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April 29th, 2019 at 11:57:58 PM permalink
It was an amazing battle, especially as the first daily double went on the first question and that all three were picking the medium/hard questions early and were so close in the first half. Also Adam was brave and went for it with his daily double.

Tactically I thought the 3rd player played the final round wrongly. If we assume the top 2 bet what they have to, then if they both get it wrong James will fall back to 13017. So she can win by betting something (and still finish 2nd if one gets it wrong). The same logic applies to 2nd, he cannot win if James gets the answer right, so perhaps should bet less and ensure 2nd. Any game theory people out there!!
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April 30th, 2019 at 5:24:00 AM permalink
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Wow! Exciting! This game was not a runaway victory for him, for only the second time! That Adam Levin contestant gave him a run for his money!

I think Adam's total of $53,999 is the highest-ever one-day total that did NOT win.

One more win and Holzhauer ties David Madden with 19 wins. (Madden is 3rd on the Consecutive Games Won list.)

Two more wins and he ties Julia Collins who is 2nd on the Consecutive Games Won list.

Sucks for Adam. He probably would have been a multi-day champ if he was called a month prior!
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April 30th, 2019 at 9:24:15 AM permalink
Anyone have a link to today’s episode yet?
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April 30th, 2019 at 9:56:39 AM permalink
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Anyone have a link to today’s episode yet?

https://thejeopardyfan.com/2019/04/final-jeopardy-4-30-2019.html
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April 30th, 2019 at 10:34:42 AM permalink
I mean it just makes me actually LOL when I look at the results.
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April 30th, 2019 at 1:43:01 PM permalink
No spoilers here as the figures seem a few days old, and presumably posted before tonight's show, but his recent run made the BBC website earlier today ( https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48032235 )
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May 1st, 2019 at 6:23:32 PM permalink
On today’s episode Alex said the Teacher’s Tournament is next week.

And the ratings will plummet... (assuming James is still playing).
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May 2nd, 2019 at 2:50:56 AM permalink
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On today’s episode Alex said the Teacher’s Tournament is next week.

And the ratings will plummet... (assuming James is still playing).

I'm pretty sure in the past the winner of the show before a tournament comes back when it is over - he won't participate in the tournament, surely.

We record the shows and are way behind [tho jumping ahead now to be more current] . If the teachers get a math category, that might be interesting. I won't know for weeks and weeks.
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May 2nd, 2019 at 8:00:19 AM permalink
It turns out his success is due to something much simpler.

https://entertainment.theonion.com/unbeatable-jeopardy-champ-says-key-to-success-is-thr-1834422288
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May 2nd, 2019 at 8:06:43 AM permalink
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...tournament...he won't participate in the tournament, surely....

They mentioned before today's show that were James still playing after Friday's game then he would have a week's break.

I read somewhere that they record 5 a day and do that two days a week. Thus it is likely they recorded the teacher's tournament on two days in a week towards the end of March. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jeopardy!_tournaments_and_events#Teachers_Tournament https://www.miamiherald.com/entertainment/tv/article229884089.html )
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May 2nd, 2019 at 8:16:32 AM permalink
Quote: charliepatrick

They mentioned before today's show that were James still playing after Friday's game then he would have a week's break.

It's actually a two week break. That's the length of the Teacher's Tournament. If Holzhauer wins this Friday, we won't see him again until Monday, May 20th.
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May 2nd, 2019 at 8:42:54 AM permalink
Quote: charliepatrick

They mentioned before today's show that were James still playing after Friday's game then he would have a week's break.

I read somewhere that they record 5 a day and do that two days a week. Thus it is likely they recorded the teacher's tournament on two days in a week towards the end of March. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jeopardy!_tournaments_and_events#Teachers_Tournament https://www.miamiherald.com/entertainment/tv/article229884089.html )



I'm hearing they recorded through the end of their year already. They moved the dates up so Alex could do cancer treatment. The last taping date was April 6.

I'm hearing they expect to resume taping some time in July. They have several regular weeks of shows, plus a teen tournament and teachers tournament. Not sure about the ToC.
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May 2nd, 2019 at 9:11:43 AM permalink
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...The last taping date was April 6....

I also read, presumably referring to Wednesday's show...
Quote: https://www.reddit.com/r/Jeopardy/comments/bjq601/taping_schedule/

They finished the season in April. The last episode will air at the end of July. The episode you saw today was filmed at the end of February.

So they probably didn't take a real break. That site also mentions that they usually record on Tuesdays and Wednesdays but did do it on Saturdays towards the end of this season. https://www.reddit.com/r/Jeopardy/comments/bc7o0v/jeopardy_taping_schedule/
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Quote: beachbumbabs

I'm hearing they recorded through the end of their year already. They moved the dates up so Alex could do cancer treatment. The last taping date was April 6.

I'm hearing they expect to resume taping some time in July. They have several regular weeks of shows, plus a teen tournament and teachers tournament. Not sure about the ToC.



That's good news for you if you make it that far. No way he is still on that long.
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May 2nd, 2019 at 11:20:18 AM permalink
So the there has been taping for everything leading up through July and it has yet to leak that somebody has beaten James yet?
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May 2nd, 2019 at 12:15:19 PM permalink
Regarding training for the show:

Quote: "Who is James Holzhauer?" profile on the Jeopardy(dot)com site


How do you get your buzzer timing down? Did you practice to be so effective in that area?

I did practice. I read a book actually by a former champion who talked about what he did with the buzzer, and I’ve been trying to practice his techniques. I try clicking at home, but you can’t see the lights that signal exactly when to buzz in. But you get into a rhythm when you’re playing the game. I think that’s the most helpful part.



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May 2nd, 2019 at 2:06:19 PM permalink
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...buzzer...there is a winning technique...

If you see today's program and the first question, you'll notice James doesn't show his hand on the buzzer whereas everyone else does. (Hope the image thing works I've created a tinypic account for it.)
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May 2nd, 2019 at 3:49:38 PM permalink
I havent been reading this thread because I thought there might be some spoilers.

My wife mentioned him to me the other day since he is pro sports bettor and plays poker. I guess she caught an episode or two. I told her, I didnt even know what the guy looks like since I haven't watched TV in a while. She mentioned he seemed a little strange.

Then she found this in the Sunday paper(I know, its now all ready Thursday, better late than never) and mentioned it to me.

"He’s just not normal"

“We’ve always described him as one of the smartest and dumbest people we’ve ever met."

"I think in the past, people have perceived him to be a little socially awkward"

https://www.reviewjournal.com/entertainment/entertainment-columns/christopher-lawrence/who-is-jeopardy-champ-james-holzhauer-his-friends-tell-us-1650692/
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May 2nd, 2019 at 5:07:14 PM permalink
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"He’s just not normal"

“We’ve always described him as one of the smartest and dumbest people we’ve ever met."

"I think in the past, people have perceived him to be a little socially awkward"



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Diss! You dissed him! Go directly to jail, do not pass Go, do not collect $200, do not dare do this again or you may be the pariah of the site!



Um they were quotes
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May 2nd, 2019 at 10:57:00 PM permalink
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I know almost zero about him, certainly not enough to diss him. That is just what I noticed being highlighted in the articles, especially after my wife mentioned he was a little off.
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May 3rd, 2019 at 12:47:51 AM permalink
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I know almost zero about him, certainly not enough to diss him. That is just what I noticed being highlighted in the articles, especially after my wife mentioned he was a little off.



She’s right. He is a little off and awkward.
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May 3rd, 2019 at 1:47:35 AM permalink
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Um they were quotes

Yeah, but Axelwolf went and found them and posted them!

Just tongue-in-cheek outrage, I thought what I had posted was pretty mild and it felt like everybody pounced on me. It's good, no worries, just injecting some humor, could be a fail.
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Just tongue-in-cheek outrage, I thought what I had posted was pretty mild and it felt like everybody pounced on me. It's good, no worries, just injecting some humor, could be a fail.


AWKWARD 😀
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May 3rd, 2019 at 6:02:50 AM permalink
Yet again in today's game (Friday) the first Daily Double was in the $1000 row, so James was only able to bet $1k. I wonder whether they're going to make it more likely to be in the higher rows or do they pick the positions at random.
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May 3rd, 2019 at 6:40:12 AM permalink
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Yeah, but Axelwolf went and found them and posted them!

Just tongue-in-cheek outrage, I thought what I had posted was pretty mild and it felt like everybody pounced on me. It's good, no worries, just injecting some humor, could be a fail.

It's all good, no harm no foul. It's no secret that people who are really smart are oftentimes a little off compared to what we like to think as normal.
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May 3rd, 2019 at 7:16:05 AM permalink
Jeopardy!” champ James Holzhauer. http://bit.ly/2ZQm7NH

* Jeopardy!” champ James Holzhauer is continuing his remarkable winning streak to chase the game show’s all-time record, but first he’s being awarded with the key to the Las Vegas Strip. http://bit.ly/2ZQm7NH
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May 3rd, 2019 at 9:08:35 PM permalink
If anyone is interested.

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May 4th, 2019 at 5:28:25 AM permalink
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If anyone is interested.



Sure felt like Alex wanted to take that guys camera and shove it up his a#$!
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May 12th, 2019 at 3:07:44 PM permalink
Quote:

Trebek grew up in Sudbury, Ontario, and majored in philosophy at the University of Ottawa. He worked at the CBC and other broadcasting jobs, until NBC called in 1973 about a game show job, "The Wizard of Odds."



https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/jeopardy-host-alex-trebek-on-his-cancer-diagnosis/ar-AABfXLL?ocid=spartanntp
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May 12th, 2019 at 3:13:36 PM permalink
There was a good lengthy interview with Alex on the CBS Sunday Morning show today.
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May 12th, 2019 at 9:57:18 PM permalink
What should be done about these allegations?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rBS47WxSaI
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May 12th, 2019 at 11:10:19 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Quote: Trebek grew up in Sudbury, Ontario, and majored in philosophy at the University of Ottawa. He worked at the CBC and other broadcasting jobs, until NBC called in 1973 about a game show job, "The Wizard of Odds."

That might explain why there was a question "Near Detroit, Chatham in this Canadian province was a Northern terminus for the Railroad" on Friday's show ( https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x781mlq at 12m12s). I did some googling and it seems this was part of a slave route.
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May 13th, 2019 at 5:42:16 AM permalink
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What should be done about these allegations?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rBS47WxSaI



That was too funny! Thanks!
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May 20th, 2019 at 9:30:24 AM permalink
Here's a Washington Post story discussing how Holzhauer is not only the new face of Jeopardy but is also becoming the new face of sports betting. [Note the picture of him receiving the key to the Las Vegas Strip.] It'll be interesting to see how he parlays his fame once his Jeopardy streak ends.
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May 20th, 2019 at 9:36:17 AM permalink
He has said he’d like to work in an MLB front office, and there’s baseball executives who have been quoted as saying they could see him there (Billy Beane for one.) I would guess he hangs up the sports betting and heads in that direction unless he’s not willing to accept the pay cut he’d likely have to take given that the stats/scouts/analyst guys, anyone but the top executives, are not paid that well by MLB teams.
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May 20th, 2019 at 9:55:01 AM permalink
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He has said he’d like to work in an MLB front office, and there’s baseball executives who have been quoted as saying they could see him there (Billy Beane for one.) I would guess he hangs up the sports betting and heads in that direction unless he’s not willing to accept the pay cut he’d likely have to take given that the stats/scouts/analyst guys, anyone but the top executives, are not paid that well by MLB teams.


Yeah, although that would seem to be a waste of both his talent and potential profits since his name would be valuable for branding. If, however, that's his dream job, more power to him although I'd wager he'd find the work to be boring unless he was the actual guy making trade decisions.
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May 20th, 2019 at 10:13:48 AM permalink
Right, I think there could be an opportunity where he has a fast track to a more important position, but might not give him a position of influence immediately without seeing him work for a season or two.

The branding thing, I guess that would depend on how much he would value wanting to stay in the spotlight. We’ll have to see how far he goes yet to know how large of a lasting impression he’s creating too still tough to say what the lasting value is. Not needing every dollar, my guess is he might prefer to fade into a little less attention, have a little more privacy. Who knows, interesting question, we shall see.
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May 20th, 2019 at 10:18:11 AM permalink
He’s got a good job now. An mlb team would have to match what he’s got going for him.
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May 20th, 2019 at 3:30:00 PM permalink
What gambler doesn't want high return + low variance?

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May 21st, 2019 at 8:43:34 AM permalink
The only way I see him losing is similar to how Ken Jennings lost. Goes into final Jeopardy with less than a 2x lead and for whatever reason or stroke of bad luck....he misses the final question and his opponent answers correctly.

I'll be shocked if someone accumulates more money in the Jeopardy and double Jeopardy round.

No question, he has changed the landscape on how to play this game for maximum return. Of course 2 things must be working....be sharp as a wit and quick on the buzzer. Wagering wise and the selection of the highest denomination questions first is a calculated, smart play.

He's playing the odds. Super majority of daily doubles are answered correctly. Why not make a calculated high wager bet early on after you have answered all $1,000 and $800 box questions? These games are generally close to over before they break for the first commercial.

Very, very smart and calculated play. Future players should take note even though this strategy has been employed before....but not on this level.
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May 21st, 2019 at 9:13:51 AM permalink
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The only way I see him losing is...into final Jeopardy with less than a 2x lead and for whatever reason...

There was a game a while ago where someone gave him a close run for a while. His strategy might also come unstuck if he didn't catch some Daily Doubles and an opponent, late in the game with nothing to lose, went for it and doubled up. Another scenario might be if two Daily Doubles came in a row.
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May 21st, 2019 at 9:23:51 AM permalink
To this day nobody will convince me that Jennings didn’t lose on purpose. I think he had had enough of jeopardy and didn’t want to play anymore.
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May 21st, 2019 at 9:26:13 AM permalink
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There was a game a while ago where someone gave him a close run for a while. His strategy might also come unstuck if he didn't catch some Daily Doubles and an opponent, late in the game with nothing to lose, went for it and doubled up. Another scenario might be if two Daily Doubles came in a row.


About 2 weeks ago. Opponent risked all of his money or a huge junk on a daily double. Hit it. He's the only guy I remember recently where it hasn't been a runaway.

A chip lead in poker gives you an edge over equal opponents. He's kind of playing this game the same way. Early lead gives him options the other players don't have.

Alex may respect this player big time...but he has also been on record as hating players who jump around with their selections. It's possible he has now realized how strong a play it can be for a player of James' caliber.

In any event...looks unstoppable.
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May 21st, 2019 at 9:27:00 AM permalink
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To this day nobody will convince me that Jennings didn’t lose on purpose. I think he had had enough of jeopardy and didn’t want to play anymore.



I wonder if James will do the same at some point. Maybe not lose on purpose but on the final jeopardy go all in. If he gets it right which he does most of the time then he looks awesome. If he loses then owell he is done. Although I think if he does this it wouldn't be until he beat Jennings in wins. How much money would he have at that point? 6 mil?

I wonder at what point this will put a strain on Jeopardy? I wonder if they would try some shenanigans like ulter his buzzer so he keeps losing the buzz ins.
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May 21st, 2019 at 9:29:53 AM permalink
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To this day nobody will convince me that Jennings didn’t lose on purpose. I think he had had enough of jeopardy and didn’t want to play anymore.


It was a fluke and a question that would seem fairly easy for him. HR Block? And he said FedEx?
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May 21st, 2019 at 9:33:13 AM permalink
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I wonder if James will do the same at some point. Maybe not lose on purpose but on the final jeopardy go all in. If he gets it right which he does most of the time then he looks awesome. If he loses then owell he is done. Although I think if he does this it wouldn't be until he beat Jennings in wins. How much money would he have at that point? 6 mil?

I wonder at what point this will put a strain on Jeopardy? I wonder if they would try some shenanigans like ulter his buzzer so he keeps losing the buzz ins.


Ratings increase more than makes up for it with the increased advertising dollars. Producers are smiling, IMO.

Even though many of the games aren't competitive, they are drawing in viewers.
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Quote: GWAE

I wonder if James will do the same at some point. Maybe not lose on purpose but on the final jeopardy go all in. If he gets it right which he does most of the time then he looks awesome. If he loses then owell he is done. Although I think if he does this it wouldn't be until he beat Jennings in wins. How much money would he have at that point? 6 mil?

I wonder at what point this will put a strain on Jeopardy? I wonder if they would try some shenanigans like ulter his buzzer so he keeps losing the buzz ins.


I don’t think so, I think he will legitimately lose one. I think he’ll miss a daily double or two in a show and that will open the door for someone to beat him in final jeopardy. He plays a game where there will be some variance at some point, the question is will he be facing the right competition that can take advantage of it. If his bad day comes with mediocre players then it won’t matter much. He’s the golden state warriors, he can be beat but it will take someone’s best on his off day to beat him.
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TDVegas
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May 21st, 2019 at 10:14:15 AM permalink
He's making $75,000 per day. I doubt he ever loses interest in accumulating as much as he can. My instinct tells me, that while he bets sports....I doubt he was doing that well with it other than a passing hobby. I think one sports book manager said something to the effect of "he wins a little and breaks even from time to time".

He was probably more of a stay at home dad while his wife teaches kind of guy.

Jeopardy presented an opportunity...and he certainly has capitalized. Both he and his wife have made the game show circuit before.
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May 21st, 2019 at 10:30:53 AM permalink
I think he’ll end up in a baseball front office when he eventually loses.
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