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August 13th, 2019 at 8:00:26 AM permalink
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Dumb rule. Say goodbye to most of the traffic this forum gets.



Speaking for myself, I won't miss that traffic. Goodbye.
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August 13th, 2019 at 8:10:05 AM permalink
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Yes, discussion of gambling anywhere will be allowed.



I guess I should have been a little more specific. Local political issues, such as state takeovers of the running of the city, local vs state issues impact of the local economy?

There is a lot of political issues that relate to gaming in AC/NJ (I am sure that is the case in other cities as well).
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August 13th, 2019 at 8:12:19 AM permalink
I"m happy to see them go.
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August 13th, 2019 at 8:14:50 AM permalink
Quote: Gandler

I guess I should have been a little more specific. Local political issues, such as state takeovers of the running of the city, local vs state issues impact of the local economy?

There is a lot of political issues that relate to gaming in AC/NJ (I am sure that is the case in other cities as well).



I will say that discussion of politics will be allowed only to the extent that it directly affects the gaming business.
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August 13th, 2019 at 8:15:00 AM permalink
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Speaking for myself, I won't miss that traffic. Goodbye.



You have always had that attitude towards some here, so I wouldnít expect it to change. Disappointing if that is directed at AMS. He just recently posted a trip report that many found helpful and interesting.

The issue I see is how much is there to actually discuss about gambling? Nobody is sharing anything good and if they do, they get grief for sharing it. Understandable when it is affecting someoneís livelihood. And over the years we lost some good gambling content contributing members. Wonít mention names, but itís obvious who they are to most.

I also understand the owners singular goal is to get hits for online casinos. Most of us donít do that so we really are not valuable members to the owners here.

What will happen is that a few sites that are not managed as well as this one is will gain traffic, basically bashing this one. Making their voice louder as more read their rants.

All of that said, you and the owners site, your decision. I will say you have always been fair to most members here and ran a good site in a business filled with bad ones. And in a world of cesspools filled with anonymous posters, many here know and have met each other. Itís a community of people from diverse backgrounds who disagree at times, but are good people. Not easy to replicate that on a forum.

Best wishes Wizard.
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August 13th, 2019 at 8:17:50 AM permalink
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As for DT, I have no clue who Nathan is, but that forum is dead and there is not much discussion of anything.



Because DT is the same 7-8 people. DT was supposed to be the "relief valve" for this site, taking all the threads that were just banned under the New Rule/Rule of 8/13. All that is happening is we are getting back to the rules as they were the day after DT was created.

I just ignore Nathan.
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August 13th, 2019 at 8:26:13 AM permalink
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After some discussion, site ownership and management have decided to make a new rule forbidding non-gambling and non-Vegas topics, especially those concerning politics, religion, and sexuality. This is not necessarily permanent. We will reevaluate after the dust has a chance to settle.

As to implementation, I will be immediately closing all active threads that are causing all the problems. Discussion of the new rule will be allowed here. For a period of 24 hours, to end at 8:00 AM, Pacific time, Aug 14, I'll allow posting of a "final word" of a nature of soon-to-be-banned topics in this thread only. So write your best manifesto for what you believe today here or forever hold your peace. Manifestos will still be subject to prior forum rules.

I would like to encourage posters who prefer to discuss now-banned topics to take it to Diversity Tomorrow or any other forum of your choice. Have a good day.



Took a long time coming and not before time. Wizard of Vegas is suppose to be a gambling related site, such a turn off and many give this board a wide berth having to trawl though some of the non-gambling crap that permeates this board.

Maybe put Spike in the headlights, he knew the game he was playing by starting that thread, thankfully as time moves on, such closeted people will become fewer.
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August 13th, 2019 at 8:26:16 AM permalink
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I just ignore Nathan.



Thank you! How this idea escapes the anti-Nathan sect escapes me.
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August 13th, 2019 at 8:26:35 AM permalink
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I also understand the owners singular goal is to get hits for online casinos. Most of us donít do that so we really are not valuable members to the owners here.



I would disagree there. The content brings the lurkers who see the ads. Many is the forum I have stumbled in but not stayed. Those eyeballs have value. Even Wizard would not be able to recreate all the content from all the people. Or the breadth of advice we can all share. I have given casino party advice which while Wiz can blow me away in the casino math he probably cannot tell someone how to do a party night as well as I can. This goes on for all kinds of issues up and down the core group.

All that happened is the owner of the bar told the rowdy patrons to knock it off as the noise is bothering the other customers.
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August 13th, 2019 at 8:29:16 AM permalink
To me the political threads were like the richest junk foods. I knew they were bad but I could not stop anyway.

I always felt this site was for gambling

To be interesting it needs more than combinatorial math breakdowns.

It needs stories, fact or fiction. People want to read about events. Trip reports are good although the better ones tell a story rather than just how much was won or lost.

I tried more than any other poster I believe (except perhaps for Mission) to post gambling stories, and "secrets" within limits but those are so ridiculed by the other AP's.

One of the most interesting threads this year was "AN AP NIGHTMARE" because it wasnt political, it was what this site should be about. Gambling related stories (good or bad). But anyone who followed that thread saw all the vitriol that came of my just relating an honest nightmare situation I faced.

Well, lets see where this site goes now. But the gambling advantage secret holders will probably be the ones who keep the site from gaining any traction imo

I am advocating giving away the farm. But hiding the farm exists makes no sense either

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