Evenbob's Roulette Thread
October 5th, 2023 at 10:14:15 AM
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That's not the formula for house edge.
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No it is not. A math guy gave me this formula years ago on Gamblers Glen as a simple way to figure out what my working edge is. It includes the zero per 100 bets and of course will be different if I was using a double zero wheel. It's easy enough to reverse engineer the number and come up with what that number means.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 5th, 2023 at 10:14:15 AM
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Double
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 5th, 2023 at 10:19:20 AM
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OD, I love the word TOSH and its usage. May I use it. please?
tuttigym
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October 5th, 2023 at 11:20:26 AM
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if used to describe EvenBob's content, you need to remember the 'utterly' or 'complete and utter' as prefixes.Quote: tuttigymOD, I love the word TOSH and its usage. May I use it. please?
tuttigym
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If you like 'Tosh', you might also like the descriptive noun 'Lobblocks' which is one of my own creation that I'm particularly proud of. 'Spout' is a pretty good verb to put in the mix.
Remember though that we only attack the content of EvenBob's posts (Which is easy and appropriate) And we don't attack EvenBob, which might be considered bullying or even 'elder abuse'
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
October 5th, 2023 at 12:04:16 PM
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Quote: OnceDearif used to describe EvenBob's content, you need to remember the 'utterly' or 'complete and utter' as prefixes.Quote: tuttigymOD, I love the word TOSH and its usage. May I use it. please?
tuttigym
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If you like 'Tosh', you might also like the descriptive noun 'Lobblocks' which is one of my own creation that I'm particularly proud of. 'Spout' is a pretty good verb to put in the mix.
Remember though that we only attack the content of EvenBob's posts (Which is easy and appropriate) And we don't attack EvenBob, which might be considered bullying or even 'elder abuse'
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OK for the adverbs, but for us colonials, Lobblocks and Spout doesn't quite get down and dirty.
"Elder abuse" for someone who is defying dementia with every post showing us all how incredibly sharp and quick he is? Hardly.
tuttigym
October 5th, 2023 at 12:44:57 PM
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LOL. Can we say someone is 'defying dementia'? Even as a compliment?Quote: tuttigym
"Elder abuse" for someone who is defying dementia with every post showing us all how incredibly sharp and quick he is? Hardly.
tuttigym
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Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
October 5th, 2023 at 2:44:09 PM
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Quote: tuttigym
"Elder abuse" for someone who is defying dementia with every post showing us all how incredibly sharp and quick he is? Hardly.
tuttigym
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Would I do everyday to the casino could be called senior abuse in that I abuse them every day. I'm afraid I'm not quite elderly yet, sorry to disappoint
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 5th, 2023 at 2:45:11 PM
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Quote: OnceDearLOL. Can we say someone is 'defying dementia'? Even as a compliment?Quote: tuttigym
"Elder abuse" for someone who is defying dementia with every post showing us all how incredibly sharp and quick he is? Hardly.
tuttigym
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Sure; it is a high compliment for us old folks.
tuttigym
October 5th, 2023 at 2:54:23 PM
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Quote: EvenBob
Would I do everyday to the casino could be called senior abuse in that I abuse them every day. I'm afraid I'm not quite elderly yet, sorry to disappoint
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Legally someone over the age of 65 is elderly. Aren't you in your 70s?
October 5th, 2023 at 3:02:57 PM
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Quote: TigerWu
Legally someone over the age of 65 is elderly. Aren't you in your 70s?
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On a realistic basis that only works for people who are usually past 80. Calling somebody 65 elderly to their face might not get the result you're hoping for. I've been around elderly people in their 80s and 90s, they are totally different than people in there 60s and '70s. But if you want to call yourself elderly at 65 knock yourself out.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 5th, 2023 at 3:46:40 PM
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Quote: OnceDearLOL. Can we say someone is 'defying dementia'? Even as a compliment?Quote: tuttigym
"Elder abuse" for someone who is defying dementia with every post showing us all how incredibly sharp and quick he is? Hardly.
tuttigym
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Seems a bit backhanded, like remarking how spry someone is.
May the cards fall in your favor.
October 5th, 2023 at 4:07:51 PM
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Quote: DieterQuote: OnceDearLOL. Can we say someone is 'defying dementia'? Even as a compliment?Quote: tuttigym
"Elder abuse" for someone who is defying dementia with every post showing us all how incredibly sharp and quick he is? Hardly.
tuttigym
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Seems a bit backhanded, like remarking how spry someone is.
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Yesterday, delivering to a client, we noted that it said 'Elderly lady alone' on the delivery sheet (Vulnerable clients or those that need assistance are so noted). My colleague thought he'd pay her a compliment and almost immediately, to her face, said "You don't look elderly at all". She was not amused and asked him to explain, to which he just kept digging a big hole for himself. I could barely control my bladder for laughing.
Sometimes compliments can be insults.
I see no evidence of anyone defying dementia at all.
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
October 6th, 2023 at 9:58:59 AM
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Quote: OnceDearQuote: DieterQuote: OnceDearLOL. Can we say someone is 'defying dementia'? Even as a compliment?Quote: tuttigym
"Elder abuse" for someone who is defying dementia with every post showing us all how incredibly sharp and quick he is? Hardly.
tuttigym
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Seems a bit backhanded, like remarking how spry someone is.
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Yesterday, delivering to a client, we noted that it said 'Elderly lady alone' on the delivery sheet (Vulnerable clients or those that need assistance are so noted). My colleague thought he'd pay her a compliment and almost immediately, to her face, said "You don't look elderly at all". She was not amused and asked him to explain, to which he just kept digging a big hole for himself. I could barely control my bladder for laughing.
Sometimes compliments can be insults.
I see no evidence of anyone defying dementia at all.
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It was meant as a compliment. As an octogenarian myself, I have received similar appraisals.
tuttigym
October 6th, 2023 at 10:11:58 AM
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Quote: tuttigym
It was meant as a compliment. As an octogenarian myself, I have received similar appraisals.
tuttigym
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Are you in touch with anyone off-forum regularly? I hope so. I couldn't imagine you just disappearing one day and then all of us having to worry about what happened to you. My fiancee will log in as me and let everyone know if anything happens to me. She'll probably be challenged to prove it with an obituary, as well. Maybe someone will actually want to see photographic evidence of my corpse; I couldn't blame them.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
October 6th, 2023 at 10:21:49 AM
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Quote: Mission146Quote: tuttigym
It was meant as a compliment. As an octogenarian myself, I have received similar appraisals.
tuttigym
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Are you in touch with anyone off-forum regularly? I hope so. I couldn't imagine you just disappearing one day and then all of us having to worry about what happened to you. My fiancee will log in as me and let everyone know if anything happens to me. She'll probably be challenged to prove it with an obituary, as well. Maybe someone will actually want to see photographic evidence of my corpse; I couldn't blame them.
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What a really nice post. THANK YOU.
I have no other social media interactions except this one. So, if there is some eminent warning of my demise, I will try to notify all.
tuttigym
October 6th, 2023 at 10:25:29 AM
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Quote: tuttigym
What a really nice post. THANK YOU.
I have no other social media interactions except this one. So, if there is some eminent warning of my demise, I will try to notify all.
tuttigym
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You're welcome. There are more than a few people such that I'd like to know what became of them. I've been here over ten years, as you know. It's a very long time and, in some cases, you find yourself missing even those you don't always get along with.
One always assumes the worst when someone just drops off the radar.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
October 6th, 2023 at 10:43:17 AM
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Quote: Mission146Quote: tuttigym
What a really nice post. THANK YOU.
I have no other social media interactions except this one. So, if there is some eminent warning of my demise, I will try to notify all.
tuttigym
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You're welcome. There are more than a few people such that I'd like to know what became of them. I've been here over ten years, as you know. It's a very long time and, in some cases, you find yourself missing even those you don't always get along with.
One always assumes the worst when someone just drops off the radar.
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Yeah like BBB and Face.
What happened to them? Any knowledge?
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
October 6th, 2023 at 10:57:27 AM
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Quote: darkoz
Yeah like BBB and Face.
What happened to them? Any knowledge?
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No, and no.
BBB popped in a few months ago and her participation had been decreasing over the period of a few years. She publicly posted about being her mother's caretaker, possible interactions with her ex-husband and, I believe (but don't quote me on) her own health issues.
I certainly wish her well, but haven't spoken to her off-forum anytime recently.
As far as Face goes, I'm not certain he and I have ever communicated off-forum, so I would have no idea. Face has not been logged in for more than two years and has not posted for more than three. His final posts were during the time that Covid started, or, I should hope that, 'Most recent posts,' is applicable rather than final.
Face has always been a very active individual who likes to be out doing things, but also lives in NY (I believe) which had some of the most stringent lockdowns. One can only assume that these same lockdowns might have had a negative effect on him. He posted on DT a few occasions after his most recent posts here, but not since late-2020. He also last visited DT around the same time as he last visited here, which was more than two years ago.
You could definitely shoot either a PM and see if they respond. I'll probably PM Face. As you might know, I was openly critical of Babs' handling of your posts (and implication that you were to be Nuked) back when you were discussing certain plays. Even if you were discussing them purely as a revenge tactic, which I doubt, I have already publicly stated that you CAN'T nuke someone from a gambling forum for discussing gambling, whilst following all other rules and also that you were goaded into it even if it had been for revenge.
For those reasons, I suspect that BBB absolutely does NOT wish to hear from me. Given (public) lack of responses to me in other instances, I assume this to be true. I do wish her well in all things and hope that things have improved for her since the last time she posted about her various troubles.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
October 6th, 2023 at 11:34:33 AM
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Quote: Mission146Maybe someone will actually want to see photographic evidence of my corpse; I couldn't blame them.
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Just post it now, and we’ll save it for the appropriate time.
There's no secret. Just know what you're talking about before you open your mouth.
October 6th, 2023 at 11:45:45 AM
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Quote: Mission146Quote: darkoz
Yeah like BBB and Face.
What happened to them? Any knowledge?
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No, and no.
BBB popped in a few months ago and her participation had been decreasing over the period of a few years. She publicly posted about being her mother's caretaker, possible interactions with her ex-husband and, I believe (but don't quote me on) her own health issues.
I certainly wish her well, but haven't spoken to her off-forum anytime recently.
As far as Face goes, I'm not certain he and I have ever communicated off-forum, so I would have no idea. Face has not been logged in for more than two years and has not posted for more than three. His final posts were during the time that Covid started, or, I should hope that, 'Most recent posts,' is applicable rather than final.
Face has always been a very active individual who likes to be out doing things, but also lives in NY (I believe) which had some of the most stringent lockdowns. One can only assume that these same lockdowns might have had a negative effect on him. He posted on DT a few occasions after his most recent posts here, but not since late-2020. He also last visited DT around the same time as he last visited here, which was more than two years ago.
You could definitely shoot either a PM and see if they respond. I'll probably PM Face. As you might know, I was openly critical of Babs' handling of your posts (and implication that you were to be Nuked) back when you were discussing certain plays. Even if you were discussing them purely as a revenge tactic, which I doubt, I have already publicly stated that you CAN'T nuke someone from a gambling forum for discussing gambling, whilst following all other rules and also that you were goaded into it even if it had been for revenge.
For those reasons, I suspect that BBB absolutely does NOT wish to hear from me. Given (public) lack of responses to me in other instances, I assume this to be true. I do wish her well in all things and hope that things have improved for her since the last time she posted about her various troubles.
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Yes I do remember you going to bat for me. I believe I thanked you but if not count this as thanks
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
October 6th, 2023 at 1:26:10 PM
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Quote: rxwineQuote: Mission146Maybe someone will actually want to see photographic evidence of my corpse; I couldn't blame them.
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Just post it now, and we’ll save it for the appropriate time.
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Haha! Nice!
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
October 6th, 2023 at 1:27:02 PM
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Quote: darkozQuote: Mission146
Yes I do remember you going to bat for me. I believe I thanked you but if not count this as thanks
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You're quite welcome and you have thanked me; I was simply explaining why I wouldn't expect BBB to respond to me.https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
October 6th, 2023 at 4:46:08 PM
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Quote: tuttigymQuote: Mission146Quote: tuttigym
It was meant as a compliment. As an octogenarian myself, I have received similar appraisals.
tuttigym
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Are you in touch with anyone off-forum regularly? I hope so. I couldn't imagine you just disappearing one day and then all of us having to worry about what happened to you. My fiancee will log in as me and let everyone know if anything happens to me. She'll probably be challenged to prove it with an obituary, as well. Maybe someone will actually want to see photographic evidence of my corpse; I couldn't blame them.
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What a really nice post. THANK YOU.
I have no other social media interactions except this one. So, if there is some eminent warning of my demise, I will try to notify all.
tuttigym
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It may be prudent to add a note to your papers that your next of kin should email your username and a link to an obituary to one of the "secret" email addresses.
I know when I went into the hospital a few months ago, there was a real possibility that the only way anyone would have known what happened was a relay of scant details from a text message that got through and an utter lack of further communication.
May our coffins be made from a hundred year old oak tree that we plant tomorrow.
May the cards fall in your favor.
October 7th, 2023 at 9:21:24 PM
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Since you had to quote a textbook definition, I will take that as a NO. Reading something and kinda understanding it vs really getting it, is two completely different things.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolf
Do you understand the significance of 4.5 standard deviations?
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"A data point that is 4.5 standard deviations from the mean is highly unusual and significant in statistical terms. It suggests a level of deviation from the norm that is rarely observed and is often an indication of something noteworthy in the data."
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
October 7th, 2023 at 9:49:29 PM
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I have suspected for a long time that Bob asks someone, or half-assed reaseaches the math and gambling terms etc but he really doesn't understand them at all. He really doesn't seem to understand the questions being asked, but he will attempts to answer those questions using whatever information he attempted to gather. Oftentimes applies the wrong answers to the wrong questions.Quote: OnceDearQuote: AxelWolfYOU calculated it? I am highly skeptical of that claim, but let's go with it. I seem to recall some mention of 56% before regarding this.Quote: EvenBob
By the way I calculated my edge over the casino when I use a certain method and it's 56%. On a single zero wheel. The casino's edge when betting randomly against random outcomes is just over 2%. My edge when betting non randomly is 56%.
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How did you arrive at 56% "SHOW US THE MATHY"
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Since there is Buck All chance that EvenBob will show any calculations, I WILL. I'll take EB's final answer as true and work back.
For an even money wager on single zero roulette without 'la partage' rule....
House Edge= -Player Edge = -(WinValue x Pwin - LoseValue x Plose)
and the answer with accepted probabilities is
0.027 = -(1 x 18/37 - 1 x 19/37)
But EvenBob claims that does not apply to him, with his CALCULATED PLAYER edge of 56% = 0.56
So we have to evaluate Pwin and Plose for EB.
Player Edge = 0.56 = -(-( WinValue x Pwin - LoseValue x Plose))
We know WinValue = LoseValue =1 so
0.56 = -(-( 1xPwin - 1xPlose))
0.56 = (Pwin-PLose)
and we KNOW 1-Pwin=Plose
So
0.56 = (Pwin - (1-Pwin))
0.56 = 2Pwin - 1
0.56 + 1 = 2Pwin
Pwin = (1.56)/2
Pwin = 0.78 = 78%
SO.
If EvenBob's claim of 56% Player Edge is true, he his winning 78% of his even money bets.
That's within spitting distance of the 80% hit rate that he falsely claims.
Let's work it forward from claimed hit rate of 80%
Player Edge = ( WinValue x Pwin - LoseValue x Plose)
Player Edge = 1x0.8 - 1x0.2 =0.6 = 60%
Therefore I conclude that EvenBob is backtracking a bit on his claimed 80% hit rate and only achieves 78% hit rate.
Now. He states the Standard Deviation on his 56% is about 4 or 5. I take it he means SD = 4% to 5% NOT that he is doing anything 4 or 5 standard deviations away from the mean.
I would LOVE to see how he derives SD of about 4% to 5%. If ever there was a challenge. That is it.
Footnote:
Everything about any of EvenBob's claims, numbers, or math is complete nonsense. I just did this exercise as a courtesy to AxelWolf who wanted to know how 56% could be arrived at.
EvenBob has no player advantage of 56%. EvenBob has no player advantage. PERIOD.
EvenBob has NOTHING. If he plays roulette, he has less than nothing.
ANYONE claiming a 56% player advantage over roulette should be called out as claiming the absurd. Such claims MUST not go unchallenged.
It's nonsense. Some say Bullspit and some say Lies or Delusions. EvenBob ( and only EvenBob ) says it's true.
DYOR.
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I.E. he claims flat betting while using progressive betting systems.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
October 8th, 2023 at 2:18:30 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfSince you had to quote a textbook definition, I will take that as a NO. Reading something and kinda understanding it vs really getting it, is two completely different things.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolf
Do you understand the significance of 4.5 standard deviations?
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"A data point that is 4.5 standard deviations from the mean is highly unusual and significant in statistical terms. ...
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AxelWolf,
Something happened here that you may not have realised the significance of, but which supports your observation. Read carefully.
So, first we have EvenB assert that his calculated his player advantage as 56%.
Then Unjon asked...
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What do you calculate the standard deviation of that edge to be?
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to which EvenBob replied ...
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I ran it through an AI and it's between four and five.
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Note carefully that EvenBob did NOT say his 56% was 4 or 5 standard deviations away from any other value, such as the accepted mean of -2.7%, but he stated the SD as having a value of 4 to 5. He didn't use the % symbol, probably because he did not understand the value he was giving. Taking the 5 value, to a mathematician or scientist, EvenBob was saying that 'within one sd, his player advantage is 56% +/- 5%
But then Axelwolf seemed to misinterpret EB's reply and said ...
Quote: AxelWolfWhat data did you enter to get between 4 and 5 SD's?
Do you understand the significance of 4.5 standard deviations?
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Which, as I mentioned above is a misinterpretation of EvenBob's assertion. EB had said that the VALUE of sd was in the range 4 to 5 and did NOT say that he was 4 to 5 standard deviations away from the mean.
So what did EB do? Did he come back and correct AxelWolf, saying that he had quoted his sd as being 4 to 5 and what the heck has that got to do with 'significance of 4.5 standard deviations? ' Does he hell!
Because EvenBob did not show understanding of his own 4 to 5 value and shows no understanding of AxelWolf's errant question. No. What EvenBob does is find a quote that talks about a result that's 4.5 standard deviations away from the mean...
"A data point that is 4.5 standard deviations from the mean is highly unusual and significant in statistical terms...."
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/3831-how-much-gamble-do-you-have/14/#post903062
Why would EB answer the totally inappropriate question if he understood the topic at all?
I assert that EvenBob has no understanding of what Standard deviation means, how it is expressed and how it is used.
Is Evenbob's Edge 56% +/- (4 to 5)%
or is it 56% being 4 to 5 standard deviations away from the accepted mean value of -2.7%
There are ways to calculate (estimate) the standard deviation of 4% to 5% quoted above, but EvenBob won't have any idea how that is done. Here's a clue. It involves sample size.
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
October 8th, 2023 at 2:30:39 AM
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"I assert that EvenBob has no understanding of what Standard deviation means, how it is expressed and how it is used."
that's undoubtedly true
I'm repeating myself - but maybe worth it -
he does have a great understanding of how to draw attention to himself
a much higher % of posts are either his or about his fallacious posts than anyone else on the forum
this is what he loves and craves - being the center of attention - it's all about EB - he finds himself to be fascinating
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quote - OnceDear -
"I assert that EvenBob has no understanding of what Standard deviation means, how it is expressed and how it is used."
that's undoubtedly true
I'm repeating myself - but maybe worth it -
he does have a great understanding of how to draw attention to himself
a much higher % of posts are either his or about his fallacious posts than anyone else on the forum
this is what he loves and craves - being the center of attention - it's all about EB - he finds himself to be fascinating
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Please don't feed the trolls
October 8th, 2023 at 3:07:47 AM
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He might very well find himself to be fanonating(Who knows?). Unless I say that he will caim that he doesn't he himself fanonating he will say that he doesn't find himself fanonating.Quote: lilredrooster.
quote - OnceDear -
"I assert that EvenBob has no understanding of what Standard deviation means, how it is expressed and how it is used."
that's undoubtedly true
I'm repeating myself - but maybe worth it -
he does have a great understanding of how to draw attention to himself
a much higher % of posts are either his or about his fallacious posts than anyone else on the forum
this is what he loves and craves - being the center of attention - it's all about EB - he finds himself to be fascinating
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Now that I said that, he will say he does?
Bob doesn't like when you predict what he will say and he will oftentimes just say the opposite.
Perhaps he will just ignore the "Bob finds himself fanonating" commentss, thats probably best. Certainly he is all confused on how he should address your comment now.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
October 8th, 2023 at 3:40:55 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfHe might very well find himself to be fanonating(Who knows?). . . caim . . . fanonating . . . fanonating.
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What's Fanonating?
Short form of "(F)reakin'(Anon)ymousMastic(ating)
$;o)
Is your spill chucker broken?
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
October 8th, 2023 at 5:24:28 AM
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I believe it was the Great Pumpkin who said: Feed the feeble, ignore the trolls.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
October 8th, 2023 at 5:34:09 AM
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Hello!! It's great that you have found a playing style that works for you and that you feel comfortable with. There's nothing wrong with being a solid edge player, and it's perfectly fine to prioritize minimizing risk over taking bold risks.
That being said, it's also worth recognizing that having some level of "gamble" or aggression in your play can be beneficial in certain situations. For example, in Blackjack, being willing to double down or split pairs can help you take advantage of favorable situations and increase your expected value. Same with, in Poker, being willing to make a bold bluff or play a speculative hand can help you build the pot and maximize your winnings.
Of course, it's important to balance this aggression with sound strategy and risk management. You shouldn't be taking unnecessary risks or playing recklessly, but rather looking for opportunities to take calculated risks that will give you an edge in the long run.
It's also worth noting that having a low level of "gamble" doesn't necessarily mean you're not a skilled player. Many successful players are very conservative in their playstyle and focus on exploiting small edges over a large number of hands. This approach can be just as effective as a more aggressive style, especially in the long run.
So, the key is to find a playing style that fits your personality and preferences while still allowing you to maximize your expected value. If you're happy with your current approach, then that's great! Just remember to continue learning and adapting to new situations, and don't be afraid to mix things up a bit if you feel like it's necessary.
That being said, it's also worth recognizing that having some level of "gamble" or aggression in your play can be beneficial in certain situations. For example, in Blackjack, being willing to double down or split pairs can help you take advantage of favorable situations and increase your expected value. Same with, in Poker, being willing to make a bold bluff or play a speculative hand can help you build the pot and maximize your winnings.
Of course, it's important to balance this aggression with sound strategy and risk management. You shouldn't be taking unnecessary risks or playing recklessly, but rather looking for opportunities to take calculated risks that will give you an edge in the long run.
It's also worth noting that having a low level of "gamble" doesn't necessarily mean you're not a skilled player. Many successful players are very conservative in their playstyle and focus on exploiting small edges over a large number of hands. This approach can be just as effective as a more aggressive style, especially in the long run.
So, the key is to find a playing style that fits your personality and preferences while still allowing you to maximize your expected value. If you're happy with your current approach, then that's great! Just remember to continue learning and adapting to new situations, and don't be afraid to mix things up a bit if you feel like it's necessary.
October 13th, 2023 at 8:43:30 AM
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Quote: darkozSelf reflexive. It's OK Bob. Thanks for admitting you don't know it, you think it, you hope it but you don't know it.
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The fact that you don't understand just how absurd it is to claim you can correctly guess something with a 48.6% chance of happening at an 80% hit rate is mind-boggling.
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Unless you're actually doing it then it's mind-bogglingly boring. It's not what you think it is because I know you think what's happening is I just sit there and bet and bet and bet at an 80% rate. The absolute polar opposite is true as that I've tried to explain a thousand times. I bet very very seldom so 80% is not unreasonable at all.
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If y'all want to argue about EB's fraudulent losing gambling system, do it here. Let's keep the pollution at least a little confined.
October 16th, 2023 at 12:37:33 PM
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thas whats so greats abouts gamblin forums. Iffen a man payz attenshun to peoples likes EB he cans shure learns hisself a great deal
he can shure get hisself a good and real educayshun
he will shure nuff be a learnin hisself on how to beats up on them there casinos - EZ as pie
an do you knows what the bess thing about it all is___________???
𝙄𝙏𝙕 𝘼𝙇𝙇 𝙏𝙊𝘼𝙏𝙐𝙇𝙇𝙔 𝙁𝙍𝙀𝙀____________________________Ahm a referencing to all of the valuable informations that gets a given outs
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thas whats so greats abouts gamblin forums. Iffen a man payz attenshun to peoples likes EB he cans shure learns hisself a great deal
he can shure get hisself a good and real educayshun
he will shure nuff be a learnin hisself on how to beats up on them there casinos - EZ as pie
an do you knows what the bess thing about it all is___________???
𝙄𝙏𝙕 𝘼𝙇𝙇 𝙏𝙊𝘼𝙏𝙐𝙇𝙇𝙔 𝙁𝙍𝙀𝙀____________________________Ahm a referencing to all of the valuable informations that gets a given outs
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Please don't feed the trolls
October 16th, 2023 at 12:59:21 PM
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thas whats so greats abouts gamblin forums. Iffen a man payz attenshun to peoples likes EB he cans shure learns hisself a great deal
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You bumped this rubbish thread for this?
Bring on the AI bots.
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
October 16th, 2023 at 1:02:20 PM
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Quote: OnceDearQuote: lilredrooster.
thas whats so greats abouts gamblin forums. Iffen a man payz attenshun to peoples likes EB he cans shure learns hisself a great deal
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You bumped this rubbish thread for this?
Bring on the AI bots.
it was supposed to be humorous
you didn't find it humorous______?
I guess not
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Please don't feed the trolls
October 16th, 2023 at 1:04:44 PM
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Must have lost something in the translationQuote: lilredroosterQuote: OnceDearQuote: lilredrooster.
thas whats so greats abouts gamblin forums. Iffen a man payz attenshun to peoples likes EB he cans shure learns hisself a great deal
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You bumped this rubbish thread for this?
Bring on the AI bots.
it was supposed to be humorous
you didn't find it humorous______?
I guess not
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Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
October 16th, 2023 at 1:58:12 PM
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The next time I'm in a casino I'm going to play all the games I've never played before.
I'm going to make one bet, and if I win, I'll never play that game again.
That way I can claim a 100% hit rate, and brag that my "method" is better than EB's paltry 80% hit rate.
I'm going to make one bet, and if I win, I'll never play that game again.
That way I can claim a 100% hit rate, and brag that my "method" is better than EB's paltry 80% hit rate.
October 16th, 2023 at 2:36:00 PM
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Quote: TigerWuThe next time I'm in a casino I'm going to play all the games I've never played before.
I'm going to make one bet, and if I win, I'll never play that game again.
That way I can claim a 100% hit rate, and brag that my "method" is better than EB's paltry 80% hit rate.
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Is this anything like how I haven't lost a hand of blackjack in years?
May the cards fall in your favor.
October 16th, 2023 at 2:46:24 PM
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Quote: DieterQuote: TigerWuThe next time I'm in a casino I'm going to play all the games I've never played before.
I'm going to make one bet, and if I win, I'll never play that game again.
That way I can claim a 100% hit rate, and brag that my "method" is better than EB's paltry 80% hit rate.
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Is this anything like how I haven't lost a hand of blackjack in years?
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October 17th, 2023 at 5:34:49 PM
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Quote: TigerWu
That way I can claim a 100% hit rate, and brag that my "method" is better than EB's paltry 80% hit rate.
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Speaking of the paltry 80%, nobody has considered that this makes for a lot of long winning streaks. The longest one I was aware of was 42 in a row without a loss. It happened over about a 12-day stretch., but that's very exceptional. It's not unusual to have 14 or 16 or 18 in a row without a loss but 42 is my record. And of course if there is a loss or even two losses in a row recovery is extremely fast. In fact this is what I was shooting for in all those years of practicing, an exceptionally high hit rate. I'm not a gambler so winning is the only thing that appeals to me, playing is very boring and I want to keep it as short as possible. Lots of people say that winning is important to them but it's really not nearly as important as playing playing playing. I'm after the winning, you can take the playing and give it a long walk on a short pier as far as I'm concerned..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 17th, 2023 at 6:46:27 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: TigerWu
That way I can claim a 100% hit rate, and brag that my "method" is better than EB's paltry 80% hit rate.
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Speaking of the paltry 80%, nobody has considered that this makes for a lot of long winning streaks. The longest one I was aware of was 42 in a row without a loss. It happened over about a 12-day stretch., but that's very exceptional. It's not unusual to have 14 or 16 or 18 in a row without a loss but 42 is my record. And of course if there is a loss or even two losses in a row recovery is extremely fast. In fact this is what I was shooting for in all those years of practicing, an exceptionally high hit rate. I'm not a gambler so winning is the only thing that appeals to me, playing is very boring and I want to keep it as short as possible. Lots of people say that winning is important to them but it's really not nearly as important as playing playing playing. I'm after the winning, you can take the playing and give it a long walk on a short pier as far as I'm concerned..
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Yo!!! 42 in a row.... Axel will be with you shortly.
October 17th, 2023 at 6:54:13 PM
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I turned $600 into $9,000 playing on my Roku BJ game last night but quickly lost back to $600 again then won back to $6,000 then lost again down to $1,500. I played 946 hands in 83 minutes and bet a total of $212K with an average bet around $225. My minimum bet was $30 and my maximum bet was $600. I didn't use a progression on each win. I didn't count cards. I even deviated from basic strategy to attempt to change up a losing streak here and there.
October 17th, 2023 at 7:03:40 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: TigerWu
That way I can claim a 100% hit rate, and brag that my "method" is better than EB's paltry 80% hit rate.
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Speaking of the paltry 80%, nobody has considered that this makes for a lot of long winning streaks. The longest one I was aware of was 42 in a row without a loss. It happened over about a 12-day stretch., but that's very exceptional. It's not unusual to have 14 or 16 or 18 in a row without a loss but 42 is my record. And of course if there is a loss or even two losses in a row recovery is extremely fast. In fact this is what I was shooting for in all those years of practicing, an exceptionally high hit rate. I'm not a gambler so winning is the only thing that appeals to me, playing is very boring and I want to keep it as short as possible. Lots of people say that winning is important to them but it's really not nearly as important as playing playing playing. I'm after the winning, you can take the playing and give it a long walk on a short pier as far as I'm concerned..
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Nobody believes you.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
October 17th, 2023 at 7:25:32 PM
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Quote: billryan
Nobody believes you.
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And that changes the reality of it how exactly. Your personal belief about something has absolutely nothing to do with whether it's true or not. That's just your opinion, and we all know what opinions are worth. This is why I never challenge anything Mdawg claims in his thread because that would just be my opinion and my opinion is basically worthless because I don't know enough about what he does. So I always give him the benefit of the doubt.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 17th, 2023 at 11:43:58 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: billryan
Nobody believes you.
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And that changes the reality of it how exactly. Your personal belief about something has absolutely nothing to do with whether it's true or not. That's just your opinion, and we all know what opinions are worth. This is why I never challenge anything Mdawg claims in his thread because that would just be my opinion and my opinion is basically worthless because I don't know enough about what he does. So I always give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Your method is worth less than your opinion. You might have some credibility if you expressed doubt about dubious claims instead of making up your own.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
October 18th, 2023 at 4:57:02 AM
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we could summ that up in one word. I'll use the other one : Untrue,Quote: EvenBobQuote: TigerWu
That way I can claim a 100% hit rate, and brag that my "method" is better than EB's paltry 80% hit rate.
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Speaking of the paltry 80%, nobody has considered that this makes for a lot of long winning streaks. The longest one I was aware of was 42 in a row without a loss. It happened over about a 12-day stretch., but that's very exceptional. It's not unusual to have 14 or 16 or 18 in a row without a loss but 42 is my record. And of course if there is a loss or even two losses in a row recovery is extremely fast. In fact this is what I was shooting for in all those years of practicing, an exceptionally high hit rate. I'm not a gambler so winning is the only thing that appeals to me, playing is very boring and I want to keep it as short as possible. Lots of people say that winning is important to them but it's really not nearly as important as playing playing playing. I'm after the winning, you can take the playing and give it a long walk on a short pier as far as I'm concerned..
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Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
October 18th, 2023 at 7:06:03 AM
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Quote: EvenBobThe longest one I was aware of was 42 in a row without a loss.
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Was this on an even money bet?
October 18th, 2023 at 8:09:59 AM
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Quote: TigerWuQuote: EvenBobThe longest one I was aware of was 42 in a row without a loss.
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Was this on an even money bet?
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When playing for real money I only make even money bets. For the 100th time I never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever use a progression when betting real money. I only do it when I'm playing around at Penny roulette for fun betting well, pennies.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 18th, 2023 at 8:11:29 AM
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Your method is worth less than your opinion.
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Actually the polar opposite is true.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
October 18th, 2023 at 8:28:12 AM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: billryan
Your method is worth less than your opinion.
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Actually the polar opposite is true.
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Did you kill all seven with one blow?
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
