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March 22nd, 2024 at 6:59:02 PM permalink
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Lebron James, the GOAT of basketball, at age 39 just had a 36/20/12 game. How many 30/20/10 games did Michael Jordan have in his entire career? That would be zero.
Rings with 3 different teams.
Please don’t give me a count of championships to determine GOAT in a team sport. Unless you think Robert Horry is the GOAT.
I watched MJ in his prime. He was an unbelievable scorer. Great defender. Clutch personified. Second best player of all time.
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Who would you rather have leadn your team. Lebron with 4 rings or Bill Russell with 11? And spare us the "Robert Horry" excuse.
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I am old enough to have watched Russell. GREAT one dimensional player surrounded by GREAT multidimensional players. Trying to say he’s as good as Lebron is just silly. But feel free to be silly.
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March 22nd, 2024 at 7:03:39 PM permalink
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Yale!
No doubt many of those kids would have been on a dark path had it not been for that game, but this could be the turning point in their lives.
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Definitely!! Without basketball what will they have to fall back on? Back on the mean streets of New Haven, selling their BMW's and panhandling for Starbucks gift cards.
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March 23rd, 2024 at 5:55:31 AM permalink
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Zach Edey - 7'4" - 30 points and 21 rebounds as Purdue crushes Grambling

he's way, way too much for college boys - I don't even think NBA pros can handle him

the well known basketball powerhouse GRAND CANYON plays Alabama next______________:)

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March 23rd, 2024 at 6:15:12 AM permalink
I would be surprised if a good player in the NBA, will be a star in Europe, 15 years ago would have been a different story.

It’s all about the defensive 3 seconds rule (not a rule on FIBA or college) combined with most NBA players being able to shoot 3’s well now. They’ll make him play some defense on the perimeter any time he’s on the floor, and he’s likely simply not capable of moving his feet well enough to survive.

He also has more turnovers than assists in college, which he’s capable of improving, and it has to if he’s gonna make it.
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March 23rd, 2024 at 6:22:54 AM permalink
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what odds would you put on GRAND CANYON to win it all____________?

more than 1000/1_________?__________:)

they easily took care of Saint Mary's (3900 students) in the first round

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March 23rd, 2024 at 6:57:26 AM permalink
Grand Canyon is not a bad team at all. I'd say the same of James Madison University.
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March 23rd, 2024 at 7:28:21 AM permalink
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on the women's side Audie Crooks - a very large 6'3" freshman for Iowa State is crushing
she got 40 as her team beat Maryland
her game is in the paint - she barely jumps when she scores - no more than one inch off of the floor
she's able to keep defenders away due to her size

and yes, there are some women who can dunk - she isn't one of them

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March 24th, 2024 at 10:38:56 AM permalink
Day 3 of Men's March Madness had no upsets. I don't count Gonzaga (5 seed) over Kansas (4 seed). Kansas was missing their best player and was playing at altitude (Salt Lake City) while being notorious for having no bench. So Kansas' collapse in the second half is not at all surprising. 14 seed Oakland over 3 seed Kentucky remains the shocker of the tournament.

So far all of the 1 and 2 seeds have survived and have looked a cut above the field. Looking ahead, the Elite Eight round is shaping up as awesome.
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March 25th, 2024 at 9:52:45 AM permalink
Mostly for LilRed….

67 free throws in a row this morning. Finished 100 at 97/100. Texas A & M is on to the next round if they can hit 75%. I still have one year of eligibility left…!!???
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March 26th, 2024 at 3:36:55 AM permalink
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Mostly for LilRed….

67 free throws in a row this morning. Finished 100 at 97/100. Texas A & M is on to the next round if they can hit 75%. I still have one year of eligibility left…!!???
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I think I would be more likely to miss 67 in a row before making 15 in a row.
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March 26th, 2024 at 6:27:35 AM permalink
https://apnews.com/article/march-madness-utah-hate-crime-b865b768243e1d3c9c38ee796e3d80bb
https://www.ksl.com/article/50961584/i-was-just-numb-utah-forced-to-move-hotels-after-racial-hate-crimes-during-ncaa-tournament
WTF is wrong with the NCAA
The games are in Spokane WA
The team was forced to stay at a hotel in a neighboring state
WA police escorting the team have no power in Idaho
NCAA and host Gonzaga finally moves the team into a Spokane hotel
I hope this isn't a case where the Men's teams gets to stay in Spokane while the Women's teams have to stay in a neighboring state
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March 26th, 2024 at 7:12:12 AM permalink
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https://apnews.com/article/march-madness-utah-hate-crime-b865b768243e1d3c9c38ee796e3d80bb
https://www.ksl.com/article/50961584/i-was-just-numb-utah-forced-to-move-hotels-after-racial-hate-crimes-during-ncaa-tournament
WTF is wrong with the NCAA
The games are in Spokane WA
The team was forced to stay at a hotel in a neighboring state
WA police escorting the team have no power in Idaho
NCAA and host Gonzaga finally moves the team into a Spokane hotel
I hope this isn't a case where the Men's teams gets to stay in Spokane while the Women's teams have to stay in a neighboring state
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Probability of hate crimes or other nasty behavior from fans has to be increased due to the nature of how NCAA women’s tournament schedules the first two rounds. Women’s tournament, unlike men’s, the first two rounds are not held at a neutral site, they’re played at the home site of the top 16 seeded teams. What could ever go wrong with that….
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March 26th, 2024 at 10:03:13 AM permalink
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https://apnews.com/article/march-madness-utah-hate-crime-b865b768243e1d3c9c38ee796e3d80bb
https://www.ksl.com/article/50961584/i-was-just-numb-utah-forced-to-move-hotels-after-racial-hate-crimes-during-ncaa-tournament
WTF is wrong with the NCAA
The games are in Spokane WA
The team was forced to stay at a hotel in a neighboring state
WA police escorting the team have no power in Idaho
NCAA and host Gonzaga finally moves the team into a Spokane hotel
I hope this isn't a case where the Men's teams gets to stay in Spokane while the Women's teams have to stay in a neighboring state
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Probability of hate crimes or other nasty behavior from fans has to be increased due to the nature of how NCAA women’s tournament schedules the first two rounds. Women’s tournament, unlike men’s, the first two rounds are not held at a neutral site, they’re played at the home site of the top 16 seeded teams. What could ever go wrong with that….
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Maybe it's the rural area they had to stay in rather then a home site of a team
Spokane was hosting both the Men and Women
I am a huge MD Womwns basketball fan and we hosted for years. Womens basketball fans are a whole different breed from the Mens fans. Much more respectful. No doubt these were not basketball fans but local yokes that will spew hate simply due to the color of one's skin
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March 26th, 2024 at 10:37:47 AM permalink
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Hate, is still alive and well in America

in 2022 21 hate and anti-government groups were tracked in Idaho_______see link

the Utah team was playing in Spokane but their hotel was in Idaho

The Southern Poverty Law Center in its 2022 annual report listed 1,225 active hate groups across the U.S.- including these from the 1999 report per Wiki - see link

51 - Ku Klux Klan

112 neo Nazi

148 White Nationalists

63 racist skinheads

100 anti-Muslim_____________and many, many more



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_organizations_designated_by_the_Southern_Poverty_Law_Center_as_hate_groups


https://www.splcenter.org/states/idaho

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March 26th, 2024 at 12:58:18 PM permalink
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https://apnews.com/article/march-madness-utah-hate-crime-b865b768243e1d3c9c38ee796e3d80bb
https://www.ksl.com/article/50961584/i-was-just-numb-utah-forced-to-move-hotels-after-racial-hate-crimes-during-ncaa-tournament
WTF is wrong with the NCAA
The games are in Spokane WA
The team was forced to stay at a hotel in a neighboring state
WA police escorting the team have no power in Idaho
NCAA and host Gonzaga finally moves the team into a Spokane hotel
I hope this isn't a case where the Men's teams gets to stay in Spokane while the Women's teams have to stay in a neighboring state
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Probability of hate crimes or other nasty behavior from fans has to be increased due to the nature of how NCAA women’s tournament schedules the first two rounds. Women’s tournament, unlike men’s, the first two rounds are not held at a neutral site, they’re played at the home site of the top 16 seeded teams. What could ever go wrong with that….
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Maybe it's the rural area they had to stay in rather then a home site of a team
Spokane was hosting both the Men and Women
I am a huge MD Womwns basketball fan and we hosted for years. Womens basketball fans are a whole different breed from the Mens fans. Much more respectful. No doubt these were not basketball fans but local yokes that will spew hate simply due to the color of one's skin
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Cord’elain is not rural. About 98%+ probability the people harassing them can’t afford to live in Cord’elaine and are from rural Idaho or Washington though. Fair to say there’s probably multiple factors involved. Twin Falls and Cord’elaine not really any different than Spokane culturally it’s all the spokane metro. I will not accept a statement as fact that women’s basketball fans are somehow categorically better human beings than men’s basketball fans though.

Sounds as though Spokane is just not a suitable site to hold both men’s and women’s regionals simultaneously period, it’s just not big enough and was a poor choice.
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March 26th, 2024 at 1:40:15 PM permalink
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hard to believe
in November the Fairfield women beat Lehman by a score of 101-14
it was 50-2 at the half
I've never before heard of a score like that
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https://connecticut.news12.com/fairfield-stags-beat-lehman-college-in-blowout

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March 26th, 2024 at 3:23:25 PM permalink
The Ohtani saga
I think Ohtani kinowingly paid off his friends gambling debts
I dont think Ohtani ever gambled himself.
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March 26th, 2024 at 3:38:48 PM permalink
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hard to believe
in November the Fairfield women beat Lehman by a score of 101-14
it was 50-2 at the half
I've never before heard of a score like that
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https://connecticut.news12.com/fairfield-stags-beat-lehman-college-in-blowout

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Lehman is a City University of NY (CUNY) College 4-year school of 14,000 students located in the Bronx. Their Women's basketball coach has been there for 18 years and he has a lifetime winning record. Their Women's BB team are in the CUNY Athletic Conference (a Division III NCAA conference) and finished the season with a 7-19 record, losing their last game 77-56. Their epic loss to Fairfield was the first game of the season for both schools.

This is Fairfield Univ. in Connecticut; enrollment is 5,000. It was founded by Jesuit Catholics and remains a private Catholic college.

This year's Fairfield Women's BB team finished the season 31-2 (20-0 in the Metro Athletic Conference, a Division I NCAA conference) and went to the Women's NCAA Tournament where they lost in the first round to Indiana University. Fairfield's opponents (other than Lehman) never scored less than 42 points in any of the games, so the Lehman game score is definitely an outlier.

So, this was a very good Division 1 school playing their first game of the season against a Division III inner-city college. And it is Women's Basketball -a sport where there can be enormous differences between the best and worst teams.

But it still seems difficult to believe that Lehman managed only 2 points in the first two quarters of play. One can only speculate whether there were other reasons that the Lehman College team was so dysfunctional.
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March 27th, 2024 at 6:24:58 AM permalink
Maybe this should go in easy math puzzles. Last night on millionaire they wanted to know the approximate circumference of a major league baseball. 6,9,12, or 15 inches? The contestant used 50/50 lifeline and still missed it
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March 27th, 2024 at 6:57:00 AM permalink
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Maybe this should go in easy math puzzles. Last night on millionaire they wanted to know the approximate circumference of a major league baseball. 6,9,12, or 15 inches? The contestant used 50/50 lifeline and still missed it
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I think I would have guessed 12 just by assuming the radius is around 2 or so and 2*3.14*2 would be around 12.
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March 27th, 2024 at 7:11:48 AM permalink
correct answer was 9 inches. 50/50 left 6 and 9
answer in spoiler tag
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March 27th, 2024 at 8:15:57 AM permalink
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in the upcoming season the 𝑵𝑭𝑳 𝑯𝑨𝑺 𝑵𝑬𝑾 𝑲𝑰𝑪𝑲𝑶𝑭𝑭 𝑹𝑼𝑳𝑬𝑺 designed to reduce concussions due to high speed collisions - it's a modified version of the XFL kickoff rule

the kicker will still kick off from the 35 yard line but the other 10 members of the kickoff team will line up at the receiving team's 40 yard line

no one but the kicker and returners can move until the ball is caught or hits the ground

19 or 20 players will be standing still for a few seconds until the ball is caught or hits the ground

at least 9 members of the return team will be between the 35 and 30 yard lines in what is called the "setup zone"

the touchback spot is moved back from the 35 to the 30 yard line

they estimate that because of the changes 50 to 60% of kickoffs will be returned in 2024 compared to only 21% in 2023

teams have to declare their intention to do an onside kick which will remain in the traditional formation used up until this year



https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39813751/everything-know-nfl-hybrid-kickoff-rule-change


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March 27th, 2024 at 8:48:47 AM permalink
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in the upcoming season the 𝑵𝑭𝑳 𝑯𝑨𝑺 𝑵𝑬𝑾 𝑲𝑰𝑪𝑲𝑶𝑭𝑭 𝑹𝑼𝑳𝑬𝑺 designed to reduce concussions due to high speed collisions - it's a modified version of the XFL kickoff rule

the kicker will still kick off from the 35 yard line but the other 10 members of the kickoff team will line up at the receiving team's 40 yard line

no one but the kicker and returners can move until the ball is caught or hits the ground

19 or 20 players will be standing still for a few seconds until the ball is caught or hits the ground

at least 9 members of the return team will be between the 35 and 30 yard lines in what is called the "setup zone"

the touchback spot is moved back from the 35 to the 30 yard line

they estimate that because of the changes 50 to 60% of kickoffs will be returned in 2024 compared to only 21% in 2023

teams have to declare their intention to do an onside kick which will remain in the traditional formation used up until this year



https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39813751/everything-know-nfl-hybrid-kickoff-rule-change


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The touchback spot is now the 25, not the 35. I love the rule. Watching a kicker just blast it into the end zone is not interesting. It will certainly introduce a new skill set needed by kickers.
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March 27th, 2024 at 9:09:13 AM permalink
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Ohtani is caught up in a gambling scandal
apparently payments to an illegal bookie were made from his accounts due to his interpreter, Mizuhara, losing vast sums of money in the millions

Ohtani has a different version of the events than his interpreter
Ohtani's version is that Mizuhara somehow stole the money from him and that he knew nothing about it
Mizuhara claims that Ohtani knew about the debts but did not know they were gambling debts
there were 8 or 9 transactions going to the bookie each for half a million


https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/39784809/dodgers-shohei-ohtani-mizuhara-theft-line


SOOPOO - according to the espn article I linked as well as an AP news article - linked - the new touchback spot in the upcoming NFL season is the 30, not the 25 as you posted


https://apnews.com/article/nfl-kickoffs-hip-drop-explainer-70ab74a1247ff62ca96db75c3c21ffd7

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Ohtani is caught up in a gambling scandal
apparently payments to an illegal bookie were made from his accounts due to his interpreter, Mizuhara, losing vast sums of money in the millions

Ohtani has a different version of the events than his interpreter
Ohtani's version is that Mizuhara somehow stole the money from him and that he knew nothing about it
Mizuhara claims that Ohtani knew about the debts but did not know they were gambling debts
there were 8 or 9 transactions going to the bookie each for half a million


https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/39784809/dodgers-shohei-ohtani-mizuhara-theft-line


SOOPOO - according to the espn article I linked as well as an AP news article - linked - the new touchback spot in the upcoming NFL season is the 30, not the 25 as you posted


https://apnews.com/article/nfl-kickoffs-hip-drop-explainer-70ab74a1247ff62ca96db75c3c21ffd7

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I think Ohtani knew he was bailing out his friends gambling debts
Now that the sh#t has hit the fan
He is disavowing that knowledge

By the way, little Red Rooster is one of my faves
Huge Willie Dixon and Howling Wolf fan
Grateful Dead covered the song many times
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March 27th, 2024 at 10:51:15 AM permalink
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Ohtani is caught up in a gambling scandal
apparently payments to an illegal bookie were made from his accounts due to his interpreter, Mizuhara, losing vast sums of money in the millions

Ohtani has a different version of the events than his interpreter
Ohtani's version is that Mizuhara somehow stole the money from him and that he knew nothing about it
Mizuhara claims that Ohtani knew about the debts but did not know they were gambling debts
there were 8 or 9 transactions going to the bookie each for half a million


https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/39784809/dodgers-shohei-ohtani-mizuhara-theft-line


SOOPOO - according to the espn article I linked as well as an AP news article - linked - the new touchback spot in the upcoming NFL season is the 30, not the 25 as you posted


https://apnews.com/article/nfl-kickoffs-hip-drop-explainer-70ab74a1247ff62ca96db75c3c21ffd7

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By ‘now’ I meant before the change. It was the 25 last year. It will be the 30 this year. It was never the 35 as you posted. I hope that clears it up for you.
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March 27th, 2024 at 11:33:32 AM permalink
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in the upcoming season the 𝑵𝑭𝑳 𝑯𝑨𝑺 𝑵𝑬𝑾 𝑲𝑰𝑪𝑲𝑶𝑭𝑭 𝑹𝑼𝑳𝑬𝑺 designed to reduce concussions due to high speed collisions - it's a modified version of the XFL kickoff rule

the kicker will still kick off from the 35 yard line but the other 10 members of the kickoff team will line up at the receiving team's 40 yard line

no one but the kicker and returners can move until the ball is caught or hits the ground

19 or 20 players will be standing still for a few seconds until the ball is caught or hits the ground

at least 9 members of the return team will be between the 35 and 30 yard lines in what is called the "setup zone"

the touchback spot is moved back from the 35 to the 30 yard line

they estimate that because of the changes 50 to 60% of kickoffs will be returned in 2024 compared to only 21% in 2023

teams have to declare their intention to do an onside kick which will remain in the traditional formation used up until this year



https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39813751/everything-know-nfl-hybrid-kickoff-rule-change


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The touchback spot is now the 25, not the 35. I love the rule. Watching a kicker just blast it into the end zone is not interesting. It will certainly introduce a new skill set needed by kickers.
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Couple more details:

Landing zone is from goal line to the 20.

Kicks that land short of the 20 are treated as a kick out of bounds.

Touchback from a kick that lands in the landing zone and then goes into the end zone is spotted on the 20.

Touchback from a kick that lands in the end zone is spotted on the 30 as said above.

Any kick through the back of the end zone is a touchback spotted on the 30 no matter where it first landed.
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March 30th, 2024 at 4:21:41 PM permalink
Anybody else watch that football game this afternoon? It was a great game. St. Louis scored with 40 seconds left to take the lead and then Michigan kicks a 64 yard field goal as time runs out to win the game.
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March 30th, 2024 at 4:30:31 PM permalink
The Cleveland Indians (I refuse to call them by that other name) are 3-0 and possibly on their sway to a perfect 162-0 record. A dynasty in the making.

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March 30th, 2024 at 4:42:15 PM permalink
WOW!!!

I hate to say it but Illinois is really choking

they've been outscored 30-0 since about 1 minute to go in the half

they've been shooting under 20% from the field

they have only 23 points with 13 minutes left in the game

Illinois was ranked 10th in the U.S. averaging 80 some p.p.g.

really incredible

edit - it took Illinois 15 minutes to finally score 2 points

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WOW!!!

I hate to say it but Illinois is really choking

they've been outscored 30-0 since about 1 minute to go in the half

they've been shooting under 20% from the field

they have only 23 points with 13 minutes left in the game

Illinois was ranked 10th in the U.S. averaging 80 some p.p.g.

really incredible

edit - it took Illinois 15 minutes to finally score 2 points

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Illinois scored 14 points total in the game in the 22 minutes when 7'2 shot blocker Donovan Clingan was on the floor! Donovan Castle, their other big NBA prospect, is also known more for his defense at this point.

We may have seen why Terrance Shannon Jr. is still playing in college while he'll turn 24 this summer instead of going pro a couple years ago. Seems like he bum hunts younger, less athletic players and, at least in this case, did not look good when playing against other definite NBA talent.
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March 31st, 2024 at 8:18:23 AM permalink
The highs, lows and terrible in-betweens of a compulsive sports gambler

David Leong had a hunch, but that’s how it is for most sports gamblers. Luck is mistaken for skill, and skill, it is believed, can make you a killing.

On a Saturday morning, Sept. 3, 2016, he and a friend flew to Vegas, scored an 8-ball of coke and checked into a suite at Bally’s. Leong had an $18,000 credit, and it was time to make it rain.

“There is no way USC can beat Alabama,” he remembered thinking as he visited two sportsbooks to spread the wager.

Kicked up with adrenaline and nerves, he didn’t touch the coke. A win would double his bet. A loss would … he pushed the thought away and settled in to watch the game.

The Crimson Tide was slow to score, but by halftime, they were up by two touchdowns. Still, Leong didn’t relax. Nothing’s ever a sure thing.

For almost 10 years, he had lived with these feelings: the highs, the lows and the terrible in-betweens of a compulsive sports gambler. And he knew he wasn’t alone.
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March 31st, 2024 at 1:51:00 PM permalink
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Purdue won and Edey was great and that's a big story but Tenn's Dalton Knecht with 37 had one of the greatest games I've ever seen in tourney play

the dude was on fire

another shocker - NC State/Duke - they haven't even totaled 50 points at the half - State has just 21 - it's choke city for both teams

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March 31st, 2024 at 3:58:22 PM permalink
Did you guys se that in the Golden Knights overtime victory against Minnesota the Knights got two points for the win and Minnesota got 0 points for the overtime loss.
That is the first time I ever remember that happening in hockey. I don't know when this rule went into effect but it is interesting.
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March 31st, 2024 at 4:28:48 PM permalink
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talk about winning ugly
the NC State/Duke game was the worst played tourney game I've ever seen
just horrible
Duke's Filipowski took a shot that actually went over the top of the backboard

hard to believe State is a Final 4 Team after that game

their D.J. Burns is a completely unique player
6'9" and 275 I don't believe he can jump 10 inches off the floor
but it doesn't matter - he uses that big body to bump and muscle his way in and then has a very soft shooting touch with his left hand
for the season he was well over .500 from the floor

other than Burns State seems to have nothing at all - based on my watching just this game

I would put the odds on State winning it all to be at least 40/1

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March 31st, 2024 at 6:17:34 PM permalink
Purdue beat Tennessee fair and square. Zach Edey is like Paul Bunyan or Harvey Comics' Stumbo the Giant.

- He led the game in points scored, in rebounds (by a very wide margin), probably in blocked shots and also in number of fouls drawn (fouls by the other team.) Also led in number of foul shots taken.

- I think that if Purdue and almost any other NCAA tourney team were to swap centers (so that Edey was on the other team) that Purdue goes down quickly in the tourney and the other team goes deep. Purdue is not a great team; it has a freakish great player that no one in the country can match up to.



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March 31st, 2024 at 6:40:35 PM permalink
Tennessee needed the refs to not call it by the book to have a chance. Pretty much all college teams just maul Edey, and just pray refs let enough of it go. Gonzaga's bigs kept hooking his arms when a shot would go up, which is just flat out dangerous and dirty basketball, shoulders have been separated or dislocated that way.

want to see Connecticut vs Purdue in the championship to see the big man matchup. Clingan is the better defender and fits more cleanly for the pro game, but certainly not the offensive skill of Edey. Doesn't really have a hook shot at all, 7'2 guy should really want to have that over either shoulder, while Edey's is very polished. How they perform against each other could certainly affect draft stock. Alabama vs Purdue would be a very interesting contrast of styles on the other hand. NC St. DJ Burns has a VERY quick spin move for as big and otherwise not fast he is.

Some fun big men in the final four, Bama just going to try to run, run, run and hope it works. Connecticut has the good thing/bad thing that they haven't really been tested at all yet late in a tourney game.
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Five games in the women’s sweet 16 and elite 8 were played on a court with an incorrect 3 point line on one end of the court. Absolutely unbelievable. The difference is not subtle, it’s plain to see by anyone. Four games were already in the books when a fan pointed out to officials.
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Five games in the women’s sweet 16 and elite 8 were played on a court with an incorrect 3 point line on one end of the court. Absolutely unbelievable. The difference is not subtle, it’s plain to see by anyone. Four games were already in the books when a fan pointed out to officials.

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great post
and that's really incredible that it hadn't been noticed up until yesterday
it's an unforgiveable goof
the Coaches yesterday were informed of it before the game but elected to play the game anyway

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-basketball/news/portland-3-point-line-ncaa-womens-tournament-march-madness/cc705783c7b4dfb7bd591008#:~:text=NCAA%20officials%20took%20to%20the,Schaefer%20said%20after%20the%20game.

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Five games in the women’s sweet 16 and elite 8 were played on a court with an incorrect 3 point line on one end of the court. Absolutely unbelievable. The difference is not subtle, it’s plain to see by anyone. Four games were already in the books when a fan pointed out to officials.

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great post
and that's really incredible that it hadn't been noticed up until yesterday
it's an unforgiveable goog
the Coaches yesterday were informed of it before the game but elected to play the game anyway

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-basketball/news/portland-3-point-line-ncaa-womens-tournament-march-madness/cc705783c7b4dfb7bd591008#:~:text=NCAA%20officials%20took%20to%20the,Schaefer%20said%20after%20the%20game.

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I am shocked. It should not require someone to notice it by eyeballing from above. March Madness courts are custom built and installed. The NCAA should inspect every court after installation. This should include inspecting for surface irregularities and it should include measuring the lines. Every one of them!
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Did you guys se that in the Golden Knights overtime victory against Minnesota the Knights got two points for the win and Minnesota got 0 points for the overtime loss.
That is the first time I ever remember that happening in hockey. I don't know when this rule went into effect but it is interesting.
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This must be a mistake. It has always been 2 pts for a win and 1 pt for a loss
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Did you guys se that in the Golden Knights overtime victory against Minnesota the Knights got two points for the win and Minnesota got 0 points for the overtime loss.
That is the first time I ever remember that happening in hockey. I don't know when this rule went into effect but it is interesting.
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This must be a mistake. It has always been 2 pts for a win and 1 pt for a loss
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No. there is actually a rule that if you pull your goalie in overtime and lose you get zero points. I don't know if that rule has been in since they started the 3 on 3 overtime but I had never seen it happen before.
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Quote: DRich

Did you guys se that in the Golden Knights overtime victory against Minnesota the Knights got two points for the win and Minnesota got 0 points for the overtime loss.
That is the first time I ever remember that happening in hockey. I don't know when this rule went into effect but it is interesting.
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This must be a mistake. It has always been 2 pts for a win and 1 pt for a loss
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No. there is actually a rule that if you pull your goalie in overtime and lose you get zero points. I don't know if that rule has been in since they started the 3 on 3 overtime but I had never seen it happen before.
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Good to know. Never heard of that rule.
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Both UConn men and women have made it to the final 4. Maybe both will win their respective championships. I don't think Purdue has any more wins in them after watching the last 2 games
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the NCAA is very unhappy about prop bets involving individual players
some players are being harassed if they underperform
and there is the chance of collusion and criminality if deals are made
some states have already banned prop bets on NCAA games

in 2007 the FBI found that NBA ref Tim Donaghy had been betting on games that he officiated
Donaghy was making bets with the Mob
there were allegations that 2 referees fixed an NBA playoff game
Donaghy went to prison
a book was written about this and it later became a movie

a look back at maybe the greatest NCAA Championship game - 1983
NC State's Derek Wittenburg took a shot and missed it badly - way short
but Lorenzo Charles saw it would be short and dunked it in to get the win by 2 points while Hakeem Olajuwon just stood by and watched
beating Houston - they called that Houston team "Phi Slamma Jamma"
Hakeem "The Dream" had a nightmare that night________:)
Hakeem went on to Hall of Fame greatness and Lo Charles just faded away
but nobody who ever saw that play he made will ever forget him

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Both UConn men and women have made it to the final 4. Maybe both will win their respective championships. I don't think Purdue has any more wins in them after watching the last 2 games
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I didn’t bet it ….. but you could have gotten 5-1 on that happening pre-tourney. I almost get it thinking South Carolina women were a lock and their men’s team had a chance….

As far as the hockey ‘no points if you pull your goalie and lose in OT rule’, that was put in when they established a tie breaker which rewarded an overtime win more than a shootout win.
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I talked down N.C. State but actually I would love to see them pull it off -
very improbable but it would be so exciting
they were only 9-11 in their own Conference and were 4-7 away and somehow made it to the Final 4
they've now won 9 in a row
maybe they can pull off some more magic and fell Edey the way they did Hakeem in the 80s
I wouldn't bet on them - but Wow - would I love to see it -

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Malachi Flynn, a scrub for the Pistons averaging 5 pts. per game came off the bench yesterday and in 34 minutes put up 50 points, 6 rebounds, 5 assists and 4 steals in a losing effort



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https://sports.yahoo.com/malachi-flynn-drops-out-of-nowhere-50-points-as-pistons-lose-to-hawks-020559542.html

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Anybody else been watching the United Football league? There have been some good games and I am enjoying it. I think it has a chance to make it.
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Anybody else been watching the United Football league? There have been some good games and I am enjoying it. I think it has a chance to make it.
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?????
I had no idea
I get all my sports news from Pardon the Interruption
They certainly aren't covering it
This is the 1st I've heard of this
Streaming anywhere?
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
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