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Nike is taking a lot of heat
this is really a freaky thing - I've never heard of anything like this before
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/02/21/nike-takes-beating-after-zion-williamsons-shoe-explodes/?utm_term=.5e25d1e90b85
except for the ones who were All Stars they hadn't played in a real game for almost a week
it sounded to me like a good angle - like something like that might not be totally factored into the odds - I never thought of that angle before
so, anyway I checked and on the first day back which is 2-21:
it doesn't prove anything but on this day the unders went 5-1
not only that but every single under that won won by double digits - and 2 of them won by about 20 points
Quote: lilredrooster
it doesn't prove anything but on this day the unders went 5-1
not only that but every single under that won won by double digits - and 2 of them won by about 20 points
I would guess that blowouts tend to be correlated with the under.
the article doesn't specify why but probably because he still wants to party, party, party and it showed up in his urinalysis
he's hoping for yet another chance in the XFL which debuts next February
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/27/sports/football/johnny-manziel-cfl-.html
Also they are 49-15 to the over this season on the first period 1.5 goal O/U
maybe the Greek Freak is better than both of them
this season he has about the same p.p.g. as LBJ, way more rebounds per game, a couple less assists per game, and way, way more blocked shots
it's truly amazing to me that in recent years they have come to be a power in college basketball
until that happened I had never even heard of them - I only knew of Gonzaga high school near me
Quote: lilredroosterGonzaga, 29-2, is now ranked #1 in the AP NCAAB standings
it's truly amazing to me that in recent years they have come to be a power in college basketball
until that happened I had never even heard of them - I only knew of Gonzaga high school near me
Honestly, it's not recent. They've been good for at least 20 years. They just haven't gotten the attention people like Duke or UNC or Kentucky get.
The link below shows how many times (weeks) in the last 20 years they've been ranked in the top 25. It's about 250 times.
Before that, I lived in Washington State for 8 years in the 80s and 90s. They were good then, too.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/gonzaga/polls.html
Quote: lilredroosterGonzaga, 29-2, is now ranked #1 in the AP NCAAB standings
it's truly amazing to me that in recent years they have come to be a power in college basketball
until that happened I had never even heard of them - I only knew of Gonzaga high school near me
The PAC 10 has been an awful conference recently , even worse than usual this year. This has made recruiting the big time west coast players much better for Mark Few. The zags have been able to scoop up some players who might have otherwise gone to schools like UCLA or Arizona
Quote: beachbumbabsHonestly, it's not recent. They've been good for at least 20 years. They just haven't gotten the attention people like Duke or UNC or Kentucky get.
The link below shows how many times (weeks) in the last 20 years they've been ranked in the top 25. It's about 250 times.
Before that, I lived in Washington State for 8 years in the 80s and 90s. They were good then, too.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/gonzaga/polls.html
It has to be related to the unusual name and so few people ever hearing of the school in general. For a decade, they were on the top 16 bubble and every year they were treated like upstarts. I didn't know they were in Washington, I just knew they were out west somewhere.
Quote: GWAEWTF is Antonio Brown's problem. He seemed to be somewhat normal his first few years.
The problem is he has played the Steelers like a fiddle. The Steelers get peanuts (3rd and 5th), and get a $22 million cap hit this year for him NOT to play for them! He has already cashed his large signing bonus from the Steelers, and he must have gotten another large signing bonus from the Raiders! The problem is that Brown used the stupid signing bonus rules as a way for him to make more money than if he had just played out his contract with the Steelers.
I'll bet $1 that the Browns have as many or more wins than the Steelers this year.
Quote: SOOPOO
I'll bet $1 that the Browns have as many or more wins than the Steelers this year.
Wager accepted. Please confirm.
Quote: SOOPOOThe problem is he has played the Steelers like a fiddle. The Steelers get peanuts (3rd and 5th), and get a $22 million cap hit this year for him NOT to play for them! He has already cashed his large signing bonus from the Steelers, and he must have gotten another large signing bonus from the Raiders! The problem is that Brown used the stupid signing bonus rules as a way for him to make more money than if he had just played out his contract with the Steelers.
I'll bet $1 that the Browns have as many or more wins than the Steelers this year.
I kinda agree with you. We have betting in PA now. I will be betting the under for wins. May be Roethlisbergers first losing season.
Reports are that he is getting another 20 mil in signing bonus from the raiders. He really did snap with his fame. Between driving over 100 on a business road to throwing furniture out his apartment on a high floor, to pushing his baby mama all in under a year.
Only positive in this is that we should have some serious good reports when he plays in Vegas.
I still wish they would have just pushed back and said F U and let him stay on team and bench him. I think the cap hit would be less if he was sitting on the bench.
NBA has gotten very unpredictable recently
Quote: kgb92How much do you make betting blind against the Lakers this season?
They are 26-38-2 this season ATS.
so a $100/game bettor would be up about $940 betting at -110 juice each game
By the way, there is only one team worse than the Lakers this season ATS. And that’s the golden state warriors. Currently 26-39-1
Manute was one dimensional and pretty awkward
well, he has a 7'3" son, Bol Bol, who is much better than his dad
he's very agile and is averaging 21 p.p.g. as a freshman for the Oregon Ducks
he even shoots 3 pointers at a clip of 52%
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sports-betting-the-basics-60-minutes/
I like this decision. I just wish the refs could make their final determination a lot quicker.
they're way too slow - so boring waiting for them
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nfl-agrees-to-allow-challenges-on-pass-interference-plays-whether-or-not-a-flag-is-thrown
Quote: lilredroosterremember Manute Bol the 7'6" shot blocker for the Wizards in the 80s and 90s?
Manute was one dimensional and pretty awkward
well, he has a 7'3" son, Bol Bol, who is much better than his dad
he's very agile and is averaging 21 p.p.g. as a freshman for the Oregon Ducks
he even shoots 3 pointers at a clip of 52%
For the record, he was hurt 9 games in, and hasn't played since middle of December. Those stats were accrued out of conference against many mid major squads like Texas Southern, Portland State, Eastern Washington, etc....
Quote: lilredroosterthe NFL has decided to allow challenges to pass interference even if no flag is thrown.
I like this decision. I just wish the refs could make their final determination a lot quicker.
they're way too slow - so boring waiting for them
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nfl-agrees-to-allow-challenges-on-pass-interference-plays-whether-or-not-a-flag-is-thrown
originally they were talking about having it challenged only when there was a flag. That was making no sense to me.
I am all for certain penalties being called from the booth. I said they should have a 3 person team. On all plays they hit a button, penalty or no penalty. If there are 2 that push penalty then there is a flag thrown. It would all have to be done immediately just like it would be on the field. Seems to me that is a simple solution.
Quote: GWAEoriginally they were talking about having it challenged only when there was a flag. That was making no sense to me.
I am all for certain penalties being called from the booth. I said they should have a 3 person team. On all plays they hit a button, penalty or no penalty. If there are 2 that push penalty then there is a flag thrown. It would all have to be done immediately just like it would be on the field. Seems to me that is a simple solution.
I'm sure this is a specific response to the non-call.that decided the Saints playoff game, but I'm not sure I'm in favor of it. Seems like it will lead to a lot of lobbying and more delays for replays. I guess the rule only allowing 3 challenges per game might put the brakes on that, but I can't think of a game I saw that didn't have 6-8 non-calls (IMO of course). So games already over 3.5 hours will stretch routinely to 4 or more. Ugh.
pretty cool to see the chalk get knocked out
But Gonzaga got a bit robbed in the last couple minutes. The guy who recovered the rebound while out of bounds. Missed call. And the inadvertent contact turned into a flagrant 1 was overkill. Between them, those calls decided the game, especially the first one. And without the first wrong call, the second situation doesn't happen.
Quote: beachbumbabsBut Gonzaga got a bit robbed in the last couple minutes.
I argue with folks all the time about that type of thing--yes there may have been bad calls at the end of the game but reality is that there are some missed all game long that also could have made the ending look different.
Quote: beachbumbabsThe guy who recovered the rebound while out of bounds. Missed call.
Yes, they were all looking somewhere else and missed it.
Quote: beachbumbabsAnd the inadvertent contact turned into a flagrant 1 was overkill. Between them, those calls decided the game, especially the first one. And without the first wrong call, the second situation doesn't happen.
"By rule, if he has possession of the ball and it does not break the plane, thus putting the ball on the inside of the court, and it is contacted, that is a technical foul."
--Gene Steratore
My position is that there will always be some issues with officiating; there are no perfect human beings. You have to do enough to win the game in spite of any missed calls. They are part of the game. The officials wish they could be perfect...they want to do well...but they are human.
I was happy with one result (Texas Tech) and was hoping the other game would go the other way...
Quote: beachbumbabs
But Gonzaga got a bit robbed in the last couple minutes. The guy who recovered the rebound while out of bounds. Missed call. And the inadvertent contact turned into a flagrant 1 was overkill.
What would you have had them call on the flagrant 1, just pretend it didn’t happen? It was blatantly obvious and clearly impacted the inbounders ability to pass, there is not a regular foul that falls under by definition contact with an inbounder is flagrant, and it was directly in front of officials.
Quote: mcallister3200What would you have had them call on the flagrant 1, just pretend it didn’t happen? It was blatantly obvious and clearly impacted the inbounders ability to pass, there is not a regular foul that falls under by definition contact with an inbounder is flagrant, and it was directly in front of officials.
The commentators seemed to think there was some discretion in what they called. (I don't claim to be an expert.) Either a simple technical foul, which I thought would be 1 shot from the in bounding player, or a flagrant 1, which was 2 shots from the team's choice of shooter. They went with the harsher penalty in a 1 point game, with incidental contact that didn't change possession or take any time.off the clock. They had to review it to see whether he even touched the player, rather than the ball (or nothing), and whether the inbounder broke the plane of the inbounds. So it seemed to be overkill to me.
usually because of a bad call at the end of the game
there were probably bad calls that went against their opponents at other points in the game
but the main thing is if you lost and there was a bad call at the end of the game that people are saying caused it:
𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐭𝐞𝐚𝐦 𝐜𝐢𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐛𝐚𝐝 𝐜𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐝𝐢𝐝𝐧'𝐭 𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐥𝐥𝐲 𝐛𝐞𝐚𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐨𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐭𝐞𝐚𝐦
by beating I mean being far enough ahead at the end so that one call at the end, which basically is a matter of luck cannot decide the game
but yes, I understand how it can be really frustrating
Quote: beachbumbabsSo games already over 3.5 hours will stretch routinely to 4 or more. Ugh.
Google says average NFL game is 3.2 hours. Length of a game is never the problem in sports. The problem is the pacing of the game, where there is too much downtime without action or tension. Video review could be a lot better if it was all done by an official off the field instead of having one of the on-the-field refs stick their head under the hood. The play could already be under review before a challenge flag is even thrown.
Quote: beachbumbabsThe commentators seemed to think there was some discretion in what they called. (I don't claim to be an expert.) Either a simple technical foul, which I thought would be 1 shot from the in bounding player, or a flagrant 1, which was 2 shots from the team's choice of shooter. They went with the harsher penalty in a 1 point game, with incidental contact that didn't change possession or take any time.off the clock. They had to review it to see whether he even touched the player, rather than the ball (or nothing), and whether the inbounder broke the plane of the inbounds. So it seemed to be overkill to me.
According to the NCAA men's basketball rule book, "contact with a player making a throw-in" is an automatic Flagrant 1. In other words, it's two shots and the ball if he touched the player, or one and the ball if he touched just the ball; that's probably why they reviewed it (and determining whether or not a Flagrant 1 occurred is something that can be reviewed). There is no "discretion" in the decision.
Note that, up through the 2015 season, it was always two free throws and the ball, even if only the ball was touched and not the player.
Auburn just upset Kentucky
first time in the final 4 for them too
Quote: beachbumbabs3 1/2 great games so far this weekend. Mich St over Duke by 4 at the half.
Yes! Duke goes down. Ive been soooo sick of hearing about Duke, Zion, and Jay Bilas for at least three months now.
Quote: mcallister3200Yes! Duke goes down. Ive been soooo sick of hearing about Duke, Zion, and Jay Bilas for at least three months now.
Me too. I agree that Zion has an unusual combination of elite skills but Duke and the entire ACC has been over-rated all season.
in the last 10 games T.T. has gone over 132.5 total 7 times - Michigan 5 times
in the last 10 games Auburn has gone over 131 total 8 times - Virginia 5 times
I'm pretty sure Joe Frazier was the only other guy who ever knocked Ali down
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/06/nyregion/rocky-chuck-wepner-muhammad-ali.html?action=click&module=Well&pgtype=Homepage§ion=New%20York
lets get it
Quote: djatcVirginia -1 EV
lets get it
I really like that side too. Sadly, I want to root for texas tech so I don't know if I will actually bet it. It is no fun to root against your own bet.
Quote: unJonWager accepted. Please confirm.
Confirmed. I will let you remember we made this bet because I doubt I will!
I will put this up there with sports are fixed.
911 NY wins
Katrina NO wins
16 loses to 1, then wins
Many more of those odities
I have no memory of it right now even!! Don’t really want to re read last few pages to find out. -EV all around.Quote: SOOPOOConfirmed. I will let you remember we made this bet because I doubt I will!
ETA: found it. I’m very unlikely to remember also. Vegas likes your side of it.
White hot start
going for 10th win right now, 8-0, top of the 9nth. only 3 losses
Quote: terapinedHow about them Rays
White hot start
going for 10th win right now, 8-0, top of the 9nth. only 3 losses
I love seeing anyone except boston and yanks on top
Quote: GWAEI love seeing anyone except boston and yanks on top
Mariners have the best record, who saw that coming :-)
I hope Tampa and Seattle can keep it up to make this a fun season
Got my fingers crossed
Quote: mcallister3200On the flip side, how bout that Chris Davis? 0-49 dating back to last season a record, hit .168 last year with 16 home runs about 1/3 the HR’s of his peak seasons and has a guaranteed contract through 2022 with over 90 million yet to be paid. What a mess.
I saw a funny joke today about him. Gonna ruin it because it needs a photo I don't have.
Baltimore is putting big pictures of Chris Davis on all their city buses - it will keep them from getting hit.
I'll let you know in a few weeks if I'm jumping on the Padres bandwagon, but it's certainly possible.
If thecesspit is lurking - Neenerneener =p
If buzz is socking we will find out in 3....2....1....
