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WongBo
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June 8th, 2012 at 5:46:52 PM permalink
i think seven days is a fair suspension,
as i do not think there is much animosity in Bob's posts.
he is more of a curmudgeon than a bitter, hateful person.
anyone who doesn't enjoy his posts can block him.
as far as the formatting of his posts,
he simply hits the return key after every eight words or so.
are you guys really so baffled by that?
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Keyser
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June 8th, 2012 at 6:46:10 PM permalink
I guess that means we'll see Evenbob in 2,3 weeks then.
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June 8th, 2012 at 10:00:07 PM permalink
Quote: WongBo

i think seven days is a fair suspension,
as i do not think there is much animosity in Bob's posts.
he is more of a curmudgeon than a bitter, hateful person.
anyone who doesn't enjoy his posts can block him.
as far as the formatting of his posts,
he simply hits the return key after every eight words or so.
are you guys really so baffled by that?



Actually, when you look in to this site on a split-screen, EB's format is the most readable. Not that I do that often, but when I do it is weird, he is the only poster that you can see without scrolling.

On his comment on casinos, that casinos suck the house edge out of every dollar dropped in the slots or laid on the felt is not disputable. If you do not like that fact, hanging on this forum is a bit like the atheist demanding the Christian Club on a college campus admit non-believers. What is the point? Though you can say this board has evolved from gaming-based to gaming-and-logical-thinkers-based over the time it has been up. A good thing as after dice-control gets discussed for the 38th time you need to talk about something else.
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June 9th, 2012 at 6:47:19 AM permalink
Quote: WongBo

i think seven days is a fair suspension,
as i do not think there is much animosity in Bob's posts.
he is more of a curmudgeon than a bitter, hateful person.
anyone who doesn't enjoy his posts can block him.
as far as the formatting of his posts,
he simply hits the return key after every eight words or so.
are you guys really so baffled by that?



I agree with this a little, that Bob is not a totally hateful person, but purely trying to goad me (- or anyone) via personal attacks on me or my career's industry, and it is certainly somewhat unbalanced and hateful. I am not a saint, and don't pretend to be, but I don't commit ad hoc flaming or out-of-the-blue ad hominen attacks the style he is known for. It is certainly inappropriate and unprofessional, and reflects badly on us all. Not that I was upset (I wasn't, believe me, the opinions of others on an Internet board mean little if not having previously earned my respect), but What was his point of doing this? Just nasty and pointless.

I appreciate a good debate that may include some solid blows and good jabs, but Bob's THREAD (not just a post) was just pure shot-taking for the sake of flaming, without any basis or as a part of any debate, - just a pure and utterly useless sniper shot, a waste of everyone's time.

It was just so sophomoric and useless that its only purpose was to say: "Look at me! I am flaming and dragging down a gaming industry forum! Weee!" - kind of like a child who says, "Look Mom! I am riding my bike a 40 mph without my hands!!!" - and then crashes and gashes his arm, costing the family $2,000 in medical bills, and so gets grounded for two weeks for being a reckless clown with no maturity, decorum or protocol.

Most kids learn. We'll see if Bob does....
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June 9th, 2012 at 12:37:47 PM permalink
" Most kids learn. We'll see if Bob does.... "

I expect EvenBob to be the same Bob that left. That's if he comes back !
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June 9th, 2012 at 1:40:13 PM permalink
Can someone on suspension receive a private message?
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June 9th, 2012 at 1:48:53 PM permalink
I *believe* that you can send the PM, and the person on suspension will get the email that they have a PM waiting. But they won't be able to log in to read it or reply.
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Keyser
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June 9th, 2012 at 1:56:35 PM permalink
Bob won't be able to receive it for 14 - 21 days.
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June 9th, 2012 at 2:00:55 PM permalink
Quote: Keyser

Bob won't be able to receive it for 14 - 21 days.



Why do you say that? Isn't his suspension over in 5 days?
Mission146
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June 9th, 2012 at 2:13:31 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Why do you say that? Isn't his suspension over in 5 days?



That's the second time Keyser has said something to this effect. If you peruse the suspension list, then you will see that Keyser was on it back in April for seven days for personal insult. This is speculation, but my guess is that Keyser was, "Forgotten about," after being placed on the suspension list and was not reinstated for two-three weeks.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
Mission146
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June 9th, 2012 at 2:15:22 PM permalink
Keyser also had no posts from April 23rd to May 10th, which further supports my theory.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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June 9th, 2012 at 2:38:16 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

That's the second time Keyser has said something to this effect. If you peruse the suspension list, then you will see that Keyser was on it back in April for seven days for personal insult. This is speculation, but my guess is that Keyser was, "Forgotten about," after being placed on the suspension list and was not reinstated for two-three weeks.



He and two others were indeed "forgotten about" although I don't know if forgotten is the right word. Maybe more like not a priority? Not one of them whined or complained about it either.
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Keyser
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June 9th, 2012 at 2:46:52 PM permalink
My experience is that a seven day suspension means that you can't post for at least 14 -21 days or more. Others have said the same.

I was suspended for 7 days for being insensative and politically incorrect, but it was far longer before I was allowed to receive PMs or post.

It simply is what it is.
mrjjj
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June 9th, 2012 at 3:14:44 PM permalink
Quote: 1BB

He and two others were indeed "forgotten about" although I don't know if forgotten is the right word. Maybe more like not a priority? Not one of them whined or complained about it either.




Oh really? Speaking of forgetting, how about this.....I didn't even remember I could come back and post after my ban was up, I was too busy sorting socks.

Ken
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June 9th, 2012 at 7:04:02 PM permalink
I got an email from EvenBob.

I asked for his permission to repeat the entire thing here.

I told him that I am repeating this one sentence:

Quote: EvenBob's email

This is Evenbob. First of all, I can receive PM's, I just can't reply to them.

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June 9th, 2012 at 7:41:14 PM permalink
same during my 3 days. and I was back posting on the 4th day.
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June 10th, 2012 at 3:23:36 PM permalink
Based upon the title alone, I submit this thread (which I didn't read) for possible membership suspension.

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/10138-wizard-of-odds-fan-fiction-part-ii-the-wizard-gets-laid/
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Mission146
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June 10th, 2012 at 3:29:59 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Based upon the title alone, I submit this thread (which I didn't read) for possible membership suspension.

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/10138-wizard-of-odds-fan-fiction-part-ii-the-wizard-gets-laid/



I made the mistake of reading it.

Second.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
rdw4potus
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June 10th, 2012 at 3:39:56 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

I made the mistake of reading it.

Second.



third. Also, added a personal attack against DJTeddybear now, too.

So, that's a story that's basically a strange attack on the Wiz, an attack on DJ, and - if the part about the commercial success of part I is true - then also a spam/commercial violation.
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June 10th, 2012 at 3:53:49 PM permalink
The page is gone, but the WoFF hasn't (yet) been added to the suspension list.
WongBo
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June 10th, 2012 at 4:00:33 PM permalink
what about this trash:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/3978-wizard-of-odds-fan-fiction/
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Ibeatyouraces
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June 10th, 2012 at 4:05:03 PM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
WongBo
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June 10th, 2012 at 4:07:49 PM permalink
good idea: get your original post removed, just repost it.
we will just refer to today as the last day you were a forum member, mkay?
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nmacgre
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June 10th, 2012 at 4:09:12 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

third. Also, added a personal attack against DJTeddybear now, too.

So, that's a story that's basically a strange attack on the Wiz, an attack on DJ, and - if the part about the commercial success of part I is true - then also a spam/commercial violation.



I'm pretty sure the commercial success bit is true, so I agree with your statement. Great catch on that forum violation.
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June 10th, 2012 at 4:14:03 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

If this one didn't merit a suspension or deletion, I can just imagine how bad this latest one was. I didn't get to read it.



Didn't get to see the new edition but I found the last one quite funny. The errors just added to the humor.
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June 10th, 2012 at 4:20:28 PM permalink
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mrjjj
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June 10th, 2012 at 4:23:02 PM permalink
Quote: WongBo

good idea: get your original post removed, just repost it.
we will just refer to today as the last day you were a forum member, mkay?




Yeah, when the Wizard decides, NOT you/us.

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June 10th, 2012 at 4:33:34 PM permalink
Quote: mrjjj

Yeah, when the Wizard decides, NOT you/us.



No, the Wizard doesn't decide how users can refer to each other.
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June 10th, 2012 at 4:39:18 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

No, the Wizard doesn't decide how users can refer to each other.



Do you actually NOT have Ken blocked?? :-)
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June 10th, 2012 at 4:40:26 PM permalink
The worst part about the first one was that the Wizard wouldn't smoke a cigarette if I offered him $100.

Okay, that wasn't the worst part.

But, geez, anyone that has read the Reviews knows THAT about him!

I'm not even a, "Fan," per se, but I enjoy his sites. I also like him, but he is not of the celebrity (No offense, Wiz) for me to use the term, "Fan."
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mrjjj
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June 10th, 2012 at 4:48:01 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

No, the Wizard doesn't decide how users can refer to each other.




POINT being (and you know the point), the Wizard DECIDES who gets the boot. If this hurts your feelings in some form, I apologize.

Ken
mrjjj
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June 10th, 2012 at 4:50:17 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

Do you actually NOT have Ken blocked?? :-)




Its a great feature....if you're 12.

(lol) I'm a grown-up, I simply DECIDE who/what I want to read or respond to.

Ken
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June 10th, 2012 at 5:48:30 PM permalink
The first one was funny, if bizzare. The second one was terrible.
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June 10th, 2012 at 6:23:18 PM permalink
It's really quite simple. The suspension list comes down to courtesy, and politeness.

When you're on this board, you're sort of in JB and the Wizard's house.
It you disagree with them, that's ok, provided that you are polite and provided that you don't go to far outside of their believe system. If you completely disagree with their points of view, then you are free to leave and speak your mind elsewhere, or risk offending your hosts.


Basically it comes down to etiquette. You have stay within the boundaries set by the host, especially if you're are talking about a subject that is very sensitive to them.

-Keyser
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June 13th, 2012 at 8:32:10 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

EvenBob has been suspended for this post. After I did it I learned about this one, which is also don't care for. Sentencing has not been decided yet.



Well, I will say this. I look like several in that photo, and I do consider myself to be in less than great physical shape.
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June 13th, 2012 at 9:20:55 AM permalink
I had no problem with the photo comment, I look worse than anyone in it!!! Bob also included himself in the joke so anyone who thought that was bad is being way too sensative.
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June 13th, 2012 at 11:52:46 AM permalink
Quote: hook3670

I had no problem with the photo comment, I look worse than anyone in it!!! Bob also included himself in the joke so anyone who thought that was bad is being way to sensative.



Hear, hear. That's a very sensible outlook.
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June 13th, 2012 at 11:59:00 AM permalink
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DorothyGale has requested to be self-banned.

Gentlemen, why is it that whenever a woman wanders into this site she never lasts?



I'm still here; I just haven't had a chance to go to Vegas for a year and a half, so it's a tease to read about it!

I've been to Atlantic City for a weekend, spent a few hours here and there in casinos in Arizona, and took my 18-year-old son on one of those boats where you can play at age 18, and none of those compare.
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June 14th, 2012 at 12:49:40 PM permalink
Keyser has been banned for violating the personal insult rule. This is his second offense, so the sentence is 14 days.
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July 1st, 2012 at 5:18:26 PM permalink
mrjjj gets 21 days for this post, which I consider a personal insult. 21 days may seem harsh, but he is a repeat offender, and his last suspension was 14 days. I would recommend Mr. jjj find another forum more friendly to betting system believers why he is away, such as John Patrick's site. Hopefully he will feel more at home there.
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July 1st, 2012 at 5:28:06 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

mrjjj gets 21 days for this post, which I consider a personal insult. 21 days may seem harsh, but he is a repeat offender, and his last suspension was 14 days. I would recommend Mr. jjj find another forum more friendly to betting system believers why he is away, such as John Patrick's site. Hopefully he will feel more at home there.



While I can see there being a personal attack there, personally I don't think that particular post, written by anybody else, would have been cause for alarm...

That being said, much like college football, you have to look at the body of work. I'll be 100% honest: the past week has been chaotic for me with work, but when I see so many posts made by such a negative poster who I've just learned to ignore, and some threads he started, I've not really paid much attention here. I like to think of myself as somewhat of a contributor on some postings, and I imagine there are others who feel the same way.

I don't believe in blocking people, because they could easily attack me without knowing, but I think if there is a current use for the nuclear button, this would be the one....

Just my two cents... back to reading, then packing...
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July 1st, 2012 at 5:44:22 PM permalink
Quote: Tiltpoul

That being said, much like college football, you have to look at the body of work.



I do consider the body of work as well. In this case, his body of work does not speak well. My finger is not far from the "nuclear option" button when it comes to him.
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July 1st, 2012 at 5:56:22 PM permalink
He's expressed his opinion on the Gambler's Glen. I am touched that he mentioned me. Truly touched.
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July 1st, 2012 at 6:11:41 PM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

He's expressed his opinion on the Gambler's Glen. I am touched that he mentioned me. Truly touched.



"They love him most of all for the enemies he has made." ;)
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July 1st, 2012 at 6:17:00 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

"They love him most of all for the enemies he has made." ;)




But this goes against Michael Corleone's advice :

" My father taught me many things here. He taught me in this room. He taught me; 'keep your friends close, but your enemies closer'.
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July 1st, 2012 at 6:45:21 PM permalink
Based on a post made outside of the forum, mrjjj has just been upgraded to the nuclear option.
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July 1st, 2012 at 6:49:59 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Based on a post made outside of the forum, mrjjj has just been upgraded to the nuclear option.



Someone link this please. I found his last rant session on another forum interesting...
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July 1st, 2012 at 6:51:00 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Based on a post made outside of the forum, mrjjj has just been upgraded to the nuclear option.



I saw....

I would suggest, should any members think about it, that engaging in an inter-forum war is not a good idea. (I did think about it).
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July 1st, 2012 at 6:59:30 PM permalink
I'm going to ask that nobody link to his posts outside of the forum, as it would just be feeding a troll, and just pollute the air that I'm trying to clean up a little.
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July 1st, 2012 at 7:04:09 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I'm going to ask that nobody link to his posts outside of the forum, as it would just be feeding a troll, and just pollute the air that I'm trying to clean up a little.



10-4. Found it on my own, and while I wasn't planning on doing anything but reading, I'll follow both Nareed's advice and your request and not mention anything at all.
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