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August 13th, 2019 at 7:36:35 AM permalink
After some discussion, site ownership and management have decided to make a new rule forbidding non-gambling and non-Vegas topics, especially those concerning politics, religion, and sexuality. This is not necessarily permanent. We will reevaluate after the dust has a chance to settle.

As to implementation, I will be immediately closing all active threads that are causing all the problems. Discussion of the new rule will be allowed here. For a period of 24 hours, to end at 8:00 AM, Pacific time, Aug 14, I'll allow posting of a "final word" of a nature of soon-to-be-banned topics in this thread only. So write your best manifesto for what you believe today here or forever hold your peace. Manifestos will still be subject to prior forum rules.

I would like to encourage posters who prefer to discuss now-banned topics to take it to Diversity Tomorrow or any other forum of your choice. Have a good day.
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August 13th, 2019 at 7:47:09 AM permalink
Dumb rule. Say goodbye to most of the traffic this forum gets.
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August 13th, 2019 at 7:49:54 AM permalink
No complaints from me. Just a constructive suggestion/request on 2 things.

1. Decide what is "Vegas" and let folks know. Is it just "gaming Vegas" or can people talk about whatever? (Raiders move for example.) Not that it will much involves me, but in the past you have encouraged us to give constructive feedback and have as well been grateful when we found a small hole or two and suggested a small fix.

2. Please encourage that it is about gaming EVERYWHERE if that is your intention. Lots of gaming news coming out of PA at the moment for example. For whatever reason, PA is heavy represented here. Thus I and others want to be sure it is all OK to post about PA news. I am sure it is but I have been around from Day 1, others have not.

As always, if you do not like or care feel free to tell me to go jump in Lake Mead, I hear the water level is up this year.
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August 13th, 2019 at 7:50:08 AM permalink
I'll likely be a casualty of this new rule. I started coming here because of my interest in gambling/math. But I have remained because I found a group of generally very smart people that I enjoy bantering back and forth with. The forum software allows me to block any thread I have no interest in, or a thread that bothers me, as The Gay thread does to some here. I guess I'm just not interested enough in the 83rd iteration of a blackjack side bet to make it a point to come here.

DT is no longer a good option for adult discussion as long as the poison that is Nathan is allowed to be there.
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August 13th, 2019 at 7:54:38 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

After some discussion, site ownership and management have decided to make a new rule forbidding non-gambling and non-Vegas topics, especially those concerning politics, religion, and sexuality. This is not necessarily permanent. We will reevaluate after the dust has a chance to settle.

As to implementation, I will be immediately closing all active threads that are causing all the problems. Discussion of the new rule will be allowed here. For a period of 24 hours, to end at 8:00 AM, Pacific time, Aug 14, I'll allow posting of a "final word" of a nature of soon-to-be-banned topics in this thread only. So write your best manifesto for what you believe today here or forever hold your peace. Manifestos will still be subject to prior forum rules.

I would like to encourage posters who prefer to discuss now-banned topics to take it to Diversity Tomorrow or any other forum of your choice. Have a good day.




Will discussing Atlantic City still be allowed?

Cutting off issues in all non Vegas gaming cities from discussion seems silly for a gambling forum?

I think this is a poor decision regardless as the vast majority of traffic in this site lately has been to the political threads.... DT is pretty dead and there is not much interesting debate there.....
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August 13th, 2019 at 7:57:22 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

I'll likely be a casualty of this new rule. I started coming here because of my interest in gambling/math. But I have remained because I found a group of generally very smart people that I enjoy bantering back and forth with. The forum software allows me to block any thread I have no interest in, or a thread that bothers me, as The Gay thread does to some here. I guess I'm just not interested enough in the 83rd iteration of a blackjack side bet to make it a point to come here.

DT is no longer a good option for adult discussion as long as the poison that is Nathan is allowed to be there.



Well said. I completely agree.

How will this forum be any different than VMB now, which has a much higher number of active posters than we do here?
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August 13th, 2019 at 7:57:24 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

I'll likely be a casualty of this new rule. I started coming here because of my interest in gambling/math. But I have remained because I found a group of generally very smart people that I enjoy bantering back and forth with. The forum software allows me to block any thread I have no interest in, or a thread that bothers me, as The Gay thread does to some here. I guess I'm just not interested enough in the 83rd iteration of a blackjack side bet to make it a point to come here.

DT is no longer a good option for adult discussion as long as the poison that is Nathan is allowed to be there.



I agree I enjoy the diverse backgrounds this forum attracts, making any kind of discussion more interesting here. Restricting other topics will slowly shed away many regular members.

As for DT, I have no clue who Nathan is, but that forum is dead and there is not much discussion of anything.
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August 13th, 2019 at 7:58:55 AM permalink
Quote: Gandler

Will discussing Atlantic City still be allowed?



Yes, discussion of gambling anywhere will be allowed.
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August 13th, 2019 at 7:59:11 AM permalink
This is a good idea. I've stayed away from the forum not just because of non-gambling threads, but also because often when gambling content is posted, certain members come along and derail the thread with little more than a "could not happen would not happen" comment, or hijack the thread with an insult intended to troll the OP, and then follow their comment or insult with some completely unrelated political or other strange discussion. This long post by Mission146 details some of that,
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/33442-the-gay-thread/11/#post734484



and Mission146 goes on to point out how certain members contribute nothing of value, and should simply be banned.




I blocked most of the offending members a little while back, they seem to have nothing useful to contribute and evidently don't even gamble anyway, so I haven't been privy (thankfully) to what has been going on at this forum for a while, but this is part of why I started the thread about the Forum being Dead
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/33311-is-this-forum-dead/
which lately with the bizarre off topic non gambling related threads, it has been Deader than Dead, it's been pointless.

Good riddance.
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August 13th, 2019 at 8:00:26 AM permalink
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Dumb rule. Say goodbye to most of the traffic this forum gets.



Speaking for myself, I won't miss that traffic. Goodbye.
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