2020 Election
Quote: AZDuffmanNo such thing as a "living constitution." The Constitution is a contract between the government and its people. Contracts do not change because someone feels like changing them. Their meaning stays the same until an official change is made.
In case you did not notice, the bans slavery.
"Their meaning stays the same until an official change is made." That's BS. The SC just ruled a giant 90 year cross didn't represent a particular religion when it was erected in a graveyard. Freaking A, I've never seen atheists, jews , or any other religion erect a Christian cross to represent a memorial. Ever.
Jews had filed suit on that memorial. But they lost. Origin has meaning when it serves conservatives interests.
Quote: wellwellwellEasy solution.
Don't vote if you feel your vote doesn't matter.
Don't listen to this.
Vote. Always. It's your right to be heard.
There would be no harm in letting # 49 and # 50 vote the day before.Quote: SteverinosIt means my states results didn’t matter, regardless of who won my state.
There might come a day where 3 electoral votes matter. Doubt it though.
Quote: SteverinosIt means my states results didn’t matter, regardless of who won my state.
There might come a day where 3 electoral votes matter. Doubt it though.
But they would not have mattered no matter what. You just did not know.
There might come a day when 3 EC votes matter? Uh, do you not remember 2000 and when 3 EC votes saved us from an Algore admin?
Quote: rxwine"Their meaning stays the same until an official change is made." That's BS. The SC just ruled a giant 90 year cross didn't represent a particular religion when it was erected in a graveyard. Freaking A, I've never seen atheists, jews , or any other religion erect a Christian cross to represent a memorial. Ever.
Jews had filed suit on that memorial. But they lost. Origin has meaning when it serves conservatives interests.
Nothing in the Constitution says anything religious is prohibited. Intent was there would be no state religion, as there was in England at the time. Haters love the "shall not establish" but forget the "nor shall prevent the free exercise thereof" part. This clause was not made to deny religious groups access to the same government property the model railroad club gets. But we bad to fight for that one at SCOTUS in the 1990s.
Quit acting like a vampire, a cross in a cemetery is not repressing you.
Quote: AZDuffmanNothing in the Constitution says anything religious is prohibited. Intent was there would be no state religion, as there was in England at the time. Haters love the "shall not establish" but forget the "nor shall prevent the free exercise thereof" part. This clause was not made to deny religious groups access to the same government property the model railroad club gets. But we bad to fight for that one at SCOTUS in the 1990s.
Quit acting like a vampire, a cross in a cemetery is not repressing you.
Not a bad argument, but my rebuttal is similar to the concept of, "your right to swing your fist ends at my nose". The free exercise of your religion ends with your imposition of your religious symbols on govt property, which is by definition owned by all of us.
"All of us" includes atheist, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, and other beliefs. A model railroad club doesn't espouse a religious belief: it celebrates a past and present method of transportation. No belief required. No exclusionary precepts. No thought police.
Quote: AZDuffmanNothing in the Constitution says anything religious is prohibited. Intent was there would be no state religion, as there was in England at the time. Haters love the "shall not establish" but forget the "nor shall prevent the free exercise thereof" part. This clause was not made to deny religious groups access to the same government property the model railroad club gets. But we bad to fight for that one at SCOTUS in the 1990s.
Quit acting like a vampire, a cross in a cemetery is not repressing you.
Wrong.
The court has found religious symbolism to represent state religion and even with this stupid ruling they still upheld that principle, because they say this is a war memorial, or peace cross which is sadly hilarious.
If you walked a dozen Christians around Arlington National cemetery where grave markers have various symbols, I have no doubt the crosses on the many of markers would get a "Christian" designation from them, because that's what it is on the marker.
But show them a 40 foot representation of the same symbol, and they can't see it any longer. Leastwise SCOTUS majority can't.
Of course, I'm talking to someone who thinks a cake maker is suffering mighty repression to make a cake with two grooms on the top. About as snowflakey as they come,
Quote: rxwineSpeaking of Arlington, every individual grave does get the freedom to represent their religion. However, even though some group would probably erect 100 ft Jesus statue at the entrance, that shouldn't be allowed.
Of course, I'm talking to someone who thinks a cake maker is suffering mighty repression to make a cake with two grooms on the top. About as snowflakey as they come,
No, you are talking to someone who believes someone should be able to say, "I do not want that kind of business" if they so choose. Nothing to do with "suffering." Just not wanting that business.
Quote: BozQuote: SteverinosCNN is legitimate. They will be here long after both you and Trump are gone.
Now we are equal on making each other laugh.
Probably the funniest thing you have ever said in an incredible record of saying funny things.
And CNN’s ratings show how little the public accepts them. Take out the airport viewers and they their own Forensic Files on Headline News beats them.
Need ratings proof or doesn’t that matter to you?
So you don't like CNN
Why do you watch so much CNN??????????
I don't have the foggiest idea what Fox reports. They could say Trump is the best thing since sliced bread. I could care less.
I certainly don't complain about fox because I have no idea what they are reporting
Its so weird how much CNN conservatives watch.
The only way you can have a real opinion on CNN is to watch a ton of CNN
I watch CNN sometimes. Very LEGIT. I like Anderson Cooper. One of the few journalists to take on scientology. Go Anderson.
I don't watch Fox so cant complain about Fox
Will be watching CNN Sunday night 9pm. Should be a pretty good show. Apollo 11. New footage just discovered. Should be a good documentary. Go CNN
https://www.cnn.com/shows/apollo-11-cnn-film
Took the CNN tour back in the day. Was following around the Grateful Dead back in the day. The were playing at the old Omni, right next door to CNN center. Decided to take the tour. Pretty neat facility
Quote: beachbumbabsNot a bad argument, but my rebuttal is similar to the concept of, "your right to swing your fist ends at my nose". The free exercise of your religion ends with your imposition of your religious symbols on govt property, which is by definition owned by all of us.
All kinds of symbols are put on government property. Obama flew the gay flag on government property. I do not care for that, but I am not making a literal federal case out of it. We are talking about a memorial for crying out loud, not about putting crosses at every USPS branch. What we really have is another case of those who preach "tolerance" refusing to practice it themselves.
Those that want a totally secular, atheist government should check out China. Or ask someone who lived in the USSR.
Quote:"All of us" includes atheist, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, and other beliefs. A model railroad club doesn't espouse a religious belief: it celebrates a past and present method of transportation. No belief required. No exclusionary precepts. No thought police.
The club thing is a different kind of issue that I threw in to show other SCOTUS rulings. But since you brought it up, here is the thing there. A religious club, and we will leave the type generic for discussion, pays the same taxes as anyone else. The issue was IIRC involving schools but could also be the public library or such. If the school offers rooms for clubs to meet, there is nothing "establishing" a religion if said club signs up for a room same as the model RR club. Nobody is being forced to go, and no resources are being used that would not be used otherwise. So they have the same right to facilities.
Sadly some busybodies in schools have even tried to ban students from quietly reading bibles off to themselves citing "separation of church and state." The fight for our rights never ends.
Quote: terapinedMembers that post that Michelle is a guy are disgusting dirt balls :-)
So we’re just gonna let this slide? Uhh....alrighty then...
As far as the EC goes — all you have to know is this: The states vote for president.
Quote: RSSo we’re just gonna let this slide? Uhh....alrighty then...
As far as the EC goes — all you have to know is this: The states vote for president.
Nothing about the moderation here is biased. Now move along, nothing to see here.🤣
Right up there with sleazy Bill Clinton
https://www.thecut.com/2019/06/donald-trump-assault-e-jean-carroll-other-hideous-men.html
Quote: terapinedTrump is such a sleaze ball
Right up there with sleazy Bill Clinton
https://www.thecut.com/2019/06/donald-trump-assault-e-jean-carroll-other-hideous-men.html
Looks like 777 was on to something when always calling Donny a rapist.
Quote: terapinedTrump is such a sleaze ball
Right up there with sleazy Bill Clinton
https://www.thecut.com/2019/06/donald-trump-assault-e-jean-carroll-other-hideous-men.html
I wonder if she is trying to sell a book now......
Wow, what a coincidence!!!!! She is trying to sell a book now!!!! Who could have guessed that!
Quote: terapined
That is pretty crazy. It is a clear result of Trump calling our press and out constitutional rights the enemy. Trump wants these violent attacks against our country, our people, our constitution, and our way of life. And he has plenty of supporters who will follow through for their leader.
Quote: TomGQuote: terapined
That is pretty crazy. It is a clear result of Trump calling our press and out constitutional rights the enemy. Trump wants these violent attacks against our country, our people, our constitution, and our way of life. And he has plenty of supporters who will follow through for their leader.
Yup, Trump supporters cant deal with the constitution and the 1st amendment
sad
Quote: terapinedQuote: TomGQuote: terapined
That is pretty crazy. It is a clear result of Trump calling our press and out constitutional rights the enemy. Trump wants these violent attacks against our country, our people, our constitution, and our way of life. And he has plenty of supporters who will follow through for their leader.
Yup, Trump supporters cant deal with the constitution and the 1st amendment
sad
As long as he dry humps the flag onstage, it's okay if he s**ts on the Constitution.
I or anyone else who knows the first thing about Bergdorf could have and would have guessed that. After all, there is not one frame of video available from one of the most heavily controlled stores in the world. Nor are there any other records or forensic evidence. Even with the renowned Linda Fairstein in the D.A.'s office.Quote: SOOPOOI wonder if she is trying to sell a book now......
Wow, what a coincidence!!!!! She is trying to sell a book now!!!! Who could have guessed that!
Quote: terapined
Quote: XBe peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery.
Here is a picture of them together.
Oops.
The President is a rapist.
Quote: ams288The President is a rapist.
Quote: RS
Jennifer Lawrence would agree with me. She hates Donald’s guts.
Quote: ams288Quote: RS
Jennifer Lawrence would agree with me. She hates Donald’s guts.
Oooookay.....?
Quote: billryanSure, the guy might be a rapist, but didn't he put a couple extra bucks in your pocket? Get your priorities right.
So were you happy or sad that Bill Clinton was president? I'm trying to ascertain your priorities....
Quote: ams288Donald yesterday on the woman who claimed he sexually assaulted her: “never met this person.”
Here is a picture of them together.
Oops.
The President is a rapist.
Wrong....just another lib with a bad case of TDS. Hopefully, they will start charging these false accusers. Here's a couple of quality tweets she's made in the past.
https://tweetsave.com/cjtruth/status/1142453555195985923
WTF is wrong with that person?Quote: MaxPenQuote: ams288Donald yesterday on the woman who claimed he sexually assaulted her: “never met this person.”
Here is a picture of them together.
Oops.
The President is a rapist.
Wrong....just another lib with a bad case of TDS. Hopefully, they will start charging these false accusers. Here's a couple of quality tweets she's made in the past.
https://tweetsave.com/cjtruth/status/1142453555195985923
Quote: AxelWolfWTF is wrong with that person?Quote: MaxPen
Wrong....just another lib with a bad case of TDS. Hopefully, they will start charging these false accusers. Here's a couple of quality tweets she's made in the past.
https://tweetsave.com/cjtruth/status/1142453555195985923
Just another sick liberal. That's how they come up with pee dossiers and what not. A bunch of sickos screwing their dogs, raping their kids, and pissing on each other, I guess. They then project their demonic actions onto the saviors of the world.
Quote: AxelWolfWTF is wrong with that person?Quote: MaxPenQuote: ams288Donald yesterday on the woman who claimed he sexually assaulted her: “never met this person.”
Here is a picture of them together.
Oops.
The President is a rapist.
Wrong....just another lib with a bad case of TDS. Hopefully, they will start charging these false accusers. Here's a couple of quality tweets she's made in the past.
https://tweetsave.com/cjtruth/status/1142453555195985923
I have no idea. He clearly can’t keep his hands to himself. To think that the GOP is still standing behind him.... shocking.
Republicans believed Juanita Broaddrick. The new rape allegation against Trump is more credible.
Nice to see not ALL republicans have sold their souls...
Quote: MaxPenJust another sick liberal. That's how they come up with pee dossiers and what not. A bunch of sickos screwing their dogs, raping their kids, and pissing on each other, I guess. They then project their demonic actions onto the saviors of the world.
As far as I know, Trump is still better than his BFF Putin, and his true love Kim Jong Un. So, he still has that going for him.
Do you honestly think Carroll is credible?Quote: ams288Quote: AxelWolfWTF is wrong with that person?Quote: MaxPenQuote: ams288Donald yesterday on the woman who claimed he sexually assaulted her: “never met this person.”
Here is a picture of them together.
Oops.
The President is a rapist.
Wrong....just another lib with a bad case of TDS. Hopefully, they will start charging these false accusers. Here's a couple of quality tweets she's made in the past.
https://tweetsave.com/cjtruth/status/1142453555195985923
I have no idea. He clearly can’t keep his hands to himself. To think that the GOP is still standing behind him.... shocking.
Quote: AxelWolfDo you honestly think Carroll is credible?
Absolutely.
Do you honestly think Donald has “never met” her despite the picture evidence of them meeting?
I think that he didn't remember her because he didnt assault her in anyway shape or form. I have no doubt there are people I have meet, and I myself would claim I never meet them. It sounds like she was a good person to forget because shes F****N NUTS(and dogs).Quote: ams288Absolutely.
Do you honestly think Donald has “never met” her despite the picture evidence of them meeting?
I have the tendency to believe the accounts of women who have little to gain and lots to lose over a man who’s lies are literally measured in the thousands.
Quote: ams288I don’t think she sounds nuts at all.
I have the tendency to believe the accounts of women who have little to gain and lots to lose over a man who’s lies are literally measured in the thousands.
The Donald has over a dozen accusers. I don't think anyone in their right mind would trust their wife or daughter with a guy who has a dozen accusers even that's all the proof they had. Nor would they hire a baby sitter who had a more than a dozen accusations of child molestation without any other proof. Nor would they likely hire a maid to clean their house who had over a dozen accusations of theft in their recommendations.
But, oh no, Don is innocent! Who is acting the fool here? The same people who would get shot on 5th ave. by Don and still vote for him obviously.
(for the sake of argument we'll assume your wife or daughter is not an ugly smelly warty witch)
Quote: rxwine...oh and not to mention also the guy has a public recording of him talking about sexual assault. Defend him, but you should really be embarrassed to sign your name to that defense.
Quote:I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything.
He told us exactly what he does. Crazy that there are people who think he's a total liar when it comes to sexual assault and still support him
Quote: TomGHe told us exactly what he does. Crazy that there are people who think he's a total liar when it comes to sexual assault and still support him
Locker room talk. Big deal. Not like he bragged about shoving cocaine up his nose. If he loved abortion the people complaining would defend him to the end.
Quote: ams288I don’t think she sounds nuts at all.
I have the tendency to believe the accounts of women who have little to gain and lots to lose over a man who’s lies are literally measured in the thousands.
Little to gain????? Allegation comes out when it is time to SELL BOOKS!
By the way, every time I was raped I remember what year it was......
Quote: SOOPOOBy the way, every time I was raped I remember what year it was......
Good for you. Hopefully you were able to bring your rapist to justice. So many people are denied that opportunity.
