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Quote: billryanI'd imagine there was a reason why the land was vacant and cheap. Just like when Wynn was able to scoop up the land for the Mirage dirt cheap since no one else wanted to build next to a volcano.
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Today Orchard Park is an upscale suburb with many neighborhoods with houses approaching $1million. By Buffalo standards, that’s expensive. No idea how much land cost 50+ years ago when it was procured for the stadium.
The way the weather is here…. Where I live, slightly north of Buffalo, the way the winds blow off the lake I get, these are the rounded numbers we use…. 50 inches of snow a year, Orchard Park south of me gets 100, and just go a little south of OP and you get 150 inches. That area is known as ‘Ski Country’’.
I’m looking out my window. Maybe got a total of two feet but spread over three days. Road on my cul de sac is totally plowed. If stadium was up here there would be no issue.
Quote: SOOPOOQuote: billryanI'd imagine there was a reason why the land was vacant and cheap. Just like when Wynn was able to scoop up the land for the Mirage dirt cheap since no one else wanted to build next to a volcano.
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Today Orchard Park is an upscale suburb with many neighborhoods with houses approaching $1million. By Buffalo standards, that’s expensive. No idea how much land cost 50+ years ago when it was procured for the stadium.
The way the weather is here…. Where I live, slightly north of Buffalo, the way the winds blow off the lake I get, these are the rounded numbers we use…. 50 inches of snow a year, Orchard Park south of me gets 100, and just go a little south of OP and you get 150 inches. That area is known as ‘Ski Country’’.
I’m looking out my window. Maybe got a total of two feet but spread over three days. Road on my cul de sac is totally plowed. If stadium was up here there would be no issue.
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The last time I was in the Stadium was in the fall of 1981, for The Stones concert. At the time, the stadium was in the middle of no-where.
Quote: Ace2Penn paid out $10 million. I’ve never heard of Penn and I’m only guessing Caesars is a significantly larger operation
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If you think of Wynn or Sands as kind of like Neiman-Marcus (i.e., upscale with only a few locations) and Caesars or MGM as Macy's, then Penn is more like K-Mart. Lot's of regional casinos with a focus on slots and a mainly older female demographic. Their deal with Barstool is an attempt to expand the market. As a matter of fact, today's NY Times has an article specifically about Penn and Barstool (https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/20/business/barstool-sports-betting-david-portnoy.html). The Penn-Barstool story is part of a set covering NYT's investigation of on-line sports betting. The other stories are:
- Cigars, Booze, Money: How a Lobbying Blitz Made Sports Betting Ubiquitous
- Why States Were Unprepared for the Sports-Betting Onslaught
- How Colleges and Sports-Betting Companies ‘Caesarized’ Campus Life
Anyone living in the vicinity of Kansas City should check out the one about the lobbying. There's a section about some shady real estate dealings tied to the legalization of sports betting in Kansas:
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The most likely site for the new stadium — envisioned as a possible future home for the Kansas City Chiefs football team, currently located across the Missouri border — was an area west of Kansas City.
The location was already a sports and entertainment hub. Sporting Kansas City’s stadium was there. So were the NASCAR racetrack and the Hollywood Casino.
Another 400 acres of land there were controlled by a company called Homefield LLC, whose owners included executives with Sporting Kansas City, according to property and corporate records. Those executives were drawing up plans to use the 400 acres for a sports and hotel complex.
Just before the 2020 election, Homefield and a network of related companies routed tens of thousands of dollars in contributions to Mr. Ryckman and other legislative leaders, according to campaign disclosures and corporate records. The sums were especially impressive in a state where House lawmakers can take no more than $500 in the general election from any one donor.
Quote: SOOPOOQuote: billryanI'd imagine there was a reason why the land was vacant and cheap. Just like when Wynn was able to scoop up the land for the Mirage dirt cheap since no one else wanted to build next to a volcano.
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Today Orchard Park is an upscale suburb with many neighborhoods with houses approaching $1million. By Buffalo standards, that’s expensive. No idea how much land cost 50+ years ago when it was procured for the stadium.
Probably dirt cheap. Back then the idea was put the stadium way out where you can charge for parking. Nobody wanted to live that far out back then, not that it is far out by standards of most cities. The McMansion would not be a thing for 25 years.
I have to think back to the Indians the place had a reputation for snow that kept people from settling.
Quote: ksdjdjJust had a $400 bonus bet on the 49ers' under 16.5 @ +500.
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That didn’t go well….. I have a bunch of parlays ready to hit in McCaffrey gets a TD. If not, back to the poor house!
It seems like you get thousands of these bonus bets every week…..
Quote: DRichI am not much of a soccer fan but I did record and watch that Argentina game. Wow, they had three goals overturned for offsides and lost 2-1. I don't think I have ever seen three goals reversed before.
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It is the overriding weakness of soccer (to me!). Defenders intentionally run away from the person they are supposed to be defending so that that player has no one between him and the goalie. The stupidest rule in practice of any sport.
I understand that at some point a century ago they didn’t want players ‘goal hanging’, and that’s what offsides was designed to stop. But it is now an overriding strategy to ‘put’ the offensive player offsides.
That being said, I had Saudi Arabia to outscore Argentina, Denmark, Tunisia, Mexico and Poland combined at 1,000,000 - 1. I just forgot to push the button to finish the bet…
