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MathExtremist
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April 26th, 2016 at 10:10:42 AM permalink
Quote: TheGrimReaper13

Lol. Non-lawyers ought not publicize legal advice or opinion. (Someone might sue you?)

Someone can always sue me anyway, but rendering an interpretation of statute is not the same as "practicing law without a license." You can't possibly believe that licensed attorneys are the only group permitted to discuss the law.
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TwoFeathersATL
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April 26th, 2016 at 10:10:56 AM permalink
Quote: TheGrimReaper13

Lol. Non-lawyers ought not publicize legal advice or opinion. (Someone might sue you?)

if you got nuttin to lose, you don't have to worry 'bout sueers, suitors, sueez, sootties, zooers, sew (ers), or aliens from space. Life is good, for some....
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
TheGrimReaper13
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April 26th, 2016 at 10:15:28 AM permalink
Quote: MathExtremist

You can't possibly believe that licensed attorneys are the only group permitted to discuss the law.

Giving bad advice is now a form of legal negligence.
So much bullshit; so little time!
MathExtremist
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April 26th, 2016 at 10:21:19 AM permalink
Quote: TheGrimReaper13

Giving bad advice is now a form of legal negligence.

Not where there is no representation. If I tell you on this forum that you should sue your grocer for selling GMO foods, and you do and you lose, I'm not on the hook for that. If you *hired me* to give you the same advice, I would be.

Think about what that would mean otherwise. Everyone who has ever published their "winning gambling system" would be on the hook for giving bad advice and therefore legally negligent.
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April 26th, 2016 at 10:25:37 AM permalink
Quote: TheGrimReaper13

Lol. Non-lawyers ought not publicize legal advice or opinion. (Someone might sue you?)



Oh, I see what you did there.
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April 26th, 2016 at 10:31:12 AM permalink
Quote: RS

Oh, I see what you did there.

Let's all go hang out a shingle.
So much bullshit; so little time!
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April 26th, 2016 at 10:46:43 AM permalink
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Think about what that would mean otherwise. Everyone who has ever published their "winning gambling system" would be on the hook for giving bad advice and therefore legally negligent.

Wouldn't that be nice. If you could actually collect, you could go around free rolling them.

I'm wondering if you could actually win a case if you used someone's gambling system who promised you would make money?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
TheGrimReaper13
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April 26th, 2016 at 10:52:24 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I'm wondering if you could actually win a case if you used someone's gambling system who promised you would make money?

I guess it depends who the someone is.
So much bullshit; so little time!
TwoFeathersATL
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April 26th, 2016 at 10:56:05 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Wouldn't that be nice. If you could actually collect, you could go around free rolling them.

I'm wondering if you could actually win a case if you used someone's gambling system who promised you would make money?

I can sell you a system, I can promise you will win. You send me money now. Should you lose you wondering if you can sue me for bad advice? Your atty has to file suit, they have to serve 'papers' on me. 'Cept I'm down in the islands buyin' H&B with what was 'your money', hard to serve those papers on me now. I'll still read the forums, maybe I'll post a pic or two of what your money bought ;-)
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MathExtremist
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April 26th, 2016 at 11:02:02 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Wouldn't that be nice. If you could actually collect, you could go around free rolling them.

I'm wondering if you could actually win a case if you used someone's gambling system who promised you would make money?

I think it depends on what the deal was. If you paid money for a system and then lost money with it, you may have a fraud claim as long as you were truly duped -- that is, you weren't someone who knew that it was bunk in advance and was trying to freeroll. That happened just last month in Vegas:
http://news3lv.com/news/local/suspect-with-guaranteed-system-of-gambling-arrested-for-securities-fraud
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TheGrimReaper13
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April 26th, 2016 at 11:16:13 AM permalink
Quote: MathExtremist

...as long as you were truly duped -- that is, you weren't someone who knew that it was bunk in advance and was trying to freeroll.

Truly strange thinking. Nobody would then. 2F already alluded to the civil suit consequences.
Last edited by: TheGrimReaper13 on Apr 26, 2016
So much bullshit; so little time!
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April 26th, 2016 at 11:24:49 AM permalink
Quote: TwoFeathersATL

I can sell you a system, I can promise you will win. You send me money now. Should you lose you wondering if you can sue me for bad advice? Your atty has to file suit, they have to serve 'papers' on me. 'Cept I'm down in the islands buyin' H&B with what was 'your money', hard to serve those papers on me now. I'll still read the forums, maybe I'll post a pic or two of what your money bought ;-)


You would have to figure out how to post pictures first 2F lol.
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TwoFeathersATL
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April 26th, 2016 at 12:16:07 PM permalink
Quote: PokerGrinder

You would have to figure out how to post pictures first 2F lol.


RR+ 1, and counting ;-)
<edit> Actually, RR+2, I forgot I charge Canadians double ;-)
Last edited by: TwoFeathersATL on Apr 26, 2016
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April 26th, 2016 at 1:21:31 PM permalink
Qfit for Kewlj, the forum really got screwed
on that trade. I miss Kewlj every single day,
there is nobody like him here now. He was
always willing to share so much of what
he does, I learned a lot from him.
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TheGrimReaper13
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April 26th, 2016 at 3:16:27 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Qfit for Kewlj, the forum really got screwed
on that trade. I miss Kewlj every single day,
there is nobody like him here now. He was
always willing to share so much of what
he does, I learned a lot from him.

BS is easy and fun to learn.
So much bullshit; so little time!
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April 26th, 2016 at 6:01:49 PM permalink
I can't wait to find out who TheGrimReaper is. 😒
$1700, 18, 19, 1920, 40, 60,... :/ Thx 'Do it again'. I'll try
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April 28th, 2016 at 9:00:29 AM permalink
PM me if you REALLY want to know ?
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April 28th, 2016 at 9:13:50 AM permalink
I wonder what the old Buzzard thinks...maybe he is listening and will let me know...
TheGrimReaper13
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April 28th, 2016 at 9:24:07 AM permalink
Quote: Mooseton

I can't wait to find out who TheGrimReaper is. 😒

I'm in no hurry to find out.
So much bullshit; so little time!
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April 28th, 2016 at 10:23:04 AM permalink
Quote: Mooseton

I can't wait to find out who TheGrimReaper is. 😒



Kerkebet?
TwoFeathersATL
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April 28th, 2016 at 1:43:38 PM permalink
3 Feathers ?
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April 28th, 2016 at 1:54:55 PM permalink
1/2 feather would be a good name
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AxelWolf
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May 1st, 2016 at 7:37:16 AM permalink
Quote: Greasyjohn

Kerkebet?

that's kinda what I always thought.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
TheGrimReaper13
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May 1st, 2016 at 7:56:38 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

that's kinda what I always thought.

If you figured it out, everything, but it had a lot of three's and six's in it, would you still go with it?
So much bullshit; so little time!
AxelWolf
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May 1st, 2016 at 6:47:19 PM permalink
Quote: TheGrimReaper13

If you figured it out, everything, but it had a lot of three's and six's in it, would you still go with it?

I just thought it was a possibility I really haven't thought about it much. It's really not that important as long as you are not B79.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
TwoFeathersATL
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May 2nd, 2016 at 10:52:44 AM permalink
Oh help me now!
Another thread just got locked, shut down, and of course I just happened to just post in it.
That would be the 'Discovering Beatable Games' thread.

I must be guilty, again.
Though I don't know why, again.
Seemed like mostly friendly banter, again.

Some parts of that illustrate perfectly why I have not, HAVE NOT, been added as an administrator here.
In spite of the nuance I add, I miss much of the nuance of others.
Story of my life... Just 2F
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TheGrimReaper13
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May 2nd, 2016 at 5:10:44 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

It's really not that important as long as you are not B79.

Did he tell the story here about getting mad, and throwing the baccarat shoe on the floor? Funny stuff. The casino banned him for a month.
So much bullshit; so little time!
AxelWolf
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May 2nd, 2016 at 6:16:50 PM permalink
Quote: TheGrimReaper13

Did he tell the story here about getting mad, and throwing the baccarat shoe on the floor? Funny stuff. The casino banned him for a month.

I don't recall that. I'm sure it's just another one of his BS burning building stories.
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TwoFeathersATL
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May 11th, 2016 at 6:46:30 AM permalink
eraamjeef's posted a blog entry.
Spam.
Shoe fly, don't bother me....

Meaning someone should throw a shoe at it.

<edit> Joeldezes blog post bothers me too!

<2nd edit> is there a panic button here somewhere ;-?

<3rd edit > Eraamjeef's , what Eraamjeef's ?
And Laurietootoomuch went poof as well.
Someone's watching, I should go now....
Last edited by: TwoFeathersATL on May 11, 2016
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May 11th, 2016 at 8:19:08 AM permalink
Quote: TwoFeathersATL

Someone's watching, I should go now....

Boz is still in jail?
So much bullshit; so little time!
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May 11th, 2016 at 8:33:16 AM permalink
Quote: TheGrimReaper13

Boz is still in jail?


Ask Sonuvabish69.
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
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May 13th, 2016 at 10:47:48 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Also, due to massive trolling in the same thread, and previous offenses, TheGrimReaper13 has been suspended, nuclear option.



Halleluia. About time.

So..... was he Kerkabet in another guise? His generally mangled and obtuse use of English grammar, logical argument and conversational English will not be missed (because he will surely return with another ID)
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May 13th, 2016 at 10:51:31 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Halleluia. About time.

So..... was he Kerkabet in another guise? His generally mangled and obtuse use of English grammar, logical argument and conversational English will not be missed (because he will surely return with another ID)



I always wondered how he lasted as long as he did.

From his first post, it seemed clear to me that he had been around previously.
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May 13th, 2016 at 11:07:05 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

I always wondered how he lasted as long as he did.

From his first post, it seemed clear to me that he had been around previously.

'Having been around previously' is a term worth remembering. Credit to AMS, as far as I know he 'coined' the term. Causing Havoc after having been around previously is another term. I discern a distinction. I'm good with that ;-)

The Reaper and I almost became buddies, I don't have many. Now I'm down to..well there's ( forgot an unfortunate incident )... I count one or two possibles, but very nearly zero actuals seems to be the way the math plays out.....

I called EB 'Buddy' once and he's had me blocked ever since ;-)

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May 13th, 2016 at 11:17:28 AM permalink
If I could have PROVED he was kerkebet, I would have nuked him immediately. I suspect strongly that it was. The standard of proof here is higher than that.
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May 13th, 2016 at 11:33:23 AM permalink
I suspected it was Kerkebet but he was trying to communicate more like normal.
TwoFeathersATL
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May 13th, 2016 at 11:49:05 AM permalink
Quote: Greasyjohn

I suspected it was Kerkebet but he was trying to communicate more like normal.

+1 funny point for GJ!
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May 13th, 2016 at 6:26:35 PM permalink
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh, cat's are still gettin the gavel all over the joint, hey hey.
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May 13th, 2016 at 6:47:08 PM permalink
Wow sox fan - comes back first post since last year
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May 13th, 2016 at 7:03:29 PM permalink
Hi Sox!

'Bye' Reaper. Until we cross paths again.... ;-(
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June 6th, 2016 at 9:06:05 PM permalink
I am posting here because it seems that every other threads about KJ has been closed and the Wizard will only allow any posting relating to KJ or the other forum in this thread.
I get that Boz may have ruffled some feathers with his comment "that Larry and Freddy may be right." If the W feels that he has suffered a personal insult then I understand the suspension. But for him to add "feel free to not come back" IMO was a bit much.
I am a relatively new poster here and I also belong to other sites. I read the posts from both and so far have not made any judgment because it seems that there are two sides to the stories. The consensus is that this site has seen a decline in it's traffic/visitors. What is the benefit of suspending posters at "the drop of a hat" or hinting that certain posters are not welcome back?
I joined this forum to learn about the different games, how to and the best way to play them, and maybe seek advises from the more knowledgeable posters. Unfortunately everything that I have read and gleaned so far have only led me to the conclusion: Tread lightly.
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June 6th, 2016 at 9:53:10 PM permalink
Lesson one for internet forums- Dont be a dick.
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June 6th, 2016 at 9:59:16 PM permalink
I did not think that Boz' post was that bad. He insinuated that some posters on the other forums could have been right, but unless the W have been reading their rants over there how would he know?
Can you use the word "dick" on this board and not get suspended?
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June 6th, 2016 at 10:57:11 PM permalink
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June 6th, 2016 at 11:41:08 PM permalink
I have spoken with norm via email and I am deeply troubled. BY what he claims in that email-
Let me say this again. DEEPLY TROUBLED
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June 7th, 2016 at 1:57:52 AM permalink
So after noting the remark two above, I went looking around a little for the ghost of Stalin. I must not have the right kind of special glasses needed to see it. I see multiple duplicative threads closed and redirected to the established one already existing for the purpose, and find that someone who is generally in a state of suspension involving some random highly lubricated outburst or another is suspended. And if there is something that wouldn't fit in the "today is Tuesday" file, I missed it, and the shadow of Uncle Joe seems pretty well hidden to my decrepit eyes. But maybe I just wasn't wanting to find the late Mr. Joe S. badly enough to start seeing him lurking about; perhaps the trick is to squint harder or something like that. Good luck to those who find him, and warn him for me that the Seafood Buffet at Rio isn't really worth it.
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June 7th, 2016 at 3:49:38 AM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

I have spoken with norm via email and I am deeply troubled. BY what he claims in that email-
Let me say this again. DEEPLY TROUBLED



Why even bring it up? Why even contact the man responsible for all this? Why, when you go to that other site, do you not address the other mans issues but resort to profanity? Everyone here walks on eggshells.
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June 7th, 2016 at 4:22:14 AM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

I have spoken with norm via email and I am deeply troubled. BY what he claims in that email-
Let me say this again. DEEPLY TROUBLED

Hi WoV. kJ posted an email address. Have you reached out to him to compare the two sides of the story? I guess it's possible that both sides will just say the other is lying, or at least exaggerating.

kJ's posts have been surprisingly bitter, at least surprising to me, but he hasn't come off like a total nutjob. Unlike some others, cough, cough.
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June 7th, 2016 at 5:23:01 AM permalink
Yes I spoke to kj as well via email and judging on the two sides I would say nothing norm pressed the issue and is 72.8 percent at fault kj 23.2 and Mike 4 percent
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June 7th, 2016 at 7:02:56 AM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

Yes I spoke to kj as well via email and judging on the two sides I would say nothing norm pressed the issue and is 72.8 percent at fault kj 23.2 and Mike 4 percent



What about the other 9900%?
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