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Quote: SOOPOOQuote: billryanQuote: SOOPOOFinally had a good night. Judge boosted HR bet. And also Soto boosted HR bet. Soto was over 4-1 which was juicy.
It’s interesting how one site might suck on SGP’s, but be better on golf. Another might suck on HR odds, but take less juice on tennis.
Needed at big underdog today. So taking a flyer on Nationals/under. Boosted got it up to +900 or so. (Need Nats to score at least 3 as well).
White Sox has an interim manager. Intentionally walked Soto to get to …. Aaron Judge! I think I fire him on the spot. I said so before….. Judge homered….
These guys just overthink this ‘lefty/righties’ stuff.
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Do you pitch to the guy with four home runs and two doubles in the last two games or walk him to get to Judge? There is no right answer, although I imagine Sizemore won't try that experiment again.
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I pitch to Soto. But of course not happily! Judge was hot as well, just walks, singles, and doubles.
Soto making himself a lot of $$$$$$ for next contract!
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I'd have walked both. Years ago, I was at a Little League Tournament in Mineola. A team was winning around 6-0 when the opponents got two men on base in front of the two best players in the tournament. The coach intentionally walked both of them, forcing in a run but it worked when the next guy made an out.
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Needed at big underdog today. So taking a flyer on Nationals/under. Boosted got it up to +900 or so. (Need Nats to score at least 3 as well).
If it wasn’t for the 9 early runs the Phillies scored I’d have been right in the mix.
I'll try on another prop
Cubs over 4.5 runs +105 on DraftKings
they average 4.22 runs per game
the Jays Chris Bassitt got bombed last time out and in his last 5 games he's allowed 22 runs in 26 innings pitched
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I'll try on another prop
Cubs over 4.5 runs +105 on DraftKings
they average 4.22 runs per game
the Jays Chris Bassitt got bombed last time out and in his last 5 games he's allowed 22 runs in 26 innings pitched
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Bad news for you. Cubs is my best bet of the night.
On a more serious note, it appears that when I think a line is ‘wrong’, what’s probably wrong is my assessment.
I think I’m going back to my initial tack.
I look at all 5 sites. And whatever site I need to bet on to take advantage of a bonus or boost, I bet the game with best odds relative to the other sites.
As an example, if 4 sites have a team at +150 but the site I need has it at +160, I’ll take it.
tanked yesterday -
no problem
I'll go with the ole martingale - double up and get ahead
just kidding
Jake Burger - Marlins - over 1.5 hits, runs and rbis - 125 DraftKings
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If this was the middle of the season I would be firing hard on it getting an extra 4 points. Since it is week 1 and I did very little research I will just sit on it.
some excitement coming tomorrow in horse racing which is in decline and badly needs some excitement
Thorpedo Anna is a fabulous 3 year old filly who was won 4 graded stakes in a row - 3 of them grade 1s - she will try to be the first filly since 1915, more than 100 years ago, to win the Travers stakes
she's 3/1 on the morning line and has some tough competition
at 1.25 miles it will be tough for her to win - farther by 1/8th then she's ever gone before
I will make a wimpy Place bet on Dornach who won the Belmont Stakes at 1.25 miles (shortened by .25 miles because it had to be run at Saratoga)
I expect Thorpedo Anna to be overbet by the public because she's a filly - prices on others in the money may be better because of that - especially if she's out of the money
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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/23/business/travers-stakes-thorpedo-anna.html
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where's Soopoo______?
he hasn't posted in about a week
he usually posts almost every day - his picks
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where's Soopoo______?
he hasn't posted in about a week
he usually posts almost every day - his picks
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I’m here. Plodding along. Been making $$ on Judge. But overall my baseball picks have been dismal. Do have one good golf pick cooking. After round 1 got Bradley as top American around +400. Also after Scott finished up I have him to win at +225. And won (minimal) on him to lead after 2nd round at -5000. Bradley had a chance to beat him but faded last few holes.
Baseball best bet today is Cubs/Marlins under 8.5.
I got Del St under 56.5. And also over 55.5. Both boosted so win a few dollars any result. But if exactly 56 I win enough to …. pay for nice dinner with wifey.
Quote: odiousgambitafter a dismal period of 'meh' offers, seems to me DK and Betrivers are cranking it up for football. Those are my two now for online sportsbook.
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I am not getting any promos yet for football, I was expecting them this weekend. I am only with Hard Rock Bet.
BetRivers has also improved A LOT as of late. Parlay insurance for WNBA, MLB, and EPL. Very easy to make +EV.
I’ve made VERY FEW tier credits on Caesars this year. At least next few days they are giving 10x tier credits. I’m using Caesars -EV bets as my hedge for all my +EV bets on the other sites.
In the middle of all this they did give me a free birthday bet!
Quote: SOOPOOOh well. BetRivers has ended my gravy train from them. I have now been limited to TWENTY FIVE CENTS for any of their house specials. And if I have a profit boost with a $50 max it will tell me…. $12 max, unless you submit for manual review. And they of course deny any bet sent for manual review. Also the slew of ‘parlay insurance’ offers all disappeared in one day. So I probably went from an EV of $25 a day to maybe $2 a day. I did have a customer support interaction where they obviously just tell the agent to lie. There was a lot more to it, but the most egregious lie was this…. I was denied a $1 bet to win $1.60. On a major event. They allowed me to bet a quarter to win 40 cents. The agent said ‘the Sportsbook sometimes wants to limit the action on certain bets’. Which is of course a euphemism for ‘we notice you have consistently beaten us month after month for the past two years’.
In the middle of all this they did give me a free birthday bet!
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Happy Birthday!
Quote: SOOPOOOh well. BetRivers has ended my gravy train from them. I have now been limited to TWENTY FIVE CENTS for any of their house specials. And if I have a profit boost with a $50 max it will tell me…. $12 max, unless you submit for manual review. And they of course deny any bet sent for manual review. Also the slew of ‘parlay insurance’ offers all disappeared in one day. So I probably went from an EV of $25 a day to maybe $2 a day. I did have a customer support interaction where they obviously just tell the agent to lie. There was a lot more to it, but the most egregious lie was this…. I was denied a $1 bet to win $1.60. On a major event. They allowed me to bet a quarter to win 40 cents. The agent said ‘the Sportsbook sometimes wants to limit the action on certain bets’. Which is of course a euphemism for ‘we notice you have consistently beaten us month after month for the past two years’.
In the middle of all this they did give me a free birthday bet!
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Does it really matter if your EV has gone from $25 a day to $2? You aren't doing it for the money.
Quote: billryanQuote: SOOPOOOh well. BetRivers has ended my gravy train from them. I have now been limited to TWENTY FIVE CENTS for any of their house specials. And if I have a profit boost with a $50 max it will tell me…. $12 max, unless you submit for manual review. And they of course deny any bet sent for manual review. Also the slew of ‘parlay insurance’ offers all disappeared in one day. So I probably went from an EV of $25 a day to maybe $2 a day. I did have a customer support interaction where they obviously just tell the agent to lie. There was a lot more to it, but the most egregious lie was this…. I was denied a $1 bet to win $1.60. On a major event. They allowed me to bet a quarter to win 40 cents. The agent said ‘the Sportsbook sometimes wants to limit the action on certain bets’. Which is of course a euphemism for ‘we notice you have consistently beaten us month after month for the past two years’.
In the middle of all this they did give me a free birthday bet!
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Does it really matter if your EV has gone from $25 a day to $2? You aren't doing it for the money.
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Yes and no. I won’t go broke without the BR money, but I really enjoyed it. At $2 a day I won’t enjoy it nearly as much. I can’t blame them. I, for whatever reason, just wish they would be honest! Just say we will not accept any players that play with an edge on us.
Soopoo - just curious if you don't mind my asking - is this kind of thing happening at other books too_____?
I'm referring to your experience with BetRivers that you detailed just above
and were you giving BetRivers significant action outside of the Bonus and free play stuff____?
thanks
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I was wondering about DK but right now I'm getting good action now that football season has started
Betrivers, just not sure about where it's going to go with them. I do get offers
Caesars I just thought was a lousy site
Single Rejected
Qualifying Winner: Reddick, Tyler (Winner)
Qualifying: Cook Out Southern 500
Odds: +325 (+488) Profit Boost
Wager: $100.00
I am not going to bother placing a $1.70 bet even at boosted odds. Sports are less than 1% of my promo value, so it is no big deal. Still, it is an indication that the promo departments are cutting back hard. I have been seeing a sharp decrease in quality and frequency of offers on the casino side, too.
Quote: MentalI was on vacation for three weeks, so I was late seeing what SOOPOO reported. When I came back, BetRivers started limiting the maximum bet for my promo bets. I often get 50% odds boosts for use on major league sports, UFC, and auto sports. These are nominally $50 or $100 bets. When I tried to place a $100 boosted bet on NASCAR yesterday, the app said I was preapproved for a $1.70 max bet. I had an option to ask for the whole $100 bet to be approved manually. My bet was rejected in its entirety:
Single Rejected
Qualifying Winner: Reddick, Tyler (Winner)
Qualifying: Cook Out Southern 500
Odds: +325 (+488) Profit Boost
Wager: $100.00
I am not going to bother placing a $1.70 bet even at boosted odds. Sports are less than 1% of my promo value, so it is no big deal. Still, it is an indication that the promo departments are cutting back hard. I have been seeing a sharp decrease in quality and frequency of offers on the casino side, too.
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for others too
do they limit or restrict your bets in any way if you're not getting an odds boost or bonus or any kind of free play____________?
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GB Packers Moneyline GB Packers vs PHI Eagles +125
Your wager of $100.00 needs approval. The highest pre-approved wager is $33.26.
1) Place pre-approved wager $33.26
2) Place $33.26 and send $66.74 for approval *
3) Send entire wager of $100.00 for approval *
For the spread, I was pre-approved for a wager of $50.09. The next thing you know, I will need preapproval for all my slot bets. I have won a lot of money on the slot side at BR, but I never bet or won much at the BR sports book.
Quote: MentalI was given three choices for this $100 money line wager.
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GB Packers Moneyline GB Packers vs PHI Eagles +125
Your wager of $100.00 needs approval. The highest pre-approved wager is $33.26.
1) Place pre-approved wager $33.26
2) Place $33.26 and send $66.74 for approval *
3) Send entire wager of $100.00 for approval *
For the spread, I was pre-approved for a wager of $50.09. The next thing you know, I will need preapproval for all my slot bets. I have won a lot of money on the slot side at BR, but I never bet or won much at the BR sports book.
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based on this, assuming all or many legal online sports books operate this way then it appears that nobody could really make serious money with them
it looks like they're only good for entertainment value
I don't know for sure but I would guess they don't limit sports bets for individuals at b&m casinos in LV
on second thought - maybe they do - idk
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I did great on the Tour Championship. Basically had Theegala top 5, him to beat Schaufelle today, also had Im to win matchups today as an underdog also. And of course had Scheffler to win early on at plus odds boosted.
My (probably -EV) bet that I made was on the Bills to win 4 (or more) out of their 6 division games. 2-0 against Pats, 2-2 against Jets/Dolphins makes it a win.
When all these outfits get AI involved in doing analysis, anybody playing offers the smart way is doomedQuote: SOOPOOSo it looks like BetRivers must have done an analysis of who is betting them with boosts or promos, and just ended them.
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I would guess you got a BetRivers human looking into your record, since others are not reporting a problem. They seem lukewarm towards me, but offers are still coming
as far as AI, it's not just the "intelligence" that's needed, it's the ability to go through all the noise that someone's record contains and analyze. The cost to do it with humans is out of the question I think
Quote: odiousgambitThe cost to do it with humans is out of the question I think
Not if they would hire me. Eliminating my account saves them let’s say $10k a year. I could spot ‘me’ and others like me in a few minutes. Of course I’d have to look at maybe dozens to spot one ‘me’. No way to know for sure of course, but I’d have to imagine I’d find one or two ‘like me’ per hour. Maybe save them $100k for a day’s work. Maybe more. They know exactly how much I’ve won from them this year. Just send me all winners of over $1,000, say. I could clean the ‘like me’ crowd out in no time.
My LONGSHOT pick of the day is Brewers -2.5/over 8. Boosted to +532. I think it’s + EV but no way to really tell.
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My LONGSHOT pick of the day is Brewers -2.5/over 8. Boosted to +532. I think it’s + EV but no way to really tell.
That sounds like +EV to me.
Quote: SOOPOOLots of offers today! College football (even though only one game!), US Open, MLB, and NFL. I’m doing it differently today. Giving up a bunch of EV to lock in wins. Plus getting decent money in on a site I’d like to bump up my ‘status’. Example is I have a $50 bet to pay $117 on a baseball under. And on the other site the over. $60 to pay $113. The first bet is boosted, the second bet is -EV. I either win $7 or $3. I have I think 5 such bets. One is a big dog, $50 to pay $416. So the other side is $360 to pay $413. Win $6 or $3. But I have the -EV second bet which shows me making a ‘stupid’ $360 bet. Maybe that gives me longevity there? (The underdog bet is boosted, of course).
My LONGSHOT pick of the day is Brewers -2.5/over 8. Boosted to +532. I think it’s + EV but no way to really tell.
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Hope you made money on the BC-FSU game! Go Eagles!
Quote: GenoDRPhQuote: SOOPOOLots of offers today! College football (even though only one game!), US Open, MLB, and NFL. I’m doing it differently today. Giving up a bunch of EV to lock in wins. Plus getting decent money in on a site I’d like to bump up my ‘status’. Example is I have a $50 bet to pay $117 on a baseball under. And on the other site the over. $60 to pay $113. The first bet is boosted, the second bet is -EV. I either win $7 or $3. I have I think 5 such bets. One is a big dog, $50 to pay $416. So the other side is $360 to pay $413. Win $6 or $3. But I have the -EV second bet which shows me making a ‘stupid’ $360 bet. Maybe that gives me longevity there? (The underdog bet is boosted, of course).
My LONGSHOT pick of the day is Brewers -2.5/over 8. Boosted to +532. I think it’s + EV but no way to really tell.
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Hope you made money on the BC-FSU game! Go Eagles!
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Made a total of $9. $6 as listed above and $3 on a similar play.
But did hit my Brewers game for around $266.
I have Duke over 35.5 and Duke under 37. I make $5 or so no matter which hits. If it’s exactly 36 I can retire (again). Do very well on 37 too.
To night parlayed both Mets and Red Sox pitchers under 5.5 K’s. They combined for 19….
Kinda feel sad…. Withdrew $$$$ from BetRivers account today. No reason to keep much $$$ there as my bets are now limited to paltry amounts. The funny thing is they have these ‘specials’. Very few are actually +EV. But I’m automatically throttled on those to less than a dollar.
NFL picks - first 2 weeks - all underdogs ats_______it's that time____the season starts tomorrow
I surmised that the first 2 weeks would be very unpredictable and that unpredictability would favor the underdogs
I have now tracked the first 2 weeks of 11 seasons - about 350 games - and the dogs have won just over 57% for about a 9% r.o.i. (pushes not considered)
in the 11 years I tracked the faves have never had a winning year - they did tie one year which caused a slight loss due to the vig
this is related to the Wizard's tracking of thousands of games and showing all underdogs losing only a tiny % and road dogs being slightly profitable - see link
my goal was to improve on that r.o.i. with selectivity
a couple of people at another forum made $ with this last season when I first posted it
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https://wizardofodds.com/games/sports-betting/nfl/
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Kinda feel sad…. Withdrew $$$$ from BetRivers account today. No reason to keep much $$$ there as my bets are now limited to paltry amounts. The funny thing is they have these ‘specials’. Very few are actually +EV. But I’m automatically throttled on those to less than a dollar.
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https://seekingalpha.com/news/4146129-nfl-preview-draftkings-fanduel-fanatics-betmgm-and-espn-bet-are-in-the-spotlight?mailingid=36609049&messageid=2900&serial=36609049.8058&source=email_2900&utm_campaign=rta-stock-news&utm_content=link-3&utm_medium=email&utm_source=seeking_alpha&utm_term=36609049.8058
Quote:Fanatics and Rush Street Interactive (RSI) are also scrapping for market share.
I would say that RSI has given up the fight. Caesars is having a surprisingly hard time getting traction, but then their customer base is largely US.
There is a mention of AI used by betting platforms:
Quote:The deal is seen allowing for the integration of Simplebet's proprietary machine-learning models into DraftKings' (DKNG) best-in-class pricing and technology platform to create "highly accurate betting opportunities" during every moment of a game.
FD has one live game now, a European women’s soccer game. The favorite is winning 6-0 with 30 minutes to go. They are not allowing bets on the favorite, but will take bets on ‘tie’ or on the losing team. At only 100-1.
I feel that the books should offer both sides or none at all. The 100-1 is just a way to take money from a naive customer with no risk at all. I am not against the casino having an advantage, but I think offering an odds as low as 100-1 on a less than 1 in billion chance is ‘predatory’.
But I do see the other side…. no one is forcing the sap to bet, and the score is shown and the odds are clear.
I like lilRed’s plan on his taking the dogs early on. Not saying it will work….
My one ‘analysis’ of an NFL game….
NFL teams have ‘position groups’ that they try to upgrade each offseason via the draft, trade, or free agency.
The Bills have, in my opinion, upgraded NONE. That’s actually very hard to do. They lost their starting center and just moved a guard over. They lost their top two wide receivers and signed other team’s rejects. They lost their best defensive lineman from last year. Their best linebacker is probably out for the season. They lost their best cornerback, as well as both starting safeties. Unless you are an avid NFL fan, you can’t name any of the potential replacements.
They do have Josh Allen, who by himself can change the outcome of a game the Bill’s way. But you have to really be wearing rose colored glasses to think the Bills will be as good as they were last year.
I’m taking Cardinals plus the points in week 1.
That all being said, I did make (-EV) bet on Bills to win at least 4 division games. My other analysis is that the Jets are OVERRATED! I’m in the ‘Rodgers is old coming off a serious injury’ camp.
When the odds are so skewed, it can feel predatory, especially if the book isn't transparent about the actual chances of a win. It's important for customers to feel like they’re getting a fair opportunity, and not just being set up to lose.
Ultimately, I think this boils down to ethical responsibility. Casinos and sportsbooks should offer odds that are fair, or at least reflective of the actual chances, so players feel they have a legitimate shot.
Thanks for bringing this up — it’s definitely an important discussion for anyone who enjoys sports betting!
Quote: SOOPOOI am torn about my feelings on this….
FD has one live game now, a European women’s soccer game. The favorite is winning 6-0 with 30 minutes to go. They are not allowing bets on the favorite, but will take bets on ‘tie’ or on the losing team. At only 100-1.
I feel that the books should offer both sides or none at all. The 100-1 is just a way to take money from a naive customer with no risk at all. I am not against the casino having an advantage, but I think offering an odds as low as 100-1 on a less than 1 in billion chance is ‘predatory’.
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I wonder what the fair odd were on this bet and what the effective vigorish was.
Slots have to have a minimum 83% RTP in many states, minimum 85% in Pennsylvania, and minimum 90% in Perth.
The true RTP on this bet is certainly lower than that. The RTP on many multi-leg parlays, prop bets, and futures bets is lower than a one-arm bandit is allowed to return, and most slots return more than 88%.
None of this is disclosed. Nobody was forcing punters to bet good money on a 100-1 bet that had almost no chance of winning. But the sports books are not forced to disclose their target vigorish. There is no objective way to calculate the vig, but the books know what their historical RTP is on their most profitable classes of bets.
I think state regulators should force the sports books to disclose this information the way they do for slots. The vig on some of the bets are criminal.
Quote: MentalThe vig on some of the bets are criminal.
The vig on that particular bet would be 99.9+ %. I don’t know how many more 9’s to add.
The word ‘criminal’ has many connotations. If you mean actually against some sort of law, you should be able to state which one. If you really mean ‘unethical’ or ‘predatory’ or ‘disgusting’ I of course agree with you.
Quote: SOOPOOI am torn about my feelings on this….
FD has one live game now, a European women’s soccer game. The favorite is winning 6-0 with 30 minutes to go. They are not allowing bets on the favorite, but will take bets on ‘tie’ or on the losing team. At only 100-1.
At one point I wanted to petition the Nevada Gaming Control Board to make a change so in sports betting if a bet is available on one side it must be available on the other.
I can't remember if I took all road dogs for the first 2 weeks period, or all road dogs getting +4.5 or less? Am I merging 2 separate systems? Whatever it was, I did do well.Quote: lilredrooster.
NFL picks - first 2 weeks - all underdogs ats_______it's that time____the season starts tomorrow
I surmised that the first 2 weeks would be very unpredictable and that unpredictability would favor the underdogs
I have now tracked the first 2 weeks of 11 seasons - about 350 games - and the dogs have won just over 57% for about a 9% r.o.i. (pushes not considered)
in the 11 years I tracked the faves have never had a winning year - they did tie one year which caused a slight loss due to the vig
this is related to the Wizard's tracking of thousands of games and showing all underdogs losing only a tiny % and road dogs being slightly profitable - see link
my goal was to improve on that r.o.i. with selectivity
a couple of people at another forum made $ with this last season when I first posted it
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https://wizardofodds.com/games/sports-betting/nfl/
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Quote: AxelWolfI can't remember if I took all road dogs for the first 2 weeks period, or all road dogs getting +4.5 or less? Am I merging 2 separate systems? Whatever it was, I did do well.Quote: lilredrooster.
NFL picks - first 2 weeks - all underdogs ats_______it's that time____the season starts tomorrow
I surmised that the first 2 weeks would be very unpredictable and that unpredictability would favor the underdogs
I have now tracked the first 2 weeks of 11 seasons - about 350 games - and the dogs have won just over 57% for about a 9% r.o.i. (pushes not considered)
in the 11 years I tracked the faves have never had a winning year - they did tie one year which caused a slight loss due to the vig
this is related to the Wizard's tracking of thousands of games and showing all underdogs losing only a tiny % and road dogs being slightly profitable - see link
my goal was to improve on that r.o.i. with selectivity
a couple of people at another forum made $ with this last season when I first posted it
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https://wizardofodds.com/games/sports-betting/nfl/
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it was a totally different tracking and it was not the first 2 weeks - and it was road dogs who got 4 points OR LESS for the entire seasons - see link
I tracked 4 seasons - they went 159 - 117_________57.6% winners - pushes not considered
again Mike tracked thousands of games for ALL road dogs and showed them winning with an r.o.i. of 2.57%
this is a different tracking of about 350 games - and it's ALL underdogs but only for the first 2 weeks
I've done so many trackings I actually forgot about this one and had to look it up - but that's no excuse - I shouldn't have forgotten about it
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/sports/36563-beat-the-nfl-spread/
GoodQuote: lilredroosterQuote: AxelWolfI can't remember if I took all road dogs for the first 2 weeks period, or all road dogs getting +4.5 or less? Am I merging 2 separate systems? Whatever it was, I did do well.Quote: lilredrooster.
NFL picks - first 2 weeks - all underdogs ats_______it's that time____the season starts tomorrow
I surmised that the first 2 weeks would be very unpredictable and that unpredictability would favor the underdogs
I have now tracked the first 2 weeks of 11 seasons - about 350 games - and the dogs have won just over 57% for about a 9% r.o.i. (pushes not considered)
in the 11 years I tracked the faves have never had a winning year - they did tie one year which caused a slight loss due to the vig
this is related to the Wizard's tracking of thousands of games and showing all underdogs losing only a tiny % and road dogs being slightly profitable - see link
my goal was to improve on that r.o.i. with selectivity
a couple of people at another forum made $ with this last season when I first posted it
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https://wizardofodds.com/games/sports-betting/nfl/
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it was a totally different tracking and it was not the first 2 weeks - and it was road dogs who got 4 points OR LESS for the entire seasons - see link
I tracked 4 seasons - they went 159 - 117_________57.6% winners - pushes not considered
again Mike tracked thousands of games for ALL road dogs and showed them winning with an r.o.i. of 2.57%
this is a different tracking of about 350 games - and it's ALL underdogs but only for the first 2 weeks
I've done so many trackings I actually forgot about this one and had to look it up - but that's no excuse - I shouldn't have forgotten about it
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/sports/36563-beat-the-nfl-spread/
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stuff, good stuff. Thanx for the clarification.
-$2,200 for last night's game. Unfortunately, No one factored in KC's best player....
Talor Swift
Today FD is letting me bet $20 at +115 on Barkley/Jacob’s to combine for 120. Their fair O/Us are 65.5 and 62.5. So 128. Interestingly, I think their total correlates TOWARDS the 128 number. If one team is ahead they will tend to run more, but the trailing team will tend to run less. I think fair odds would be -130 or so.
To night is my ‘big’ Duke combo that I clean up on exactly 36 or 37. Similar if exactly 49 on Eagles game.
I have a bet I’m hoping to lose! Basically it’s Sabalenka over Pegula in a few parlays! I think Pegula represents Buffalo very well!
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I have a bet I’m hoping to lose! Basically it’s Sabalenka over Pegula in a few parlays! I think Pegula represents Buffalo very well!
I don't know that I have ever made a bet that I hope loses unless, of course, if I made a bigger bet on the other side.
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I have a bet I’m hoping to lose! Basically it’s Sabalenka over Pegula in a few parlays! I think Pegula represents Buffalo very well!
I don't know that I have ever made a bet that I hope loses unless, of course, if I made a bigger bet on the other side.
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I separate the ‘business’ of my sports betting from the ‘fun’ of rooting for teams or players I like.
I often hope to lose golf bets. If I make a par but one of my buddies has a birdie putt to beat me I will always root for him to make it.
Barkley/Jacob’s bet hit already. Still 13 minutes to go…
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Barkley/Jacob’s bet hit already. Still 13 minutes to go…
Barkley looked very good.
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Barkley/Jacob’s bet hit already. Still 13 minutes to go…
Barkley looked very good.
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I think he might be the first big Free Agent a team I follow has lost in a long time. I was blindsided by his decision to jump ship like that and thrilled that his new career had started with him losing five yards on his first carry. I hope he stays healthy and the team collapses around him, but that's not very likely.
