New Rule
Chris Cuomo is a HYPOCRITE!
Quote: MaxPenDo you go to the bus forum to discuss riding the bus. No, you discuss it here. Why? I don't care what you discuss by the way. I enjoy most of your contributions and opinions. Why do you care about what I post on? You're posts are all over the political threads. Why didn't you post on some politic forum? I don't even know any political forums. The only forums I frequent are all gambling and market related.
Please point to some bus forums, lol.
The new rule is no political discussion so based on the new rules why are you here if not for gambling.
I am first to admit I contributed to the political threads. But now I am ready for the gambling discussions on this gambling forum
My guess is you just enjoyed baiting people and you cant really do that in most gambling discussions.
Your only real target now are ploppies with negative expectations systems
And AP's who ride the bus
Quote: BleedingChipsSlowlyWaiting for that new rule to be posted...
(And an update to #14)
I may modify the wording, but here is how I have it now:
Quote: Rule 19Controversial Speech: In an effort to keep the focus of the forum on gambling, Vegas, and math, comments of a political, racial, religious, sexual, or otherwise controversial nature are not allowed. We recommend taking such discussion elsewhere (Added 8/13/19).
In case anyone thought we had 19 rules before, I like to make the Nuclear Option the last rule, so that got pushed down to 20.
I don't plan to close this thread, but controversial speech will no longer be allowed anywhere on the forum, including here. I think I've seen the same suggestions several times over, so I don't see any reason to keep posting here.
Quote: darkozPlease point to some bus forums, lol.
The new rule is no political discussion so based on the new rules why are you here if not for gambling.
I am first to admit I contributed to the political threads. But now I am ready for the gambling discussions on this gambling forum
My guess is you just enjoyed baiting people and you cant really do that in most gambling discussions.
Your only real target now are ploppies with negative expectations systems
And AP's who ride the bus
Just about everyone on here came for the gambling discussions. There's only so much about gambling that you can talk about. The only one who's really putting out new content frequently, AFAICT, is Wizard. Those don't really interest me much and I suspect many others aren't super interested in them, either (no offence!). Also, there isn't really too much to discuss on those types of threads.
My favorite type of discussions are ones that deal with the math behind gambling, whether it's how a strategy is generated, bet sizing / kelly / risk, or something counter-intuitive (like Joker strategy or how to maximize value on a progressive). Unfortunately, not many people seem to be interested in those types of discussions. :(
People stay here because of other non-gambling discussions like politics, what you ate today, bus riding habits in the North East, or what's the latest on Nathan's lottery picks. The forum is a pretty close community. I think I've met a majority of the active posters here, as many of them have met each other as well. There's also a lot of crossover between different gambling forums where this is also true, like VCT and BJTF, or BJinfo, BJ21, GreenChip, 2+2, PFA, and I'm sure others I can't think of right now.
Quote: Wizard
I don't plan to close this thread,
I predict this thread will become
the most popular in forum history.
Quote: EvenBobI predict this thread will become
the most popular in forum history.
Hot Blonde Challenge begs to differ
Quote: WizardI may modify the wording, but here is how I have it now:
In case anyone thought we had 19 rules before, I like to make the Nuclear Option the last rule, so that got pushed down to 20.
I don't plan to close this thread, but controversial speech will no longer be allowed anywhere on the forum, including here. I think I've seen the same suggestions several times over, so I don't see any reason to keep posting here.
So this thread is sorta like a hedge against the new rules not working out.
Just rename it EvenBobs Corner and we can move on.
Quote: WizardI think I've seen the same suggestions several times over, so I don't see any reason to keep posting here.
In an attempt to post something new, I never did see the need to split off so many topics. Politics threads should have always been encouraged to stay in a couple threads even when they wandered.
Wasn’t the gambling news thread complained about for wanting to make a new thread every day? So, he got one to work in. Same with Nathan. Not sure what happened there, but not sure why that shouldn’t be good enough. Block the thread, never see it again.
Quote: michael99000S
Just rename it EvenBobs Corner and we can move on.
I'm puzzled as to how to reply
to this because I don't know
what's allowed now. If I'm
snarky or ironic, is that 3 days?
Quote: EvenBobI'm puzzled as to how to reply
to this because I don't know
what's allowed now. If I'm
snarky or ironic, is that 3 days?
I was just kidding Bob.
I actually enjoy the pet peeves and remember when threads
Quote: Mission146Time is already up.
Apparently it's not. Are you disappointed? 🙃🙃
Quote: MaxPenApparently it's not. Are you disappointed? 🙃🙃
Apparently it is.
Soopoo was just suspended for a political comment
Are you disappointed?
Quote: WizardWe recommend taking such discussion elsewhere (Added 8/13/19).
(Relevant sentence quoted)
I see no reason you couldn't pop DiversityTomorrow directly, there are plenty of members/former members here who are over there.
If he isn't suspended it will certainly speak to the veracity of managements stated intent.Quote: EvenBobI'm puzzled as to how to reply
to this because I don't know
what's allowed now. If I'm
snarky or ironic, is that 3 days?
Even if you aren't offended, I am.
Quote: Mission146(Relevant sentence quoted)
I see no reason you couldn't pop DiversityTomorrow directly, there are plenty of members/former members here who are over there.
'Plenty' is a bit of an overstatement.
Number of visitors WoV today: 132
Number at DT: 30. And most of those
seldom post anything. Looking at the
names I would say maybe 8-10 post
with any kind of regularity. A minute
ago there were 0 members online.
Quote: darkozPlease point to some bus forums, lol.
The new rule is no political discussion so based on the new rules why are you here if not for gambling.
I am first to admit I contributed to the political threads. But now I am ready for the gambling discussions on this gambling forum
My guess is you just enjoyed baiting people and you cant really do that in most gambling discussions.
Your only real target now are ploppies with negative expectations systems
And AP's who ride the bus
Real easy to find. Here is one.
http://forum.bustalk.info/
People put themselves on the hook all the time. No need to bait.
I guess, for you, finding a bus forum is even harder than figuring out a potato chip contest😀
Quote: EvenBob
Number of visitors WoV today: 132
Number at DT: 30.
The majority of that difference is made up of Nathan socks.
Favorite lottery numbers
Extensive tests of breathe control affecting roulette wheel
Discuss secret system, except the secret parts.
Bingo is for lovers
Can you figure out this random pattern Part 1 of 80
gambling math, why.
Take my word for it, I win
Banging on slot machines
Unloved gambling trolls, worst rants
That’s a start...
Quote: EvenBob'Plenty' is a bit of an overstatement.
Number of visitors WoV today: 132
Number at DT: 30. And most of those
seldom post anything. Looking at the
names I would say maybe 8-10 post
with any kind of regularity.
Plenty is a qualifier, it can mean whatever you want it to mean. Don't forget that I don't really visit DT too often, but I guess my point was that I could name something like twenty DT members without even thinking about it or pausing without running out of breath. They all came from here, naturally, at least the ones I know of. Some of them may or may not be active anymore, I wouldn't know.
I honestly don't see the issue, unless people don't like the color of the website there. I have dark theme WoV on, don't know which one you guys use, but I can't stand the bright one. I don't see why the last person to post in (name of thread redacted) couldn't just take the most recent post prior to the one closing it, quote it and then move it over there. Everyone who liked that thread signs up over there, BOOM, same people, same discussion.
The only way that isn't true is if it's not about the people and the discussion. I find it to be a spurious claim that so many people are concerned getting rid of these topics will trash this forum when those same people rarely post in the gambling topics in the first place. Also, it seems that this rule could be reversed (unfortunately) at a later date, which means that I think they would then try something perhaps closer to my solution.
Anyway, ownership wants to do what it can to make the site better. They think there needs to be a refocus on gambling topics and a focus away from other topics which might be hogging up all the air.
Everyone just sit tight and see what happens. In the meantime, why not get together on Diversity Tomorrow to discuss the prohibited topics if you want to?
Quote: Mission146I find it to be a spurious claim that so many people are concerned getting rid of these topics will trash this forum
No, it won't trash it. Just make
it very peaceful and serene,
like that time after a big meal
on Sunday, when you nod off
peacefully on the couch. The
mods will be happy all the
time and it will be wonderful
for everybody.
Quote: MaxPenReal easy to find. Here is one.
http://forum.bustalk.info/
People put themselves on the hook all the time. No need to bait.
I guess, for you, finding a bus forum is even harder than figuring out a potato chip contest😀
It was much easier letting u waste your valuable time finding a forum I wouldn't bother with rather than waste my time.
I actually have important AP work to do than search for ridiculous forums
I certainly wouldn't want to discuss bus achedules. I already know the ones I need.
Now you should try looking up forums discussing forums where you can't discuss what you like in forums. Thats probably where you need to post
Quote: rxwineStarting list for new gambling posts
Discuss secret system, except the secret parts.
.
Here is the first post of that thread below.
Oh sorry, the secret parts were hidden
Quote: Mission146
In the meantime, why not get together on Diversity Tomorrow
I'm speculating that many won't go there because they're not fond of the word "Diversity"
Quote: darkozIt was much easier letting u waste your valuable time finding a forum I wouldn't bother with rather than waste my time.
I actually have important AP work to do than search for ridiculous forums
I certainly wouldn't want to discuss bus achedules. I already know the ones I need.
Now you should try looking up forums discussing forums where you can't discuss what you like in forums. Thats probably where you need to post
As I already know the pay tables and whatnot that I need. There is no important AP work. It is all just a mean to an end. AP allows me the luxury to find you a bus forum.
Quote: rxwineStarting list for new gambling posts
Favorite lottery numbers
666
Rest in peace, Nick Perry!
Quote: MaxPenAs I already know the pay tables and whatnot that I need. There is no important AP work. It is all just a mean to an end. AP allows me the luxury to find you a bus forum.
Sounds like an AP with nowhere to go.
Me -- once a play is in motion I am anxious for the next one.
Thats why I have operations in 5 states. Considering adding another one. Planning trips for the research.
Gotta take planes though. Too far away for bus travel.
Enjoy your free time. Look up some airline travel forums for me
Oh, make some more money so you can buy us all dinner next year. Thanks in advance.
Hunger fuels production. Nothing ever got built by a man sitting on a bus bench. I'd keep moving too if I feared winding up back in the subway as well.
Quote: rxwineStarting list for new gambling posts
...
Bingo is for lovers
..,
That’s a start...
I had a thread titled I Love Bingo! Does that count?
Quote: MaxPenWhen will you ever get wherever it is you're going?
We are all going to the same place my friend.
Start looking up forums for funerals.
The one place last one in is the winner.
Quote: darkozWe are all going to the same place my friend.
Start looking up forums for funerals.
The one place last one in is the winner.
And the Master of the Obvious Award goes to
____________________________
Work to live or live to work? You decide.
Quote: MaxPenAnd the Master of the Obvious Award goes to
____________________________
Work to live or live to work? You decide.
I will accept the award at the next springfling.
Have it ready.
Better not be a license plate
Quote: WizardYes, discussion of gambling anywhere will be allowed.
So, if a post is not about gaming, it better be about Las Vegas. For example, if a new museum just opened, WoV members may want to check it out, unless it opened in Reno, right?
As to whether or not the policy makes WoV better or worse, I'll reserve judgement. I have greatly enjoyed (and learned from) some of the stat-wiz posts. Likewise, we have some very knowledgeable tax-wiz members, and they have provided me valuable info. The list goes on.
I hope we do not throw the baby out with the bath water.
Quote: darkoz
Gotta take planes though. Too far away for bus travel.
Enjoy your free time. Look up some airline travel forums for me
Flyertalk.com is a great site. Used to have lots of AF content (Not just Air France, but Advantage Flyer discussions).
Quote: LuckyPhowSo, if a post is not about gaming, it better be about Las Vegas. For example, if a new museum just opened, WoV members may want to check it out, unless it opened in Reno, right?
As to whether or not the policy makes WoV better or worse, I'll reserve judgement. I have greatly enjoyed (and learned from) some of the stat-wiz posts. Likewise, we have some very knowledgeable tax-wiz members, and they have provided me valuable info. The list goes on.
I hope we do not throw the baby out with the bath water.
A wise man said, "why bother posting when you have to be worried about the gestapo at your online door?". Or something to that effect.
Quote: LuckyPhowSo, if a post is not about gaming, it better be about Las Vegas. For example, if a new museum just opened, WoV members may want to check it out, unless it opened in Reno, right?
...
You may have missed it on an earlier page, but that is not what the rule says right now.
Quote: Rule 19Controversial Speech: In an effort to keep the focus of the forum on gambling, Vegas, and math, comments of a political, racial, religious, sexual, or otherwise controversial nature are not allowed. We recommend taking such discussion elsewhere (Added 8/13/19).
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/2-forum-rules/#post37215
Quote: rxwineThe rules are getting long enough, we may need a preamble and signatories to it.
If I had to do this over again, I think I would have two rules only:
1. Behave yourselves.
2. This is a dictatorship and moderators can do whatever they please.
Quote: WizardIf I had to do this over again, I think I would have two rules only:
1. Behave yourselves.
2. This is a dictatorship and moderators can do whatever they please.
It's not like you don't have a second chance. What's stopping you from something like that? Makes a whole lot more sense than the mass of confusion that currently exists. As long as the appointed moderators are capable of being with limited bias that sounds like a formula for success.
Quote: MaxPenIt's not like you don't have a second chance. What's stopping you from something like that? Makes a whole lot more sense than the mass of confusion that currently exists. As long as the appointed moderators are capable of being with limited bias that sounds like a formula for success.
Who is confused ?
I log in now and see the Recent Threads list is 8 gambling related discussions , 1 bread thread, 1 coffee thread, and 1 thread asking what I ate today.
Exactly the way I hoped the new rules forum would be
Quote: michael99000Who is confused ?
I log in now and see the Recent Threads list is 8 gambling related discussions , 1 bread thread, 1 coffee thread, and 1 thread asking what I ate today.
Exactly the way I hoped the new rules forum would be
I was under the impression that some wise guy joined the Forum today and posted those bread and coffee posts as a joke/prank.
Quote: michael99000Who is confused ?
I log in now and see the Recent Threads list is 8 gambling related discussions , 1 bread thread, 1 coffee thread, and 1 thread asking what I ate today.
Exactly the way I hoped the new rules forum would be
Yeah, except bread and coffee could have been wrapped up in the way did you eat thread and that would have been better.
You can't teach a rhinoceros tricks. No they can't behave themselves, it is not in their nature, they need strict rules such as you enacted. I haven't been able to read any of what they post for a while all individually blocked but still their threads kept coming to the top of the list, which made me not even want to participate in the forum.
At least now these Know Nothings are prohibited from the political and other trolling threads that were giving completely the wrong impression for a gambling forum. Wiz, I believe you made the right decision, for this situation, given the players involved.
Quote: MDawgPeople who don't gamble or have nothing to say on the subject since they know little about it are still going to gravitate like flies to the threads like What did I eat today or Where to shop How to lose weight and Miscellaneous thoughts.
You can't teach a rhinoceros tricks. No they can't behave themselves, it is not in their nature, they need strict rules such as you enacted. I haven't been able to read any of what they post for a while all blocked but still their threads kept coming to the top of the list, which made me not even want to participate in the forum.
At least now these Know Nothings are prohibited from the political and other trolling threads that were giving completely the wrong impression for a gambling forum.
They should just take it to DT.
The best place for a discussion no one wants to read, is a forum that nobody else views.
Quote: Mission146Yeah, except bread and coffee could have been wrapped up in the way did you eat thread and that would have been better.
Look back at the coffee and the bread thread. It was a "new" member, just happened to join yesterday, apparently so he could comment about coffee and bread, and that's all he posted. Don't you smell a rat? lol
