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April 22nd, 2019 at 12:19:11 PM permalink
James has become the Tiger Woods of Jeopardy. Without him, no one watches or cares... with him, the ratings are going through the roof!
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April 22nd, 2019 at 12:49:38 PM permalink
If I do manage to get on, I hope someone else has beaten James by then. He's formidable.

I'm going to use the other thread to make any other posts about my experience, good or bad. James deserves his own.
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April 22nd, 2019 at 1:45:30 PM permalink
how depressing it must be to work all these years to get on the show and you finally do, only to go against James. If I had to play against him I would hope for a Friday show aka the last taping of the day. Maybe he would be worn out a little by then.
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April 22nd, 2019 at 6:13:42 PM permalink
I was at sons baseball game tonight. What happened tonight?
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April 22nd, 2019 at 6:14:40 PM permalink
Different day, same result.
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April 22nd, 2019 at 6:29:40 PM permalink
Quote: FinsRule

Different day, same result.



ok good. would hate to miss the losing show
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April 22nd, 2019 at 7:57:26 PM permalink
It must be a strange feeling knowing months beforehand that you are going to become a celebrity (at least of some kind).
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April 22nd, 2019 at 7:59:03 PM permalink
Quote: FinsRule

Different day, same result.

Yes. That sums it up nicely.

He won $90,000+ and made it look easy.

With his very first selection, at the beginning of the show, he just happened to select the Daily Double! He had no money at this point, of course, so he bet as much as was allowed... $1,000.00. ("The house maximum," he said.)

He now owns the top SIX single-day earning spots! (And the 9th spot.)

Roger Craig set a new one-day earnings record back in September of 2010, earning $77,000, surpassing a $75,000 one-day total that Ken Jennings had set back in July of 2004. So what that means is, since July of 2004, a span of almost 19 years, no one, other than Craig, has earned $70,000 or more.

And yet after just 13 games, Holzhauer has already surpassed that amount seven times!

Holzhauer: $131,127 04/17/2019
Holzhauer: $110,914 04/09/2019
Holzhauer: $106,181 04/16/2019
Holzhauer: $90,812 04/22/2019
Holzhauer: $89,158 04/12/2019
Holzhauer: $80,006 04/19/2019
Craig: $77,000 09/14/2010
Jennings: $75,000 07/23/2004
Holzhauer: $74,133 04/18/2019

The next big milestone for Holzhauer would be to break Julia Collins's mark of 20 consecutive wins. (She's second on the consecutive win list, behind Ken's 74 wins.)

For the past week I find myself making sure I've got all my errands done and that I'm home by 7:00 pm, when Jeopardy airs. Too funny.
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April 23rd, 2019 at 1:31:11 AM permalink
In German,

*eisen hauer means iron hewer
*holz hauer means wood hewer

hewer is not commonly used now in English, definition seems to be a person who cuts or mines wood, stone, iron, etc

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April 23rd, 2019 at 2:05:21 AM permalink
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My biggest question about him is, what took him so long to get on Jeopardy? Full disclosure requires me to mention this.

In 2014, he won the Trivia Championship of North America, which is (to my knowledge) the top in-person competition/convention among the elites, including many Jeopardy champions. Alex the poker player goes to it, I think both Ken Jennings and Brad Rutter have competed, lots of others.

<snip>


I’m guessing it was Alex Trebek’s stage 4 pancreatic cancer announcement. Perhaps he was just waiting for the right time. Although, I don’t know if these were recorded before the announcement.
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April 23rd, 2019 at 5:01:10 AM permalink
People get busy in life. They get married. They have kids. They have other projects they are working on. The show also has to select you.

If his only goal in his whole life was to get on Jeopardy, he probably would have been on a little sooner.
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April 23rd, 2019 at 5:23:14 AM permalink
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...[why he wasn't on earlier]...Perhaps he was just waiting for the right time...

There's a video (sorry if it's been mentioned before) of him on the chase from 2014 ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpkLLtvvijc ), so perhaps they waited a while or perhaps they get so many applicants that they just miss some. Another idea is that he was waiting until he was more confident with Jeopardy tactics (certainly googling Jeopardy seems to find lots of things worth knowing - e.g. https://thejeopardyfan.com/final-jeopardy-betting )
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April 23rd, 2019 at 6:35:12 AM permalink
that is insane. I laughed when he answered when it wasnt his turn.
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April 23rd, 2019 at 9:30:52 AM permalink
Quote: FinsRule

I think the rating increases outweigh the budget issues.



I've thought about that. I don't pretend to know all the financial arrangements in play, but JEOPARDY is a syndicated show. It can't adjust the ad rates due to big ratings like WHO WANTS TO BE A MILLIONAIRE could when it was first a craze.


If the local stations are paying X dollars to run it for the year, that sum is already earned by the syndicator. Some of the ads that run look to be national ads, so I'm guessing the syndicator sells those ads and are included in the package that goes to the local stations. JEOPARDY may be able to raise their rates for those ads if that is the case.

I hope someone follows up on this; I don't know how much cooperation a reporter will get from the company, but it is a freaky situation that may not have been foreseen, at least to this extent.

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April 23rd, 2019 at 10:25:32 AM permalink
The prizes are actually only a small part of the production cost. I'm sure the producers will have no problem getting the money together when his run eventually ends.

Trivia time! What is the absolute maximum a player could win on one day?
Here are the unrealistic assumptions:
- The same player rings in first on every clue and gets every response correct.
- The Daily Doubles are in minimum value clues.
- The Daily Doubles are uncovered after all the dollar amounts.
- The player goes "all in" on each of the Daily Doubles and Final Jeopardy.
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April 23rd, 2019 at 10:35:33 AM permalink
Yeah they are paying Trebek 10 million a year to read off a screen or cue card or whatever, their budget will be okay.
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April 23rd, 2019 at 10:48:58 AM permalink
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The prizes are actually only a small part of the production cost. I'm sure the producers will have no problem getting the money together when his run eventually ends.

Trivia time! What is the absolute maximum a player could win on one day?
Here are the unrealistic assumptions:
- The same player rings in first on every clue and gets every response correct.
- The Daily Doubles are in minimum value clues.
- The Daily Doubles are uncovered after all the dollar amounts.
- The player goes "all in" on each of the Daily Doubles and Final Jeopardy.



"What is $566,400?"?
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April 23rd, 2019 at 10:49:41 AM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

Trivia time! What is the absolute maximum a player could win on one day?

$566,400

I give the breakdown here:

http://www.edcollins.com/jeopardy
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April 23rd, 2019 at 10:52:41 AM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

The prizes are actually only a small part of the production cost. I'm sure the producers will have no problem getting the money together when his run eventually ends.

Trivia time! What is the absolute maximum a player could win on one day?
Here are the unrealistic assumptions:
- The same player rings in first on every clue and gets every response correct.
- The Daily Doubles are in minimum value clues.
- The Daily Doubles are uncovered after all the dollar amounts.
- The player goes "all in" on each of the Daily Doubles and Final Jeopardy.



Single Jeopardy -- 29 clues for $17,800 x2 for the DD = $35,600

Double Jeopardy -- 28 clues for $35,200 plus the $35,600 from the previous round = $70,800. Now multiply that by 4 (for the two DD's) for a total entering Final Jeopardy of $283,200

Final Jeopardy -- Double the total from the previous round for a grand total of $566,400.

One thing about the Daily Doubles is that the DD is almost never under the top clue in a category. It is most often found under the 4th clue down.


My question is, if you did have that total entering Final, would you bet it all? Realize that you will only be playing with by yourself as your opponents would have scores of $0.

ETA: Bah! Both Chester & Ed beat me to it!
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April 23rd, 2019 at 10:59:41 AM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

Yeah they are paying Trebek 10 million a year to read off a screen or cue card or whatever, their budget will be okay.

But that is only $50,000 per episode (assuming 200 episodes per year). James is earning over $75k per episode!
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April 23rd, 2019 at 12:15:04 PM permalink
Quote: charliepatrick

Quote: Mooseton

...[why he wasn't on earlier]...Perhaps he was just waiting for the right time...

There's a video (sorry if it's been mentioned before) of him on the chase from 2014 ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpkLLtvvijc ), so perhaps they waited a while or perhaps they get so many applicants that they just miss some. Another idea is that he was waiting until he was more confident with Jeopardy tactics (certainly googling Jeopardy seems to find lots of things worth knowing - e.g. https://thejeopardyfan.com/final-jeopardy-betting )



That video has been removed, but it isn’t hard to find another one. WOW. Worth the watch for trivia show lovers. Here’s where i found it: https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/bfwsl7/jeopardys_james_holzhauer_destroying_it_on_the/
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April 23rd, 2019 at 1:25:38 PM permalink
They must be going round deleting videos as your link has already gone. I saw this one earlier, his personal chase is included : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qvrVN9S2-U .

btw I have to find the videos of the individual games as I'm not US based, so only look at games the following morning - again google seems to help.
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April 23rd, 2019 at 1:26:16 PM permalink
Jeopardy has been on for over 50 years. They have PLENTY of cash and aren't concerned about paying James out.... even if he gets to Ken Jennings level x 10. Ratings + Ad Dollars = $$$$$$$ - Jame's win total = $$$$$$
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April 23rd, 2019 at 3:19:06 PM permalink
The reddit video has been removed , too.

This one has it from James' start. Not sure how the teammates figured into it.



https://youtu.be/8qvrVN9S2-U
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April 23rd, 2019 at 4:40:54 PM permalink
geeee just another ho hum kinda day for him. We need to get him to the spring fling.
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April 23rd, 2019 at 4:52:53 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

geeee just another ho hum kinda day for him. We need to get him to the spring fling.



Yeah...I can't see him hanging with the likes of us, but you never know, I guess.

One of his bio's said he got together with some 2+2 guys and made a trivia team a few years back. Not much overlap between our forums.
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April 23rd, 2019 at 5:24:44 PM permalink
My friend played trivia with him. Imagine if you thought you were right and he thought he was right, and you had to put one answer down...
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April 23rd, 2019 at 5:57:42 PM permalink
Listened to his recent interviews with Scott Van Pelt and Dan Patrick. SVP did a pretty decent job, Patrick was terrible as an interviewer kept asking him a question and then cutting him off in the middle of it like 10 seconds in.
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April 23rd, 2019 at 6:30:39 PM permalink
I just came across this article that I don't think was posted here before:

https://heavy.com/news/2019/04/james-holzhauer-wife-melissa-jeopardy-millionaire/

Quote:

James Holzhauer’s wife Melissa Sassin Holzhauer is no stranger to game shows herself. Before he was a star on “Jeopardy,” Melissa was a contestant on “Who Wants to Be a Millionaire.” The couple was then living in Seattle, Washington, and during that game show appearance, it was James Holzhauer who was in the crowd rooting on his wife.

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April 23rd, 2019 at 7:34:23 PM permalink
Amazing strategy and skill using the buzzer. Starting from the bottom building up money by controlling the board trying to find the daily double, and then shoving all in most of the time. He has found the daily double over 90 % of the time. Using the buzzer, I heard if you try buzzing in while Alex is still reading the question you kind of get penalized, so timing is key if you know the answer and buzz in immediately after the last word is read. He considers it credits and not real cash kind of like units, and a pro gambler helps being aggressive. Most contestants will consider it as cash and may not be willing to risk so much so the reason why he’s eclipsed over 1 million in just 14 episodes. It took Ken Jennings like 70 shows to win over 2 million. John can eclipse it less than 30 shows. He has reinvented the how the game is played. Freaking amazing.
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April 24th, 2019 at 5:32:29 AM permalink
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Yeah...I can't see him hanging with the likes of us, but you never know, I guess.

I kind of wonder how adept he is socially, he seems to have an unnatural smile , the kind where someone tells you that you need to smile and you have to look in a mirror to practice it, never quite making it natural.

ps: doesn't like dogs

dog bit and image below from article posted upthread
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April 24th, 2019 at 5:39:31 AM permalink
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April 24th, 2019 at 9:20:35 AM permalink
I wonder how many shirts/jackets they ask you to bring to the taping? If you continue to win, and are on for multiple shows, do they supply you with new clothes?
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April 24th, 2019 at 9:33:30 AM permalink
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I wonder how many shirts/jackets they ask you to bring to the taping? If you continue to win, and are on for multiple shows, do they supply you with new clothes?



That's actually an interesting question. I just automatically assumed they'd have a wardrobe department that would dress all the contestants for every show.
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April 24th, 2019 at 10:12:48 AM permalink
Evidently, if you have used up all of your outfits by the end of that day's taping, they point you to the nearest mall and tell you to buy some more!
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April 24th, 2019 at 11:27:58 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

I kind of wonder how adept he is socially, he seems to have an unnatural smile , the kind where someone tells you that you need to smile and you have to look in a mirror to practice it, never quite making it natural.

ps: doesn't like dogs

dog bit and image below from article posted upthread



Why do you have to dis this guy like that? What has he ever done to you? Are you some GQ supermodel that has the right to criticize other people's looks? Im a straight guy, but I happen to think James is a cool, good looking, well mannered solid dude. Let's see your pic and we can judge your appearance.
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April 24th, 2019 at 11:43:10 AM permalink
In the UK a former professional poker player has gone on to becoming a presenter of various programs - "Only Connect" is a difficult quiz show, especially the "Wall".
( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Coren_Mitchell )
For serious quizers have a look at some of the walls and see if you can get all four connections.
( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63L6CQrwnZ0 )

I suspect people are warming to James and can easily imagine him going on to being a great host, especially a quiz show.
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April 24th, 2019 at 12:12:09 PM permalink
Quote: charliepatrick

In the UK a former professional poker player has gone on to becoming a presenter of various programs - "Only Connect" is a difficult quiz show, especially the "Wall".
( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Coren_Mitchell )
For serious quizers have a look at some of the walls and see if you can get all four connections.
( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63L6CQrwnZ0 )

I suspect people are warming to James and can easily imagine him going on to being a great host, especially a quiz show.



It's not out of the question that Alex Trebek and the producers are looking for just the right person to succeed him.
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April 24th, 2019 at 12:15:29 PM permalink
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Why do you have to dis this guy like that? What has he ever done to you? Are you some GQ supermodel that has the right to criticize other people's looks? Im a straight guy, but I happen to think James is a cool, good looking, well mannered solid dude. Let's see your pic and we can judge your appearance.



I'm rooting for him as a good representative of the noble profession to which all here presumably belong.

However, I like to say what I think on matters and that smile caught my attention. May not mean much. The dog thing bothers me, but I'm hoping he actually likes them but merely doesn't want to own one.

regarding the other matter, we do know what you look like, so refer to the above if you object to my observation that, well, don't ask why your shaving mirror keeps shattering.
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April 24th, 2019 at 12:29:38 PM permalink
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However, I like to say what I think on matters and that smile caught my attention. May not mean much.



His smile looks odd because he has an underbite. For someone his age it would take 2+ years of braces and major jaw surgery to change.

I think it’s cool that he’s not afraid to show it off. A lot of people would be too self conscious to smile as often as he does when they have one.
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April 24th, 2019 at 12:33:17 PM permalink
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regarding the other matter, we do know what you look like, so refer to the above if you object to my observation that, well, don't ask why your shaving mirror keeps shattering.



This is quite a claim. Tell me what I look like.
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April 24th, 2019 at 12:34:31 PM permalink
Prior to this season, no one had ever wagered more than $19,000 on a Daily Double. Holzhauer has wagered $25,000 twice.

In case you're wondering, here's where the Daily Doubles are:
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April 24th, 2019 at 12:36:36 PM permalink
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It's not out of the question that Alex Trebek and the producers are looking for just the right person to succeed him.



I’m pulling for LeVar Burton.
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April 24th, 2019 at 12:39:08 PM permalink
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This is quite a claim. Tell me what I look like.



This back n forth regarding your appearances should be split off into its own thread
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April 24th, 2019 at 12:40:50 PM permalink
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This back n forth regarding your appearances should be split off into its own thread



Or just stopped
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April 24th, 2019 at 12:41:33 PM permalink
Quote: reno

Prior to this season, no one had ever wagered more than $19,000 on a Daily Double. Holzhauer has wagered $25,000 twice.

In case you're wondering, here's where the Daily Doubles are:



That is interesting. I am surprised that he doesnt do 1000, 600, then 800
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April 24th, 2019 at 12:54:32 PM permalink
Quote: reno

Prior to this season, no one had ever wagered more than $19,000 on a Daily Double. Holzhauer has wagered $25,000 twice.

In case you're wondering, here's where the Daily Doubles are:

What I think is odd is the column distribution. I can see putting the DD less often in the last column because if there is a 'wacky' category, it will be in the last column. But why no love for Column #2?
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April 24th, 2019 at 1:18:21 PM permalink
Has his newfound fame burned his sports betting career?
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April 24th, 2019 at 2:02:58 PM permalink
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Has his newfound fame burned his sports betting career?



No.
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April 24th, 2019 at 2:18:50 PM permalink
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This is quite a claim. Tell me what I look like.

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