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April 19th, 2019 at 10:50:10 AM permalink
Quote: cwwbjr

here are my results after two and a half years of learning and playing baccarat ...

Congratulations on your good fortune.
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( I'm a former recreational red/green chip blackjack player...

And now you are a recreational Baccarat player :o)
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It is my favorite game because it is such a challenge.

Sorry. I'm laughing at what you wrote, not at you. Big challenge: Bet Banker or don't bet.
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I want to thank Mike for his 250,000 baccarat shoes. I study them daily when I'm not playing for real and I find them to be very helpful in developing strategy.

SMH! What an irony that is. If Wizard were dead, he'd be spinning in his grave! He gave you some random stuff and you thank him for giving you the map to the Holy Grail of gamblers
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April 19th, 2019 at 12:02:18 PM permalink
Wasn't he joking? Anyway, studying random data daily is hilarious.
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April 19th, 2019 at 3:46:32 PM permalink
Quote: cwwbjr

I find this interesting and you might also and FWIW I hope it doesn't offend anyone
I want to thank Mike for his 250,000 baccarat shoes. I study them daily when I'm not playing for real and I find them to be very helpful in developing strategy.



It offends me. That someone cannot understand that winning at baccarat is just plain dumb luck, and nothing more! That is offensive to me. Pray tell what have your studies taught you?
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April 19th, 2019 at 3:59:36 PM permalink
The “I study them daily” part makes me think this is satire.
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April 19th, 2019 at 5:02:51 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

It offends me. That someone cannot understand that winning at baccarat is just plain dumb luck, and nothing more! That is offensive to me. Pray tell what have your studies taught you?



He has learned that it’s possible to have a lifetime baccarat career without ever seeing Player win 6 times in a row.
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April 19th, 2019 at 6:52:07 PM permalink
If you could guarantee player never gets a streak of 11 or more, you might be able to make enough to be a professional baccarat player. It’d be close though.
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September 5th, 2019 at 2:04:11 PM permalink
80% but winning 30, using 300 capital.
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September 5th, 2019 at 2:18:35 PM permalink
I truly believe this is the essence of gambling and also the risk involved.
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September 5th, 2019 at 2:23:32 PM permalink
Quote: Holodok

Does anyone have systems that are not as aggressive as martingale?



Fibonacci’s, but very risky as well ....
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September 5th, 2019 at 2:31:17 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

A martingale only works if you have unlimited money and the house has no maximum bet.

Nobody has unlimited money, and every casino in the world has maximum bets on their games.

This is why martingales only work in theory, and not in practice.



The streak I saw 29 times Banker .... Martingale-ing for Player would meant bankruptcy. :P
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September 5th, 2019 at 2:34:45 PM permalink
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gr8player is about 75 ++ years old, I hope all is well as not heard from him since.

I don't think a person of such depth and understanding of the game and the risk of losing that comes with it will do just that.



He died doing what he loved, in the end, we lost not to our own betting system or style but emotions ....
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September 5th, 2019 at 6:39:57 PM permalink
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Does anyone play baccarat everyday and leave the casino after winning $400 per day?



Yes, the dealers do it (leave the casino with more than they came in with) every day. $400/day...usually not that much.
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April 1st, 2021 at 4:45:19 PM permalink
This player is definitely
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcpYMyr16S0&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=CesarReyes
I’d rather have to be a lucky player than good one.
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March 3rd, 2023 at 1:03:17 PM permalink
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This player is definitely
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcpYMyr16S0&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=CesarReyes
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i dont think mdawg appreciates you posting a video of him
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March 3rd, 2023 at 2:59:57 PM permalink
Quote: cwwbjr

here are my results after two and a half years of learning and playing baccarat



I am curious, what did you learn to make you think you can play baccarat better after learning. I don't play the game but I always thought it was just put your money in one of two places and the the dealer either pays you or takes your money. I know, you can also bet the "tie" but even as a non-player I know that is a sucker bet.
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March 3rd, 2023 at 3:08:27 PM permalink
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here are my results after two and a half years of learning and playing baccarat



I am curious, what did you learn to make you think you can play baccarat better after learning. I don't play the game but I always thought it was just put your money in one of two places and the the dealer either pays you or takes your money. I know, you can also bet the "tie" but even as a non-player I know that is a sucker bet.
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the wizard says only bet banker to play correctly i think lol... and to play better you just have to resist the temptation to bet player ... or if you want to play better maybe you bet player too much and decide to start betting banker more...
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October 30th, 2024 at 9:00:50 AM permalink
not all systems are created equal and i can prove it! I am winning because of the human element. I play tight and grind it out and adhere to my stop losses (mostly lol) don't believe me? I have over a hundred videos on my youtube channel and I do realize the bottom can fall out at any minute, however it hasn't happened yet. So am I lucky? Im sure the gurus will say I am but then again they are not me .
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October 30th, 2024 at 9:02:38 AM permalink
yes you need luck but my system is pretty darned good
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October 30th, 2024 at 9:05:42 AM permalink
there are lots of systems out there, however, do not buy anything from most of these system sellers.
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October 30th, 2024 at 9:08:17 AM permalink
wow, most big gamblers are broke, wonder where he is now lol.
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October 30th, 2024 at 9:10:14 AM permalink
I'm not at that level yet but getting there eventually!
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October 30th, 2024 at 9:12:57 AM permalink
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yes you need luck but my system is pretty darned good
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Why is your system better than any other?
May the cards fall in your favor.
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October 30th, 2024 at 9:31:14 AM permalink
because of the human factor. without proper money management you are doomed
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October 30th, 2024 at 9:57:46 AM permalink
Considering I'd need $100K/year just for living expenses, I'd better hurry up and win half a million in my first year at it.
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October 30th, 2024 at 10:59:15 AM permalink
don't gamble over your head... even my system can get risky
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October 30th, 2024 at 11:05:44 AM permalink
Thank you OD I took Wizard's advice in his preface to the sims and used the 250K shoe sims to practice and develop a winning " playway." I also use online Live dealer sites to further substantiate the results. My typical day of play consists of from one to as many as five sessions ( depending on the variance ) with a win goal of $1000 per session and a win rate of 100% of my sessions......( so far ) . Just follow the math.
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October 30th, 2024 at 11:42:30 AM permalink
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I find this interesting and you might also and FWIW I hope it doesn't offend anyone
I want to thank Mike for his 250,000 baccarat shoes. I study them daily when I'm not playing for real and I find them to be very helpful in developing strategy.



It offends me. That someone cannot understand that winning at baccarat is just plain dumb luck, and nothing more! That is offensive to me. Pray tell what have your studies taught you?
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SOOPOO I understand how frustrating learning Baccarat can be. In my experience, after years of study and practice I have learned that if you just follow the math and employ KDP (knowledge , patience, and discipline ) you can easily make a min. of $5000 per week (5 days) and much more actually.( certainly enough to make a living if you can keep it under the radar) . As another winning forum member has said ( paraphrasing ) Most people don't win , not because they aren't ahead, but rather they go on tilt chasing losses and blow their entire Bankroll over and over again . I have witnessed that and agree with him. .Knowledge means knowing if / when , where , and how much to bet.
Discipline and patience helps you navigate the variances in the shoe to prevent the blowout.
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October 30th, 2024 at 5:52:29 PM permalink
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I'm not at that level yet but getting there eventually!
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Sounds like that Mike Malone Doofus. The one who claims to be the "Best Baccarat Player in the World" after 20 sessions, of Red chip bets under $500... lol!

Won't plug his crappy Youtube channel here, but IYKYK...
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October 30th, 2024 at 5:58:09 PM permalink
Quote: cwwbjr

Thank you OD I took Wizard's advice in his preface to the sims and used the 250K shoe sims to practice and develop a winning " playway." I also use online Live dealer sites to further substantiate the results. My typical day of play consists of from one to as many as five sessions ( depending on the variance ) with a win goal of $1000 per session and a win rate of 100% of my sessions......( so far ) . Just follow the math.
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Yeah. Sure. Whatever
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October 30th, 2024 at 7:17:17 PM permalink
Quote: cwwbjr

Thank you OD I took Wizard's advice in his preface to the sims and used the 250K shoe sims to practice and develop a winning " playway." I also use online Live dealer sites to further substantiate the results. My typical day of play consists of from one to as many as five sessions ( depending on the variance ) with a win goal of $1000 per session and a win rate of 100% of my sessions......( so far ) . Just follow the math.
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Beautiful.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people. https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
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October 30th, 2024 at 8:07:53 PM permalink
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Quote: SOOPOO

Quote: cwwbjr

I find this interesting and you might also and FWIW I hope it doesn't offend anyone
I want to thank Mike for his 250,000 baccarat shoes. I study them daily when I'm not playing for real and I find them to be very helpful in developing strategy.



It offends me. That someone cannot understand that winning at baccarat is just plain dumb luck, and nothing more! That is offensive to me. Pray tell what have your studies taught you?
link to original post



SOOPOO I understand how frustrating learning Baccarat can be. In my experience, after years of study and practice I have learned that if you just follow the math and employ KDP (knowledge , patience, and discipline ) you can easily make a min. of $5000 per week (5 days) and much more actually.( certainly enough to make a living if you can keep it under the radar) . As another winning forum member has said ( paraphrasing ) Most people don't win , not because they aren't ahead, but rather they go on tilt chasing losses and blow their entire Bankroll over and over again . I have witnessed that and agree with him. .Knowledge means knowing if / when , where , and how much to bet.
Discipline and patience helps you navigate the variances in the shoe to prevent the blowout.
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Humor us. Are you telling us YOU actually make $5k a week for your 5 days of baccarat play EACH week? Or that ‘someone’ can do it?

Humor us again. If you can make this $1k a day reliably, why don’t you bet twice as much to make it $2k a day. Those figures are so small the casino wouldn’t bat an eye. Less than a maximum single bet for their bigger players.

Humor us a third time. If you can really make that $1k a day what are you doing those 6th and 7th days each week that you want to leave $2k on the table?

Humor us one more time. Does your ‘system’ work only at brick and mortar casinos? Or online as well?
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October 31st, 2024 at 6:02:18 AM permalink
I once spent half of a bus trip to AC listening to my seatmate explain how his craps system only worked with $5 bets. Twenty years had taught him that he'd be okay if he only played $5 bets and quit when he made $300. If he played for too much money or too long, the casinos would implement countermeasures against him. He seemed very sincere and had a messy explanation for anything I asked him.
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October 31st, 2024 at 8:18:55 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Quote: cwwbjr

Quote: SOOPOO

Quote: cwwbjr

I find this interesting and you might also and FWIW I hope it doesn't offend anyone
I want to thank Mike for his 250,000 baccarat shoes. I study them daily when I'm not playing for real and I find them to be very helpful in developing strategy.



It offends me. That someone cannot understand that winning at baccarat is just plain dumb luck, and nothing more! That is offensive to me. Pray tell what have your studies taught you?
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SOOPOO I understand how frustrating learning Baccarat can be. In my experience, after years of study and practice I have learned that if you just follow the math and employ KDP (knowledge , patience, and discipline ) you can easily make a min. of $5000 per week (5 days) and much more actually.( certainly enough to make a living if you can keep it under the radar) . As another winning forum member has said ( paraphrasing ) Most people don't win , not because they aren't ahead, but rather they go on tilt chasing losses and blow their entire Bankroll over and over again . I have witnessed that and agree with him. .Knowledge means knowing if / when , where , and how much to bet.
Discipline and patience helps you navigate the variances in the shoe to prevent the blowout.
link to original post



Humor us. Are you telling us YOU actually make $5k a week for your 5 days of baccarat play EACH week? Or that ‘someone’ can do it?

Humor us again. If you can make this $1k a day reliably, why don’t you bet twice as much to make it $2k a day. Those figures are so small the casino wouldn’t bat an eye. Less than a maximum single bet for their bigger players.

Humor us a third time. If you can really make that $1k a day what are you doing those 6th and 7th days each week that you want to leave $2k on the table?

Humor us one more time. Does your ‘system’ work only at brick and mortar casinos? Or online as well?
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Sure SOOPOO and Thank you, Those are all good questions.
First , I make a minimum of $5k per week each and every week that I play , which is about 80% of the time .Baccarat is a hobby so I do allow time off for vacations and business .

Second , This is a really good question and very common. $1 K day is a comfortable goal for me. Keep in mind when you raise your goal you increase everything else proportionately ie. min. bet amount, time spent in variance cycles, ROR, and TOT (time on table) which can be tiring and affect concentration . As far as most Big Bettors are concerned, with rare exception , like Don Johnson, and Phil Ivey, they don't know what they're doing . They bet big , lose big, and give casinos big profits.
If you OTOH are showing up 5 days a week for any length of time and winning consistently albeit smaller amounts, you will be scrutinized. So, IMHO it's better to avoid that.

Third , I rarely play 5th and 6th days (weekends) because of overcrowding , players in and out of game, time consuming and overall a distraction . Not the best conditions for best play. On a personal level I like to relax and enjoy life on the weekends.

Fourth, Yes ! My Playway works the same in B&M as well as " LIVE DEALER " online casinos, however there are distinctions that make B&M a more favorable choice.
B&Ms have higher spreads Min. and max. table limits and daily payouts as opposed to smaller spreads and in some case difficulty in collecting you winnings and high processing fees.
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October 31st, 2024 at 8:23:26 AM permalink
How many damn slot vouchers would I go through on my way to $64,000 when the Bubble Craps machine spits out vouchers for every win above the $3,000 credit mark? But they're good for 180 or 365 days. I've got a new strategy this morning and I'm trying to work around the CTR's a bit with the vouchers.
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October 31st, 2024 at 8:54:07 AM permalink
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It offends me. That someone cannot understand that winning at baccarat is just plain dumb luck, and nothing more! That is offensive to me. Pray tell what have your studies taught you?
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SOOPOO I understand how frustrating learning Baccarat can be. In my experience, after years of study and practice I have learned that if you just follow the math and employ KDP (knowledge , patience, and discipline ) you can easily make a min. of $5000 per week (5 days) and much more actually.( certainly enough to make a living if you can keep it under the radar) . As another winning forum member has said ( paraphrasing ) Most people don't win , not because they aren't ahead, but rather they go on tilt chasing losses and blow their entire Bankroll over and over again . I have witnessed that and agree with him. .Knowledge means knowing if / when , where , and how much to bet.
Discipline and patience helps you navigate the variances in the shoe to prevent the blowout.
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Humor us. Are you telling us YOU actually make $5k a week for your 5 days of baccarat play EACH week? link to original post



Sure SOOPOO and Thank you, Those are all good questions.
First , I make a minimum of $5k per week each and every week that I play , which is about 80% of the time .Baccarat is a hobby so I do allow time off for vacations and business .
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I always wondered when MarcusClarke would resurface. Now I wonder how long this ridicule will be tolerated.
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October 31st, 2024 at 9:28:32 AM permalink
Whether it takes 3 hours or 15 minutes to double a $1000 buy-in then walk away, it sounds like a plan. The cage doesn't have to ask for ID. But for me that'd be on a $25 table, and those are hard to find. For a $50 table, I'd bring $2K of chips from home and double that up then cash out $2K at the cage, maybe take a casino check to put in the bank every day.
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October 31st, 2024 at 9:43:31 AM permalink
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Whether it takes 3 hours or 15 minutes to double a $1000 buy-in then walk away, it sounds like a plan. The cage doesn't have to ask for ID. But for me that'd be on a $25 table, and those are hard to find.
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Excuse me, any table can be a $25 table if your minimum bets are $25, i.e., PL; Don'ts; comes, Place bets; odds; etc. Most of what I read from your posts are fantasy and simulation plays, and then there is the occasional low $ "real" bubble craps. Maybe I should post my fantasy/simulation slot play betting $5mil per spin as I am up over $13 billion.

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October 31st, 2024 at 9:48:27 AM permalink
I wasn't specific but I meant Baccarat tables for $25 are rare in my area. I did find one but the drive is too long for me except for special trips. Gotta keep my mileage under 7500 miles a year for car insurance purposes. I have no idea what happens if I go over. Also the fog is total in the middle of the night.
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October 31st, 2024 at 10:02:02 AM permalink
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I wasn't specific but I meant Baccarat tables for $25 are rare in my area. I did find one but the drive is too long for me except for special trips. Gotta keep my mileage under 7500 miles a year for car insurance purposes. I have no idea what happens if I go over. Also the fog is total in the middle of the night.
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Excuse me again, but any bac table can be $25 table unless the minimum bet is over $25. Is that what you are referring to?

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October 31st, 2024 at 10:12:32 AM permalink
I'm not sure the local Indian casinos even have Baccarat tables, I must have missed them if they exist and I did look bit. My local casino has a $50 or $100 Baccarat table but no $25 table. It has one or two $15 BJ tables and most other tables are $25. MS Stud may be $10 but multiply that by the bet multiples and it's a $100 table. This is the type of casino that can handle daily $5K cash-outs and not sweat the small wins. But throw in card counting and all bets are off.
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October 31st, 2024 at 10:18:44 AM permalink
Quote: ChumpChange

I wasn't specific but I meant Baccarat tables for $25 are rare in my area. I did find one but the drive is too long for me except for special trips. Gotta keep my mileage under 7500 miles a year for car insurance purposes. I have no idea what happens if I go over. Also the fog is total in the middle of the night.
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When you hit 7500 miles, your tires flatten, and your ignition is fried. That's for a first offense.
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October 31st, 2024 at 10:20:57 AM permalink
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It offends me. That someone cannot understand that winning at baccarat is just plain dumb luck, and nothing more! That is offensive to me. Pray tell what have your studies taught you?
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SOOPOO I understand how frustrating learning Baccarat can be. In my experience, after years of study and practice I have learned that if you just follow the math and employ KDP (knowledge , patience, and discipline ) you can easily make a min. of $5000 per week (5 days) and much more actually.( certainly enough to make a living if you can keep it under the radar) . As another winning forum member has said ( paraphrasing ) Most people don't win , not because they aren't ahead, but rather they go on tilt chasing losses and blow their entire Bankroll over and over again . I have witnessed that and agree with him. .Knowledge means knowing if / when , where , and how much to bet.
Discipline and patience helps you navigate the variances in the shoe to prevent the blowout.
link to original post


Humor us. Are you telling us YOU actually make $5k a week for your 5 days of baccarat play EACH week? link to original post



Sure SOOPOO and Thank you, Those are all good questions.
First , I make a minimum of $5k per week each and every week that I play , which is about 80% of the time .Baccarat is a hobby so I do allow time off for vacations and business .
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I always wondered when MarcusClarke would resurface. Now I wonder how long this ridicule will be tolerated.
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MarcusClarke was a real person. He said so himself.
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October 31st, 2024 at 10:50:13 AM permalink
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I wasn't specific but I meant Baccarat tables for $25 are rare in my area. I did find one but the drive is too long for me except for special trips. Gotta keep my mileage under 7500 miles a year for car insurance purposes. I have no idea what happens if I go over. Also the fog is total in the middle of the night.
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When you hit 7500 miles, your tires flatten, and your ignition is fried. That's for a first offense.
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I'm at 130k or so in the last 11 months.
The tires are only flat on the bottom, so I just roll with it.
May the cards fall in your favor.
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October 31st, 2024 at 11:05:19 AM permalink
I've been in touch with cwwbjr for years now, maybe since I arrived at WOV in 2018. He's been a member since 2014.

We have discussed Baccarat both publicly and privately and I know he shares a passion for the game and I believe he does play. Besides claiming to do well, he keeps playing and that also tends to substantiate his claims - why keep playing unless you're winning? I know I'd stop all casino play if I weren't winning.

Cwwbjr is not the only WOV baccarat player doing well, soxfan is up at Baccarat by his calculations about a million and half over the past couple years or so, and claims as well to be a lifetime winner.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people. https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
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October 31st, 2024 at 11:20:06 AM permalink
Over the summer, I was offered a job driving from Tucson to El Paso. It was three days a week and wasn't the sort of drive where I could do it at a leisurely pace. It's roughly a ten-hour drive, and they assigned cars on 12-hour shifts. I did it once and barely had time to gas up and get something to eat. It would have been an ideal job when I was younger, but I passed on it. The guy I spoke to told me half the drivers quit the first week. I told them to keep me in mind in a pinch, but I couldn't do it regularly.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
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