2020 Election
While they did have viewing screens for the overflow crowd, most of them did leave when the bad weather came to watch it at home on CNN.
Oh wait, CNN cut away when the crowd started chanting "CNN SUCKS".
No defense for the trash left over, but it's nothing like the junkies and homeless that "Occupied". Remember those losers? Probably productive members of society by now. And if you believe that I have a Bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. Yes, I bought it off Terps yesterday.
As for Colbert, another liberal POS that thinks he is better than You and I, and knows what is best for us. May he slip and fall in a puddle of Aids!
Quote: BozShould we post the radar with all the storms that came through the area that afternoon and evening?
LOL
Pretty much normal weather yesterday
Its gonna rain today
Its going to rain tomorrow
Its the tropics and we are in the rainy season
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As for Colbert, another liberal POS that thinks he is better than You and I, and knows what is best for us. May he slip and fall in a puddle of Aids!
I really like Colbert a lot. Surprised the religious right are not big fans.
I loved the Colbert Jack White Catholic showdown trying to prove who was most catholic
Then I was just scrolling through Twitter and strumbled across this tweet:
All I could think is: Yup.
Quote: ams288I almost commented yesterday that certain members seem so angry lately (I’m glad I didn’t call them out now).
Then I was just scrolling through Twitter and strumbled across this tweet:
All I could think is: Yup.
I agree
The Proud Boys were in Orlando yesterday
Their guy is President yet they come across as very angry and livid.
weird
They have gotten all the equality and acceptance they ever dreamed of. Yet some still seem to be angry and militant.
Like White Supremacy clowns, maybe there is just something wrong with them and their thought process.
I understand Trump's base loves him, but he's despised and loathed by almost everyone else. Judging from the midterm results, I'd guess that dems still have the enthusiasm edge, but it's pretty early.
So you expect thousands of people to wait more than 40 hours in typical rainstorms. Wow! No wonder why the posted newspaper statement shows so clearly that the hall was filled raises the expected "lol."Quote: terapinedLOL
Pretty much normal weather yesterday
Its gonna rain today
Its going to rain tomorrow
Its the tropics and we are in the rainy season
And not with Eric Swallwell's couple of dozen attendees, some of whom were apparently paid. Now let's see the complaints about the tens of thousands of Angelinos and Franciscans leaving their fecal matter and other garbage all over key pedestrian areas.
It appears the Coke Head, Sister in Law banging, bum is going to bring the old man down. Not that Joe didn’t know exactly what was going on.
Doesn’t look good for that Cancer cure he had planned.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-sidesteps-questions-sons-foreign-business-dealings-promises/story?id=63820806
Quote: SteverinosAll this crap about crowd size. Cracks me up. You guys were saying the same thing last cycle and Hillary got 3 million more votes. Let's talk about stuff that matters. Maybe talk about how the dems got 8.6 million more votes in the midterms, the largest margin of victory since the last president to wage a war on the freedom of press.
I understand Trump's base loves him, but he's despised and loathed by almost everyone else. Judging from the midterm results, I'd guess that dems still have the enthusiasm edge, but it's pretty early.
And all of Hillary's margin comes from just one state, CA. A state with lots of potential illegal aliens voting. She was supposed to make a walk out of it. All along we mentioned there was no energy behind her.
Hard to say on the enthusiasm edge. The party of POTUS almost always loses in the midterms. And there were a number of GOP House members who decided to not run, meaning far more than usual open seats. Don't confuse expected outcome with enthusiasm. When Democrats get enthused they tend to nominate a far-left nutcase. So far it appears they will do so this time.
Quote: AZDuffmanA state with lots of potential illegal aliens voting.
Yawn. It's time to put up or shut up on this. Potential illegal aliens? Trump disbanded his own commission that was created to investigate. Take the hint.
Quote: AZDuffmanAnd all of Hillary's margin comes from just one state, CA. A state with lots of potential illegal aliens voting. She was supposed to make a walk out of it. All along we mentioned there was no energy behind her.
Hard to say on the enthusiasm edge. The party of POTUS almost always loses in the midterms. And there were a number of GOP House members who decided to not run, meaning far more than usual open seats. Don't confuse expected outcome with enthusiasm. When Democrats get enthused they tend to nominate a far-left nutcase. So far it appears they will do so this time.
Hillary won California didnt she? So how was that her "margin"? She won it and California didnt matter.
Traditionally California rarely matters because they are last polls to close. Most of the election results are in and everyone knows who the winner is. Perhaps in an extremely tight race California would have some importance
Quote: BozLike White Supremacy clowns, maybe there is just something wrong with them and their thought process.
So you're saying a not insignificant portion of Trump's base are "clowns?"
Interesting.
Quote: ams288So you're saying a not insignificant portion of Trump's base are "clowns?"
Interesting.
Why is it interesting?
White Supremacy supporters are clowns. So are race baiters like Sharpton, Jackson and others like them. Both parties will always have supporters that are clowns.
It’s not that interesting or difficult to see.
Quote: BozWhy is it interesting?
White Supremacy supporters are clowns. So are race baiters like Sharpton, Jackson and others like them. Both parties will always have supporters that are clowns.
It’s not that interesting or difficult to see.
Jackson?
Jesse Jackson?
I haven't heard a peep outta him in over a decade
Sharpton is still vocal but tbh I have seen him tone his demagoguery down. Besides losing a lot weight he seems to have changed somewhat.
He still fights for rights and equality but hes less caustic imo
Quote: darkozHillary won California didnt she? So how was that her "margin"? She won it and California didnt matter.
Simple math. Her popular vote win in CA is more than her popular vote win across the nation.
IOW, this is why we have the EC. So a big margin in one large state does not make the election.
Saying she "won the popular vote" means she is very popular in one state, CA. The rest of the nation not so much.
Quote: SteverinosYawn. It's time to put up or shut up on this. Potential illegal aliens? Trump disbanded his own commission that was created to investigate. Take the hint.
Don't look an me, I am not among those in the states that dragged their heels not to cooperate. You would think with all the talk of "disenfranchisement" that the Blue States would want the cleanest elections possible. Seems not so much.
Quote: AZDuffmanIOW, this is why we have the EC. So a big margin in one large state does not make the election.
It's debatable why we have the EC. That's one train of thought.
The other train of thought, of course, is letting PEOPLE decide elections, not geography.
He has Parkinson's.Quote: darkozJackson? Jesse Jackson? I haven't heard a peep outta him in over a decade
Sharpton's fans finally finished paying off his debt in the Brawley case.Quote:Sharpton is still vocal but tbh I have seen him tone his demagoguery down. Besides losing a lot weight he seems to have changed somewhat. He still fights for rights and equality but hes less caustic imo
Quote: SteverinosIt's debatable why we have the EC. That's one train of thought.
The other train of thought, of course, is letting PEOPLE decide elections, not geography.
The people do decide. How does geography decide? Land doesn't vote.
Quote: AZDuffmanThe people do decide. How does geography decide? Land doesn't vote.
Guess you should explain how you think the electoral college works by popular vote. That should be amusing.
Quote: rxwineGuess you should explain how you think the electoral college works by popular vote. That should be amusing.
State takes a popular vote. Said votes choose that state's electors.
Simple enough that I learned it in about 5th grade civics.
See, if you ignore smaller states like MI, WI, even PA and just focus on CA then the EC balances this out.
Never forget, indeed.
Quote: BozWhy is it interesting?
White Supremacy supporters are clowns. So are race baiters like Sharpton, Jackson and others like them. Both parties will always have supporters that are clowns.
It’s not that interesting or difficult to see.
Politics has nothing to do with determining disgusting dirtballs
Sharpton is a disgusting dirtball
Bill Clinton is a disgusting dirt ball
Donald Trump is a disgusting dirt ball
Roy Moore is a disgusting dirball
Members that post that Michelle is a guy are disgusting dirt balls :-)
Quote: AZDuffmanState takes a popular vote. Said votes choose that state's electors.
Simple enough that I learned it in about 5th grade civics.
See, if you ignore smaller states like MI, WI, even PA and just focus on CA then the EC balances this out.
Why do you need geographic areas at all? Because it’s a gimmick to prevent direct election by actual popular vote.
Quote: rxwineWhy do you need geographic areas at all?
In the year 2019, you don't. The EC is obsolete.
Quote: SteverinosIn the year 2019, you don't. The EC is obsolete.
Not at all. 2016 proved we need it more than ever.
Quote: rxwineWhy do you need geographic areas at all? Because it’s a gimmick to prevent direct election by actual popular vote.
I would suggest you look back at posts over the last 2 years as we have explained it many times.
I wish him lots of luck in the primary, and absolutely no luck in the general.
Quote: AZDuffmanI would suggest you look back at posts over the last 2 years as we have explained it many times.
In case you didn't notice I answered my own rhetorical question in that same post. Besides, all discussions with you on politics are for amusement anyway.
Surprise! the U.S. is not a direct democracy, it is a representative democracy. We elect representatives who vote on things. The major exception is state referenda on specific issues, but at the federal level we are a representative democracy.
Examples:
We elect congressman and Senators, we (the people) do not vote on laws.
State legislatures and/or congress vote on constitutional amendments, people cannot vote on constitutional amendments.
We elect "electors" who vote for President.
That is the way it is. England is like that too (Parliament picks the Prime Minister), as are many countries.
Quote: rxwineWhy do you need geographic areas at all? Because it’s a gimmick to prevent direct election by actual popular vote.
The idea of the EC is to prevent mob rule. Or rule by tyranny. Which is what we now have in single party states like New York, California, North Korea, China, Vietnam and Cuba.
We already proved there are enough dem votes within only 254 sq. miles of NYC to rule the country.
We will rule over you in perpetuity.
It has bigger problems than its history though. Basing the number of electors off delegations gives disproportionate influence to people in smaller states. For example, Wyoming voters have nearly four times as much influence as California voters do. This is a problem. It essentially marginalizes tens of millions of voters living in solid red and blue states. Meaning, it's not just democrats that are disenfranchised. It's everybody. Small states are ignored along with large populous solid red or blue states like California and Texas, while campaigns spend an overwhelming majority of their time in a handful of states each cycle.
Eliminating the EC would give equal weight to every vote and candidates incentive to fight for every vote.
Of course he wants the EC eliminated.
Talk about a worthless unbiased opinion.
You make CNN seem legitimate with that opinion.
Quote: BozYou make CNN seem legitimate with that opinion.
CNN is legitimate. They will be here long after both you and Trump are gone.
Quote: SteverinosWhile yes, the EC was partly created to prevent direct democracy, it was also partly created to protect the interests of slave states.
No, to protect all the small states. VA was a slave state but was the most or second most dominant state at founding. Slavery ended 150+ years ago, get over your fascination with it and live in today.
Quote: BozIn other news that no one expected.....StevO will be voting for whichever candidate the Dems roll out there next November. And would consider voting for OJ or Bill Cosby over Trump if they were nominated.
I've voted in 5 Presidential elections. Guess what? My vote hasn't mattered in any of them. How could I possibly know that? Because who won the Presidency was announced before my polls closed in 4 of those 5.
Yeah, I guess you could say my opinion is biased.
Think of all the conservative voters in California. Their votes don't matter. Think of all the democratic voters in Wyoming. Their votes don't matter. It's a problem.
Quote: AZDuffmanVA was a slave state but was the most or second most dominant state at founding.
Yes, because of the 3/5 compromise.
Quote: AZDuffmanNo, to protect all the small states. VA was a slave state but was the most or second most dominant state at founding. Slavery ended 150+ years ago, get over your fascination with it and live in today.
Then give up originalist's arguments and go with a living constitution if you want to live in the present.
Quote: SteverinosYes, because of the 3/5 compromise.
No, because it had a large economy and was a large state.
Quote: rxwineThen give up originalist's arguments and go with a living constitution if you want to live in the present.
Bingo!
Quote: SteverinosI've voted in 5 Presidential elections. Guess what? My vote hasn't mattered in any of them. How could I possibly know that? Because who won the Presidency was announced before my polls closed in 4 of those 5.
Yeah, I guess you could say my opinion is biased.
Think of all the conservative voters in California. Their votes don't matter. Think of all the democratic voters in Wyoming. Their votes don't matter. It's a problem.
They could always move.
A Conservative in CA that cares about this country should consider moving to Nevada.
A liberal living in Alabama should consider moving to Florida.
Or it’s just not that important to them overall.
Moving of voters should be the next frontier in both job creation and effective use of donations.
Instead of bitching your (or my) vote doesn’t matter, do something about it according to the rules.
Quote: SteverinosI've voted in 5 Presidential elections. Guess what? My vote hasn't mattered in any of them. How could I possibly know that? Because who won the Presidency was announced before my polls closed in 4 of those 5.
Yeah, I guess you could say my opinion is biased.
Think of all the conservative voters in California. Their votes don't matter. Think of all the democratic voters in Wyoming. Their votes don't matter. It's a problem.
My sympathies. I've voted in 11. I'm 5 and 6. My vote has mattered in at least 3 of those.
Quote: SteverinosCNN is legitimate. They will be here long after both you and Trump are gone.
Now we are equal on making each other laugh.
Probably the funniest thing you have ever said in an incredible record of saying funny things.
And CNN’s ratings show how little the public accepts them. Take out the airport viewers and they their own Forensic Files on Headline News beats them.
Need ratings proof or doesn’t that matter to you?
Quote: SteverinosI've voted in 5 Presidential elections. Guess what? My vote hasn't mattered in any of them. How could I possibly know that? Because who won the Presidency was announced before my polls closed in 4 of those 5.
Yeah, I guess you could say my opinion is biased.
What does the fact that it was announced have to do with anything? The results were still the results.
Quote:Think of all the conservative voters in California. Their votes don't matter. Think of all the democratic voters in Wyoming. Their votes don't matter. It's a problem.
No one individual vote really matters. If you don't show up the world will never notice. Just because your state goes opposite of how you vote is meaningless. You are voting in an election. Sure, it is an election to elect electors. Still an election.
Quote: rxwineThen give up originalist's arguments and go with a living constitution if you want to live in the present.
No such thing as a "living constitution." The Constitution is a contract between the government and its people. Contracts do not change because someone feels like changing them. Their meaning stays the same until an official change is made.
In case you did not notice, the Constitution bans slavery.
Quote: BozNeed ratings proof or doesn’t that matter to you?
What would ratings prove? That the same 3 million retired people with nothing better to do watch Fox all day? It’s amazing that any democrat can win anything!
No. I don’t care about ratings. It’s not part of the criteria for me.
Quote: beachbumbabsMy sympathies. I've voted in 11. I'm 5 and 6. My vote has mattered in at least 3 of those.
11 for me also.
Never mattered.
Even voted for Ross Perot. Still didn't matter.
Quote: AZDuffmanWhat does the fact that it was announced have to do with anything? The results were still the results.
It means my states results didn’t matter, regardless of who won my state.
There might come a day where 3 electoral votes matter. Doubt it though.
Quote: SteverinosIt means my states results didn’t matter, regardless of who won my state.
There might come a day where 3 electoral votes matter. Doubt it though.
Easy solution.
Don't vote if you feel your vote doesn't matter.
