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April 11th, 2024 at 9:51:44 PM permalink
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OJ. I won't shed any tears over his death. It would have been the decent thing to do to confess on his deathbed.
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He was a sociopath, maybe even a psychopath. They never confess to anything because in their mind they never do anything wrong. That's exactly what he acted like the rest of his life like he never did anything wrong. He thinks they had it coming so he killed them. Bill Cosby is also a sociopath and has been formally diagnosed as one. They have no real feelings for anybody but themselves.
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April 12th, 2024 at 2:32:53 AM permalink
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OJ. I won't shed any tears over his death. It would have been the decent thing to do to confess on his deathbed.
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He was a sociopath, maybe even a psychopath. They never confess to anything because in their mind they never do anything wrong. That's exactly what he acted like the rest of his life like he never did anything wrong. He thinks they had it coming so he killed them. Bill Cosby is also a sociopath and has been formally diagnosed as one. They have no real feelings for anybody but themselves.
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Remember the 911 audio of Nicole calling the cops because he was trying to break down the door?

"Can you describe what your husband looks like?"
"He's OJ Simpson!"

They said it was not the first time he did that. He did other things in public as well. The feminist crowd never came out against him after it came out as far as I remember, either.

OJ was clearly a violent and dangerous individual.
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April 12th, 2024 at 4:57:06 AM permalink
Did they ever speculate what was the trigger that set him to kill his ex-wife that particular day?

If I had to guess, (because it was such a messy scene) it seemed more spontaneous. Maybe he was going to talk to her, and mistook Ron Goldman for a new boyfriend, and that set him off. Perhaps he was in the habit of carrying a knife anyway.
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April 12th, 2024 at 6:31:50 AM permalink
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Did they ever speculate what was the trigger that set him to kill his ex-wife that particular day?

If I had to guess, (because it was such a messy scene) it seemed more spontaneous. Maybe he was going to talk to her, and mistook Ron Goldman for a new boyfriend, and that set him off. Perhaps he was in the habit of carrying a knife anyway.
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From.what I recall Ron Goldman was just in the wrong place wrong time.

He was just her waiter and knew who she was. She forgot her glasses and he was returning them. The theory is he came upon OJ murdering her, ran and was murdered.

I remember at the time someone defending OJ by saying there was no way he could have killed both people cause Goldman was running away and the radio host saying if there is anyone on the planet who could run an eyewitness down and catch them it would be a star running back like OJ.
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April 12th, 2024 at 6:59:05 AM permalink
Nicole's house was just a couple miles from OJ's, maybe a five minute drive. I think he stopped by to see her, saw Goldman there, lost it, went back to his house, got the knife, the gloves (the ones that didn't fit at the trial because they had shrunk from all the blood), came back and offed them both. He then made it to his plane in time and disposed of some bloody evidence at the airport on the way to Chicago. Maybe he even got the baggage to Chicago and disposed of something there too. 1994 - airport security wasn't the same, people didn't even need an ID to fly domestic.

The police went to lengths to frame OJ, such as by planting blood. It also didn't look good that Fuhrman claimed to have never used any racist terms and was impeached with a tape of him saying the n word over and over. The prosecution was blindsided with that and other rebuttal evidence. Also, in 1995, DNA evidence was relatively new and the jury didn't believe in it entirely yet. Scheck did a good job of berating the prosecution's expert witnesses including on the subject of DNA.

Judge Ito was a little overwhelmed by all the publicity, and might have made some questionable rulings that favored the defense while trying too hard to seem fair. Compare his handling of the OJ trial with that of Judge Larry Fidler in the Phil Spector 2008 murder trial - Judge Fidler really reigned in the defense and kept them in check as to anything unbalanced.

OJ's case was not typical. I saw an article about some L.A. murder suspect who had been arrested around the same time as OJ and already convicted and sentenced to life before OJ's trial was even over. If you have money to throw at the problem you might get different results, or at least delay the inevitable.
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April 12th, 2024 at 7:06:24 AM permalink
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He was a sociopath, maybe even a psychopath. They never confess to anything because in their mind they never do anything wrong. That's exactly what he acted like the rest of his life like he never did anything wrong. He thinks they had it coming so he killed them. Bill Cosby is also a sociopath and has been formally diagnosed as one. They have no real feelings for anybody but themselves.
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We have one or more like that on these forums.
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April 12th, 2024 at 8:54:22 AM permalink
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Did they ever speculate what was the trigger that set him to kill his ex-wife that particular day?

If I had to guess, (because it was such a messy scene) it seemed more spontaneous. Maybe he was going to talk to her, and mistook Ron Goldman for a new boyfriend, and that set him off. Perhaps he was in the habit of carrying a knife anyway.
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She called the cops on him banging on the door and going nuts days or just weeks before. ESPN replayed that this morning. OJ appears to have a history as a violent guy there. Supposedly they had broken it off for good shortly before as well. One thing I never remember hearing the defense raise is who else had motive? Random killings like that donít happen.

As to the outrun OJ point elsewhere one thing I heard they were afraid to use was OJ had a hard time walking after all the beating his legs took over the years.
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I was working in corporate travel outside of Baltimore at the time. The phones died during the verdict announcement.
After the verdict I remember White employees quite upset while Black employees quite pleased
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I worked right next to the SSA Credit Union, which was largely staffed by black employees. They erupted in applause when the verdict came out.
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A former colleague of mine, sportswriter Mike Wise, posted an excellent recap of several issues in the O.J. saga, including:
...a wise friend and colleague, who happened to be Black, explained:
"Many of us knew he was guilty. But we somehow compartmentalized that he murdered two people and instead focused on that he was one of the first we all knew to beat a judicial system rigged against Black people for centuries. It was like we got one back, as messed up as that sounds. No one wants to talk about that, but it's true."
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April 13th, 2024 at 2:27:04 PM permalink
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I was working in corporate travel outside of Baltimore at the time. The phones died during the verdict announcement.
After the verdict I remember White employees quite upset while Black employees quite pleased
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I worked right next to the SSA Credit Union, which was largely staffed by black employees. They erupted in applause when the verdict came out.
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A former colleague of mine, sportswriter Mike Wise, posted an excellent recap of several issues in the O.J. saga, including:
...a wise friend and colleague, who happened to be Black, explained:
"Many of us knew he was guilty. But we somehow compartmentalized that he murdered two people and instead focused on that he was one of the first we all knew to beat a judicial system rigged against Black people for centuries. It was like we got one back, as messed up as that sounds. No one wants to talk about that, but it's true."
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Very true, also a sort of "payback" for the verdict in the Rodney King thing.
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April 13th, 2024 at 2:48:05 PM permalink
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The police framed a guilty man. The defense made sure that the jury saw that framing.

The evidence as presented to the jury was also inadequate and contradictory (including the glove that didn't fit). There was no jury nullification going on, the prosecution just didn't prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt especially given all the holes the defense punched out.

But then, thirteen years later, OJ went to prison for nine years over something that might not have even flown in California - that all stemmed from stealing back his own property.
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What may have really done the prosecution is was when Mark Fuhrman was on the stand:
"Detective Fuhrman, did you plant or manufacture any evidence in this case?" "I assert my Fifth Amendment privilege." (He pretty much had to say that, as otherwise he couldn't invoke it when asked other questions about his past.)

And what DRich said was right - most of the time Simpson spent in Nevada prison was because somebody with him pointed a gun during the robbery. But I don't remember it being "his own property"; besides, apparently they stole some other things as well.

And now, on top of everything else, his estate is making it a point to make sure the Browns and Goldmans get none of it, apparently as revenge for how they released OJ's book.
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April 13th, 2024 at 5:44:51 PM permalink
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And now, on top of everything else, his estate is making it a point to make sure the Browns and Goldmans get none of it, apparently as revenge for how they released OJ's book.
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I suspect Simpson probably already transferred significant liquid assets secretly to his kids, unless the death really did catch him by surprise. Unless he was really stupid about what he gave them, it will likely be hard to prove. Or at least, a PITA.
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April 14th, 2024 at 10:03:03 PM permalink
Cancer didn't kill OJ Simpson, but it is coming out with a book next year titled "If I Did It."
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April 15th, 2024 at 12:43:45 AM permalink
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Cancer didn't kill OJ Simpson, but it is coming out with a book next year titled "If I Did It."
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April 15th, 2024 at 7:53:01 AM permalink
I just heard on the radio that anyone that went to visit OJ in the hospital right before he died had to sign an NDA, and cell phones and recording devices were banned.

At least one of the jurors has basically admitted they acquitted him as "revenge" for the Rodney King debacle.

I know there were a lot of black people at the time who were glad he was acquitted; I wonder if any of them have changed their tune over the years.
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April 15th, 2024 at 8:39:43 AM permalink
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I know there were a lot of black people at the time who were glad he was acquitted; I wonder if any of them have changed their tune over the years.
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My guess is just the opposite. If the trial were held today, the pro OJ faction would probably be several times larger, complete with daily "If the gloves don't fit, you must acquit!" rallies on college campuses.

I confess to being surprised by all the buzz OJ's death has generated in the press. I suppose I shouldn't be when you consider that the divisions in the 90's are, if anything, greater now looking back a generation later.

One thing I've learned contributing to this thread is that reading celebrity obituaries is neither a morbid pastime nor a glance to see who you've outlived. Rather, it's an oldies radio station where your brain peruses forgotten, dusty memories. "Oh man! Remember that guy? Wow! That really takes me back."
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April 15th, 2024 at 8:52:42 AM permalink
I'll be upset when Al Pacino or Robert DeNiro die. Not because they are from my generation - but, just because.

I didn't appreciate Ray Liotta's kicking off so early either.
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April 15th, 2024 at 9:13:51 AM permalink
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I'll be upset when Al Pacino or Robert DeNiro die. Not because they are from my generation - but, just because.

I didn't appreciate Ray Liotta's kicking off so early either.
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April 15th, 2024 at 9:20:31 AM permalink
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I know there were a lot of black people at the time who were glad he was acquitted; I wonder if any of them have changed their tune over the years.
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My guess is just the opposite. If the trial were held today, the pro OJ faction would probably be several times larger, complete with daily "If the gloves don't fit, you must acquit!" rallies on college campuses.

I confess to being surprised by all the buzz OJ's death has generated in the press. I suppose I shouldn't be when you consider that the divisions in the 90's are, if anything, greater now looking back a generation later.

One thing I've learned contributing to this thread is that reading celebrity obituaries is neither a morbid pastime nor a glance to see who you've outlived. Rather, it's an oldies radio station where your brain peruses forgotten, dusty memories. "Oh man! Remember that guy? Wow! That really takes me back."
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I can only speak from the fact my family is mixed and my black relatives and all the friends they have, basically everyone in the black community I know, freely admits OJ did the murders and that it's a shame he got away with it.

And yes these same people cheered when he was found not guilty. It's not a sea change in their beliefs but more that they always knew he was guilty but were too fed up with black men being found guilty who were actually innocent. Yet they Don't actually condone crime.

I don't even know of any public "Pro-OJ" factions. It's not like he was any type of political candidate. And his role model status was lost after the murders.

Ultimately it wasn't that black people thought he was innocent but that finally a black man, any black man was able to be found not guilty of a crime in a court system that often puts innocent black people in jail.
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April 15th, 2024 at 9:28:12 AM permalink
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I know there were a lot of black people at the time who were glad he was acquitted; I wonder if any of them have changed their tune over the years.
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My guess is just the opposite. If the trial were held today, the pro OJ faction would probably be several times larger, complete with daily "If the gloves don't fit, you must acquit!" rallies on college campuses.

I confess to being surprised by all the buzz OJ's death has generated in the press. I suppose I shouldn't be when you consider that the divisions in the 90's are, if anything, greater now looking back a generation later.

One thing I've learned contributing to this thread is that reading celebrity obituaries is neither a morbid pastime nor a glance to see who you've outlived. Rather, it's an oldies radio station where your brain peruses forgotten, dusty memories. "Oh man! Remember that guy? Wow! That really takes me back."
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I can only speak from the fact my family is mixed and my black relatives and all the friends they have, basically everyone in the black community I know, freely admits OJ did the murders and that it's a shame he got away with it.

And yes these same people cheered when he was found not guilty. It's not a sea change in their beliefs but more that they always knew he was guilty but were too fed up with black men being found guilty who were actually innocent. Yet they Don't actually condone crime.

I don't even know of any public "Pro-OJ" factions. It's not like he was any type of political candidate. And his role model status was lost after the murders.

Ultimately it wasn't that black people thought he was innocent but that finally a black man, any black man was able to be found not guilty of a crime in a court system that often puts innocent black people in jail.
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What I found out after the verdict from a female black coworker
There is an intense hatred among some black women towards white women that in their view snag the best black men out there
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April 15th, 2024 at 9:31:28 AM permalink
Yes. His guilt or Innocence, both then and now, isn't really the point.
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April 15th, 2024 at 9:34:50 AM permalink
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I know there were a lot of black people at the time who were glad he was acquitted; I wonder if any of them have changed their tune over the years.
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My guess is just the opposite. If the trial were held today, the pro OJ faction would probably be several times larger, complete with daily "If the gloves don't fit, you must acquit!" rallies on college campuses.

I confess to being surprised by all the buzz OJ's death has generated in the press. I suppose I shouldn't be when you consider that the divisions in the 90's are, if anything, greater now looking back a generation later.

One thing I've learned contributing to this thread is that reading celebrity obituaries is neither a morbid pastime nor a glance to see who you've outlived. Rather, it's an oldies radio station where your brain peruses forgotten, dusty memories. "Oh man! Remember that guy? Wow! That really takes me back."
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I can only speak from the fact my family is mixed and my black relatives and all the friends they have, basically everyone in the black community I know, freely admits OJ did the murders and that it's a shame he got away with it.

And yes these same people cheered when he was found not guilty. It's not a sea change in their beliefs but more that they always knew he was guilty but were too fed up with black men being found guilty who were actually innocent. Yet they Don't actually condone crime.

I don't even know of any public "Pro-OJ" factions. It's not like he was any type of political candidate. And his role model status was lost after the murders.

Ultimately it wasn't that black people thought he was innocent but that finally a black man, any black man was able to be found not guilty of a crime in a court system that often puts innocent black people in jail.
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What I found out after the verdict from a female black coworker
There is an intense hatred among some black women towards white women that in their view snag the best black men out there
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That's a totally different subject and works in all directions. Black men have been hung and beaten to death for just looking at a white woman.
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April 16th, 2024 at 9:03:04 PM permalink
Longtime Major League pitcher Ken Holtzman:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/16/sports/baseball/ken-holtzman-dead.html

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April 17th, 2024 at 9:35:17 PM permalink
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Longtime Major League pitcher Ken Holtzman:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/16/sports/baseball/ken-holtzman-dead.html

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Thanks for the notice.

To honor him, I should fire up EA MVP 2005 and put him on the mound!

I never heard the Jewish pitcher aspect whenever they talked or wrote about the '70s A's dynasty.
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April 18th, 2024 at 3:23:35 AM permalink
Another baseball ⚾ great Whitey Herzog has died. He was 92
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April 18th, 2024 at 7:54:40 AM permalink
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OJ wanted to recover his property and hide it from the Goldmans' judgment, and yes there were elements of kidnapping ("Nobody leaves the room!") involved, but in California, you can't be convicted of stealing your own property, which would have defeated at least the theft aspect, or robbery.

Robbery is a specific intent crime - you must have the intent to take the property of another - that does not belong to you. At common law, if the property is your own, that defeats the specific intent required to "rob" in the first place. At common law, there must be an "unlawful taking" to even get to robbery. But in Nevada, that sort of common law definition of robbery doesn't apply. In California, and other states, it does.

So if you go beat someone up to get back say your cell phone that he just robbed you of, grabbed out of your hands, you cannot be guilty of robbery in most states. Even if you pull a gun to get your phone back, still, the end crime with which you would be charged would not be robbery - it might be some kind of assault with a deadly weapon type thing, or brandishing a firearm, etc. At least not in any state that follows the common law.

Now who is going to go to all that over a phone, but if say some jeweler is walking out of a convention with a briefcase full of diamonds and some punk grabs his case and runs, the jeweler is not going to be guilty of robbery pretty much no matter what he does if he chases down the thief to recover the case. In most states.
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Man who shot at truck carrying his stolen motorcycle accused of murder, police say

This Las Vegas guy is facing a murder charge for chasing a couple guys who loaded his motorcycle into a truck and shooting at them. He claims that one of them pointed something that he thought was a gun at him earlier, before they drove off, but he didn't fire at them then - he fired later while giving chase.

No real justification while in pursuit.

Bailed out on $20K bond. Might be interesting to see if the bail is raised at arraignment. $20K isn't much of a bond for murder, even for second degree.
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April 18th, 2024 at 8:50:40 AM permalink
When I lived in Vegas, one night about 2am I was coming back from a casino and saw Porshe on the back of a flatbed truck.

Truck did a quick turn into a neighborhood where there are no garages or businesses. If I had had a phone, I probably would have called it in as suspicious.
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April 18th, 2024 at 9:29:39 AM permalink
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OJ wanted to recover his property and hide it from the Goldmans' judgment, and yes there were elements of kidnapping ("Nobody leaves the room!") involved, but in California, you can't be convicted of stealing your own property, which would have defeated at least the theft aspect, or robbery.

Robbery is a specific intent crime - you must have the intent to take the property of another - that does not belong to you. At common law, if the property is your own, that defeats the specific intent required to "rob" in the first place. At common law, there must be an "unlawful taking" to even get to robbery. But in Nevada, that sort of common law definition of robbery doesn't apply. In California, and other states, it does.

So if you go beat someone up to get back say your cell phone that he just robbed you of, grabbed out of your hands, you cannot be guilty of robbery in most states. Even if you pull a gun to get your phone back, still, the end crime with which you would be charged would not be robbery - it might be some kind of assault with a deadly weapon type thing, or brandishing a firearm, etc. At least not in any state that follows the common law.

Now who is going to go to all that over a phone, but if say some jeweler is walking out of a convention with a briefcase full of diamonds and some punk grabs his case and runs, the jeweler is not going to be guilty of robbery pretty much no matter what he does if he chases down the thief to recover the case. In most states.
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Man who shot at truck carrying his stolen motorcycle accused of murder, police say

This Las Vegas guy is facing a murder charge for chasing a couple guys who loaded his motorcycle into a truck and shooting at them. He claims that one of them pointed something that he thought was a gun at him earlier, before they drove off, but he didn't fire at them then - he fired later while giving chase.

No real justification while in pursuit.

Bailed out on $20K bond. Might be interesting to see if the bail is raised at arraignment. $20K isn't much of a bond for murder, even for second degree.
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He fully deserves the punishment he got for Murder for a stolen motorcycle. You don't commit Murder just because someone stole your property. 🙄😒😐
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April 18th, 2024 at 9:43:09 AM permalink
Dickey Betts of the Allman Brothers
I've seen him perform live at least 20 times with the Allman Brothers and once with his own band, Great Southern
Would go up to NYC to see a few Allman brothers shows at the Beacon Theater on broadway
I remember when he was kicked out of the band
I saw a show soon after
Some guy was yelling "Where's Dicky, Dicky Betts is the Allman Brothers"
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April 18th, 2024 at 9:54:46 AM permalink
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He fully deserves the punishment he got for Murder for a stolen motorcycle. You don't commit Murder just because someone stole your property. 🙄😒😐
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Perhaps I've just spent more time around motorcycles and their owners, but I think he got off light.

Murder is wrong, but so is bringing accomplices to steal motorcycles in the night.

(Self-redacting opinions about police responses to attempted theft of motorcycles.)
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April 18th, 2024 at 4:40:29 PM permalink
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Another baseball ⚾ great Whitey Herzog has died. He was 92
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I am too young to remember Herzog playing but I do remember him managing the Royals and Cardinals.
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April 18th, 2024 at 5:51:02 PM permalink
With the OJ Simpson Robbery thing, he SOLD some prized objects to get out of debt or something like that and then tried to rob the owners of the things he sold. That's Robbery. If I sell someone my prized copy of the Mona Lisa for $200,000 to get out of debt and I then show up at their house trying to steal it back, that's Robbery. The Mona Lisa copy is THEIRS since I sold it to them. If I want it back, I would have to pay them the $200,000 back for it. 💡
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April 19th, 2024 at 5:07:48 AM permalink
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r.i.p Dicky Betts, guitarist for the Allman Brothers who just passed at age 80

one of their greatest tunes - an instrumental

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https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/dickey-betts-allman-brothers-band-dead-727523/


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April 19th, 2024 at 5:37:27 AM permalink
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With the OJ Simpson Robbery thing, he SOLD some prized objects to get out of debt or something like that and then tried to rob the owners of the things he sold.
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What is your source for saying that?

You are completely wrong there was no allegation that he sold anything to anyone. There were some claims that the property was legitimately obtained, some that not all of the property was his, but none that OJ sold any of it directly.

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I don't remember it being "his own property"; besides, apparently they stole some other things as well.
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This is incorrect too - while it is true that some of those who were relieved of memorabilia claimed that they had obtained some of the items legitimately, the whole defense OJ presented was that the items had been stolen from him including from his home.

O.J. Simpson named suspect in armed robbery, says he was trying to retrieve stolen property

O.J. Simpson says he went into a casino hotel room only to retrieve memorabilia that he felt was stolen from him.

Two of the things OJ said during the incident - "Nobody leaves the room!" and "Don't take anything that's not mine." The first, supported the kidnapping charge, and the second wasn't enough, at least not in Nevada, and also not given the testimony of some of the others, to support an acquittal.

Simpson jury ready to begin deliberations
Simpson claims the memorabilia dealers had property that had been stolen from him. Defense Attorney Galanter, however, said that "doing this on your own, going into this room, trying to recover stolen property, is not right. It's just not. But being stupid, and being frustrated is not being a crook."

Early in the matter, before charges were filed:
Alleged O.J. victim retracts claims

A sports memorabilia collector who accused O.J. Simpson of armed robbery said Saturday that he was ďon O.J.ís sideĒ and wanted the case dropped.

The man Simpson accused of stealing the items from him is Mike Gilbert, another one-time associate. As Simpsonís licensing agent in the late 1990s, Gilbert admitted snatching Simpsonís Heisman Trophy and other items from his clientís Brentwood home as payment for money he said was owed to him.
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April 19th, 2024 at 8:22:39 AM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

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r.i.p Dicky Betts, guitarist for the Allman Brothers who just passed at age 80

one of their greatest tunes - an instrumental

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https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/dickey-betts-allman-brothers-band-dead-727523/


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Why are they all smiling in the pic?
Because they just scored from their drug connection :-)
What a great band
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Even saw them on an Army base
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May 14th, 2024 at 1:58:09 PM permalink
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Actor Bernard Hill has died at the age of 79.

Hill is best known for playing Captain Edward Smith, who went down with his sinking ship in James Cameronís ďTitanic,Ē and as Theoden, King of Rohan in the "Lord of the Rings" movies.
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Epic stuntwoman Jeannie Epper has died at 83.

Coming from a stunt performing family, Epper arrived when women started getting more action oriented roles. Her big break came when when she became the stunt double for Lynda Carter on TVís ďWonder Woman.Ē She also doubled for Lindsay Wagner on ďBionic WomanĒ and Kate Jackson on the original ďCharlieís Angels.Ē She did many films, most notably taking a famous tumble down a mudslide for Kathleen Turner in ďRomancing the StoneĒ
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Another stunt woman, Susan Backlinie, has died at 77.

Backlinie will forever be remembered for her role as Chrissie, who gets killed in the first reel of the 1975 blockbuster "Jaws." Thus, she's the first shark attack victim in the Jaws franchise. Although the role had some acting, Spielberg wanted a stuntwoman since it mainly involved being dragged and severely shaken in the ocean. Backlinie, who had looks, was a ranked swimmer, and could do some water ballet fit the bill.
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Roger Corman, King of the B Pictures, has died at 98.

Corman got his start in the 50s at Twentieth Century-Fox. Tired of higher ups taking credit for his hard work, he left to become his own low budget producer/director. What followed was a seven decade career making hundreds of B pictures, some good, some utter schlock. He's probably best known for his Edgar Allan Poe films in the 60s, usually starring Vincent Price. To give you an idea of his output, he directed all eight of the Poe films in a five year period, plus another twenty films in the same five year period.

Actors and directors who got their starts with him are called graduates of the School of Corman. Directors include: Francis Ford Coppola, Ron Howard, James Cameron and Martin Scorsese. Actors include: Robert De Niro, Bruce Dern, Ellen Burstyn, Peter Fonda, Barbara Hershey and David Carradine.

Corman's B movie making philosophy was that the audience will forgive you almost anything, except for the sin of being boring.
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May 14th, 2024 at 2:47:54 PM permalink
Doesnít really count as a celebrity, but not a good start to a career.

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LAWAL SUFFERED A FATAL BLOW TO HIS TEMPLE DURING THE MATCH ON MAY 12 IN THE UNITED KINGDOM

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May 14th, 2024 at 4:58:40 PM permalink
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May 24th, 2024 at 3:50:29 PM permalink
Morgan Spurlock who made the movie Supersize Me where he ate nothing but McDonald's for a month is dead at the age of 53. Why is no one surprised.
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May 24th, 2024 at 4:43:20 PM permalink
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Morgan Spurlock who made the movie Supersize Me where he ate nothing but McDonald's for a month is dead at the age of 53. Why is no one surprised.
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About as surprising that making a pig out of yourself for a month will have bad health effects.
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May 24th, 2024 at 5:03:23 PM permalink
I thought about that, but he tampered with his health (Super Size Me (2004)) twenty years ago for a one month period.

There are people who foster unhealthy habits for years, stop, and live to ripe old ages. Not always the case, for example with smoking - Leonard Nimoy was a heavy smoker for 45 years, quit, and died 30 years after quitting attributing his COPD death to smoking. Nimoy made it to 83 though and lots of non smokers don't even live that long.

In any case, his death at 53 whether it had anything to do with McDonald's or not is definitely not an espousal of fast food.
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I thought about that, but he tampered with his health (Super Size Me (2004)) twenty years ago for a one month period.

There are people who foster unhealthy habits for years, stop, and live to ripe old ages. Not always the case, for example with smoking - Leonard Nimoy was a heavy smoker for 45 years, quit, and died 30 years after quitting attributing his COPD death to smoking. Nimoy made it to 83 though and lots of non smokers don't even live that long.
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Short-lived for a Vulcan though.
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May 24th, 2024 at 5:33:06 PM permalink
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Morgan Spurlock who made the movie Supersize Me where he ate nothing but McDonald's for a month is dead at the age of 53. Why is no one surprised.
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About as surprising that making a pig out of yourself for a month will have bad health effects.
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Why are you assuming that he stopped eating McDonald's after he made the movie. Reading more about him I found out that he not only had an unhealthy diet but he was a drunk and claimed never to be sober in the last 30 years which includes the time he did the McDonald's challenge.
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May 25th, 2024 at 12:04:42 AM permalink
I find a VERY disturbing recent trend of Celebrities dying in their 50's. 🥶

Morgan Spurlock died at 53.

Coolio died around age 54

DMX died around age 52

Lisa Marie Presley died at age 54.

🥶
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May 25th, 2024 at 12:10:05 AM permalink
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May 25th, 2024 at 1:18:21 AM permalink
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Why are you assuming that he stopped eating McDonald's after he made the movie. Reading more about him I found out that he not only had an unhealthy diet but he was a drunk and claimed never to be sober in the last 30 years which includes the time he did the McDonald's challenge.
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Which negates his entire Supersize Me experiment IMO. His adverse health effects displayed in the movie could just as well have been a result of his alcoholism. In fact, that's probably more likely.
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May 25th, 2024 at 2:28:18 AM permalink
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Morgan Spurlock who made the movie Supersize Me where he ate nothing but McDonald's for a month is dead at the age of 53. Why is no one surprised.
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About as surprising that making a pig out of yourself for a month will have bad health effects.
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Why are you assuming that he stopped eating McDonald's after he made the movie. Reading more about him I found out that he not only had an unhealthy diet but he was a drunk and claimed never to be sober in the last 30 years which includes the time he did the McDonald's challenge.
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Not assuming anything on him. Pointing out how silly the premise of the movie is. Pointed out the obvious.
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May 25th, 2024 at 2:31:17 AM permalink
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I find a VERY disturbing recent trend of Celebrities dying in their 50's. 🥶

Morgan Spurlock died at 53.

Coolio died around age 54

DMX died around age 52

Lisa Marie Presley died at age 54.

🥶
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People start to die in their 50s. I almost died a couple years ago. If not for fear of losing my job I might well be dead as I would have tried to tough it out. As it is I figure I have 15 or so years left, maybe 20. So at the point it is more likely every year.
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May 25th, 2024 at 2:37:40 AM permalink
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I find a VERY disturbing recent trend of Celebrities dying in their 50's. 🥶

Morgan Spurlock died at 53.

Coolio died around age 54

DMX died around age 52

Lisa Marie Presley died at age 54.

🥶
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People start to die in their 50s. I almost died a couple years ago. If not for fear of losing my job I might well be dead as I would have tried to tough it out. As it is I figure I have 15 or so years left, maybe 20. So at the point it is more likely every year.
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You had a near death experience? 🤔🥶
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May 25th, 2024 at 3:59:09 AM permalink
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I find a VERY disturbing recent trend of Celebrities dying in their 50's. 🥶

Morgan Spurlock died at 53.

Coolio died around age 54

DMX died around age 52

Lisa Marie Presley died at age 54.

🥶
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People start to die in their 50s. I almost died a couple years ago. If not for fear of losing my job I might well be dead as I would have tried to tough it out. As it is I figure I have 15 or so years left, maybe 20. So at the point it is more likely every year.
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You had a near death experience? 🤔🥶
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My organs started shutting down. Was in hospital for weeks. They didnít even tell me how bad I was until I got out.
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