

No!!! Keep going. This thread is aces.

Please keep going!!

Quote: gordonm888

This has been a well-written narrative - very readable and good narrative tension. I'm enjoying it. The people criticizing this thread do not write as well as DarkOz.

Not Even Bob.

I'm not writing fiction as he obviously
is. I'm just rattling off opinions. My
writing gets better too if I'm writing
a who done it novella..

[redacted]

Quote: darkoz

Since Evenbob thinks a short version is better, here goes.

I got robbed

There were a handful of suspects

I figured out who did it

The end

If everyone is happy with that version this thread is finished

See? How hard was that. Good for you,
call the cops now. Because I know
none of the people involved, I don't
need to know who did it. Whether it's
a true story or not. I'm very good at
walking out of movies half way thru,
my wife hates it. So we always drive
separate cars to the theater.

Quote: EvenBob

See? How hard was that. Good for you,
call the cops now. Because I know
none of the people involved, I don't
need to know who did it. Whether it's
a true story or not. I'm very good at
walking out of movies half way thru,
my wife hates it. So we always drive
separate cars to the theater.

Soooo

Why are you still in this thread?

Shouldn't you have walked off by now

Its the halfway point fyi

Quote: darkoz

Soooo
Why are you still in this thread?
Shouldn't you have walked off by now

I did, I'm halfway down the block
waving at you. Look for my red
MAGA hat, you can't miss it.

Keep going Darkoz,I'm enjoying it.

Thread is better when you skip all of EB's posts

Quote: gordonm888

The people criticizing this thread do not write as well as DarkOz.

Notice that I have not criticized this thread.

Quote: Admin

The rest of this post has been deleted out of the forum's policy of respecting personal privacy.

Quote: teliot

Quote removed by administrator.

Quote: admin

Forum administration has removed a quote by teliot as it was allegedly false, inflammatory, and potentially libelous.

Does legal jeopardy mean a criminal conviction or an overzealous prosecutor trying something that doesn't work?

Also, does the thing you refer to involve real people like Darkoz claims he uses or something else?

I think its pretty silly to insinuate that two people exploiting freeplay in a similar way must be working together.

Quote: teliot

The "players card" play has now landed ..

What is players card play. I don't
spend much time here anymore
and I missed that one.

Quote: EvenBob

What is players card play. I don't
spend much time here anymore
and I missed that one.

Wiz of Nothing was running a players card hustle people got burned including Dark and or his daughter.
I think that's right.

Quote: randomperson

I think its pretty silly to insinuate that two people exploiting freeplay in a similar way must be working together.

I totally agree.

The insinuation, which I am sorry was not clearly stated, was that if it was illegal for one in a given jurisdiction, then the other should be perhaps a bit more careful when he states that the method is legal.

I have been contacted on more than one occasion to be an expert witness in cases involving player card fraud.

Quote: EvenBob

What is players card play. I don't
spend much time here anymore
and I missed that one.

I agree in that I don't know why one person would have multiple players cards in different names. It can't be for jackpots because I think every casino I have won a jackpot in asks for a license and SSN. Not sure what a players card in someone elses name would get me. Unless I had a matching license and SSN......

Quote: teliot

oiginal quote redacted

teliot and all.

He's not able to defend himself here, and this has been hashed out in detail in other threads. Let's leave him out of this one, please.

Quote: teliot

I totally agree.

The insinuation, which I am sorry was not clearly stated, was that if it was illegal for one in a given jurisdiction, then the other should be perhaps a bit more careful when he states that the method is legal.

I have been contacted on more than one occasion to be an expert witness in cases involving player card fraud.

I know people that do it because they think its legal, and if they had any sense that it wasn't, then it would stop overnight.

If you have any information about that, it seems weird to post vaguely referencing it and then not say what the result was.

I'm not seeing exactly what the point of an expert witness would be in a case like this. Everyone basically agrees on the facts that someone is using someone else's players card with permission. That's either illegal or not and its not clear to me what a gambling expert could add to the discussion.

Sorry I posted this before the previous post, you can delete if you want.

Quote: beachbumbabs

teliot and all.

He's not able to defend himself here, and this has been hashed out in detail in other threads. Let's leave him out of this one, please.

To the extent that the information present is not in the public domain, I agree. To the extent that this is in the public domain, be a good moderator and let it go. Otherwise, the thread about Trump should be closed. See what I mean?

Quote: admin

A link teliot left in this post was removed out of the forum's protection of privacy policy.

Quote: teliot

To the extent that the information present is not in the public domain, I agree. To the extent that this is in the public domain, be a good moderator and let it go. Otherwise, the thread about Trump should be closed. See what I mean?
Link redacted by admin

Am I suppose to know who [redacted] is? It looks like they barred him because they had no idea what he was trying to do?

Quote: cmlotito

Am I suppose to know who (redacted) is? It looks like they barred him because they had no idea what he was trying to do?

Maybe you don't, many do.

Quote: EvenBob

I'm very good at
walking out of movies half way thru,
my wife hates it.

The poor girl.

This little affectation of yours must go over really well with her in bed.

I will make one comment here about the legality issue.

The same state where that other unmentionable is banned everywhere is where I was caught as well

Caught first with about 8 cards. It was very early on in the play and I said the people sent me to avoid travelling far (all addresses were from NY. It was plausible the people didnt want to travel to PA)

Everyone vouched for me naturally

The casino saw a lot of high ADT people and didnt want to shut them off unilaterally

I was reprimanded but not trespassed

I needed to go in and still make the play

For 4 weeks I hit them in my famous mask no one here seems to think works

When they finally put it all together I was caught IN A MASK WITH ALL 28 CARDS FROM THE PLAY

Naturally I was trespassed at that casino from that point on

Police called every single person whose card I had and everyone vouched for me

To this day there are no charges
To this day I am not trespassed in the rest of the state

That was over 2 years ago

I think that should speak to whether its illegal or not

Christ EB why did you have to ruin a good thing? Go do this crap in Nathan’s corner.

DarkOz please share the next chapter with us. EB does not represent the forum.

Quote: beachbumbabs

teliot and all. He's not able to defend himself here.

So what?

I see no rule against discussing prior interactions with former members, especially disgraced, quasi-notorious former members.

Please, let's not over-moderate this thread: just let the kids play within the bounds of the rules.

Quote: Johnzimbo

Thread is better when you skip all of EB's posts

I think we just found the post of the year. Never seen so many thank you's

Thanks :-)

Quote: beachbumbabs

teliot and all.

He's not able to defend himself here, and this has been hashed out in detail in other threads. Let's leave him out of this one, please.

Why would someone who is not a member of the forum be immune from being spoken about ? At this point it’s exsctky the same thing as talking about any other known scammer/fraud

Quote: terapined

I think we just found the post of the year. Never seen so many thank you's

Thanks :-)

Well gee can I get thread of the year nomination?

Quote: darkoz

Well gee can I get thread of the year nomination?

Gotta earn the Thank You's
His single post got 9 Thank You's
Have not seen a post with more