Celebrity Deaths

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Typical guy, "I will be fine, it will be gone in a few days. I don't need to see a doctor." I would do exactly the same.
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Me too. You are more likely to be killed by a doctor than by a sinus infection. If the death rate from my untreated complaint is lower than the iatrogenic death rate, I don't go.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022480424007790
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For some reason, I don't think anyone focused on their longevity and wellness will follow the example we three set.
I freely admit that much of my life should serve as a cautionary tale.

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NASCAR racer Kyle Busch, 41.
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Wow, that’s a shocker. He raced last Sunday. He was hospitalized this week for an illness. The family is not saying what the illness was.
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Sudden illness, to me, could be heart attack, stroke or rapidly advancing infection of some kind, like pneumonia.
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Is Fentanyl considered a sudden illness?
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Probably not Hantu Virus but it certainly matches the description.
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The medical evaluation provided to the Busch Family concluded that severe pneumonia progressed into sepsis, resulting in rapid and overwhelming associated complications. He had apparently been suffering from a sinus infection for awhile. He tried to power through it racing a Watkins Glenn and then last Sunday at Dover.
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Typical guy, "I will be fine, it will be gone in a few days. I don't need to see a doctor." I would do exactly the same.
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Except he LITERALLY asked to see a doctor as soon as his Watkins Glen race was over. That is the opposite of what you are claiming.

Anyone want action on when the bereaved family announces their lawsuit against doctors, NASCAR, their team, and anyone else they can find?
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Including over the wall, behind the wall, crew chief, engineers etc. there are probably 20 or more people with a vested interest in the season performance of a driver. It’s not like baseball where you can just put him on the DL. Missing a race and taking zero points is a big setback for the season. I don’t know what the doctor’s told him but if it’s left up to the driver, no one is going to take himself out of a race for a head cold.

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NASCAR racer Kyle Busch, 41.
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Wow, that’s a shocker. He raced last Sunday. He was hospitalized this week for an illness. The family is not saying what the illness was.
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Sudden illness, to me, could be heart attack, stroke or rapidly advancing infection of some kind, like pneumonia.
link to original post

Is Fentanyl considered a sudden illness?
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Probably not Hantu Virus but it certainly matches the description.
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The medical evaluation provided to the Busch Family concluded that severe pneumonia progressed into sepsis, resulting in rapid and overwhelming associated complications. He had apparently been suffering from a sinus infection for awhile. He tried to power through it racing a Watkins Glenn and then last Sunday at Dover.
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Typical guy, "I will be fine, it will be gone in a few days. I don't need to see a doctor." I would do exactly the same.
link to original post

Except he LITERALLY asked to see a doctor as soon as his Watkins Glen race was over. That is the opposite of what you are claiming.

Anyone want action on when the bereaved family announces their lawsuit against doctors, NASCAR, their team, and anyone else they can find?
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Including over the wall, behind the wall, crew chief, engineers etc. there are probably 20 or more people with a vested interest in the season performance of a driver. It’s not like baseball where you can just put him on the DL. Missing a race and taking zero points is a big setback for the season. I don’t know what the doctor’s told him but if it’s left up to the driver, no one is going to take himself out of a race for a head cold.
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If a driver is out with an injury, the team doesn't have a backup driver? I don't follow racing, but does the team belong to the driver or the car? Is his team done for the season? If you know, can you walk us through what the rest of the season looks like for the team? As succesful as he was, did he own his own team?

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Typical guy, "I will be fine, it will be gone in a few days. I don't need to see a doctor." I would do exactly the same.
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Me too. You are more likely to be killed by a doctor than by a sinus infection. If the death rate from my untreated complaint is lower than the iatrogenic death rate, I don't go.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022480424007790
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For some reason, I don't think anyone focused on their longevity and wellness will follow the example we three set.
I freely admit that much of my life should serve as a cautionary tale.
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I read an article today about which things really do result in unhealthy aging. In order: 1- Smoking, 2- Inactivity, 3- Excessive drinking, 4- Bad diet. Any surprises?

https://www.realclearscience.com/articles/2026/05/23/following_four_behaviors_after_70_could_boost_healthspan_by_10_percent_1183738.html

I can't complain too much about the health hand I was dealt nor regret the way I've played it. And I'm absolutely serious about avoiding doctors unless absolutely necessary. But tragic stories like this, Kyle Busch, young guy who was always under a doctor's care, remind us that: we don't always know how sick we are, the doctor doesn't always know either, and they can't always help us. A lot of this stuff is just random, and anyone who is experienced with gaming knows the meaning of that word and its implications.

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NASCAR racer Kyle Busch, 41.
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Wow, that’s a shocker. He raced last Sunday. He was hospitalized this week for an illness. The family is not saying what the illness was.
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Sudden illness, to me, could be heart attack, stroke or rapidly advancing infection of some kind, like pneumonia.
link to original post

Is Fentanyl considered a sudden illness?
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Probably not Hantu Virus but it certainly matches the description.
link to original post

The medical evaluation provided to the Busch Family concluded that severe pneumonia progressed into sepsis, resulting in rapid and overwhelming associated complications. He had apparently been suffering from a sinus infection for awhile. He tried to power through it racing a Watkins Glenn and then last Sunday at Dover.
link to original post

Typical guy, "I will be fine, it will be gone in a few days. I don't need to see a doctor." I would do exactly the same.
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Except he LITERALLY asked to see a doctor as soon as his Watkins Glen race was over. That is the opposite of what you are claiming.

Anyone want action on when the bereaved family announces their lawsuit against doctors, NASCAR, their team, and anyone else they can find?
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He did ask for a doctor to give him another shot, I assume antibiotics. If I am not mistaken that was about 10 days before he passed away.
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He asked to ‘see the doctor’. Which is the opposite of what you wrote. Once you ‘see the doctor’ at his status / income level, if you deteriorate you would call the doctor. Your point that he might have waited too long to do so is likely valid. We will never know the true timeline.

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Typical guy, "I will be fine, it will be gone in a few days. I don't need to see a doctor." I would do exactly the same.
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Me too. You are more likely to be killed by a doctor than by a sinus infection. If the death rate from my untreated complaint is lower than the iatrogenic death rate, I don't go.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022480424007790
link to original post

For some reason, I don't think anyone focused on their longevity and wellness will follow the example we three set.
I freely admit that much of my life should serve as a cautionary tale.
link to original post

I read an article today about which things really do result in unhealthy aging. In order: 1- Smoking, 2- Inactivity, 3- Excessive drinking, 4- Bad diet. Any surprises?

https://www.realclearscience.com/articles/2026/05/23/following_four_behaviors_after_70_could_boost_healthspan_by_10_percent_1183738.html

I can't complain too much about the health hand I was dealt nor regret the way I've played it. And I'm absolutely serious about avoiding doctors unless absolutely necessary. But tragic stories like this, Kyle Busch, young guy who was always under a doctor's care, remind us that: we don't always know how sick we are, the doctor doesn't always know either, and they can't always help us. A lot of this stuff is just random, and anyone who is experienced with gaming knows the meaning of that word and its implications.
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where does using drugs rank?

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NASCAR racer Kyle Busch, 41.
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Wow, that’s a shocker. He raced last Sunday. He was hospitalized this week for an illness. The family is not saying what the illness was.
link to original post

Sudden illness, to me, could be heart attack, stroke or rapidly advancing infection of some kind, like pneumonia.
link to original post

Is Fentanyl considered a sudden illness?
link to original post

Probably not Hantu Virus but it certainly matches the description.
link to original post

The medical evaluation provided to the Busch Family concluded that severe pneumonia progressed into sepsis, resulting in rapid and overwhelming associated complications. He had apparently been suffering from a sinus infection for awhile. He tried to power through it racing a Watkins Glenn and then last Sunday at Dover.
link to original post

Typical guy, "I will be fine, it will be gone in a few days. I don't need to see a doctor." I would do exactly the same.
link to original post

Except he LITERALLY asked to see a doctor as soon as his Watkins Glen race was over. That is the opposite of what you are claiming.

Anyone want action on when the bereaved family announces their lawsuit against doctors, NASCAR, their team, and anyone else they can find?
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Including over the wall, behind the wall, crew chief, engineers etc. there are probably 20 or more people with a vested interest in the season performance of a driver. It’s not like baseball where you can just put him on the DL. Missing a race and taking zero points is a big setback for the season. I don’t know what the doctor’s told him but if it’s left up to the driver, no one is going to take himself out of a race for a head cold.
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If a driver is out with an injury, the team doesn't have a backup driver? I don't follow racing, but does the team belong to the driver or the car? Is his team done for the season? If you know, can you walk us through what the rest of the season looks like for the team? As succesful as he was, did he own his own team?
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It's been a long time since I followed NASCAR closely, so someone else really should answer this but here's my understanding. There is an owner/team competition and a driver competition that are separate and run in parallel and the owner competition pays well. So if the main driver has to sit out, they can bring up a driver from the lower circuits to substitute and keep the owner points intact. However, chances are the back-up is not as good, otherwise he would already have a seat in the cup series. Of course, he might be a rising star which is another reason a veteran won't give up his seat easily. Fans (and therefore sponsors) only care about the driver competition so an ill or injured driver is a big set back.

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NASCAR racer Kyle Busch, 41.
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Wow, that’s a shocker. He raced last Sunday. He was hospitalized this week for an illness. The family is not saying what the illness was.
link to original post

Sudden illness, to me, could be heart attack, stroke or rapidly advancing infection of some kind, like pneumonia.
link to original post

Is Fentanyl considered a sudden illness?
link to original post

Probably not Hantu Virus but it certainly matches the description.
link to original post

The medical evaluation provided to the Busch Family concluded that severe pneumonia progressed into sepsis, resulting in rapid and overwhelming associated complications. He had apparently been suffering from a sinus infection for awhile. He tried to power through it racing a Watkins Glenn and then last Sunday at Dover.
link to original post

Typical guy, "I will be fine, it will be gone in a few days. I don't need to see a doctor." I would do exactly the same.
link to original post

Except he LITERALLY asked to see a doctor as soon as his Watkins Glen race was over. That is the opposite of what you are claiming.

Anyone want action on when the bereaved family announces their lawsuit against doctors, NASCAR, their team, and anyone else they can find?
link to original post

Including over the wall, behind the wall, crew chief, engineers etc. there are probably 20 or more people with a vested interest in the season performance of a driver. It’s not like baseball where you can just put him on the DL. Missing a race and taking zero points is a big setback for the season. I don’t know what the doctor’s told him but if it’s left up to the driver, no one is going to take himself out of a race for a head cold.
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If a driver is out with an injury, the team doesn't have a backup driver? I don't follow racing, but does the team belong to the driver or the car? Is his team done for the season? If you know, can you walk us through what the rest of the season looks like for the team? As succesful as he was, did he own his own team?
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It's been a long time since I followed NASCAR closely, so someone else really should answer this but here's my understanding. There is an owner/team competition and a driver competition that are separate and run in parallel and the owner competition pays well. So if the main driver has to sit out, they can bring up a driver from the lower circuits to substitute and keep the owner points intact. However, chances are the back-up is not as good, otherwise he would already have a seat in the cup series. Of course, he might be a rising star which is another reason a veteran won't give up his seat easily. Fans (and therefore sponsors) only care about the driver competition so an ill or injured driver is a big set back.
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Only drivers that attempt every race are eligible for the championship. If they miss a race, they would need a playoff waiver. If a driver misses a race due to a verifiable medical reason, family emergency, or the birth of a child, they can be granted a waiver and retain all accumulated playoff points, but they won't accumulate any points for the race(s) they miss. To accumulate points for each race,a driver must complete at least one full lap before turning the car over to the replacement driver.

Could be that Busch fell ill, sought treatment and perhaps the physician(s) recommended to sit out for a week or two to recover. Being a guy and not wanting to loose standings or eligibility, he decided to soldier on and not fully follow medical advice. Then his condition got worse and rapidly enough that he could not recover. If he had a viral infection,that would be somewhat more difficult to treat.

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where does using drugs rank?
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While "we" officially discourage the despicable practice, I make sure to pop about a dozen pills to help me through my day.

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where does using drugs rank?
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While "we" officially discourage the despicable practice, I make sure to pop about a dozen pills to help me through my day.
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Isn't that why Elvis died on the crapper

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where does using drugs rank?
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While "we" officially discourage the despicable practice, I make sure to pop about a dozen pills to help me through my day.
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A fair question, but there probably aren't enough elders who use illicit drugs and who also don't have lifestyle issues that would exclude them from a cohort of people who started out healthy to get good data. There may be more who abuse prescribed narcotics but if they have a doctor who is letting them get away with that they are also in trouble, and getting malpracticed on.

But there are people on prescriptions they don't need and that can't not be hurting them.

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where does using drugs rank?
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While "we" officially discourage the despicable practice, I make sure to pop about a dozen pills to help me through my day.
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Isn't that why Elvis died on the crapper
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The importance of roughage in the diet cannot be underestimated.

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where does using drugs rank?
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While "we" officially discourage the despicable practice, I make sure to pop about a dozen pills to help me through my day.
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Isn't that why Elvis died on the crapper
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Typical half-fast not so evenbob post. He apparently knows not the difference between regulated use of RX drugs and the abuse of same. Still trying to be relevant? Again, FAIL.

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where does using drugs rank?
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While "we" officially discourage the despicable practice, I make sure to pop about a dozen pills to help me through my day.
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Isn't that why Elvis died on the crapper
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In the hospital,we call that a "commode code".

Ronald LaPread of the Commodores.

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/commodores-co-founder-former-bassist-ronald-lapread-dead-75

How hypnotic their song "Nightshift" was, even for those of us not really into R&B. (I knew who Marvin was but had to research who Jackie was.)

James Handy, of NYPD Blue and a dozen other roles. Stabbed to death by his partner's son. He seemed to take roles that Brian Dennehy aged out of. A friend worked with him on NYPDB and said he was very helpful with opening doors for him.
RIP