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mcallister3200
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July 4th, 2024 at 9:14:46 AM permalink
Happy birthday Horace Grant. The overlooked third linchpin and enforcer for the Chicago Bulls first three-peat, replacing Charles Oakley. He could shoot, all nba defense selection, whatever needed to be done to support Michael and Scottie, he'd get it done. Known as much for his goggles as his play, wore prescription goggles, and after having lasik continued to wear non prescription goggles because of the feedback he received from parents and granparents.

On his decision to keep wearing the. "“The first couple years, they were prescription goggles. I had grandmothers, grandfathers, mothers and dads coming up to me, letting me know that it inspired their grandkids and kids to wear goggles or glasses. A lot of kids would get bullied for wearing glasses and goggles, so I guess I made it pretty cool to wear them. So then I just continued to wear them without the prescription in it,”

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July 9th, 2024 at 4:34:28 AM permalink
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a dangerous kind of extreme fighting - Power Slap - has become popular in Las Vegas

"competitors are not allowed to defend themselves which means they can be struck on the head multiple times in the same place in one fight"

the sport is under attack from Doctors at the Brain Injury Association of America - see link

I'm on the side of the Doctors - this is just too, too much - how far will people stray into extremely dangerous territory for the sake of cheap entertainment_____?

to me it's really kinna sad that sports promoters, fans, and participants could sink to this low of a level

and that those responsible for deciding and regulating what is and is not legal in sports would be so lax as to allow this


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July 10th, 2024 at 3:45:46 AM permalink
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a dangerous kind of extreme fighting - Power Slap - has become popular in Las Vegas

"competitors are not allowed to defend themselves which means they can be struck on the head multiple times in the same place in one fight"

the sport is under attack from Doctors at the Brain Injury Association of America - see link

I'm on the side of the Doctors - this is just too, too much - how far will people stray into extremely dangerous territory for the sake of cheap entertainment_____?

to me it's really kinna sad that sports promoters, fans, and participants could sink to this low of a level

and that those responsible for deciding and regulating what is and is not legal in sports would be so lax as to allow this


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Consenting adults. It’s not like the risks are hidden from the participants.

You want to cancel the most dangerous college sport? Then no more cheerleading.
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July 10th, 2024 at 4:09:58 AM permalink
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Consenting adults. It’s not like the risks are hidden from the participants.


I must say that am quite surprised that you, a Doctor, would have that point of view

I guess you must feel that the Doctors coming out against it are fools

how about a fight until death _____?- the one who doesn't die gets $5 million - I'm sure there would be lots of fans and willing participants and promoters

would that be just okay with you_______?

I might consent to shoot up heroin - should the Government allow me to do it because I'm an adult and I know the risks_________?

that is the purpose of Government - the idea is that the collective judgement of elected persons contains a wisdom greater than the idea of one individual who might be willing to do just about anything

it doesn't always work well but we don't have a better system

and this is where I strongly believe Government should step in and ban this monstrosity

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July 10th, 2024 at 7:11:25 AM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

Quote: SOOPOO

Consenting adults. It’s not like the risks are hidden from the participants.


I must say that am quite surprised that you, a Doctor, would have that point of view

I guess you must feel that the Doctors coming out against it are fools

how about a fight until death _____?- the one who doesn't die gets $5 million - I'm sure there would be lots of fans and willing participants and promoters

would that be just okay with you_______?

I might consent to shoot up heroin - should the Government allow me to do it because I'm an adult and I know the risks_________?

that is the purpose of Government - the idea is that the collective judgement of elected persons contains a wisdom greater than the idea of one individual who might be willing to do just about anything

it doesn't always work well but we don't have a better system

and this is where I strongly believe Government should step in and ban this monstrosity

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I’ll tackle this one thought at a time.

I don’t think ‘Doctors coming out against this’ are fools. You may not understand this, but just because someone has a different opinion on a topic than I do does not automatically make them a fool.

As far as ‘fight to the death’, I generally want government stopping me from doing things as little as possible. I think that may be one example that crosses the line so I’d probably be for its ban. The defined endpoint of death is different from ‘possible’ injuries in the slapping example.

As far as ‘heroin’, I am generally against illegal drugs being illegal. You must know alcohol and cigarettes kill far more than heroin ever will. But I’m not for their ban.

I think my take on what ‘government’ is supposed to do is different from yours. I want government to protect me from others, not to protect me from myself. If I’m a burly beast barely scraping by and can make $$$$$$ by slapping and being slapped, let ME decide if it’s worth it.
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July 10th, 2024 at 8:48:32 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Quote: lilredrooster

Quote: SOOPOO

Consenting adults. It’s not like the risks are hidden from the participants.


I must say that am quite surprised that you, a Doctor, would have that point of view

I guess you must feel that the Doctors coming out against it are fools

how about a fight until death _____?- the one who doesn't die gets $5 million - I'm sure there would be lots of fans and willing participants and promoters

would that be just okay with you_______?

I might consent to shoot up heroin - should the Government allow me to do it because I'm an adult and I know the risks_________?

that is the purpose of Government - the idea is that the collective judgement of elected persons contains a wisdom greater than the idea of one individual who might be willing to do just about anything

it doesn't always work well but we don't have a better system

and this is where I strongly believe Government should step in and ban this monstrosity

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I’ll tackle this one thought at a time.

I don’t think ‘Doctors coming out against this’ are fools. You may not understand this, but just because someone has a different opinion on a topic than I do does not automatically make them a fool.

As far as ‘fight to the death’, I generally want government stopping me from doing things as little as possible. I think that may be one example that crosses the line so I’d probably be for its ban. The defined endpoint of death is different from ‘possible’ injuries in the slapping example.

As far as ‘heroin’, I am generally against illegal drugs being illegal. You must know alcohol and cigarettes kill far more than heroin ever will. But I’m not for their ban.

I think my take on what ‘government’ is supposed to do is different from yours. I want government to protect me from others, not to protect me from myself. If I’m a burly beast barely scraping by and can make $$$$$$ by slapping and being slapped, let ME decide if it’s worth it.
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Are you OK with a duel?
2 pistols at a distance
What's the difference?
Yea you can survive a gun wound. Can totally heal sometimes
You can not recover from CTE. Once you get it, that's it. No healing from that. Worse then a gun wound. Much worse.
A brain is a terrible thing to waste
It's essential to being a human being
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
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July 10th, 2024 at 9:07:37 AM permalink
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terapined in the above post is right about the need to protect the human brain

there are all kinds of other examples that are ridiculous to me just as this so called "sport" is ridiculous to me
you could have a version of baseball where the pitcher tries to hit somebody in the batters box in the head
the guy in the batters box is not wearing a helmet - but has protection on all other parts of his body
if the pitcher hits the guy in the head he win $10K
if the batter successfully avoids being hit in the head he wins $10K

as far as I can tell by Dr. Soopoo's standards that would be 100% okay

there is a point where the risk is so high of serious injury as in "Power Slap" that it just has to be stopped

if people wanted to do this in private and have betting on it I would be less opposed

but to have it sanctioned as a legal business - no way -

we live in an "in your face" kind of society - everybody is pushing boundaries -

there needs to be people in authority willing to step up and say "this is not okay"

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July 10th, 2024 at 9:52:13 AM permalink
I blame the TV show, How I Met Your Mother and the slap bet!

Not to do with the show:
Concerned citizen: You need to put an end to this new “sport”, Slap Fight!
Government official: Not right now. Can’t you see we’re gearing up for an important election? Some of us have put money on the line!
It’s a dog eat dog world. …Or maybe it’s the other way around!
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July 10th, 2024 at 11:23:51 AM permalink
The USA men's basketball team scrimmaged against the USA Select team yesterday, but all the talk is about 17 year old Cooper Flagg out of Montverde Academy, largely expected to be the #1 pick in the 2025 NBA draft. The Olympic team only beat select by 1, 74-73 in the scrimmage.

Only three amateur players have been selected to USA Select in history now, and the other two were already first team collegiate all americans. It's otherwise all younger NBA players. He re-classified to graduate high school early and committed to Duke, one NBA coach said he thought Flagg was Select's best player yesterday. Some highlights.

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July 10th, 2024 at 12:40:19 PM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

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terapined in the above post is right about the need to protect the human brain

there are all kinds of other examples that are ridiculous to me just as this so called "sport" is ridiculous to me
you could have a version of baseball where the pitcher tries to hit somebody in the batters box in the head
the guy in the batters box is not wearing a helmet - but has protection on all other parts of his body
if the pitcher hits the guy in the head he win $10K
if the batter successfully avoids being hit in the head he wins $10K

as far as I can tell by Dr. Soopoo's standards that would be 100% okay

there is a point where the risk is so high of serious injury as in "Power Slap" that it just has to be stopped

if people wanted to do this in private and have betting on it I would be less opposed

but to have it sanctioned as a legal business - no way -

we live in an "in your face" kind of society - everybody is pushing boundaries -

there needs to be people in authority willing to step up and say "this is not okay"

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In general I want to let consenting adults do what they want as long as I am at no risk.
Drunk driving? Put ‘em in jail.
Business poisoning water supply? Shut it down.
Two guys want to slap each other, or box against each other, or play pro football, or kickbox, or MMA, or free climb ridiculous cliffs, or drag race at over 300mph, etc….. let them.

By the way, I understand your point. And don’t dismiss it out of hand. I just disagree.
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July 10th, 2024 at 1:57:48 PM permalink
I wonder if any of you basketball fans/buffs have watched the National Gymnastics Trials (Mens/Womens)? For me, the skills necessary to participate in basketball are elementary, simple, and uncomplicated. Those "skills include running, jumping, dribbling, passing, and shooting. I am quite confident that any of you here could actually "perform" any or all of those activities.

Gymnastics includes 6 events, and all are different from each other. Any one of those disciplines require more athletic skill than all of basketball combined. So that while most all of you here could perform the above mentioned BB skills, you would be hard pressed to "perform" even the most introductory gymnastics skills such as a handstand, roundoff, back handspring, back flip, or kip, or dislocate (still rings), giant swing (horizontal bar), and the like let alone doing more advanced stuff like a double twisting double back flip on floor and sticking it. (rotating around two axes simultaneously)

I encourage you to take some time and watch those athletes and their routines. Some of the stuff they do is insane. BTW Simone Biles is 4'8" tall and during one of her floor routines (tumbling) reached a height of 12' off the floor. Which means if she could figure out how to carry a BB while tumbling, she could easily slam dunk it at a regulation 10 foot hoop.

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July 10th, 2024 at 3:23:19 PM permalink
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I wonder if any of you basketball fans/buffs have watched the National Gymnastics Trials (Mens/Womens)? .......

I encourage you to take some time and watch those athletes and their routines. Some of the stuff they do is insane. BTW Simone Biles is 4'8" tall and during one of her floor routines (tumbling) reached a height of 12' off the floor. Which means if she could figure out how to carry a BB while tumbling, she could easily slam dunk it at a regulation 10 foot hoop.

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I will certainly watch the actual olympics and always do for gymnastics, they are incredible world class athletes to be sure.

But you can't possibly think a spring-loaded floor and a hardwood floor are close to the same thing. I challenge you to find video evidence of any woman ever 5'8 or under, a foot taller than her, dunking on a regulation hoop jumping only off a hardwood floor. All sorts of mascots can easily dunk when they jump off trampolines though.
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July 11th, 2024 at 11:12:25 AM permalink
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I challenge you to find video evidence of any woman ever 5'8 or under, a foot taller than her, dunking on a regulation hoop jumping only off a hardwood floor.


well, I couldn't meet your challenge
but I came close
the link is a YT "short" of a 5'6" girl who came so close but just didn't quite make it

the 2nd link is even more insane - 8th grade boys - 13 year olds - all kinds of dunks - just incredible

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UCxsMDeaM_E

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July 11th, 2024 at 5:55:33 PM permalink
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A brain is a terrible thing to waste




Sadly, the majority of the population is wasting theirs
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
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July 13th, 2024 at 4:52:36 AM permalink
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from the article:

"before and after his Las Vegas summer league debut Bronny James was the star. During the game was another matter entirely - James game doesn't yet match his fame"

his image is on billboards in LV promoting the NBA summer league action

last night he was 0 for 8 on his threes - he finished with 8 points on 3 for 14 shooting
through 3 games he is averaging 5 points on 38.5% shooting


https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2024/07/13/bronny-james-summer-league/

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