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September 10th, 2023 at 4:15:47 PM
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Quote: DRichQuote: lilredrooster.
Joshua Dobbs, the Cardinals starting QB was really terrible
a couple of fumbles and no TDs
just 132 yards in the air
they still only lost by 4 thanks to their defense - they were 7 point dogs
the Commanders and their fans looked really pumped up by the win but they shouldn't be
they beat a really bad team
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Josh has not looked good since his last year at Tennessee.
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The Ariz Cardinals appear to be tanking for the #1 draft pick position in 2024 and they are currently regarded as having the weakest roster in the NFL. So, Josh Dobbs was playing behind what is arguably the worst offensive line in the NFL, with not much talent at WR and RB. He joined the Cardinals only one week ago; he's super-smart but that's all the prep time he had: about 8 days. I just hate that his only playing time comes in these kind of extremely difficult situations. Last year, he was signed by the Titans one week before their game #17. Dobbs started that game - in which they (the Titans) rested Derek Henry and most of their stars. The guy may not have NFL starter ability but he has been very unlucky in the opportunities he has been given.
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September 14th, 2023 at 2:00:33 AM
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a 1 point safety - very unusual play in college football from 10 years ago in the Fiesta Bowl
Oregon vs. Kansas State - the ref explains it
a 1 point safety - very unusual play in college football from 10 years ago in the Fiesta Bowl
Oregon vs. Kansas State - the ref explains it
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September 14th, 2023 at 6:02:53 AM
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Quote: lilredrooster.
a 1 point safety - very unusual play in college football from 10 years ago in the Fiesta Bowl
Oregon vs. Kansas State - the ref explains it
It still has not ever happened in an NFL game. I would like to see the sportsbooks put up odds for it happening in a game. i would probably make a small wager on it just for fun.
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September 14th, 2023 at 7:44:41 AM
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Quote: DRichQuote: lilredrooster.
a 1 point safety - very unusual play in college football from 10 years ago in the Fiesta Bowl
Oregon vs. Kansas State - the ref explains it
It still has not ever happened in an NFL game. I would like to see the sportsbooks put up odds for it happening in a game. i would probably make a small wager on it just for fun.
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another very odd one
blocked extra point returned by the opposing team into the end zone
2 points
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September 14th, 2023 at 7:50:53 AM
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Probably the best football game each of the next two nights are military academies.
Tonight Navy plays Memphis at 7pm and tomorrow Army plays UTSA. I will be watching both of them.
Tonight Navy plays Memphis at 7pm and tomorrow Army plays UTSA. I will be watching both of them.
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September 14th, 2023 at 10:00:59 AM
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Quote: lilredroosterQuote: DRichQuote: lilredrooster.
a 1 point safety - very unusual play in college football from 10 years ago in the Fiesta Bowl
Oregon vs. Kansas State - the ref explains it
It still has not ever happened in an NFL game. I would like to see the sportsbooks put up odds for it happening in a game. i would probably make a small wager on it just for fun.
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another very odd one
I intercepted a swing pass on a two-point conversion in high school, which I thought ended the play. However, no whistle blew so I took off towards the endzone some 99 yards away. I was sprinting for the first 50 yards and was blown out long before the finish. I looked for someone to hand it to and realized everyone was back at the goal line. I stopped, but one assistant coach kept screaming to keep going. I stumbled into the endzone and collapsed. I'm lying there thinking how stupid I must look when our 300-pound nose guard comes along and dives on me.
I still think it should have counted as a touchdown,The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
September 14th, 2023 at 1:52:16 PM
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another very odd one
blocked extra point returned by the opposing team into the end zone
2 points
the NFL didn't allow it until 2015 when they changed the rule
from Wiki:
"The NFL originally had no provision for defensive two-point conversions, and its rules used to state that a conversion was automatically blown dead and ruled as "no good" as soon as the defense gained possession of the ball. On May 19, 2015, the NFL owners adopted a proposal to permit a defensive two-point conversion for the 2015 season. On May 20, 2016, the owners adopted a further proposal called the two-point fair-play rule: this prevents the defense from getting a turnover during a 2-point conversion and then intentionally committing a foul to increase their chance at a 2-point return. If the defense gains a turnover and then commits a foul, the offense coach will have the option to accept the penalty and skip the kickoff. It has not yet been enforced in the NFL, but a similar rule has been enforced on two occasions in the CFL.
(can you believe it________?__________a rule that has never been enforced in the NFL)
Stephone Anthony of the New Orleans Saints became the first NFL player to score a defensive two-point conversion, returning a blocked extra-point kick from Graham Gano of the Carolina Panthers on December 6, 2015. On December 4, 2016, Eric Berry of the Kansas City Chiefs became the first NFL player to return an interception for a defensive two-point conversion, which was thrown by quarterback Matt Ryan of the Atlanta Falcons."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-point_conversion#:~:text=After%20the%20NFL%20merged%20with,25%20years%20after%20the%20merger.
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blocked extra point returned by the opposing team into the end zone
2 points
the NFL didn't allow it until 2015 when they changed the rule
from Wiki:
"The NFL originally had no provision for defensive two-point conversions, and its rules used to state that a conversion was automatically blown dead and ruled as "no good" as soon as the defense gained possession of the ball. On May 19, 2015, the NFL owners adopted a proposal to permit a defensive two-point conversion for the 2015 season. On May 20, 2016, the owners adopted a further proposal called the two-point fair-play rule: this prevents the defense from getting a turnover during a 2-point conversion and then intentionally committing a foul to increase their chance at a 2-point return. If the defense gains a turnover and then commits a foul, the offense coach will have the option to accept the penalty and skip the kickoff. It has not yet been enforced in the NFL, but a similar rule has been enforced on two occasions in the CFL.
(can you believe it________?__________a rule that has never been enforced in the NFL)
Stephone Anthony of the New Orleans Saints became the first NFL player to score a defensive two-point conversion, returning a blocked extra-point kick from Graham Gano of the Carolina Panthers on December 6, 2015. On December 4, 2016, Eric Berry of the Kansas City Chiefs became the first NFL player to return an interception for a defensive two-point conversion, which was thrown by quarterback Matt Ryan of the Atlanta Falcons."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-point_conversion#:~:text=After%20the%20NFL%20merged%20with,25%20years%20after%20the%20merger.
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September 14th, 2023 at 4:09:18 PM
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A college team lines up for a two-point conversion and throws a pass that is intercepted. The defender runs the ball out and is hit at the five-yard line, but fumbles. The ball bounces to the kicker, who lobs it into the endzone, where his center comes down with it.
Is it another touchdown?
A successful 2 PAT?
A blown PAT?
Is it another touchdown?
A successful 2 PAT?
A blown PAT?
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September 14th, 2023 at 4:45:19 PM
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Quote: billryanA college team lines up for a two-point conversion and throws a pass that is intercepted. The defender runs the ball out and is hit at the five-yard line, but fumbles. The ball bounces to the kicker, who lobs it into the endzone, where his center comes down with it.
Is it another touchdown?
A successful 2 PAT?
A blown PAT?
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I would say a blown PAT because it should be a penalty for an illegal forward pass.
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September 14th, 2023 at 7:24:02 PM
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Quote: billryanA college team lines up for a two-point conversion and throws a pass that is intercepted. The defender runs the ball out and is hit at the five-yard line, but fumbles. The ball bounces to the kicker, who lobs it into the endzone, where his center comes down with it.
Is it another touchdown?
A successful 2 PAT?
A blown PAT?
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When the ball is fumbled by the defense and picked up by the Kicker, there is no active "line of scrimmage" because there have been two changes of possession. Therefore the ball can be advanced on the ground by the kicker running with it but he cannot pass it forward. A blown PAT and a penalty on the kicking team for an illegal forward pass.
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September 14th, 2023 at 7:24:25 PM
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Going with successful PAT.
Eligible receiver downfield only applies to initial touch (defender in this case). I thought the offense couldn’t advance a fumble but PAT’s may be an exception.
Eligible receiver downfield only applies to initial touch (defender in this case). I thought the offense couldn’t advance a fumble but PAT’s may be an exception.
September 14th, 2023 at 8:29:43 PM
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I think it would be a failed PAT as you can't have two forward passes on the same play, but am not sure.
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September 15th, 2023 at 7:34:47 AM
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I will be in Augusta Georgia next week if anyone wants to play some golf.
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September 16th, 2023 at 8:12:06 AM
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The little man who could fly.
1985-1988 were the glory days of the dunk contest with young superstars Michael Jordan, 'the human highlight reel" Dominique Wilkins, and even an aging Julius Erving battling it out, stunning fans with jaw dropping feats of athleticism.
But in 1986, the 5-7 Spud Webb shocked the world by winning the dunk contest over his teammate Dominique Wilkins.
1985-1988 were the glory days of the dunk contest with young superstars Michael Jordan, 'the human highlight reel" Dominique Wilkins, and even an aging Julius Erving battling it out, stunning fans with jaw dropping feats of athleticism.
But in 1986, the 5-7 Spud Webb shocked the world by winning the dunk contest over his teammate Dominique Wilkins.
September 16th, 2023 at 8:29:48 AM
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Quote: mcallister3200The little man who could fly.
1985-1988 were the glory days of the dunk contest with young superstars Michael Jordan, 'the human highlight reel" Dominique Wilkins, and even an aging Julius Erving battling it out, stunning fans with jaw dropping feats of athleticism.
But in 1986, the 5-7 Spud Webb shocked the world by winning the dunk contest over his teammate Dominique Wilkins.
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I remember him playing at NC State and Jim Valvano gushing about this little transfer he got.
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September 16th, 2023 at 9:04:29 AM
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Not a lot of great football games today. I do look forward to Tennessee vs Florida and Arkansas vs BYU.
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September 16th, 2023 at 1:31:45 PM
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Boston College almost upset # 3 Florida State - they lost by only 2 points
they were 24.5 point dogs
but they had 18 penalties for over 130 yards - a school record
the Eagles still trailed by only 3 points with the ball in the final three minutes before Kalen DeLoach sacked Thomas Castellanos on third down to stall BC’s last possession.
The Eagles would have gotten the ball back after stopping Florida State on third down, but they were called for face masking on the tackle — their 18th penalty of the game.
John Pupel was called for the face mask - he must be crying tonight
I believe BC had a ton of penalties in their first 2 games too
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Boston College almost upset # 3 Florida State - they lost by only 2 points
they were 24.5 point dogs
but they had 18 penalties for over 130 yards - a school record
the Eagles still trailed by only 3 points with the ball in the final three minutes before Kalen DeLoach sacked Thomas Castellanos on third down to stall BC’s last possession.
The Eagles would have gotten the ball back after stopping Florida State on third down, but they were called for face masking on the tackle — their 18th penalty of the game.
John Pupel was called for the face mask - he must be crying tonight
I believe BC had a ton of penalties in their first 2 games too
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September 18th, 2023 at 2:53:37 AM
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this one wins my vote for best in game dunk - Scotty Pippen over Pat Ewing - best I can recall anyway
maybe Mac can post a better one
not many ballers dunked on Ewing -
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this one wins my vote for best in game dunk - Scotty Pippen over Pat Ewing - best I can recall anyway
maybe Mac can post a better one
not many ballers dunked on Ewing -
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September 18th, 2023 at 5:53:47 AM
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Quote: lilredrooster.
this one wins my vote for best in game dunk - Scotty Pippen over Pat Ewing - best I can recall anyway
maybe Mac can post a better one
not many ballers dunked on Ewing -
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Thanks for the setup, feels like you threw an alley oop I'm going to dunk.
Pippen's dunk was ranked the "most disrespectful dunk of all time" in a book, missing from that vid is him walking over to Spike Lee (who's calling for a foul) and telling him to "sit your ass down."
Don't know how you can choose just one or two. I'm going with Vince Carter jumping over 7'2 lottery pick Fredric Weis in the Olympics and an old school guy, Dr. J's cradle dunk.
September 18th, 2023 at 5:54:25 AM
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Quote: lilredrooster.
Boston College almost upset # 3 Florida State - they lost by only 2 points
they were 24.5 point dogs
I thought they would drop a couple of spots in the rankings after that game but they did not.
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September 18th, 2023 at 6:54:23 AM
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Quote: mcallister3200Quote: lilredrooster.
this one wins my vote for best in game dunk - Scotty Pippen over Pat Ewing - best I can recall anyway
maybe Mac can post a better one
not many ballers dunked on Ewing -
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Thanks for the setup, feels like you threw an alley oop I'm going to dunk.
Pippen's dunk was ranked the "most disrespectful dunk of all time" in a book, missing from that vid is him walking over to Spike Lee (who's calling for a foul) and telling him to "sit your ass down."
Don't know how you can choose just one or two. I'm going with Vince Carter jumping over 7'2 lottery pick Fredric Weis in the Olympics and an old school guy, Dr. J's cradle dunk.
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I believe you topped me with that Vince Carter dunk - his hops were insane
here's a still of him in the air - unreal
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September 18th, 2023 at 12:40:32 PM
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Kareem Jackson of the Broncos - 2 vicious helmet to helmet hits 2 weeks in a row - both times the player on the receiving end got a concussion
he was ejected yesterday for his hit on Logan Thomas who somehow amazingly held on to the ball for a TD
there was talk of suspending him but it didn't happen
big mistake imo - the hit on thomas - see link - was way, way over the top
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8S8Dwu5zdYQ
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Kareem Jackson of the Broncos - 2 vicious helmet to helmet hits 2 weeks in a row - both times the player on the receiving end got a concussion
he was ejected yesterday for his hit on Logan Thomas who somehow amazingly held on to the ball for a TD
there was talk of suspending him but it didn't happen
big mistake imo - the hit on thomas - see link - was way, way over the top
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8S8Dwu5zdYQ
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September 19th, 2023 at 11:38:06 AM
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Breaking down the most hyped prospect since LeBron, Victor Wembenyama. My go to site had a video featured on NBA.com.
Second video has some talk of Wilt, Kareem, evolution of big men in general.
I fear chronic foot or ankle injury issues will stop him from living up to expectations.
Second video has some talk of Wilt, Kareem, evolution of big men in general.
I fear chronic foot or ankle injury issues will stop him from living up to expectations.
September 19th, 2023 at 12:11:57 PM
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There were several fan brawls in the NFL last weekend including a Patriot fan killed by a Dolphin fan.
Have you tried 22 tonight? I said 22.
September 19th, 2023 at 12:40:21 PM
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Myrtle Brown, 73, the mother of former NFL player Sergio Brown, was found dead in a creek behind her home outside Chicago.
Her death has been ruled a homicide.
Sergio Brown is now missing - the police have not named him as a suspect. but of course, there is much speculation about this
I really hope that what seems so horrible is not really true
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Myrtle Brown, 73, the mother of former NFL player Sergio Brown, was found dead in a creek behind her home outside Chicago.
Her death has been ruled a homicide.
Sergio Brown is now missing - the police have not named him as a suspect. but of course, there is much speculation about this
I really hope that what seems so horrible is not really true
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September 24th, 2023 at 3:33:12 AM
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Chris Howell, at 17 the youngest starting college QB plays for Long Island and is attracting a lot of attention with his unique sidearm style throws
the word is he's a great all around athlete too
https://theathletic.com/4884729/2023/09/21/chris-howell-liu-quarterback-throwing-motion/
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Chris Howell, at 17 the youngest starting college QB plays for Long Island and is attracting a lot of attention with his unique sidearm style throws
the word is he's a great all around athlete too
https://theathletic.com/4884729/2023/09/21/chris-howell-liu-quarterback-throwing-motion/
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September 24th, 2023 at 4:22:27 PM
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from the article:
"Haley Van Voorhis, a safety at Division-III Shenandoah University, became the first woman non-kicker to appear in an NCAA football game on Saturday against Juniata.
She came on in the first quarter with Shenandoah already up 26 points and registered a quarterback hurry on third down.
"It's an amazing thing," Van Voorhis said after the game, according to The Washington Post. "I just wanted to get out and do my thing. I want to show other people this is what women can do, to show what I can do. It's a big moment. I made the impossible possible, and I'm excited about that."'
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38470836/haley-van-voorhis-becomes-first-female-non-kicker-play-ncaa-football-game
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from the article:
"Haley Van Voorhis, a safety at Division-III Shenandoah University, became the first woman non-kicker to appear in an NCAA football game on Saturday against Juniata.
She came on in the first quarter with Shenandoah already up 26 points and registered a quarterback hurry on third down.
"It's an amazing thing," Van Voorhis said after the game, according to The Washington Post. "I just wanted to get out and do my thing. I want to show other people this is what women can do, to show what I can do. It's a big moment. I made the impossible possible, and I'm excited about that."'
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38470836/haley-van-voorhis-becomes-first-female-non-kicker-play-ncaa-football-game
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September 24th, 2023 at 4:29:10 PM
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Quote: lilredrooster.
Chris Howell, at 17 the youngest starting college QB plays for Long Island and is attracting a lot of attention with his unique sidearm style throws
the word is he's a great all around athlete too
https://theathletic.com/4884729/2023/09/21/chris-howell-liu-quarterback-throwing-motion/
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I'm from Long Island and had no idea LIU had a football team. He has now gone viral.
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September 24th, 2023 at 5:03:15 PM
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How about the Miami Dolphins scoring 70 points with only 309 passing yards? Pretty impressive.
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September 24th, 2023 at 5:10:06 PM
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Quote: DRichHow about the Miami Dolphins scoring 70 points with only 309 passing yards? Pretty impressive.
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I definitely did a double take, score differential looks like the occasional girls high school game between wildly different talent levels in the same conference.
September 24th, 2023 at 5:10:59 PM
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Quote: DRichHow about the Miami Dolphins scoring 70 points with only 309 passing yards? Pretty impressive.
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Sean Payton deserved it.
September 24th, 2023 at 5:18:03 PM
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How about Josh Dobbs, the african-american QB with a degree in aeronautical engineering, leading the lowly, undermanned Arizona Cardinals to a 28-16 upset of the Dallas Cowboys? Dobbs was on the practice squad of the Browns last year but now reportedly he has elevated the play of all the Cardinals offensive players and even is mentioned for his impact on the play of his team's defensive players.
I think Dobbs is a sure-fire candidate to join the coaching ranks when his playing career is over. I wonder, whimsically, if he might be a long-shot candidate to replace Roger Goodell in the distant future. At least work in Goodell's office, maybe.
I think Dobbs is a sure-fire candidate to join the coaching ranks when his playing career is over. I wonder, whimsically, if he might be a long-shot candidate to replace Roger Goodell in the distant future. At least work in Goodell's office, maybe.
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September 24th, 2023 at 5:58:45 PM
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Quote: gordonm888How about Josh Dobbs, the african-american QB with a degree in aeronautical engineering, leading the lowly, undermanned Arizona Cardinals to a 28-16 upset of the Dallas Cowboys? Dobbs was on the practice squad of the Browns last year but now reportedly he has elevated the play of all the Cardinals offensive players and even is mentioned for his impact on the play of his team's defensive players.
I think Dobbs is a sure-fire candidate to join the coaching ranks when his playing career is over. I wonder, whimsically, if he might be a long-shot candidate to replace Roger Goodell in the distant future. At least work in Goodell's office, maybe.
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I’m thinking you’ve had the first 18 words of this post saved in your drafts for about three years now.
September 24th, 2023 at 6:45:31 PM
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How about the IU Akron game going 4 overtime Saturday night. It's like nobody wanted it
September 25th, 2023 at 2:35:48 AM
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not trying to spam - forgot to add pic in OP - pretty interesting to see the pic - to me anyway
Haley Van Voorhis, a safety at Division-III Shenandoah University, became the first woman non-kicker to appear in an NCAA football game on Saturday against Juniata.
she's a safety - what do you think_____?________if she gets a pick will they tackle her really hard____?___or will they go easy______?________hard to imagine
here she is:
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not trying to spam - forgot to add pic in OP - pretty interesting to see the pic - to me anyway
Haley Van Voorhis, a safety at Division-III Shenandoah University, became the first woman non-kicker to appear in an NCAA football game on Saturday against Juniata.
she's a safety - what do you think_____?________if she gets a pick will they tackle her really hard____?___or will they go easy______?________hard to imagine
here she is:
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September 25th, 2023 at 2:58:17 AM
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What team does she play for?Quote: lilredrooster.
not trying to spam - forgot to add pic in OP - pretty interesting to see the pic - to me anyway
Haley Van Voorhis, a safety at Division-III Shenandoah University, became the first woman non-kicker to appear in an NCAA football game on Saturday against Juniata.
she's a safety - what do you think_____?________if she gets a pick will they tackle her really hard____?___or will they go easy______?________hard to imagine
here she is:
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
September 25th, 2023 at 3:10:40 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfWhat team does she play for?____
Haley Van Voorhis, a safety at Division-III Shenandoah University,
Division 3 - not anywhere near as tough or as big and strong as Division 1 - but still - getting hit by a man______?_________wow
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September 25th, 2023 at 4:12:07 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfWhat team does she play for?Quote: lilredrooster.
not trying to spam - forgot to add pic in OP - pretty interesting to see the pic - to me anyway
Haley Van Voorhis, a safety at Division-III Shenandoah University, became the first woman non-kicker to appear in an NCAA football game on Saturday against Juniata.
she's a safety - what do you think_____?________if she gets a pick will they tackle her really hard____?___or will they go easy______?________hard to imagine
here she is:
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I see what you did there
September 25th, 2023 at 5:38:36 AM
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Remember the Titans.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
September 25th, 2023 at 5:55:26 AM
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Quote: lilredroosterQuote: AxelWolfWhat team does she play for?____
Haley Van Voorhis, a safety at Division-III Shenandoah University,
Division 3 - not anywhere near as tough or as big and strong as Division 1 - but still - getting hit by a man______?_________wow
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I am guessing she will be a millionaire pretty quickly. With those looks added to her accomplishment she should be getting NIL offers from a variety of different companies.
September 25th, 2023 at 6:17:57 AM
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just saw a post elsewhere, searched it out and verified it
she's 5'6" tall and 145 pounds
based on that - it looks like a gimmick - Shenandoah sure to make big $$$ with attendance and TV stuff
at that size, and as a female, I truly doubt that she is capable of handling the ordinary roughness of college football even at a low level
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just saw a post elsewhere, searched it out and verified it
she's 5'6" tall and 145 pounds
based on that - it looks like a gimmick - Shenandoah sure to make big $$$ with attendance and TV stuff
at that size, and as a female, I truly doubt that she is capable of handling the ordinary roughness of college football even at a low level
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September 25th, 2023 at 6:56:14 AM
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Her biography says she was an Honorable Mention All-State her Senior year. If that is legit, she should be able to compete in D3. I played one year of D3 for Brockport and it wasn't much better than a top HS team.
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September 25th, 2023 at 6:57:38 AM
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Happy mixtape Monday, featuring "the Cooz," Bob Cousy, and his behind the back passing. Nothing goes together like white dudes from the 50's and hip hop.
September 25th, 2023 at 7:54:34 AM
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Mac's post made if feel okay for me to go into the hoops past
most who know about Dematha H.S. hoops associate it with DC
but Dematha is actually in Hyattsville, Maryland
their Coach, Morgan Wooten, who passed 3 years ago is a legend - famous for being the only team to beat Lew Alcindor's team (Jabbar) in high school
at his basketball camp they would show the tape of that game almost every day - some YT highlights of that game are linked
but so very much more to him
from Wiki:
"He led the Stags to five national championships and 33 Washington Catholic Athletic Conference (WCAC) titles. In 2000, he was the third high school coach to be inducted into the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame and the first high school only coach to be inducted."
about this quote from Wiki - I don't think it's accurate - I don't know of any h.s. National Championship games back then - I do know that various newspapers ranked h.s. teams throughout the country and Dematha was often ranked #1
more from Wiki:
'When he retired in 2002, Wootten's career coaching record stood at 1,274-192. Wootten has the second most wins as a head coach in the history of boys high school basketball, behind Robert Hughes.
More than a dozen of Wootten's players went on to play in the NBA"
1274-192 - that's an incredible 87% wins
r.i.p. Coach
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan_Wootten
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Mac's post made if feel okay for me to go into the hoops past
most who know about Dematha H.S. hoops associate it with DC
but Dematha is actually in Hyattsville, Maryland
their Coach, Morgan Wooten, who passed 3 years ago is a legend - famous for being the only team to beat Lew Alcindor's team (Jabbar) in high school
at his basketball camp they would show the tape of that game almost every day - some YT highlights of that game are linked
but so very much more to him
from Wiki:
"He led the Stags to five national championships and 33 Washington Catholic Athletic Conference (WCAC) titles. In 2000, he was the third high school coach to be inducted into the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame and the first high school only coach to be inducted."
about this quote from Wiki - I don't think it's accurate - I don't know of any h.s. National Championship games back then - I do know that various newspapers ranked h.s. teams throughout the country and Dematha was often ranked #1
more from Wiki:
'When he retired in 2002, Wootten's career coaching record stood at 1,274-192. Wootten has the second most wins as a head coach in the history of boys high school basketball, behind Robert Hughes.
More than a dozen of Wootten's players went on to play in the NBA"
1274-192 - that's an incredible 87% wins
r.i.p. Coach
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan_Wootten
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September 25th, 2023 at 8:53:35 AM
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Bob Cousy had an unfortunate comeback in 1969/70. Several years after retiring as a player, he was coaching the Cincinnati Royals and the team was going nowhere. The owner kept pressing him to play. It would not only boost attendance, but it would save a player's salary. He reluctantly played in a few games, and in a famous moment, caused his team to lose to the Knicks when he threw away two passes with his team about to end the Knick's then-record winning streak. He retired again right afterward.
In the 1960s, a basketball player was considered old after thirty, and few players played after they turned thirty-five.
In the 1960s, a basketball player was considered old after thirty, and few players played after they turned thirty-five.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
September 25th, 2023 at 9:25:16 AM
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a really interesting question - to me anyway - is how would those greats from the 60s do in today's game
and imo - with a very few exceptions - not very well - they're just bigger, stronger, faster and jump higher now
I'll go with Wilt, Kareem, and Oscar - I think those 3 would still dominate - my pick of Oscar might surprise some - but what I saw of him - he was incredible in his prime
I'm leaving out Bill Russell because he would have faced much taller Centers
I don't think Jerry West and Elgin Baylor would dominate in today's game
I don't know how Jerry and Oscar would have done with the 3 pointer - I would guess that Jerry would do very well with it - but still would not be dominant
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a really interesting question - to me anyway - is how would those greats from the 60s do in today's game
and imo - with a very few exceptions - not very well - they're just bigger, stronger, faster and jump higher now
I'll go with Wilt, Kareem, and Oscar - I think those 3 would still dominate - my pick of Oscar might surprise some - but what I saw of him - he was incredible in his prime
I'm leaving out Bill Russell because he would have faced much taller Centers
I don't think Jerry West and Elgin Baylor would dominate in today's game
I don't know how Jerry and Oscar would have done with the 3 pointer - I would guess that Jerry would do very well with it - but still would not be dominant
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the foolish sayings of a rich man often pass for words of wisdom by the fools around him
September 25th, 2023 at 10:49:25 AM
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West was a pretty good shooter and would do well offensively but I'm not sure he'd defend so well. The game was a lot more physical back then. What was once routine elbows are now flagrant fouls. I don't think we can really compare players from the different eras. It is such a different game.
I wonder how today's players would have done in the NBA of the Sixties.
I wonder how today's players would have done in the NBA of the Sixties.
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September 25th, 2023 at 11:21:11 AM
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Quote: billryanHer biography says she was an Honorable Mention All-State her Senior year. If that is legit, she should be able to compete in D3. I played one year of D3 for Brockport and it wasn't much better than a top HS team.
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The size of these players has changed substantially since you were at Brockport. We have local high school teams with O lines that average 300 pounds per player.
Anyone can play on a team if the coach puts you in. I doubt on a purely skill level if she would be playing. Shorter and thinner by a wide margin than the other athletes.
What position did you play?
September 25th, 2023 at 12:10:48 PM
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Quote: SOOPOOQuote: billryanHer biography says she was an Honorable Mention All-State her Senior year. If that is legit, she should be able to compete in D3. I played one year of D3 for Brockport and it wasn't much better than a top HS team.
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The size of these players has changed substantially since you were at Brockport. We have local high school teams with O lines that average 300 pounds per player.
Anyone can play on a team if the coach puts you in. I doubt on a purely skill level if she would be playing. Shorter and thinner by a wide margin than the other athletes.
What position did you play?
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I'd always been an offensive lineman, occasional tight end but the coach wanted me to play nose tackle. I liked playing defense, but nose tackle is brutal. I'd get double-teamed almost every play in practice and rarely get into a game. Rugby was much more fun.
IF she legitimately was considered for All-State status, I think she could play D3. I'm not sure the safeties on my team were All State or even All County. I think Dana White will be all over her.
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September 25th, 2023 at 12:35:18 PM
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Quote: gordonm888How about Josh Dobbs, the african-american QB with a degree in aeronautical engineering, leading the lowly, undermanned Arizona Cardinals to a 28-16 upset of the Dallas Cowboys? Dobbs was on the practice squad of the Browns last year but now reportedly he has elevated the play of all the Cardinals offensive players and even is mentioned for his impact on the play of his team's defensive players.
I think Dobbs is a sure-fire candidate to join the coaching ranks when his playing career is over. I wonder, whimsically, if he might be a long-shot candidate to replace Roger Goodell in the distant future. At least work in Goodell's office, maybe.
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So, please clarify this post. (I am going to make some assumptions.) A degree in aeronautical engineering, and one win, so far, beating the Dallas Cowboys projects him to be a "sure-fire" coach and "long-shot" candidate for NFL commissioner?
Would you have predicted that a Phi Beta Kappa with a master's degree in English Lit, who never played a down of football would become a HOF football coach that won 2 or 3 Gray Cups (Canadian Football Championships) and taken his NFL team to four Super Bowls?
All I am posting is that your predictions are quite lofty but a real stretch, IMO.
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