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September 28th, 2023 at 11:12:13 AM permalink
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So the wager is to see if EB gets lucky?
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There is no wager and luck is just another word for variance and when the variance is bad I don't play.
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September 28th, 2023 at 11:16:32 AM permalink
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Again, what happens if you lose?
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What if I lose the $1,000? It won't happen, but the fact that you keep asking this means you don't understand how this works. What do you think will happen if I lost the 1,000.
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September 28th, 2023 at 11:18:27 AM permalink
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Oh great, you will swear him to secrecy
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Will I? Should I? You have no idea what's going to happen but that won't stop you from conspiracy theorizing..
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September 28th, 2023 at 11:19:31 AM permalink
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So the wager is to see if EB gets lucky?
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There is no wager and luck is just another word for variance and when the variance is bad I don't play.
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So the person, Wizard or whomever is putting up a thousand dollars NOT to wager.

And you only play when the variance (luck) is known to be good in advance. So basically you don't play.
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September 28th, 2023 at 11:20:38 AM permalink
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Oh great, you will swear him to secrecy
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Will I? Should I? You have no idea what's going to happen but that won't stop you from conspiracy theorizing..
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Or you could just answer the question.
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September 28th, 2023 at 11:22:32 AM permalink
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So the wager is to see if EB gets lucky?
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There is no wager and luck is just another word for variance and when the variance is bad I don't play.
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Wonderful.

Why is it that almost no one here understands your proposal? Normally when 10 people don't understand what you are saying it's probably dues to the fact that YOU haven't explained yourself correctly.

I'll ask again, aside from someone putting up 1k as seed money are you offering a 100% free roll?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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September 28th, 2023 at 11:24:11 AM permalink
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Oh great, you will swear him to secrecy
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Will I? Should I? You have no idea what's going to happen but that won't stop you from conspiracy theorizing..
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I'm just going on past history to guess future results like you claim to do.
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September 28th, 2023 at 11:26:37 AM permalink
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Again, what happens if you lose?
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What if I lose the $1,000? It won't happen, but the fact that you keep asking this means you don't understand how this works. What do you think will happen if I lost the 1,000.
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I haven't any clue. I admit, I don't know how this works, that's why I keep asking.
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September 28th, 2023 at 11:31:28 AM permalink
It's entertaining going over some of these old roulette cards from 15 years ago from the casino. Some days I would make 18 or 20 or 25 units and the next time I went I would make two units. It was very confusing for me because I didn't know what was going on like I do now. I always thought it was my fault that I was doing something wrong. I didn't realize that it was because the outcomes were not playing my specific game which is blatantly obvious now but it's amazing how the obvious can escape you. I remember reading about Thomas Edison trying 3,000 different types of material for the light bulb filament before he finally found the right one. Later on it was obvious to him that some of the things he tried were ridiculous but it was not obvious at the time. In hindsight everything looks different.

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September 28th, 2023 at 11:35:54 AM permalink
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So the person, Wizard or whomever is putting up a thousand dollars NOT to wager.

And you only play when the variance (luck) is known to be good in advance. So basically you don't play.
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When you put it that way I guess it's a wager. And that's exactly right, I only play when the variance is in my favor and when it's not I don't play. This is why suggesting that I might lose is so ludicrous.
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September 28th, 2023 at 11:39:45 AM permalink
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I'll ask again, aside from someone putting up 1k as seed money are you offering a 100% free roll?
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Good grief. Someone gives me $1,000, I turn it into $1,500 and give the $1,500 to them. If the absolute impossible happens and I lose, they get the $1,000 that is in escrow. So yes it's an obvious freeroll. I make nothing from this transaction and it doesn't cost me anything either except some time. But I am buying something with that time. Guess what that would be.
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September 28th, 2023 at 11:40:47 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

It's entertaining going over some of these old roulette cards from 15 years ago from the casino. Some days I would make 18 or 20 or 25 units and the next time I went I would make two units. It was very confusing for me because I didn't know what was going on like I do now. I always thought it was my fault that I was doing something wrong. I didn't realize that it was because the outcomes were not playing my specific game which is blatantly obvious now but it's amazing how the obvious can escape you. I remember reading about Thomas Edison trying 3,000 different types of material for the light bulb filament before he finally found the right one. Later on it was obvious to him that some of the things he tried were ridiculous but it was not obvious at the time. In hindsight everything looks different.


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Yeah.
Also obvious trolls are obvious. But what else is new.
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September 28th, 2023 at 11:41:32 AM permalink
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]I'm just going on past history
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But you don't know all the details of the past history you just think you do.
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September 28th, 2023 at 11:55:12 AM permalink
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I'll ask again, aside from someone putting up 1k as seed money are you offering a 100% free roll?
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Good grief. Someone gives me $1,000, I turn it into $1,500 and give the $1,500 to them. If the absolute impossible happens and I lose, they get the $1,000 that is in escrow. So yes it's an obvious freeroll. I make nothing from this transaction and it doesn't cost me anything either except some time. But I am buying something with that time. Guess what that would be.
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An extra large Baloney?
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September 28th, 2023 at 11:58:07 AM permalink
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I need it explained because it's such an underwhelming claim
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Actually I thought there would be more pushback than there's been. I thought I would hear Bob, this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Bob, nobody cares if you can do this or not. Bob, anybody can do this, which of course SooPoo has already claimed and he's got some ding dong bet going that he thinks I'm going to get involved in but I'm afraid I've moved on from double dare you bets that kids do when they're 10 years old.
Of course I'm waiting for Mike to get back, he gets first crack at this because he's the only person on this entire Forum that I trust entirely. If he doesn't want to do it personally then I'll pick somebody else but this kind of thing is right up his alley so we'll see.
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We are told that if EB succeeds, the 500 profit goes to the challenger. But the challenger would have lost in his wager with EB, so what becomes of the funds he sent? Is that EB's reward?

Mike would have to be insane to have an even money bet with EB that EB can't achieve a 60% likely event.

None of what EB is clear and none of it will happen. Just more distraction.

No meaningful challenge. Just more Yada Yada.


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September 28th, 2023 at 12:03:28 PM permalink
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]I'm just going on past history
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But you don't know all the details of the past history you just think you do.
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What's sad is that most everyone knows the details of the past history. And understands it better than you do.

I for instance remember Lawrence Scott and Forester and Snowman and others' legit roulette AP's takes on your psychosomatic logorrhea.
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September 28th, 2023 at 12:04:30 PM permalink
So just to be clear.

If EB fails to turn $1000 into $1500 the details of his failure WILL be disclosed?

I know EB says he won't fail but that means the same thing. No matter what the details will be disclosed.

In essence EB, what you are saying is, no matter what the details, the outcome WILL be disclosed (because you claim you can't fail then the details must be disclosed) even if you do fail.
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September 28th, 2023 at 12:14:44 PM permalink
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We are told that if EB succeeds, the 500 profit goes to the challenger. But the challenger would have lost in his wager with EB, so what becomes of the funds he sent? Is that EB's reward?
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No, the challenger puts up $1,000 in escrow, presumably with Mike. EB also puts up $1,000 in escrow.

If EB accomplishes the challenge, the challenger gets $1,500.

If EB fails the challenge, the challenger gets $1,000.

It's literally a no-lose situation for everyone involved - the challenger can't lose money and stands to gain $500, and EB proves to the forum that he can turn $1,000 into $1,500 by playing roulette, which many here doubt he can do.

On top of that, he claims he will post the results of all the bets that take the bankroll from $1,000 to $1,500.
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September 28th, 2023 at 12:19:19 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

So just to be clear.

If EB fails to turn $1000 into $1500 the details of his failure WILL be disclosed?

I know EB says he won't fail but that means the same thing. No matter what the details will be disclosed.

In essence EB, what you are saying is, no matter what the details, the outcome WILL be disclosed (because you claim you can't fail then the details must be disclosed) even if you do fail.
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I see that EB has now painted himself into a freeroll corner.

Still nothing will happen. No demonstration of anything. Unless EB treasures this thread so much that he's happy to take a 33% chance to pay $1000 to humiliate himself.

I see he's already tried to persuade us to forget the 80% claim. To put that behind us and accept something meaningless. Just like when he posted the nickle and dime progressives results.
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September 28th, 2023 at 12:24:23 PM permalink
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On top of that, he claims he will post the results of all the bets that take the bankroll from $1,000 to $1,500.
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or from $1000 to $0.

Of course, when he finds himself down to 100, maybe the 'table won't be playing his game'. Or maybe he'll get 86'd.

No meaningful challenge will occur.
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September 28th, 2023 at 12:33:50 PM permalink
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We are told that if EB succeeds, the 500 profit goes to the challenger. But the challenger would have lost in his wager with EB, so what becomes of the funds he sent? Is that EB's reward?
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No, the challenger puts up $1,000 in escrow, presumably with Mike. EB also puts up $1,000 in escrow.

If EB accomplishes the challenge, the challenger gets $1,500.

If EB fails the challenge, the challenger gets $1,000.

It's literally a no-lose situation for everyone involved - the challenger can't lose money and stands to gain $500, and EB proves to the forum that he can turn $1,000 into $1,500 by playing roulette, which many here doubt he can do.

On top of that, he claims he will post the results of all the bets that take the bankroll from $1,000 to $1,500.
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That's exactly how I interpreted it. Bob said no one would accept because they don't want to know the truth. Well, I accept, and I will send or give Mike 1k based on my understanding. I don't care how he achieves his goal. If He wins me $500, I will contribute $250 to the forum for one of Mike's' screw your neighbor type of games or whatever. Perhaps a free roulette tournament. Who knows but $250 will be given back to the forum members.
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September 28th, 2023 at 12:37:36 PM permalink
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September 28th, 2023 at 12:43:51 PM permalink
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I still don't know what you would stand to lose in your challenge, test, trial, demonstration... or whatever the suitable name is.
A put-up-or-shut-up would seem to require all participants be subject to an element of risk.
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No risk. I will put up $1,000 in escrow against the $1,000 put up by the Challenger so they have no risk whatsoever. Now SooPoo will say, haha, Bob doesn't have $1,000, Bob doesn't play roulette, Bob doesn't do this and Bob doesn't do that. Like he would know. Here's a picture I just took 10 minutes ago of $1,000 with the date, WoV and my name. If this isn't good enough give me a code word and I'll take another picture with the code in it. What do I stand to lose, I don't stand to lose anything, I'm going to make $500 for the Challenger to show that I can do it. If you don't think that proves something, let me know and I'll think of something else. I posted my test results from the casino, nobody believed it. I posted my roulette cards from a real casino and real play for real money and everybody said haha, big deal. Now we're letting money talk we'll see how that goes. My guess is it's going to be rejected because you people don't want to know the truth.


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This already sounds more legitimate than I understood your original post to suggest.

It also sounds like there are more details to work out.

I'll graciously sit in the corner and shut up for a bit.
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Now is where you should step in. Bob made a challenge to the forum. I ask that you clarify the challenge and then hold him to the offer, or take action for renigging.
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September 28th, 2023 at 12:47:09 PM permalink
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That's exactly how I interpreted it. Bob said no one would accept because they don't want to know the truth. Well, I accept, and I will send or give Mike 1k based on my understanding. I don't care how he achieves his goal. If He wins me $500, I will contribute $250 to the forum for one of Mike's' screw your neighbor type of games or whatever. Perhaps a free roulette tournament. Who knows but $250 will be given back to the forum members.
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I would also put up $1,000, and donate $250 of the winnings to charity. I would also change my signature to read "I gave EvenBob $1,000 and he won me $500 with his Roulette method in ____ days!" and keep it that way for a year.

EB said if Mike doesn't take the offer he will pick someone else. So now he has at least two people to pick from.

Anyone else want to get on the list?
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September 28th, 2023 at 1:22:56 PM permalink
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EB said if Mike doesn't take the offer he will pick someone else. So now he has at least two people to pick from.

Anyone else want to get on the list?
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Anyone care to make an educated guess what comes next?

It rhymes with Duck Call.

Still, it will be fun watching EB's next maneuver

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September 28th, 2023 at 1:28:52 PM permalink
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No, the challenger puts up $1,000 in escrow, presumably with Mike. EB also puts up $1,000 in escrow.

If EB accomplishes the challenge, the challenger gets $1,500.

If EB fails the challenge, the challenger gets $1,000.

It's literally a no-lose situation for everyone involved - the challenger can't lose money and stands to gain $500, and EB proves to the forum that he can turn $1,000 into $1,500 by playing roulette, which many here doubt he can do.

On top of that, he claims he will post the results of all the bets that take the bankroll from $1,000 to $1,500.
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The only thing wrong with this is I will put $1,000 in escrow. The Challenger will deposit $1,000 into my PayPal account for me to play with. The $1,000 in escrow is to guarantee the Challenger will get his money back no matter what happens. I'm sure Mike will do this part of it, the escrow part, even if he doesn't want to be the Challenger. When I think about it the best thing to do will be for the Challenger to send the $1,000 to Mike and he can put it in my PayPal account. This way everything is covered and we even have somebody everybody can trust in the middle of it. I trust Mike completely. Way back when he was collecting money from donations I sent him $100 and he refunded it after he sold WoV. He didn't have to do that.
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September 28th, 2023 at 1:32:12 PM permalink
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EB said if Mike doesn't take the offer he will pick someone else. So now he has at least two people to pick from.

Anyone else want to get on the list?
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Unjon makes 3 people.
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September 28th, 2023 at 1:37:21 PM permalink
This reeks of Senior Abuse.
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September 28th, 2023 at 1:43:36 PM permalink
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This reeks of Senior Abuse.
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Try sitting down more often and force yourself to stop eating things that have the word 'fried' in the title.
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September 28th, 2023 at 1:56:41 PM permalink
No one here believes your delusions, Bob. You are making a sucker bet trying to defend them. Anyone who takes the bet is taking advantage of you. The joke has gone too far.
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September 28th, 2023 at 2:05:38 PM permalink
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No one here believes your delusions, Bob. You are making a sucker bet trying to defend them. Anyone who takes the bet is taking advantage of you. The joke has gone too far.
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If there's a problem here I'm sure Mike will shut it down.
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September 28th, 2023 at 2:28:17 PM permalink
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No one here believes your delusions, Bob. You are making a sucker bet trying to defend them. Anyone who takes the bet is taking advantage of you. The joke has gone too far.
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Bill, I admire your motivation here, but fear not. Delusions or not, EB has plenty of tricks up his sleeve with which to stymie this so called challenge. It will come to Nothing. Zip. Nada. Nowt.

If EB ever gets stiffed for that grand, he can always win some more. I'm 80% sure of that.

I offer EB the use of Henry Unicorn as consultant if EB's spirit guide ever betrays him.

Wizard is going to be tearing his hair out at getting dragged into this comedy.
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September 28th, 2023 at 2:34:50 PM permalink
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Anyone who takes the bet is taking advantage of you. The joke has gone too far.
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Seriously, fried food will do this to your brain. Clog it up with fat and cholesterol and soon you'll be making statements that are dubious to say the least.
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September 28th, 2023 at 2:38:11 PM permalink
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If there's a problem here I'm sure Mike will shut it down.
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There will be no problems on my end.
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September 28th, 2023 at 2:45:49 PM permalink
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Anyone who takes the bet is taking advantage of you. The joke has gone too far.
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Seriously, fried food will do this to your brain. Clog it up with fat and cholesterol and soon you'll be making statements that are dubious to say the least.
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That's telling you, Bill.

Better to be actively abused than ignored.
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September 28th, 2023 at 5:56:25 PM permalink
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EB said if Mike doesn't take the offer he will pick someone else. So now he has at least two people to pick from.

Anyone else want to get on the list?
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Unjon makes 3 people.
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Since you have enough people willing to escrow the money and a better offer(Im not changing my signature) ill withdraw from consideration, as if I had a chance anyways. But I still have a few questions.

How long do you expect it to take, and will Mike get to examine the logs?
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September 28th, 2023 at 7:17:05 PM permalink
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How long do you expect it to take, and will Mike get to examine the logs?
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It depends on how much time I have to give to it and of course the logs get to be examined thats the whole point. Without the logs I could just take $500 of my own money and give it to the participant and say I won it.
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September 28th, 2023 at 7:54:30 PM permalink
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How long do you expect it to take, and will Mike get to examine the logs?
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It depends on how much time I have to give to it and of course the logs get to be examined thats the whole point. Without the logs I could just take $500 of my own money and give it to the participant and say I won it.
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Sounds good, but someone might want to know how long their 1k is gonna be locked up for... 2 months, 6 months, 2 years?

I suggest that the logs be examined in a way that can't be disputed(I.E. A private live stream with Mike with you logged in, where he can screen record it and go back later and analyze it) and that you establish what casino you'll be playing prior and declare when you'll start.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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September 28th, 2023 at 10:51:01 PM permalink
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what casino you'll be playing prior and declare when you'll start.
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Looking at my schedule October is always a very busy month because it's my last full month of working outdoors before winter. I have a lot of projects ongoing and I can see getting started on this challenge by the first week of November probably.
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September 28th, 2023 at 11:55:10 PM permalink
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what casino you'll be playing prior and declare when you'll start.
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Looking at my schedule October is always a very busy month because it's my last full month of working outdoors before winter. I have a lot of projects ongoing and I can see getting started on this challenge by the first week of November probably.
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Well that's wonderful, looking forward to it.

How long do you estimate it will take? less than 4 months?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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September 29th, 2023 at 12:01:50 AM permalink
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what casino you'll be playing prior and declare when you'll start.
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Looking at my schedule October is always a very busy month because it's my last full month of working outdoors before winter. I have a lot of projects ongoing and I can see getting started on this challenge by the first week of November probably.
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Well that's wonderful, looking forward to it.

How long do you estimate it will take? less than 4 months?
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Don't hold your breath.
How about having result logs available from the outset and not just from the grand reveal?

What am I saying? No meaningful challenge will happen.
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September 29th, 2023 at 7:28:40 AM permalink
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How long do you estimate it will take? less than 4 months?
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Why. Whatever I say you're just going to mock it, ridicule it, find something wrong with it, make fun of it. It'll take as long as it takes, it's not your money what do you care. It will take less than 900 bets, satisfied?
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September 29th, 2023 at 7:48:46 AM permalink
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How long do you estimate it will take? less than 4 months?
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Why. Whatever I say you're just going to mock it, ridicule it, find something wrong with it, make fun of it. It'll take as long as it takes, it's not your money what do you care. It will take less than 900 bets, satisfied?
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Is this that method where you wait sometimes several days before wagering and theb only do one or two spins for the day?

So it's going to take just under three years to complete this challenge?
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September 29th, 2023 at 8:24:36 AM permalink
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So it's going to take just under three years to complete this challenge?
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I estimate it will take somewhere between 3 days and 13 years to complete. The metastudy is just in and that's what I gleaned from it.
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September 29th, 2023 at 8:40:33 AM permalink
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So it's going to take just under three years to complete this challenge?
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I estimate it will take somewhere between 3 days and 13 years to complete. The metastudy is just in and that's what I gleaned from it.
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It's an important question related to the challenger's money, how long it will be locked away from him. Not sure why no serious answer but you do you.
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September 29th, 2023 at 8:44:35 AM permalink
As a potential challenger, I'm just waiting for Wizard to get involved. At that point either all the details will be ironed out, or the challenge will be thrown out for one reason or another.
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September 29th, 2023 at 8:57:17 AM permalink
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As a potential challenger, I'm just waiting for Wizard to get involved. At that point either all the details will be ironed out, or the challenge will be thrown out for one reason or another.
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Heads I win, tails you lose is not a challenge. It's a suckers bet. How does Bob win? By only having to give away $500 instead of $1,000?
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September 29th, 2023 at 9:08:21 AM permalink
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As a potential challenger, I'm just waiting for Wizard to get involved. At that point either all the details will be ironed out, or the challenge will be thrown out for one reason or another.
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Heads I win, tails you lose is not a challenge. It's a suckers bet. How does Bob win? By only having to give away $500 instead of $1,000?
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EB "wins" by getting more ammo to "prove" his method works. The winnings and log entries will have been verified by Wizard (or so EB hopes).
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September 29th, 2023 at 9:09:49 AM permalink
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How long do you estimate it will take? less than 4 months?
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Why. Whatever I say you're just going to mock it, ridicule it, find something wrong with it, make fun of it. It'll take as long as it takes, it's not your money what do you care. It will take less than 900 bets, satisfied?
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I was asking for whomever is putting up the money I have a feeling they might want to know as well.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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September 29th, 2023 at 9:12:18 AM permalink
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How long do you estimate it will take? less than 4 months?
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Why. Whatever I say you're just going to mock it, ridicule it, find something wrong with it, make fun of it. It'll take as long as it takes, it's not your money what do you care. It will take less than 900 bets, satisfied?
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I was asking for whomever is putting up the money I have a feeling they might want to know as well.
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Remember that time is different for Bob than for the rest of you.
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