2020 Election
Quote: BozThat said, you are the cream of the crop and I respect you for that. Few homeless climb out of the dumpster and make something out of their lives like you did.
Most end up s####g c### for a .99 (now $1.49, WTF Lays?) bag of chips. Mumbling on street corners, shiving each other for a left over muffin top and pis### in alleys.
You climbed out of that to lead “the most feared AP team on the East Coast”.
Not sure if it shows anyone can do it, or you are the typical liberal who feels no one could do what you did.
But either way, respect.
Truly.
First off I never climbed out of su###ing c#ck for .99. Dont know any male homeless that did that.
Otoh I lived in liberal NYC where free food is handed out to the homeless.
I imagine in your neck of the conservative woods you refuse to hand out food to homeless so they have no choice but to sell their mouth services to all the closeted conservative gays. Im sure the going rate is .99 since your neck of the woods rent and other prices are so low.
Secondly, I mention trump cronies, you mention my homelessness.
I mention abortion and pro choice issues, you mention my homelessness
Seems you dont have any real arguments so you just resort to personally insulting me.
Oh yeah, i get it. Its couched in a compliment so you dont get suspended. Like, "wow darkoz kudos to you for rising out of your situation blah, blah"
But if everytime I discuss politics you mention my homelessness it is obvious you are trying to skirt the rules here by throwing insults at me.
What can you expect I guess from conservatives who hate so much?
Interested in talking politics or my prior homelessness?
Last I looked this was a political thread.
Quote: ams288This still a 2020 election thread? Cool.
Here's the staggering truth. One
year from today, one full year,
it will still be FIVE MONTHS till
the election. Print out this poll
and use it as toilet paper, that's
all it's good for at this point.
Quote: EvenBobPrint out this poll
and use it as toilet paper, that's
all it's good for at this point.
The same could be said about every one of your posts.
Quote: ams288The same could be said about every one of your posts.
My post had more truth in it
than yours did. Sniggering
about a poll a year and a
half before an election is
beyond a waste of time.
Quote: SteverinosWhat about the candidates that ARE criminals? Republicans seem to favor them. Weird huh?
Who would you be talking about?
Quote: darkozFirst off I never climbed out of su###ing c#ck for .99.
Wait hold up
Quote: EvenBobMy post had more truth in it
than yours did. Sniggering
about a poll a year and a
half before an election is
beyond a waste of time.
You conveniently deleted this part of my post when you quoted it:
" Yes, I know it’s too early to take any poll seriously. "
Maybe you can try to blame that on the forum like you always do when you double post.
The dirty secret that the GOP won't say out loud right now is this: They're terrified about Texas.
No, not that Donald will lose it. (If he loses Texas, he's already lost in a bunch of other states that make Texas irrelevant). But that his waning popularity there will hurt his margin in the state and help downballot Dems win races that they would have otherwise lost with a popular Republican at the top of the ticket. We already saw this in 2018 in TX.
That the poll takers were never trumpers, or too many illegals were allowed to participate.
Not to mention that many trumpsters secretly pretend they actually hate him for fear of riling up the American hating liberals who wished to give their halfrican messiah a third term.
Just declare anything you don't like fake news. manga!
Quote: ams288
The dirty secret that the GOP won't say out loud right now is this: They're terrified about Texas.
I agree. But not for 2020. If by some chance they lose Texas they will have lost so many other 'battleground states' that Texas will just jump the Dem candidate to nearly 400 electoral votes. Texas will NOT be a deciding state.
I do predict that due to the massive number of immigrants who will settle in Texas that by 2024 it will be a Blue State. But a 'good' candidate on either side of the aisle will have a chance against a 'bad' candidate from the other side. States like NY and Cali a Democrat potted plant beats a Republican statesman. And Utah and Alabama you could say the opposite.
Quote: SOOPOOI agree. But not for 2020. If by some chance they lose Texas they will have lost so many other 'battleground states' that Texas will just jump the Dem candidate to nearly 400 electoral votes. Texas will NOT be a deciding state.
I do predict that due to the massive number of immigrants who will settle in Texas that by 2024 it will be a Blue State. But a 'good' candidate on either side of the aisle will have a chance against a 'bad' candidate from the other side. States like NY and Cali a Democrat potted plant beats a Republican statesman. And Utah and Alabama you could say the opposite.
Except that NYS has had Republican governors
NYC mayors in the last 2 decades include 2 term Republican guiliani and 3 term Republican Michael Bloomberg
And lets not forget NYS went for reagan as well
So not exactly the potted plants you think
Biden: 24% (-5)
Sanders: 16% (-9)
Warren: 15% (+6)
Buttigieg: 14% (+13)
Harris: 7% (+0)
Klobuchar: 2% (-1)
Quote: darkozExcept that NYS has had Republican governors
NYC mayors in the last 2 decades include 2 term Republican guiliani and 3 term Republican Michael Bloomberg
And lets not forget NYS went for reagan as well
So not exactly the potted plants you think
I am talking about "now". Not 30 + years ago. Trump is from NY. I'll bet you that he loses NY against whoever the Dems nominate, no matter how weak a candidate. I'll give you 5-1 on any amount you want. And I'll bet the next Governor is Democrat. Same 5-1. Hell, why not also the next Senatorial race? I'll go 8-1 on that one. I'll go 5-1 on nect NYC mayor as well if you want.
Quote: ams288New poll of Iowa (and change since last poll):
Biden: 24% (-5)
Sanders: 16% (-9)
Warren: 15% (+6)
Buttigieg: 14% (+13)
Harris: 7% (+0)
Klobuchar: 2% (-1)
Is Booker not considered a viable candidate anymore? Or is this just an "Iowa" thing?
Quote: ams288New poll of Iowa (and change since last poll):
Biden: 24% (-5)
Sanders: 16% (-9)
Warren: 15% (+6)
Buttigieg: 14% (+13)
Harris: 7% (+0)
Klobuchar: 2% (-1)
Gets funnier every day. The anti 'old
White man' party seems to want the
oldest whitest men then can possibly
find. The debates will be a hoot as
the old farts try and keep up
with people 40 years younger and
hipper than them.
Quote: EvenBobGets funnier every day. The anti 'old
White man' party seems to want the
oldest whitest men then can possibly
find. The debates will be a hoot as
the old farts try and keep up
with people 40 years younger and
hipper than them.
It’s June! When’s Hillary jumping in?!
an election. This one is interesting,
though.
"Washington (CNN)A majority of Americans say they think Donald Trump is going to win a second term, according to a CNN Poll conducted by SSRS, even as the President's reviews on issues other than the economy remain largely negative. The new poll finds 54% say their best guess is that Trump will win the 2020 election, 41% feel he will lose."
Interesting because this exact CNN
poll in 2011, at the exact same time,
had Obama winning 50% of the vote.
He ended up with 51%. If Trump does
get 13% more that the Dem, that's
considered a yuge landslide. If they
get impeachment off the ground
with a president this popular, it could
be a record breaking landslide.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/05/politics/cnn-poll-trump-prediction-economy-issues/index.html
Results from folks on the scene include almost a scored of candidates and a not insignificant group that still has question:Quote: ams288New poll of Iowa (and change since last poll):
Biden: 24% (-5)
Sanders: 16% (-9)
Warren: 15% (+6)
Buttigieg: 14% (+13)
Harris: 7% (+0)
Klobuchar: 2% (-1)
Biden 24%
Sanders 16%
Warren 15%
Buttigieg 14%
Harris 7%
2% to 0%
Klobuchar
O'Rourke
Bennett
Booker
Castro
Delaney
Gabbard
Inslee
Yang
Bullock
Gillibrand
Hickenlooper
Moulton
Ryan
Swalwell
Williamson
de Blasio
Messam
None of these 6%
Not sure 6%
--Register
Biden +13
Sanders +9
Harris +8
Warren +7
Buttigieg +5
Booker +5
Feel free to say “it’s too early. Polls don’t matter.” I agree.
But please also acknowledge the NYT story that indicates Donny’s internal polling is showing the same thing, and that he’s told aides to lie about how bad his internal numbers currently are to the press.
Quote: ams288New Quinnipiac poll testing the Dem candidates against Donny:
Biden +13
Sanders +9
Harris +8
Warren +7
Buttigieg +5
Booker +5
Feel free to say “it’s too early. Polls don’t matter.” I agree.
But please also acknowledge the NYT story that indicates Donny’s internal polling is showing the same thing, and that he’s told aides to lie about how bad his internal numbers currently are to the press.
Are you expecting an acknowledgment other than "it's a lie by the liberal biased media" ?
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/chuck-todd-spends-three-minutes-asking-mayor-pete-if-african-americans-may-be-too-homophobic-to-vote-for-him/
Quote: terapinedJON STEWART FOR PRESIDENT
At this point I would take Kim Kardashian for President. At least she's a successful businesswoman.
So basically Kanye West would be directing her. Good thinking.Quote: TigerWuAt this point I would take Kim Kardashian for President. At least she's a successful businesswoman.
Quote: Boz3 minutes of Chuck Todd asking Mayor Pete if Blacks hate Gays. Imagine if this was on Fox. Does Chuck think Blacks are intolerant homophobes?
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/chuck-todd-spends-three-minutes-asking-mayor-pete-if-african-americans-may-be-too-homophobic-to-vote-for-him/
I was working for Obama for America in 2012 when Joe Biden made a pro-gay-marriage statement that forced Obama into taking a formal stance on it. His previous stance was not actively supporting it, and personally opposed but not making that well known. Joe forced him to look at it again, and change his mind. But Obama was furious for several days he'd been put in a position where he had to deal with it, and that Joe had said things contrary to the Administration stance.
The reverberation among the black Southern community (which is sizeable) was HUGE. They were quite offended he had weighed in on the gay marriage side, and there were weeks of damage control and a sharp, then lingering downturn in the polls.
The whole organization freaked out when Joe gave that interview. We did a couple rounds of persuasion calls and things rebounded some over time, but that one issue caused a fair amount of blacks to remain distant 6 months later, and sit out the election to some extent.
So, yeah, it's a fairly important but incredibly touchy subject still. It definitely is a factor in Mayor Pete polling at or near zero his first couple months among black women in particular.
I thought you used to claim you had been Republican until recently?? IIRC, you got challenged about that and "poof" you are a Democrat?>Quote: beachbumbabsI was working for Obama for America in 2012.........
Were you ever a Republican, if so when? Am I not remembering accurately?
Quote: petroglyphI thought you used to claim you had been Republican until recently?? IIRC, you got challenged about that and "poof" you are a Democrat?>
Were you ever a Republican, if so when? Am I not remembering accurately?
I was a registered Republican from 1976 until 2018. Post tea-party bloc of 2010 further wrecking the Republican Party, among other things over the past couple decades, most of us moderates were turned off. I finally gave in and changed my affiliation after 2 years of Trump and no significant pushback against his crap from the party.
But I got involved in 2011 because of the Florida illegal voter purge and suppression regulations put into affect. I was offended at the blatant garbage going on. There were only 2 organizations in all of Florida who were willing to jump thru all the hoops they put in place to register voters: NAACP and OFA. NAACP was out of the question, so I volunteered at OFA in order to register voters.
Went all over the county a couple times a week for a year with my table and posters, set up at the library, Goodwill, grocery stores, a couple churches, some community events and fairs. Tried to get permission to register high school seniors but the supe of schools refused to have us on campus, so we found them other places.
OFA was happy to have me, so I did a few call banks and data entry for them as well, went to some rallies. But about 80% of my activity was NON-PARTISAN voter registration.
You say you were a registered Rep. until 2018, are you registered something different now?Quote: beachbumbabsI was a registered Republican from 1976 until 2018. Post tea-party bloc of 2010 further wrecking the Republican Party, among other things over the past couple decades, most of us moderates were turned off. I finally gave in and changed my affiliation after 2 years of Trump and no significant pushback against his crap from the party.
But I got involved in 2011 because of the Florida illegal voter purge and suppression regulations put into affect. I was offended at the blatant garbage going on. There were only 2 organizations in all of Florida who were willing to jump thru all the hoops they put in place to register voters: NAACP and OFA. NAACP was out of the question, so I volunteered at OFA in order to register voters.
Went all over the county a couple times a week for a year with my table and posters, set up at the library, Goodwill, grocery stores, a couple churches, some community events and fairs. Tried to get permission to register high school seniors but the supe of schools refused to have us on campus, so we found them other places.
OFA was happy to have me, so I did a few call banks and data entry for them as well, went to some rallies. But about 80% of my activity was NON-PARTISAN voter registration.
That had to have had some ??? moments when locals discovered you were registered Republican, but working for HIllary? This might be the root of some conspiracy theory's?
Quote: beachbumbabsI was a registered Republican from 1976 until 2018. Post tea-party bloc of 2010 further wrecking the Republican Party, among other things over the past couple decades, most of us moderates were turned off. I finally gave in and changed my affiliation after 2 years of Trump and no significant pushback against his crap from the party.
What exactly about the Tea Party "wrecked the Republican Party?" The planks about smaller government and personal responsibility?
What "crap" from Trump? Protecting the border and looking out for American interests? Better trade deals?
What voter suppression exactly I wonder? Requiring ID? Purging people who have not voted in several elections?
FWIW I loved how you said Obama freaked out when Biden pushed him to a stance on gay marriage. Shows what a coward Obama always was.
Quote: beachbumbabsNAACP was out of the question, so I volunteered at OFA in order to register voters.
OFA was happy to have me, so I did a few call banks and data entry for them as well, went to some rallies. But about 80% of my activity was NON-PARTISAN voter registration.
So many questions with all due respect.
As an uneducated layman on the inter workings of the NDblACP, why were they out of the question? Are they intolerant of others not AA?
Of course Obama for America was happy to have you. They encouraged people to register for either party? The rallies you went to were non partisan? Where in this country are these rallies held? Who the hell is left in this country that is non partisan? And are you telling me there are people out there who just want people to vote regardless of who they vote for? Sounds utopian to me.
That said there is still a home for hard working, independent women (and men) like you in the GOP who expect to earn everything they get in America. You left the party, it didn’t leave you.
I hope you get over this race to the handout bottom, come to your senses and vote your best interests. Forgiveness of debts is beneath you, me and most of the hard workers on this site.
Quote: BozThat said there is still a home for hard working, independent women (and men) like you in the GOP who expect to earn everything they get in America. You left the party, it didn’t leave you.
She's not the only one.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/245813/leans-conservative-liberals-keep-recent-gains.aspx
Quote: BozI hope you get over this race to the handout bottom, come to your senses and vote your best interests. Forgiveness of debts is beneath you, me and most of the hard workers on this site.
This is rich, somebody who openly supports a "criminal" for President telling somebody else to come to their senses.
Quote: Steverinos
This is rich, somebody who openly supports a "criminal" for President telling somebody else to come to their senses.
What criminal? Hillary?
Quote: SteverinosShe's not the only one.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/245813/leans-conservative-liberals-keep-recent-gains.aspx
This is rich, somebody who openly supports a "criminal" for President telling somebody else to come to their senses.
Asian Americans are one of the hardest working demographics in the country
And
The clear majority has been voting Dem lately
Quote: terapinedAsian Americans are one of the hardest working demographics in the country
And
The clear majority has been voting Dem lately
No, overall they are the HARDEST working demographic and always have been. They have a work ethic you can’t teach. And in cities like Philadelphia they are punished for making efforts to protect their family and their business interests.
I would love to better understand why and have always respected it. Any speculation on my part would only be just that. I would like to believe they understand what America is and can be and strive to be part of the ideal of the greatest country on Earth. You know the one, the place people risk their life to illegally enter. Most Asians do it the right way and suffer because of illegals, and we are a lessor country because of it.
No understanding of why anyone who did it the right way would support the Dems and their amnesty beliefs.
Quote: BozNo, overall they are the HARDEST working demographic and always have been. They have a work ethic you can’t teach. And in cities like Philadelphia they are punished for making efforts to protect their family and their business interests.
I would love to better understand why and have always respected it. Any speculation on my part would only be just that. I would like to believe they understand what America is and can be and strive to be part of the ideal of the greatest country on Earth. You know the one, the place people risk their life to illegally enter. Most Asians do it the right way and suffer because of illegals, and we are a lessor country because of it.
No understanding of why anyone who did it the right way would support the Dems and their amnesty beliefs.
Just another working class group fooled into thinking the Democrat Party is looking out for their best interests.
Quote: SteverinosShe's not the only one.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/245813/leans-conservative-liberals-keep-recent-gains.aspx
This is rich, somebody who openly supports a "criminal" for President telling somebody else to come to their senses.
Yea, not worth it.
Has to be a wresting gimmick.
Quote: BozNo understanding of why anyone who did it the right way would support the Dems and their amnesty beliefs.
Ronald Reagan. He understood it.
"I believe in the idea of amnesty for those who have put down roots and lived here, even though sometime back they may have entered illegally" - Ronald Reagan, the father of modern conservatism.
He granted 3 million amnesty. Yes, he would be disappointed that the 1986 reform didn't lead to a reduction in illegal immigration he hoped for. Which is why it's even more important to fix the issue on a bi-partisan basis, something that President Obama and the bi-partisan Gang of Eight bill attempted to do, before it was killed by House Republicans because...ironically...amnesty.
Somebody asked how the tea party bloc wrecked the Republican party? See above. That's how. It's great to see people like Justin Amash recognize this. We need more like him.
Quote: BozMost Asians do it the right way and suffer because of illegals, and we are a lessor country because of it.
No understanding of why anyone who did it the right way would support the Dems and their amnesty beliefs.
There's no real verdict on the right way, as it's generally a farther walk to get here and difficult to breathe underwater.
Quote: SteverinosRonald Reagan. He understood it.
"I believe in the idea of amnesty for those who have put down roots and lived here, even though sometime back they may have entered illegally" - Ronald Reagan, the father of modern conservatism.
He granted 3 million amnesty. Yes, he would be disappointed that the 1986 reform didn't lead to a reduction in illegal immigration he hoped for. Which is why it's even more important to fix the issue on a bi-partisan basis, something that President Obama and the bi-partisan Gang of Eight bill attempted to do, before it was killed by House Republicans because...ironically...amnesty.
Somebody asked how the tea party bloc wrecked the Republican party? See above. That's how. It's great to see people like Justin Amash recognize this. We need more like him.
F Justin Amash and everyday I get texts requesting donations to defeat him. I usually ignore them but today I’m donating $100 in your honor. May or may not make a difference. Call me a GOP sucker, that said will you match it to help that POS Justin?
Quote: petroglyphYou say you were a registered Rep. until 2018, are you registered something different now?
That had to have had some ??? moments when locals discovered you were registered Republican, but working for HIllary? This might be the root of some conspiracy theory's?
I didn't work for Hillary.
I worked for Obama in 2012. One of the things I did was organize a local Republicans for Obama group. There were quite a few.
I considered registering Independent, because there are several things I very much disagree with in the Democratic platform, but Florida is a closed primary state, and I refuse to be shut out from a primary (or any other) election. So I changed registration to Democrat.
Quote: beachbumbabsI didn't work for Hillary.
I worked for Obama in 2012. One of the things I did was organize a local Republicans for Obama group. There were quite a few.
I considered registering Independent, because there are several things I very much disagree with in the Democratic platform, but Florida is a closed primary state, and I refuse to be shut out from a primary (or any other) election. So I changed registration to Democrat.
https://floridapolitics.com/archives/292088-desantis-approval-ratings-climb
Hopefully you are in the majority that likes the job our (Me Part Time) Governor is doing.
Can you imagine the mess it would be if that lunatic Andy was elected?
Quote: SteverinosRonald Reagan. He understood it.
"I believe in the idea of amnesty for those who have put down roots and lived here, even though sometime back they may have entered illegally" - Ronald Reagan, the father of modern conservatism.
He granted 3 million amnesty. Yes, he would be disappointed that the 1986 reform didn't lead to a reduction in illegal immigration he hoped for. Which is why it's even more important to fix the issue on a bi-partisan basis, something that President Obama and the bi-partisan Gang of Eight bill attempted to do, before it was killed by House Republicans because...ironically...amnesty.
Somebody asked how the tea party bloc wrecked the Republican party? See above. That's how. It's great to see people like Justin Amash recognize this. We need more like him.
Stopping another amnesty when the first one was a disaster in that it just encouraged more illegal immigration and started CA down its road to the third world hell hole state that it is today is "wrecking the party?" And I do not care if Reagan liked the idea, Just because he is the best POTUS since when, Coolidge? does not mean I agree with every idea he ever had.
A proper amnesty compromise might be they can get a green card but cannot become citizens or vote-----ever. See if the Dems will go for that one. Would show their true motivations.
Quote: Bozhttps://floridapolitics.com/archives/292088-desantis-approval-ratings-climb
Hopefully you are in the majority that likes the job our (Me Part Time) Governor is doing.
Can you imagine the mess it would be if that lunatic Andy was elected?
nope
I doubt my life would have changed one iota regardless of who got elected Gov in Florida
Quote: AZDuffmanStopping another amnesty when the first one was a disaster in that it just encouraged more illegal immigration and started CA down its road to the third world hell hole state that it is today is "wrecking the party?" And I do not care if Reagan liked the idea, Just because he is the best POTUS since when, Coolidge? does not mean I agree with every idea he ever had.
A proper amnesty compromise might be they can get a green card but cannot become citizens or vote-----ever. See if the Dems will go for that one. Would show their true motivations.
I've always found it funny that Trump, the man who wants to build a wall, stole his campaign slogan from the same man who said "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall."
Just funny to me.
Quote: SteverinosI've always found it funny that Trump, the man who wants to build a wall, stole his campaign slogan from the same man who said "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall."
Just funny to me.
What is funny is libs who equate the Berlin Wall with a protective border wall. Do you not understand the difference?
The party definitely left me, and all moderate Republicans. It is no longer the party of Eisenhower, Ford, or Nixon. Even Reagan wouldn't recognize it. Barbara Bush and I agreed on nearly everything, for a more current take on it. There are no moderates left, and I disagree with the reversals they made in many platform areas.
The NAACP supports reparations, extreme affirmative action, and other things I don't. So I didn't want to join them, but I worked with them a lot 2011-12, because they are a significant population of the party.
I don't support Democratic initiatives or most of the progressive movement. The only worse candidate out there for me than Bernie is Trump. I don't support free college, for example, but I do support low-interest student loans and Pell grants.
That's enough - I've discussed my positions often enough in other threads, so I'll stop going on about me.
Quote: AZDuffmanWhat is funny is libs who equate the Berlin Wall with a protective border wall. Do you not understand the difference?
A "protective" border wall?
I don't need protection from people fleeing violence in their home countries in search of better lives for them and their children. I need protection from fellow Americans who refuse to believe in the failure of trickle-down economics, who refuse to believe in the science of climate change, who refuse to believe that we are all created equal, who refuse to endorse bodily autonomy, and who refuse to believe that a man who lies with the ease and frequency that our current President enjoys is dangerous to this and future generations of Americans.
Quote: SteverinosA "protective" border wall?
Yes. Ask people in border towns being overrun by illegals. Not white-bread folks in their gated communities.
Quote:I don't need protection from people fleeing violence in their home countries. I need protection from fellow Americans who refuse to believe in the failure of trickle-down economics, who refuse to believe in the science of climate change, who refuse to believe that we are all created equal, who refuse to endorse bodily autonomy, and who refuse to believe that a man who lies with the ease and frequency that our current President enjoys is dangerous to this and future generations of Americans.
Trickle down WORKS. Proof is all around you.
Climate change is to science is what "People" magazine is to journalism.
Who does not believe we are not created equal? Perhaps the party of Affirmative Action, the colleges who give admissions based on the same, or the SAT now giving points based on skin color?
Don't talk to me about "body autonomy" unless you are against mandatory vaccinations
The ones who are a danger to the USA are the socialists on the left running against our great POTUS, Trump.
You still do not state if you understand the difference between the Berlin Wall and a border wall.
We can't expect more from people who don't know whether they're coming or going.Quote: AZDuffmanWhat is funny is libs who equate the Berlin Wall with a protective border wall. Do you not understand the difference?
