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October 8th, 2023 at 5:47:12 PM permalink
He actually had to contact his Member of Parliament to get his money. And this is one of the largest betting outfits in the world. But sure, the online casinos in my state are going to let me play for as much as I want and win millions of dollars and they are not going to do anything about it. Talk about living in Fantasyland..
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October 9th, 2023 at 7:46:33 PM permalink
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He actually had to contact his Member of Parliament to get his money. And this is one of the largest betting outfits in the world. But sure, the online casinos in my state are going to let me play for as much as I want and win millions of dollars and they are not going to do anything about it. Talk about living in Fantasyland..
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Sports betting is an entirely different animal when it comes to getting cut off. There's proven +EV situations that come in all shapes and forms. Unless you are cheating at roulette or have a verifiable mathematical advantage they are are highly unlikely to mess with you.
We don't have any clue how or what was going on prior to this video. And again this is the same tout/affiliate that makes money using scare tactics to use the services he is hawking. IE how to get around getting caught and why you should use this that and the other thing.

This is not in the USA. I believe they are very stringent on the entire KYC stuff for small amounts including verifiable income. I'm sure someone from the UK can weight in on that and give some insight.

Also, if you stopped jacking around with depositing and cash small amounts so frequently the algorithm wouldn't be able to detect anything. You should be making thousands of dollars in bets at a time and run your balance up significantly and then cash out. There's Z2ero reason to be afraid of variance when yiu have an 80% hit rate. Just use Kelly and figure out the best way to utilize your bankroll. You have been shown charts showing how quickly your bankroll would grow with an 80% hit rate and how many bets it would take for an extremely high confidence level.

And again, thousands of online casinos are avaliable if you happen to get backed off.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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October 10th, 2023 at 2:47:19 AM permalink
who knows what Bob meant by 80%? I think we might as well leave him alone now on that one

now the new thing is that we are getting a guy searching for evidence that he is justified in not trying to win real money while able to squeeze out wins all the time with bacc or roulette. I think you are right that Bob really smarts from any criticism that winds up putting that in doubt, a festering wound that goes back decades.

So now it's going to be up to all of us whether we want to dive into all this "evidence" ... and all the back and forth about it with Bob and his Detractors of the Day. The DotDs too have this festering wound, it's contagious. Me too. So I'm going the antibiotic route ... ignoring Don Quixote and his new windmills
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October 10th, 2023 at 4:19:55 AM permalink
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who knows what Bob meant by 80%? I think we might as well leave him alone now on that one

now the new thing is that we are getting a guy searching for evidence that he is justified in not trying to win real money while able to squeeze out wins all the time with bacc or roulette. I think you are right that Bob really smarts from any criticism that winds up putting that in doubt, a festering wound that goes back decades.

So now it's going to be up to all of us whether we want to dive into all this "evidence" ... and all the back and forth about it with Bob and his Detractors of the Day. The DotDs too have this festering wound, it's contagious. Me too. So I'm going the antibiotic route ... ignoring Don Quixote and his new windmills
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He has been clear on the 80% hit rate thing multiple times. He has said it over and over.

If that claim isn't valid then none of his claims regarding his roulette are true. I would accept and be super impressed with 75%.
75% + would be phenomenal it would be quick and easy to provide compelling evidence one way or the other.
It's the other Bob is worried about. I believe even he knows just how absurd that claim is.

We all know it's impossible for him to achieve an 80% hit rate over any substantial amount of trials.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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October 10th, 2023 at 9:04:08 AM permalink
EB just got suspended for hijacking threads with his phony system crap; let's not perpetuate it.
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October 11th, 2023 at 9:00:12 PM permalink
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EB just got suspended for hijacking threads with his phony system crap; let's not perpetuate it.
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I promise I will never not stop talking about his 80% hit rate claims.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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October 12th, 2023 at 6:25:03 AM permalink
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EB just got suspended for hijacking threads with his phony system crap; let's not perpetuate it.
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I promise I will never not stop talking about his 80% hit rate claims.
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I mean, I'll admit, it's funny and definitely worth mockery, but still...

Anyway, with regards to the topic of the thread, I can maybe understand some issues if the guy won hundreds of thousands or maybe even tens of thousands of pounds, but just a few thousand? I would think that's nothing. They probably get bets like that multiple times a week. I don't know why the staff would even bat an eye at that kind of money. Sounds like a terrible company.
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October 12th, 2023 at 9:21:00 AM permalink
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EB just got suspended for hijacking threads with his phony system crap; let's not perpetuate it.
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I promise I will never not stop talking about his 80% hit rate claims.
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I mean, I'll admit, it's funny and definitely worth mockery, but still...

Anyway, with regards to the topic of the thread, I can maybe understand some issues if the guy won hundreds of thousands or maybe even tens of thousands of pounds, but just a few thousand? I would think that's nothing. They probably get bets like that multiple times a week. I don't know why the staff would even bat an eye at that kind of money. Sounds like a terrible company.
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You are absolutely correct,. In my opinion, It's Bob’s only excuse why he hasn't made millions, therefore he has to stick with it and glom onto any sensational story that helps support that naritive to continue the facade. I can show multiple examples of people getting paid large amounts online even after they have been involved in Shenanigans that would've been a legitimate excuse to not pay.

I repeat there's 1000's of online casinos and there's multiple ways to hide from detection.

The only legitimate reason why someone with a 80% rhit rate on roulette isn't up millions...

It's simply not true.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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October 12th, 2023 at 9:54:44 AM permalink
Of course, it is not true. I believe that is a given.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
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October 12th, 2023 at 11:38:23 AM permalink
I can imagine a few possibilities. The first is that if someone has a transaction greater than £10k then money laundering checks have to be made; if anything comes up (usually applies to criminal activity in banking) than they can't inform the customer. In some (UK) casinos you can enter without ID but can only cash out £1500 or less, otherwise you have to show your ID.

So I don't know if any of this applies here.

Certainly, unless there was knowledge of money laundering, it appears the bookmaker didn't really handle the situation well and could have informed the customer about any cash out restrictions.
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October 12th, 2023 at 2:58:03 PM permalink
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We all know it's impossible for him to achieve an 80% hit rate over any substantial amount of trials.
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You don't know it, you think it, you hope it, but you don't know it.
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October 12th, 2023 at 3:46:51 PM permalink
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We all know it's impossible for him to achieve an 80% hit rate over any substantial amount of trials.
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You don't know it, you think it, you hope it, but you don't know it.
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Self reflexive. It's OK Bob. Thanks for admitting you don't know it, you think it, you hope it but you don't know it.
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October 13th, 2023 at 8:27:17 AM permalink
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We all know it's impossible for him to achieve an 80% hit rate over any substantial amount of trials.
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You don't know it, you think it, you hope it, but you don't know it.
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I can be just as sure of that as I am that you are not a leprechaun.

The fact that you don't understand just how absurd it is to claim you can correctly guess something with a 48.6% chance of happening at an 80% hit rate is mind-boggling.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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October 13th, 2023 at 8:34:54 AM permalink
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The fact that you don't understand just how absurd it is to claim you can correctly guess something with a 48.6% chance of happening at an 80% hit rate is mind-boggling.
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Unless you're actually doing it then it's mind-bogglingly boring. It's not what you think it is because I know you think what's happening is I just sit there and bet and bet and bet at an 80% rate. The absolute polar opposite is true as that I've tried to explain a thousand times. I bet very very seldom so 80% is not unreasonable at all.
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October 13th, 2023 at 11:51:05 AM permalink
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The fact that you don't understand just how absurd it is to claim you can correctly guess something with a 48.6% chance of happening at an 80% hit rate is mind-boggling.
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Unless you're actually doing it then it's mind-bogglingly boring. It's not what you think it is because I know you think what's happening is I just sit there and bet and bet and bet at an 80% rate. The absolute polar opposite is true as that I've tried to explain a thousand times. I bet very very seldom so 80% is not unreasonable at all.
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I will try to explain EB's math for the forum.

Take a bag of M&M which contain 30 pieces per bag.

EB doesn't want to eat 30. He rarely eats that much. So he only eats 6 M&M from a bag and throws out the rest of the bag.

EB purchases 5 bags of M&M at once and continues to eat only 6 per bag and throw out the rest.

It is quite evident to EB that he only eats 6 M&M and never a full bag worth.

Can we all agree on this?
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October 13th, 2023 at 12:32:17 PM permalink
^^^^ Would it be possible to get back on track please - thanks ^^^^
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October 13th, 2023 at 1:13:21 PM permalink
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I will try to explain EB's math for the forum.

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October 13th, 2023 at 9:54:01 PM permalink
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The fact that you don't understand just how absurd it is to claim you can correctly guess something with a 48.6% chance of happening at an 80% hit rate is mind-boggling.
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Unless you're actually doing it then it's mind-bogglingly boring. It's not what you think it is because I know you think what's happening is I just sit there and bet and bet and bet at an 80% rate. The absolute polar opposite is true as that I've tried to explain a thousand times. I bet very very seldom so 80% is not unreasonable at all.
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I will try to explain EB's math for the forum.

Take a bag of M&M which contain 30 pieces per bag.

EB doesn't want to eat 30. He rarely eats that much. So he only eats 6 M&M from a bag and throws out the rest of the bag.

EB purchases 5 bags of M&M at once and continues to eat only 6 per bag and throw out the rest.

It is quite evident to EB that he only eats 6 M&M and never a full bag worth.

Can we all agree on this?
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I can't agree, because EvenBob will ignore the green M&Ms.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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October 13th, 2023 at 10:40:18 PM permalink
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I can't agree, because EvenBob will ignore the green M&Ms.
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"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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October 14th, 2023 at 6:36:21 AM permalink
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The fact that you don't understand just how absurd it is to claim you can correctly guess something with a 48.6% chance of happening at an 80% hit rate is mind-boggling.
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Unless you're actually doing it then it's mind-bogglingly boring. It's not what you think it is because I know you think what's happening is I just sit there and bet and bet and bet at an 80% rate. The absolute polar opposite is true as that I've tried to explain a thousand times. I bet very very seldom so 80% is not unreasonable at all.
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I will try to explain EB's math for the forum.

Take a bag of M&M which contain 30 pieces per bag.

EB doesn't want to eat 30. He rarely eats that much. So he only eats 6 M&M from a bag and throws out the rest of the bag.

EB purchases 5 bags of M&M at once and continues to eat only 6 per bag and throw out the rest.

It is quite evident to EB that he only eats 6 M&M and never a full bag worth.

Can we all agree on this?
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I can't agree, because EvenBob will ignore the green M&Ms.
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Are you suggesting the green ones represent reality?
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
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October 14th, 2023 at 6:53:09 AM permalink
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The fact that you don't understand just how absurd it is to claim you can correctly guess something with a 48.6% chance of happening at an 80% hit rate is mind-boggling.
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Unless you're actually doing it then it's mind-bogglingly boring. It's not what you think it is because I know you think what's happening is I just sit there and bet and bet and bet at an 80% rate. The absolute polar opposite is true as that I've tried to explain a thousand times. I bet very very seldom so 80% is not unreasonable at all.
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I will try to explain EB's math for the forum.

Take a bag of M&M which contain 30 pieces per bag.

EB doesn't want to eat 30. He rarely eats that much. So he only eats 6 M&M from a bag and throws out the rest of the bag.

EB purchases 5 bags of M&M at once and continues to eat only 6 per bag and throw out the rest.

It is quite evident to EB that he only eats 6 M&M and never a full bag worth.

Can we all agree on this?
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I can't agree, because EvenBob will ignore the green M&Ms.
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Are you suggesting the green ones represent reality?
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Green for money. Which EB tries to ignore with an 80% hit rate.
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October 14th, 2023 at 7:50:15 AM permalink
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Are you suggesting the green ones represent reality?
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I think we're supposed to represent Math, Justice, and the American Way.
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