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Bottom of the 8th. Inning about to be over…. Ground ball snagged by first baseman Pete Alonso. All he has to do is toss to Edwin Diaz covering first. Except Diaz FORGOT to cover 1st. A major league pitcher forgot to do what a 2nd grader in little league would not forget.

Congrats on your win. I believe most Little League teams coach the second baseman to cover first. Probably because the distance from home to first is much shorter in Little League.
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All depends. A lefty pitcher is moving away from first base and has his back turned to the base after he delivers the pitch, so it's much harder to cover first. CC Sabathia had this problem in addition to his weight and a lot of runners beat him to the bag. But Diaz is righty so that doesn't apply to him, he was just clueless.

If it's a righty batter the second baseman will usually be close to the 2B bag and the first baseman will be about a third of the way in from first. So if he can't run it to first the pitcher has to cover, no way can the second baseman cover if the first baseman can't. This all depends on how deep they are playing too. For a lefty the first baseman will be close to the line and the second baseman playing midway like a shortshop but on the right side. Then it's possible the second baseman can cover if the first baseman had to lay out or fade way back to catch a ball.

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Bottom of the 8th. Inning about to be over…. Ground ball snagged by first baseman Pete Alonso. All he has to do is toss to Edwin Diaz covering first. Except Diaz FORGOT to cover 1st. A major league pitcher forgot to do what a 2nd grader in little league would not forget.

Congrats on your win. I believe most Little League teams coach the second baseman to cover first. Probably because the distance from home to first is much shorter in Little League.
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All depends. A lefty pitcher is moving away from first base and has his back turned to the base after he delivers the pitch, so it's much harder to cover first. CC Sabathia had this problem in addition to his weight and a lot of runners beat him to the bag. But Diaz is righty so that doesn't apply to him, he was just clueless.

If it's a righty batter the second baseman will usually be close to the 2B bag and the first baseman will be about a third of the way in from first. So if he can't run it to first the pitcher has to cover, no way can the second baseman cover if the first baseman can't. This all depends on how deep they are playing too. For a lefty the first baseman will be close to the line and the second baseman playing midway like a shortshop but on the right side. Then it's possible the second baseman can cover if the first baseman had to lay out or fade way back to catch a ball.
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I don't disagree but my comment was for Little League. I have probably watched close to 1000 Little League games and I would say 99% of the time it is the second baseman covering first. When I was playing we didn't have the pitcher cover first until we were probably 14 years old.

I can't think of the last time I saw an MLB second baseman cover the bag on that play.

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r.i.p. Pete Rose - (Charlie Hustle) a truly great player who has a checkered legacy who died yesterday

from the article:

"For millions of baseball fans, Rose will be known mainly for a number, 4,256, his total of hits, the most for any player in the history of the game. But he was a deeply compromised champion."

he was banned from the MLB in 1989 for illegal gambling including on baseball - he is also ineligible for the Hall of Fame

Rose later admitted he bet on MLB games but never against his own team


https://archive.ph/007gR#selection-811.0-832.0


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I think the most amazing stat about PR. There are only 12 hitters within 1000 hits of his 4256.
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I find it surprising that the closest active player is still 2,000 hits behind him.
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The game has changed. Players like Rose are all but obsolete. Luis Arraezz has won three straight batting titles but is never mentioned when discussing elite players. He's on his third team in three years. Today, if you don't have pop in your bat, the scouts move on. That's not to say Rose couldn't play in today's leagues; I just don't think he'd get the chance. Teams would rather have an infielder who can hit 25 home runs than one who hits .305.
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Pete Rose didn't hit a lot of homers but one year he had 81 RBIs, one year 82 and one year 76, and one year 74

Jarren Duran led the league in doubles this year with 48

in several years Pete led the league in doubles with 45, 47, 42, 51 and 42

as far as batting .305 it was his last several years when he was older that brought his lifetime BA down

in his best years he batted .335, .348, .338 and .331

he appeared in 17 All Star games, won the NL MVP award one year and was the World Series MVP 2 years later

yes, he was truly great - and not just for the no. of hits


https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/rosepe01.shtml

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he appeared in 17 All Star games, won the NL MVP award one year and was the World Series MVP 2 years later

yes, he was truly great - and not just for the no. of hits

I believe I heard he was voted to the All-Star game at five different positions.

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he appeared in 17 All Star games, won the NL MVP award one year and was the World Series MVP 2 years later

yes, he was truly great - and not just for the no. of hits

I believe I heard he was voted to the All-Star game at five different positions.
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He was a hell of a ballplayer, and a scumbag of a human being. That wouldn't have mattered if he hadn't bet on baseball and lied about it.

Here's some Vegas-related sports news: the NCAA announced most of its 2026-27 and 2027-28 championship tournament sites on 10/2.
Las Vegas will be hosting the 2027 Division I Women's Basketball regionals (at T-Mobile - and note that this is actually for two of the four regionals), and both the 2027 and 2028 Men's Volleyball finals (at Orleans Arena).
Las Vegas is also hosting the 2028 Division I Men's Basketball Final Four, but that had already been announced.
Also, this is not exactly Vegas, but Boulder Creek Golf Club in Boulder City is hosting the 2028 Division III Men's Golf finals.

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Also, this is not exactly Vegas, but Boulder Creek Golf Club in Boulder City is hosting the 2028 Division III Men's Golf finals.
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I played Boulder Creek many many times and found it to be one of the best public courses in the area. The course is not very difficult so I am surprised it is being used for a championship.

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kinna amusing article re Trevor Lawrence the Jags QB
the Jags are 0-4 and Lawrence has lost 9 straight games
less than 4 months ago the Jags gave him a $275 million record breaking extension on his contract_______________(-:/
Lawrence is now the highest paid qb in the league tied with Joe Burrow over the extension years
of course, he's not the only extremely high paid qb that has failed to produce - the article points out several others


https://archive.ph/ECnEG


and wow - Kirk Cousins threw for 509 yards and 4 TDs yesterday leading his Falcons to a 36-30 win over the Bucs

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and wow - Kirk Cousins threw for 509 yards and 4 TDs yesterday leading his Falcons to a 36-30 win over the Bucs

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Cousins has been underrated for years. I didn't expect much out of him when he left Michigan State but he has been pretty good.