Celebrity Deaths
A real law in Tucson and all of Arizona is that it is illegal to hunt or shoot camels, even though the last wild camels died off sometime in the 1920s.
Quote: billryanThere is an urban legend that it is illegal for a woman to pose as a man in Tucson. It's often stated that such a law exists, or used to, although no one can locate the actual law. The point of the law seems to have been to prevent females from signing up as cowboys.
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Way back woman in the west were either prostitutes or force into it. So pretending to be a male kept the pressure off.
Quote: billryanA real law in Tucson and all of Arizona is that it is illegal to hunt or shoot camels, even though the last wild camels died off sometime in the 1920s.
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Between 1870 and 1920, more than twenty-thousand camels were brought to Australia.
Today, more than one million feral camels roam the Australian outback.
https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20180410-the-strange-story-of-australias-wild-camel
It's a shame the Western states didn't do something to keep the camels from dying out.
Like I saw him in a commercial and thought “that’s the corporal guy from Gomer Pyle!”
Six-time Spanish bodybuilding champion and former Mr. Universe José Antonio Hernandez Torres has died at 57, local Spanish outlet Revista el Verdano reported. The legendary athlete, known as “Jocha” passed in Tenerife a month before his 58th birthday, following a career spanning more than 40 years
Not reported yet what he died of.
Quote: rxwineNot reported yet what he died of.
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I shouldn't make accusations without evidence, but I'd lay 3 to 1 odds juicing during his bodybuilding years played a major cause.
Mostly known for "Mary hartman, Mary Hartman"
Married to Woody Allen for four years. She appears in his early films like take the money and run.
Quote: darkozLouise Lasser.
Mostly known for "Mary hartman, Mary Hartman"
Married to Woody Allen for four years. She appears in his early films like take the money and run.
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Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman may have been TV's first cult hit. It and its spinoffs were huge on college campuses. Martin Mull rose to stardom on these shows.
RIP.
Gone at 75. Rest in Peace.
Quote: billryanBonnie Tyler, the gravel-voiced singer, gave us chart toppers such as Total Eclipse of the Heart and Holding Out for a Hero.
Gone at 75. Rest in Peace.
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Total Eclipse of the Heart was a huge hit, coming out in 1983, the year I graduated high school and started college. Bizarre video. RIP.
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I shouldn't make accusations without evidence, but I'd lay 3 to 1 odds juicing during his bodybuilding years played a major cause.
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Don't feel too bad about that accusation. Every professional bodybuilder since Schwarzenegger has used steroids. Every trade has its tools and unfortunately drugs are a tool of that trade and you won't be competitive without them. They were thought of as "fitness drugs" back in those days and the users touted it as a healthy practice.
Quote: billryanMary Hartman, Mary Hartman may have been TV's first cult hit. It and its spinoffs were huge on college campuses. Martin Mull rose to stardom on these shows.
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He started off in a serious role - as a wifebeater, no less.
This one rates an 8 out of 10 on my mourning scale as I was a HUGE 'Emergency!' fan when it was on the air.
More information: Randolph Mantooth, Firefighter-Paramedic Johnny Gage on ‘Emergency!,’ Dies at 80
Direct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmB-LGPpDpE
Note the actor's ad-lib in this scene when the dog runs into the glass door. :-)
Question for the grammar police -- Did I punctuate this one correctly? I wasn't sure how to treat the exclamation point in the show's name.
Quote: billryanI didn't watch the show much, but I've read that it was responsible for a cosmic change in first responders. NYC, for example, used hearse-based ambulances and hired burly men to get patients in and out of them. You got transported in an ambulance; you didn't get treated in one. I'm not sure NY State even had E.M.Ts until this show popularized them.
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Ah yes, the Cadillac station wagons. One color takes you to the hospital, a different color takes you out. That must have been a horrible experience to be injured and then bounced around without treatment in the back of a hearse.
That was a great show. Dr. Early was played by Bobby Troup who was already famous for something other than acting, and he was married in real life to Julie London who played Nurse Dixie McCall. Fireman Mike Stoker was played by a real L.A. fireman named Mike Stoker, because some of the scenes were shot on city streets and they needed a real fireman to drive the articulated fire truck, and they found one who also happened to have an actor's card.
I remember Randolph Mantooth and Kevin Tighe playing their characters on an episode of Adam-12 which was also set in L.A. And I seem to recall a few incidents of that back then, where characters from one series would show up for an episode of another that was on the same network and set in the same time and place.
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Ah yes, the Cadillac station wagons. One color takes you to the hospital, a different color takes you out. That must have been a horrible experience to be injured and then bounced around without treatment in the back of a hearse.
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As I understand, it's the same smooth riding chassis as a Cadillac limousine... just different configurations of the carbody.
Quote: WizardRandolph Mantooth, who played Johnny Gage on 'Emergency!' died yesterday at age 80.
This one rates an 8 out of 10 on my mourning scale as I was a HUGE 'Emergency!' fan when it was on the air.
More information: Randolph Mantooth, Firefighter-Paramedic Johnny Gage on ‘Emergency!,’ Dies at 80
Direct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmB-LGPpDpE
Note the actor's ad-lib in this scene when the dog runs into the glass door. :-)
Question for the grammar police -- Did I punctuate this one correctly? I wasn't sure how to treat the exclamation point in the show's name.
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Emergency is currently running on MeTV. I stumbled upon it about a week ago.
At the time the show aired, NY State and about 45 other states had laws that made it illegal for anyone other than a licensed doctor to provide medical care. An early 1970s survey indicated that over 10,000 New Yorkers a year could be saved by early medical intervention, but it was illegal.
Emergency inspired hundreds of towns and cities to consider providing paramedic services, but in most states, this required legislative changes.
New York State alone now has 80,000 EMTs who respond to about four million calls a year.
Quote: billryanThe show literally saved millions of lives.
At the time the show aired, NY State and about 45 other states had laws that made it illegal for anyone other than a licensed doctor to provide medical care. An early 1970s survey indicated that over 10,000 New Yorkers a year could be saved by early medical intervention, but it was illegal.
Emergency inspired hundreds of towns and cities to consider providing paramedic services, but in most states, this required legislative changes.
New York State alone now has 80,000 EMTs who respond to about four million calls a year.
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Are you saying it was illegal to do CPR or the Heimlich (sp?) Maneuver?
Quote: smoothgrhQuote: billryanThe show literally saved millions of lives.
At the time the show aired, NY State and about 45 other states had laws that made it illegal for anyone other than a licensed doctor to provide medical care. An early 1970s survey indicated that over 10,000 New Yorkers a year could be saved by early medical intervention, but it was illegal.
Emergency inspired hundreds of towns and cities to consider providing paramedic services, but in most states, this required legislative changes.
New York State alone now has 80,000 EMTs who respond to about four million calls a year.
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Are you saying it was illegal to do CPR or the Heimlich (sp?) Maneuver?
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The Heimlich maneuver had yet to be invented, and CPR training wasn't available to the general public. The Red Cross in the 1960s taught basic first aid courses. I couldn't go into detail about it, but in the mid-1970s, when towns started offering volunteer ambulance corps, there were all sorts of legal liabilities to sort out.
In the early 1970s, NY state passed a Good Samaritan law, which said that someone making a good faith effort to help in a life-threatening situation has immunity for their actions. It's been expanded a few times
It also runs regularly on FETV forever entertainment tvQuote: DRichQuote: WizardRandolph Mantooth, who played Johnny Gage on 'Emergency!' died yesterday at age 80.
This one rates an 8 out of 10 on my mourning scale as I was a HUGE 'Emergency!' fan when it was on the air.
More information: Randolph Mantooth, Firefighter-Paramedic Johnny Gage on ‘Emergency!,’ Dies at 80
Direct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmB-LGPpDpE
Note the actor's ad-lib in this scene when the dog runs into the glass door. :-)
Question for the grammar police -- Did I punctuate this one correctly? I wasn't sure how to treat the exclamation point in the show's name.
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Emergency is currently running on MeTV. I stumbled upon it about a week ago.
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Quote: billryanI didn't watch the show much, but I've read that it was responsible for a cosmic change in first responders. NYC, for example, used hearse-based ambulances and hired burly men to get patients in and out of them. You got transported in an ambulance; you didn't get treated in one. I'm not sure NY State even had E.M.Ts until this show popularized them.
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Getting off-topic, but when my father and father-in-law died unmarked white vans took the bodies away.
Quote: WizardQuote: billryanI didn't watch the show much, but I've read that it was responsible for a cosmic change in first responders. NYC, for example, used hearse-based ambulances and hired burly men to get patients in and out of them. You got transported in an ambulance; you didn't get treated in one. I'm not sure NY State even had E.M.Ts until this show popularized them.
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Getting off-topic, but when my father and father-in-law died unmarked white vans took the bodies away.
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Did the undertaker or the coroner pick them up? Hearses are built to carry caskets-heavy duty suspension, rollers on the floor and locking mechanisms. To carry a person in a body bag or a stretcher would require a van.
Quote: WizardQuote: billryanI didn't watch the show much, but I've read that it was responsible for a cosmic change in first responders. NYC, for example, used hearse-based ambulances and hired burly men to get patients in and out of them. You got transported in an ambulance; you didn't get treated in one. I'm not sure NY State even had E.M.Ts until this show popularized them.
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Getting off-topic, but when my father and father-in-law died unmarked white vans took the bodies away.
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I had a friend that was a bartender but had a side job working for the coroner picking up bodies at night. She would get a call, drive to coroners office and get the van, and then proceed to pick up the body. I have no idea what it paid but she thought it was a great part time job.
Quote: GenoDRPhSitting (well, not any more) GOP US Senator from South Carolina, Lindsey Graham, 71. Unconfirmed reports of a cardiac arrest.
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Since he looked fine day or days earlier, I'm assuming break-away plaque. But, could be some other things.
Quote: DRichQuote: WizardQuote: billryanI didn't watch the show much, but I've read that it was responsible for a cosmic change in first responders. NYC, for example, used hearse-based ambulances and hired burly men to get patients in and out of them. You got transported in an ambulance; you didn't get treated in one. I'm not sure NY State even had E.M.Ts until this show popularized them.
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Getting off-topic, but when my father and father-in-law died unmarked white vans took the bodies away.
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I had a friend that was a bartender but had a side job working for the coroner picking up bodies at night. She would get a call, drive to coroners office and get the van, and then proceed to pick up the body. I have no idea what it paid but she thought it was a great part time job.
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One of my security guys was an NYPD officer who had been a funeral director before he was appointed to the force. He drove a nice-looking Oldsmobile Station Wagon, with dark-tinted windows. He'd been picking up bodies from nursing homes and hospitals for years, using his private vehicle. I forget what it paid, but it didn't seem like enough to use his own car to transport bodies.
Quote: GenoDRPhDid the undertaker or the coroner pick them up? Hearses are built to carry caskets-heavy duty suspension, rollers on the floor and locking mechanisms. To carry a person in a body bag or a stretcher would require a van.
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Lackies for the "undertaker" did. I don't think people use that term any longer. Both times a couple young men wrapped the body in a sheet and wheeled it off to the van. I think they are looking to avoid any drama from neighbors. It also should be noted when old people die there is no autopsy or police presence. Everyone past a certain age should prepay for "end of life" service from a funeral/cremation home near where they live.
Lindsay Graham -- Dead at 71.
Dead at 78.
Quote: darkozSam Neill, lead of the original Jurassic Park and played Damien in the Omen part 3.
Dead at 78.
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I enjoyed his work. RIP
Quote: billryan[
One of my security guys was an NYPD officer who had been a funeral director before he was appointed to the force. He drove a nice-looking Oldsmobile Station Wagon, with dark-tinted windows. He'd been picking up bodies from nursing homes and hospitals for years, using his private vehicle. I forget what it paid, but it didn't seem like enough to use his own car to transport bodies.
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...and combining it with UberEats, it's good money.
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Lindsay Graham -- Dead at 71.
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I wish I looked like that when I was 71. That's because he isn't 71 in this picture, He's probably about 55. This is his official congressional picture God knows when it was taken but I'm betting 15 years ago. Here's what he looked like a couple weeks ago
His doctors had to be monitoring the size of his aorta and the condition of his arteries.
Sounds as though he was way overdue for surgery.
Quote: billryanMy father died from an aortic rupture in 1978.
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That runs in families You should be monitoring the size of your Aorta.
I knew someone who died at 41 when his aorta dissected in the hospital, two days before his mother was scheduled for an aortic root replacement.
Quote: Tanko'aortic dissection due to arteriosclerotic cardiovascular disease'
His doctors had to be monitoring the size of his aorta and the condition of his arteries.
Sounds as though he was way overdue for surgery.
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Having been involved with hundreds of aortic dissections over my career, there are many that are known in advance, and amenable to surgical repair. Some, depending on location/length/severity and overall patient condition were not considered worth operating on. And quite a few were found out at the last moment. Those emergency cases were amongst the most difficult cases I ever had to deal with. I was certainly aware that my conversation with the patient before he went to sleep might very well be his last.
Of course I can’t be sure, but I’d bet Graham had no idea he had an aortic dissection until the last moments, and it sometimes just feels like a terrible back pain.
Quote: SOOPOOQuote: Tanko'aortic dissection due to arteriosclerotic cardiovascular disease'
His doctors had to be monitoring the size of his aorta and the condition of his arteries.
Sounds as though he was way overdue for surgery.
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Having been involved with hundreds of aortic dissections over my career, there are many that are known in advance, and amenable to surgical repair. Some, depending on location/length/severity and overall patient condition were not considered worth operating on. And quite a few were found out at the last moment. Those emergency cases were amongst the most difficult cases I ever had to deal with. I was certainly aware that my conversation with the patient before he went to sleep might very well be his last.
Of course I can’t be sure, but I’d bet Graham had no idea he had an aortic dissection until the last moments, and it sometimes just feels like a terrible back pain.
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Frankly, with the importance of the aorta and the severity of the damage, I'm surprised anyone actually survives such an event.
Blood pressure is measured as a relative pressure to the ambient. Your body compensates for a change in ambient pressure, but not instantaneously, and if it didn't compensate that climb would cause a 200 torr BP spike which can kill you and especially if you already have a cardiovascular problem. I'd guess that for an older guy not in the best of health it doesn't compensate as fast, and being they were in Ukraine the captain might have chosen to ascend faster than normal, being altitude is your friend when there is a war going on and getting up there quickly would reduce the chance of getting caught up in some drone activity.
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyI was reading about aortic dissection and one of the things that can cause it is a blood pressure spike. Lindsey Graham had just flown from Kyiv which is just a few hundred feet above sea level, and the cabin pressure in a passenger jet is typically around 8000 feet, which represents about a 200 torr drop from standard atmospheric pressure at sea level.
Blood pressure is measured as a relative pressure to the ambient. Your body compensates for a change in ambient pressure, but not instantaneously, and if it didn't compensate that climb would cause a 200 torr BP spike which can kill you and especially if you already have a cardiovascular problem. I'd guess that for an older guy not in the best of health it doesn't compensate as fast, and being they were in Ukraine the captain might have chosen to ascend faster than normal, being altitude is your friend when there is a war going on and getting up there quickly would reduce the chance of getting caught up in some drone activity.
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The older you get the more you have to focus on not becoming brittle. Though there may be conferred benefits in your genetics that can help send you into oldest living person category.
This makes me wonder If anyone is tracking the numbers of air related aortic dissection particularly among senior citizens.
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This makes me wonder If anyone is tracking the numbers of air related aortic dissection particularly among senior citizens.
Gee, thanks. As someone who flies regularly and has flown close to a million miles I have never been scared to fly before. Now after having a second heart attack you are telling me my heart might blowout midflight. I currently have eight flights booked, should I cancel two of them to increase my chance of survival by 25%?
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This makes me wonder If anyone is tracking the numbers of air related aortic dissection particularly among senior citizens.
Gee, thanks. As someone who flies regularly and has flown close to a million miles I have never been scared to fly before. Now after having a second heart attack you are telling me my heart might blowout midflight. I currently have eight flights booked, should I cancel two of them to increase my chance of survival by 25%?
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The current air quality alerts due to the wildfire in Canada specifically warn people with heart conditions against heavy exertion outdoors.
For what it's worth, there was less wildfire smoke than this 3 years ago when I was troubled by my little episode.
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This makes me wonder If anyone is tracking the numbers of air related aortic dissection particularly among senior citizens.
Gee, thanks. As someone who flies regularly and has flown close to a million miles I have never been scared to fly before. Now after having a second heart attack you are telling me my heart might blowout midflight. I currently have eight flights booked, should I cancel two of them to increase my chance of survival by 25%?
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The current air quality alerts due to the wildfire in Canada specifically warn people with heart conditions against heavy exertion outdoors.
For what it's worth, there was less wildfire smoke than this 3 years ago when I was troubled by my little episode.
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I did not notice the smoke this morning, but on my way home I did. Looks like the 1970s!
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This makes me wonder If anyone is tracking the numbers of air related aortic dissection particularly among senior citizens.
Gee, thanks. As someone who flies regularly and has flown close to a million miles I have never been scared to fly before. Now after having a second heart attack you are telling me my heart might blowout midflight. I currently have eight flights booked, should I cancel two of them to increase my chance of survival by 25%?
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The current air quality alerts due to the wildfire in Canada specifically warn people with heart conditions against heavy exertion outdoors.
For what it's worth, there was less wildfire smoke than this 3 years ago when I was troubled by my little episode.
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I did not notice the smoke this morning, but on my way home I did. Looks like the 1970s!
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It smells like an electrical fire outside. Like if it was in your house you’d consider calling the fire department. I golfed in it yesterday and other than noticing it, it didn’t bother me. Today is much worse, so took a day off! Daughter and her partner are camping in the Adirondacks and my weather AP has their air quality as THREE times worse!
I texted my still working pulmonologist friend. He’s not getting out of work early today…..
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The current air quality alerts due to the wildfire in Canada specifically warn people with heart conditions against heavy exertion outdoors.
For what it's worth, there was less wildfire smoke than this 3 years ago when I was troubled by my little episode.
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I did not notice the smoke this morning, but on my way home I did. Looks like the 1970s!
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I decided to investigate some freeplay offers I got from a property in Iowa. As soon as I crossed the river today, the temperature went up 20 degrees. Wisconsin is blanketed right now.
