Evenbob's Roulette Thread
Quote: Dieter
I must ask...
If the ball lands on Red, does that make the next spin more or less likely to land Red?
(You may substitute "Even", "Low", or other.)
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Oh my God, an actual technical question and not a comment about my intelligence, my heritage, the fact that not only does nobody here like me they all wish I would die, and how I have 27,000 empty posts with no content whatsoever. Oh and I should change my underwear more often..
It depends on what came before the red spin. If the last seven or eight numbers were red I would probably bet that there might be one more red and I would bet just once. If there was not a streak I would look at is red dominating the last 13 or 14 spins and are there any patterns that I can exploit. Online you have to see all this stuff instantly cuz you don't have time to think about it because you only have 20 seconds in between spins. In a brick and mortar Casino you've got two or three minutes to make up your mind but there you only have one wheel that you can play at a time. At home I play three wheels at once.
And yes I am perfectly aware that every single number on every single spin has an equal chance of showing up. The fact is, this is what makes roulette exploitable. If this were not true I could not do what I do.
Quote: AxelWolfIt's like a blind person with no taste buds trying to compare apples to oranges trying to convince us and explain how they look and taste the same.
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It's more like a person with sight in the valley of the blind trying to explain what a rainbow looks like. I'm the one that has the sight and you're the ones that don't believe in rainbows.
Quote: AxelWolfThey did? We do? Can you provide evidence of this? If anything they went insane having to count all the profits from the newfound blackjack popularity.
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"Thorp summarised winning strategies for playing blackjack and ways to figure out beating casinos in his book Beat the Dealer, published in 1962. The book caused panic in the casino world.
The casinos watched for players who counted the cards and forbade them to play. Thorp was even forced to disguise himself to avoid falling victim to local mobsters. In 1964, for the first time in casino history, they changed the rules of blackjack."
It got so bad they tried to kill Thorp several times. Sure they profited later but in the first couple of years the casinos went absolutely nuts on cracking down on blackjack players. Vegas was run by the Mob in 1962, they hated Thorp's guts and he was eventually banned from all casinos in Vegas.
Quote: EvenBob
It depends on what came before the red spin. If the last seven or eight numbers were red I would probably bet that there might be one more red and I would bet just once. If there was not a streak I would look at is red dominating the last 13 or 14 spins and are there any patterns that I can exploit
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Every roulette player on Earth over the last 300 years could have said this exact same thing, but I wonder how many of them would act like it's some unique and unbeatable method and then narcissistically brag about it in public.
Quote: EvenBobIt's more like a person with sight in the valley of the blind trying to explain what a rainbow looks like. I'm the one that has the sight and you're the ones that don't believe in rainbows.
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It's more like everyone believes in rainbows, but you're the one claiming you invented rainbows and you create them by riding a chariot drawn by magical horses across the sky. That's how detached from reality your claims are.
For the third time, I will post the math that proves you are losing at roulette:
E=P(W)⋅W−P(L)⋅L
And for the third time, I expect you to ignore it because you have no idea what you're looking at because you don't know the first thing about gambling or roulette.
And you never answered my question:
Quote:Show me someone who is winning at a fair game of roulette and I'll show you somebody who is just lucky, and will likely lose it all back.
Mick Shackleford, the Wizard of Odds, said that. Is he wrong? Yes or no.
Quote: TigerWu
I know how card counting works. I know that card counters make non-random bets when the count is in their favor. What I don't know is why you keep bringing this up.
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I keep bringing it up because every hand in blackjack Is random and when a card counter makes a bet it's non-random. He's making non-random bets when the count is in his favor against random outcomes. But for some reason you seem to think this can't be done in roulette. It can.
"The casino shuffles between one deck and eight decks and these cards are then dealt to the players.
The shuffle is supposed to randomize the cards and it does."
Quote: TigerWu
And you never answered my question:Quote:Show me someone who is winning at a fair game of roulette and I'll show you somebody who is just lucky, and will likely lose it all back.
Mick Shackleford, the Wizard of Odds, said that. Is he wrong? Yes or no.
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Mike is absolutely right, 99% of the time the person is lucky and they will lose it all back. But then there's always the 1% where luck is not involved.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: TigerWu
And you never answered my question:Quote:Show me someone who is winning at a fair game of roulette and I'll show you somebody who is just lucky, and will likely lose it all back.
Mick Shackleford, the Wizard of Odds, said that. Is he wrong? Yes or no.
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Mike is absolutely right, 99% of the time the person is lucky and they will lose it all back. But then there's always the 1% where luck is not involved.
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That's not what Mike said. You are implying that you think he is wrong about winning in roulette.
EvenBob thinks Mike Shackleford, the Wizard of Odds, is wrong.
Quote: JimRockfordEvenbob, I don’t understand why you keep saying that the LLN does not apply to you. You have an edge. You depend on the LLN to assure your profit. If anything can happen, you could lose.
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It's pretty simple, really.
Basically, when applied to Roulette, the LLN says a person will lose in the long run.
EvenBob can't admit to losing.
Therefore, he HAS to say that the LLN doesn't apply to him, otherwise he would be admitting that he loses.
That's also why he says the house edge in Roulette doesn't apply to him, and that HE is the one who has a mathematical edge over the house.
Admitting the reality of mathematics is admitting loss, and that would destroy the image EB has created for himself of a Roulette advantage player.
Quote: JimRockfordEvenbob, I don’t understand why you keep saying that the LLN does not apply to you.
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The law of large numbers does not apply in the short term.
"The law of large numbers does not say anything about what will happen in a single observation or outcome. Individual events are unpredictable."
Quote: TigerWu
EvenBob thinks Mike Shackleford, the Wizard of Odds, is wrong.
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No I don't. 99% of the time people who win at roulette are doing it by luck so he is correct. Please don't twist things I say into something else.
Quote: TigerWuQuote: JimRockfordEvenbob, I don’t understand why you keep saying that the LLN does not apply to you. You have an edge. You depend on the LLN to assure your profit. If anything can happen, you could lose.
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It's pretty simple, really.
Basically, when applied to Roulette, the LLN says a person will lose in the long run.
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No it doesn't, the law of large numbers says nothing about winning or losing in the long run. What it does is shows you that everything evens out in the long run as far as the outcomes go. But in the extreme short-term there is nothing even about the outcomes, anything can happen and usually does.
Quote: billryanHe is traveling. Therefore, the laws don't apply to him.
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It's probably about time this whole thread "travels" to the Betting Systems subforum.
bob explains it perfectly.
Systems have rules you have to follow, so eventually you will lose. A method avoids rules, and you can simply make stuff up or ignore some results to get the final result you want.
Methods> systems.
But the math still applies to you in the short run. (-EV). Many short-term bets add up to the long run. According to OD's simulation, 8k spins is enough to guarantee you'll be in the red.Quote: EvenBobQuote: TigerWuQuote: JimRockfordEvenbob, I don’t understand why you keep saying that the LLN does not apply to you. You have an edge. You depend on the LLN to assure your profit. If anything can happen, you could lose.
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It's pretty simple, really.
Basically, when applied to Roulette, the LLN says a person will lose in the long run.
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No it doesn't, the law of large numbers says nothing about winning or losing in the long run. What it does is shows you that everything evens out in the long run as far as the outcomes go. But in the extreme short-term there is nothing even about the outcomes, anything can happen and usually does.
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Blackjack is a proven Skill game, Roulette is a proven non-skill game.Quote: EvenBobQuote: TigerWu
It doesn't matter how non-random your bets are when the outcomes of the game are still random.
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Of course it makes a difference, stop being silly. Blackjack is a random game producing random outcomes. When a card counter waits till the count is in his favor and starts betting accordingly he's not making random bets, he's making it non-random bets against random outcomes. I'm wondering if you know what random is.
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In BJ the deck composition changes each time they deal the cards without shuffling. Card counters can make decisions and alter their strategy AFTER they have seen their hand and one of the dealer's cards. A card counter has a proven mathematical advantage when the count is in their favor, he has useful info before making bets and after making bets. He can even add extra money after seeing his cards. You have none of this ability on roulette. it's apples and oranges.
You place your wagers before knowing any useful information. A roulette wheel is never in your favor and the HA never changes.
If they shuffled the shoes each time a card counter would no longer have an advantage. Your roulette is basically shuffled each time.
Quote: TigerWu
Every roulette player on Earth over the last 300 years could have said this exact same thing,
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Not just roulette, waiting for one side to dominate is extremely popular in baccarat. Everybody waits for Banker or player to dominate and then go into a streak. When this happens you'll often see every seat taken and somebody behind every player making piggyback bets. When a side dominates it's not unusual to see long streaks. Of course the odds are it's going to end on the next hand or on the next spin but we're in the extreme short term and anything can happen and the players know this.
TigerWu,
Tutigym.
BillRyan,
Axelwolf,
Unjon,
JimRockford,
Dieter,
OnceDear.
Oh, especially OnceDear.
Arguing the toss about LLN after EvenBob engages you on that distraction. FOOL!
Arguing the toss about why Blackjack is different to roulette after EvenBob quotes something about Ed Thorp. FOOL!
Arguing the toss about how Wizard is 99% right about whether Roulette winners win by luck. FOOL!
He's going to bring up pattern betting in baccarat now. It's another distraction. FOOLS
You are playing right into the master *****'s hands, following his shiney distractions.
I'll do it now.....
"Scientists proved that BumbleBee's can't fly"* The bumblebee proved them wrong, just like EvenBob proved them wrong when he flapped his arms and soared through the sky.
See how easy it is to assert a complete load of utter nonsense? That's what EvenBob does at every post and we suckers take him to task.... Rinse Repeat.
How many posts on this stupid topic over how many years? Do any of we fools think that we can educate or correct EvenBob? Are we showing our wisdom by arguing with EvenBob?
DFTT !
We who feed the thread deserve the thread. Without us, it would be dead and not top ranking.
Wizard and his moderators will never stop this stupidity. You can. But it's all or nothing.
Deal with it in the one way that works.
*Scientists proved and said no such thing!
Quote: AxelWolfBut the math still applies to you in the short run. (-EV). Many short-term bets add up to the long run.
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When you're talking many, you're talking millions not 8,000. If this was a roulette forum they'd be laughing their rear ends off at you.
Blackjack is a proven Skill game, Roulette is a proven non-skill game.Quote: AxelWolf
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Not for me and a few others I could name. For us it is definitely a skill game. Go over to one of the gambling forums and look at the roulette sections, you'll be crying yourself to sleep at night over all the sacreligious stuff you'll see.
Quote: OnceDearFools!
TigerWu,
Tutigym.
BillRyan,
Axelwolf,
Unjon,
JimRockford,
Dieter,
OnceDear.
Oh, especially OnceDear.
Arguing the toss about LLN after EvenBob engages you on that distraction. FOOL!
Arguing the toss about why Blackjack is different to roulette after EvenBob quotes something about Ed Thorp. FOOL!
Arguing the toss about how Wizard is 99% right about whether Roulette winners win by luck. FOOL!
You are playing right into the master *****'s hands, following his shiney distractions.
I'll do it now.....
"Scientists proved that BumbleBee's can't fly"* The bumblebee proved them wrong, just like EvenBob proved them wrong when he flapped his arms and soared through the sky.
See how easy it is to assert a complete load of utter nonsense? That's what EvenBob does at every post and we suckers take him to task.... Rinse Repeat.
How many posts on this stupid topic over how many years? Do any of we fools think that we can educate or correct EvenBob? Are we showing our wisdom by arguing with EvenBob?
DFTT !
We who feed the thread deserve the thread. Without us, it would be dead and not top ranking.
Wizard and his moderators will never stop this stupidity. You can. But it's all or nothing.
Deal with it in the one way that works.Oi EVENBOB. I can see you reading this!
*Scientists proved and said no such thing!
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You BETTER edit your post and include me in the list!!!
Maybe I am not on the list because I stopped arguing with him about the inane details included in each of his utterly nonsensical posts?
I just keep pointing out the obvious…
EB does not win at roulette. Never has enough to ‘pay his bills’.
Same for baccarat. We all know none of EB’s claims are based in reality. As stated many times, the only thing we don’t know is why he continues to post the drivel.
His cats are cute though.
Quote: SOOPOOQuote: OnceDearFools!
TigerWu,
Tutigym.
BillRyan,
Axelwolf,
Unjon,
JimRockford,
Dieter,
OnceDear.
Oh, especially OnceDear.
Arguing the toss about LLN after EvenBob engages you on that distraction. FOOL!
Arguing the toss about why Blackjack is different to roulette after EvenBob quotes something about Ed Thorp. FOOL!
Arguing the toss about how Wizard is 99% right about whether Roulette winners win by luck. FOOL!
You are playing right into the master *****'s hands, following his shiney distractions.
I'll do it now.....
"Scientists proved that BumbleBee's can't fly"* The bumblebee proved them wrong, just like EvenBob proved them wrong when he flapped his arms and soared through the sky.
See how easy it is to assert a complete load of utter nonsense? That's what EvenBob does at every post and we suckers take him to task.... Rinse Repeat.
How many posts on this stupid topic over how many years? Do any of we fools think that we can educate or correct EvenBob? Are we showing our wisdom by arguing with EvenBob?
DFTT !
We who feed the thread deserve the thread. Without us, it would be dead and not top ranking.
Wizard and his moderators will never stop this stupidity. You can. But it's all or nothing.
Deal with it in the one way that works.Oi EVENBOB. I can see you reading this!
*Scientists proved and said no such thing!
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You BETTER edit your post and include me in the list!!!
Maybe I am not on the list because I stopped arguing with him about the inane details included in each of his utterly nonsensical posts?
I just keep pointing out the obvious…
EB does not win at roulette. Never has enough to ‘pay his bills’.
Same for baccarat. We all know none of EB’s claims are based in reality. As stated many times, the only thing we don’t know is why he continues to post the drivel.
His cats are cute though.
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I fixed the link for you.
We have tried debating why he does this, but pointing out any hypothesis or logical conclusion earns yet another suspension. Nice one moderators!
Quote: OnceDear
We who feed the thread deserve the thread. Without us, it would be dead and not top ranking.
Wizard and his moderators will never stop this stupidity. You can. But it's all or nothing.
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Yeah, I'm starting to get bored with this.
EB has been proven wrong multiple times over, although he will never admit it. He will continue to troll the forum with his claims of phony gambling systems, and you're right, Wizard and the mods will just let him.
Quote: TigerWuHe will continue to troll the forum
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Once again you do not know what the definition of troll is. Just because you don't like what someone is saying does not mean they are trolling. I've been saying this exact same stuff since 2006 online and I stuck by it and I will continue to stick by it because it's the truth. Just because you don't like it, oh well. Block the thread, I have 95% of the threads on this form blocked.
Quote: TigerWuQuote: billryanHe is traveling. Therefore, the laws don't apply to him.
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It's probably about time this whole thread "travels" to the Betting Systems subforum.
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I didn't realize this wasn't in the BS heap.
I believe this thread got necromanced; it may be appropriate to fork if the old content is substantially different from the recent content.
Yesterday, Evenbob announced ...
Quote: EvenBobI keep seeing Oncedear's name here and if any of you are wondering why I don't respond to anything he might be saying about me, it's because I've arranged it so I no longer read his posts.
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I.e. He either blocked my user ID, or he started to wear blinkers.
I indicated that...
Quote: OnceDearFor any post that i make, he will see ...
Quote:[ A post by OnceDear has been blocked due to your settings | Show it to me anyway | View members I have blocked ]
It really splatters the screen.
But that's not all.... He will get that dialogue for any post that quotes me AND ANY POST THAT MENTIONS ME
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So, now I see...
Quote: EvenBobQuote: TigerWuHe will continue to troll the forum
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TigerWu had quoted me and EvenBob had seen and quoted his post.
I have to conclude either that EvenBob has not got me blocked, or he's playing peekaboo and clicking 'Show it to me anyway'
That's just sad!
I already knew that he WAS reading my posts.
Hi EvenBob. I C U C Me
Quote: EvenBobI have 95% of the threads on this form blocked.
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ROFLMAO.
Methinks EvenBob's definition of 95% might be different to the conventional one.
Quote: OnceDearThis is hysterically funny.....
Yesterday, Evenbob announced ...Quote: EvenBobI keep seeing Oncedear's name here and if any of you are wondering why I don't respond to anything he might be saying about me, it's because I've arranged it so I no longer read his posts.
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I.e. He either blocked my user ID, or he started to wear blinkers.
I indicated that...Quote: OnceDearFor any post that i make, he will see ...
Quote:[ A post by OnceDear has been blocked due to your settings | Show it to me anyway | View members I have blocked ]
It really splatters the screen.
But that's not all.... He will get that dialogue for any post that quotes me AND ANY POST THAT MENTIONS ME
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So, now I see...Quote: EvenBobQuote: TigerWuHe will continue to troll the forum
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TigerWu had quoted me and EvenBob had seen and quoted his post.
I have to conclude either that EvenBob has not got me blocked, or he's playing peekaboo and clicking 'Show it to me anyway'
That's just sad!
I already knew that he WAS reading my posts.
Hi EvenBob. I C U C Me
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Wasn't there a strong suggestion a few posts back to block the thread? DFTT?
Quote: OnceDearQuote: EvenBobI have 95% of the threads on this form blocked.
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ROFLMAO.
Methinks EvenBob's definition of 95% might be different to the conventional one.
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You see, the green pockets don't matter...
Quote: Dieter
Wasn't there a strong suggestion a few posts back to block the thread? DFTT?
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I can still Laugh at TT.
And yes. This thread was indeed necromanced and hijacked and is now dedicated to EvenBob's 'Method' Other posts on that topic were deemed BS and moved there. Some even got thread closed at his request.
Not really.Quote: SOOPOO
His cats are cute though.
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You might want to follow other SYSTEM players leads and believe their hogwash, but I choose to believe in facts, math, logic and reality. Show us a sim or math that shows positive results after 8k flat betting spins on roulette.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfBut the math still applies to you in the short run. (-EV). Many short-term bets add up to the long run.
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When you're talking many, you're talking millions not 8,000. If this was a roulette forum they'd be laughing their rear ends off at you.
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Oh yeah, you said you believe in ghosts.
Quote: EvenBobBlackjack is a proven Skill game, Roulette is a proven non-skill game.Quote: AxelWolf
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Not for me and a few others I could name. For us it is definitely a skill game. Go over to one of the gambling forums and look at the roulette sections, you'll be crying yourself to sleep at night over all the sacreligious stuff you'll see.
link to original post I been to the gambling forums roulette forums and it's complete nonsense with people talking about universal roulette trends and other BS. I posted there many moons ago. Also, one of thread's known elite posters attempted to get me to invest in their cocimammi roulette bullshit. Why the F does a masters rouletteer need investors? Yeah, I know you can't imagine your hero roulette masters are broke ass bastards.
Quote: OnceDearFools!
TigerWu,
Tutigym.
BillRyan,
Axelwolf,
Unjon,
JimRockford,
Dieter,
OnceDear.
Oh, especially OnceDear.
Arguing the toss about LLN after EvenBob engages you on that distraction. FOOL!
Arguing the toss about why Blackjack is different to roulette after EvenBob quotes something about Ed Thorp. FOOL!
Arguing the toss about how Wizard is 99% right about whether Roulette winners win by luck. FOOL!
He's going to bring up pattern betting in baccarat now. It's another distraction. FOOLS
You are playing right into the master *****'s hands, following his shiney distractions.
I'll do it now.....
"Scientists proved that BumbleBee's can't fly"* The bumblebee proved them wrong, just like EvenBob proved them wrong when he flapped his arms and soared through the sky.
See how easy it is to assert a complete load of utter nonsense? That's what EvenBob does at every post and we suckers take him to task.... Rinse Repeat.
How many posts on this stupid topic over how many years? Do any of we fools think that we can educate or correct EvenBob? Are we showing our wisdom by arguing with EvenBob?
DFTT !
We who feed the thread deserve the thread. Without us, it would be dead and not top ranking.
Wizard and his moderators will never stop this stupidity. You can. But it's all or nothing.
Deal with it in the one way that works.Oi EVENBOB. I can see you reading this!
*Scientists proved and said no such thing!
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Saoirse Now!
Quote: OnceDearThis is hysterically funny.....
Yesterday, Evenbob announced ...Quote: EvenBobI keep seeing Oncedear's name here and if any of you are wondering why I don't respond to anything he might be saying about me, it's because I've arranged it so I no longer read his posts.
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I.e. He either blocked my user ID, or he started to wear blinkers.
I indicated that...Quote: OnceDearFor any post that i make, he will see ...
Quote:[ A post by OnceDear has been blocked due to your settings | Show it to me anyway | View members I have blocked ]
It really splatters the screen.
But that's not all.... He will get that dialogue for any post that quotes me AND ANY POST THAT MENTIONS ME
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So, now I see...Quote: EvenBobQuote: TigerWuHe will continue to troll the forum
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TigerWu had quoted me and EvenBob had seen and quoted his post.
I have to conclude either that EvenBob has not got me blocked, or he's playing peekaboo and clicking 'Show it to me anyway'
That's just sad!
I already knew that he WAS reading my posts.
Hi EvenBob. I C U C Me
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Spot on lol.
I'm sorry, Bill. That doesn't mean anything to me.Quote: billryan
Saoirse Now!
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Quote: EvenBobNot for me and a few others I could name. For us it is definitely a skill game. Go over to one of the gambling forums and look at the roulette sections, you'll be crying yourself to sleep at night over all the sacreligious stuff you'll see.
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I p155 myself laughing at the inane babbling of the idiots and trolls that are your peers over there.
How does that sound, would that make any difference at all or are your minds so stuck on burning the witch at the stake because your well went dry that you can't see reason.
Quote: EvenBobI've been thinking about putting all this to rest.
Oh, no!
Quote: EvenBobI really don't have time to keep responding to the same drivel everyday.
OMG! Really?
Quote: EvenBobyada yada yada yada
Quote: EvenBob
How does that sound, would that make any difference at all or are your minds so stuck on burning the witch at the stake because your well went dry that you can't see reason.
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Oh my! I'm so excited! (Not) This is it! (Not).
Yawn.
Quote: EvenBobI've been thinking about putting all this to rest. I really don't have time to keep responding to the same drivel everyday. I'm thinking about running this by Mike and having somebody put up $1,000 and I'll turn it into $1,500 and provide a history of the betting at the online casino that did it. It has to be from somebody I trust, which means most of the people in this thread are out. Maybe Mike will do it, we'll see. It probably doesn't matter because you'll all say oh, Axel could do that in 5 minutes in roulette everyday.
How does that sound, would that make any difference at all or are your minds so stuck on burning the witch at the stake because your well went dry that you can't see reason.
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Argue one thing prove another. Nice.
You claim a prowess for educated guessing. FLAT betting.
You claim it pays your bills.
Only proof or withdrawal of those unbelieved claims will suffice.
Put up or shut up.
EvenBob will prove nothing. He has NOTHING.
Quote: EvenBobI've been thinking about putting all this to rest. I really don't have time to keep responding to the same drivel everyday. I'm thinking about running this by Mike and having somebody put up $1,000 and I'll turn it into $1,500 and provide a history of the betting at the online casino that did it. It has to be from somebody I trust, which means most of the people in this thread are out. Maybe Mike will do it, we'll see. It probably doesn't matter because you'll all say oh, Axel could do that in 5 minutes in roulette everyday.
How does that sound, would that make any difference at all or are your minds so stuck on burning the witch at the stake because your well went dry that you can't see reason.
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Serious question:
What would you specifically be trying to prove by turning $1,000 into $1,500 and providing casino logs?
Quote: TigerWu
Serious question:
What would you specifically be trying to prove by turning $1,000 into $1,500 and providing casino logs?
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Serious answer:
Really? You think that's a serious question..
Quote: EvenBobI've been thinking about putting all this to rest. I really don't have time to keep responding to the same drivel everyday. I'm thinking about running this by Mike and having somebody put up $1,000 and I'll turn it into $1,500 and provide a history of the betting at the online casino that did it. It has to be from somebody I trust, which means most of the people in this thread are out. Maybe Mike will do it, we'll see. It probably doesn't matter because you'll all say oh, Axel could do that in 5 minutes in roulette everyday.
How does that sound, would that make any difference at all or are your minds so stuck on burning the witch at the stake because your well went dry that you can't see reason.
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It sounds like you may be trying to sell a betting system, which is specifically prohibited. If this turns out to be the case, it will be dealt with later.
In the interim, what do you stand to lose from your proposed trial? If someone else is staking the venture, you're risking nothing?
A freeroll?
Quote: MentalEveryone on the casino bus has a gambling system as good or better than EB's nonsystematic system.Quote: TigerWuHey, I have a gambling system, too!
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Whoa whoa whoa.
I take that bus too!
2) If you bet on Red, you have an 18/38 chance of winning so lets call it 46%
3) If you bet on green, you have about an 8% chance.
So, when you bet two columns, add a bet on red, and hedge it with a bet on green, you have a 66% plus 46% plus 8%. All told, you have a 120% chance of winning on every spin.
OD (and the math) has shown that various betting systems can achieve a high rate of success in the short term.Quote: EvenBobI've been thinking about putting all this to rest. I really don't have time to keep responding to the same drivel everyday. I'm thinking about running this by Mike and having somebody put up $1,000 and I'll turn it into $1,500 and provide a history of the betting at the online casino that did it. It has to be from somebody I trust, which means most of the people in this thread are out. Maybe Mike will do it, we'll see. It probably doesn't matter because you'll all say oh, Axel could do that in 5 minutes in roulette everyday.
How does that sound, would that make any difference at all or are your minds so stuck on burning the witch at the stake because your well went dry that you can't see reason.
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Turning 1k into $1500 could be meaningless or super meaningful depending on how you achieved that $500 profit. If you were to bet $500 and win I'm sure even you can understand how that's meaningless.
I would be willing to accept a challenge/bet that you cannot achieve an 80% hit rate on roulette over 40 of your best guesses.
Prove EB can't outsmart math.Quote: OnceDearQuote: EvenBobI've been thinking about putting all this to rest. I really don't have time to keep responding to the same drivel everyday. I'm thinking about running this by Mike and having somebody put up $1,000 and I'll turn it into $1,500 and provide a history of the betting at the online casino that did it. It has to be from somebody I trust, which means most of the people in this thread are out. Maybe Mike will do it, we'll see. It probably doesn't matter because you'll all say oh, Axel could do that in 5 minutes in roulette everyday.
How does that sound, would that make any difference at all or are your minds so stuck on burning the witch at the stake because your well went dry that you can't see reason.
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Argue one thing prove another. Nice.
You claim a prowess for educated guessing. FLAT betting.
You claim it pays your bills.
Only proof or withdrawal of those unbelieved claims will suffice.
Put up or shut up.
EvenBob will prove nothing. He has NOTHING.
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It sounds like you may be trying to sell a betting system, which is specifically prohibited. If this turns out to be the case, it will be dealt with later.
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Nope, just another challenge. For the 1,314th time I don't use system, I use a method. Why this is so hard to get straight is a mystery to me. How this could be construed as trying to sell something would have to be explained to me because I don't see that anywhere in my post. You people keep telling me you want proof this would be another form of proof. I would take $1,000 and turn it into $1,500 and post the results of the casino where I made the bets. Money talks and BS walks, as they say. Please give me the details of how you came to the conclusion that would be somehow selling a system.
