Preakness and Belmont.
Edit 5 hours later: The extreme irrationality and negative expectation of Cc has sunk in so might think twice. We'll see. Still thinking 3XX or 3XXX but because I can't ever see the difference of horses any more than red and black.
Notice I said if forced to. Don't see any real value in the race.
Quote: onenickelmiracleHow do you know odds on exacta trifectas super etc? Just wondering for links I can't find them.
if you're betting with the track or any simulcast facility, odds are parimutual and won't be finalized till the race is over. You can generally estimate exotics odds based on the handicapper's morning line, but you won't be able to see the final payouts until the race ends.
Are they just based on single track bets or all of them together?Quote: sodawaterif you're betting with the track or any simulcast facility, odds are parimutual and won't be finalized till the race is over. You can generally estimate exotics odds based on the handicapper's morning line, but you won't be able to see the final payouts until the race ends.
Quote: onenickelmiracleAre they just based on single track bets or all of them together?
they're all linked together
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Quote: BuzzardI will probably take a 7/4 $10 Exacta. First chance to bet my new age. And my IQ all at once.
I love it Buzz
Chrome's gate issues haven't just gone away. He misses break and runs off board.
$100 across the board on the 3.
$50 show on the 5.
On to the Triple Crown!
Quote: PBguyLooked like that was about a perfect ride on CC.
On to the Triple Crown!
I don't agree trip wise. He sat beautifully but I think Espinoza moved sooner than what he would have liked imo. Still, a great win.
He will surely be hot favorite for Belmont and who would begrudge him a win there right?
I will try and beat him there but not because I don't believe in the fairy tale just because I don't think he will be value and there are a many great different things against his bid there.
There will be huge opportunities but I will be ecstatic if he wins!
$6.1 mil for 51%, yeah right :)
Quote: PBguyOn to the Triple Crown!
I wonder if anybody is going to buy hordes of $2 tickets on CC to win just to sell as souvenirs in case he does win. That will certainly drive up the prices on the rest of the field.
Personally, I didn't see anything in his Preakness run that makes me wants to change my thought after his Derby run - I don't think he has the mile and a half in him he needs to beat the distance specialists.
(And NBC's announcer just said that the DAP colors will be on the Pimlico weathervane "for the next year"; I for one would like to see a guarantee that Pimlico is still going to be there next May.)
Very good horse, but not great. He loses in 3 weeks.
Quote: HowManyCC doesn't have the feel of a Triple Crown winner.
Very good horse, but not great. He loses in 3 weeks.
I was wondering, what does a TC winner feel like? Soft and squishy? :)
Quote: TomspurI was wondering, what does a TC winner feel like? Soft and squishy? :)
Big Brown "felt" like a TC winner. And that didn't work out.
I bet $75 WP on CC. $20 Ex 3-10. $2 Ex 3-2,7,10. $5 Tri 3-10-2. $1 Tri 3-10-2,7,8. $1 Tri 3-10,2-2,7,8,10. I got a few bucks on CC to place. Total bet $220. Total return $566.85. Great profit and VALUE in 2 minutes. If 2 got the show finish, I would have made an extra $2-300 on the tri. Now waiting for the Belmont.Quote: speedycrapTri:3-10-7,2. Ex:3-10,2
8 horse was good but not Derby type. Maiden winner moving up against Gr 1 winner was just way, way over his head. If not for 8 horse, CC would be 1-5.
I got killed. Lost about $2k.
Quote: TomspurI don't agree trip wise. He sat beautifully but I think Espinoza moved sooner than what he would have liked imo. Still, a great win.
He will surely be hot favorite for Belmont and who would begrudge him a win there right?
I will try and beat him there but not because I don't believe in the fairy tale just because I don't think he will be value and there are a many great different things against his bid there.
There will be huge opportunities but I will be ecstatic if he wins!
$6.1 mil for 51%, yeah right :)
Espinoza had to move early as not to give his position away to the 8 that moved early. Never give position away that late in race. Jock gave Chrome a perfect ride.
6.1 million for 51% was very fair offer. I'm not going to waste energy trying to explain why......it doesn't matter.
So how much is CC worth NOW. And also after Belmont? Winning? Losing????Quote: treetopbuddyEspinoza had to move early as not to give his position away to the 8 that moved early. Never give position away that late in race. Jock gave Chrome a perfect ride.
6.1 million for 51% was very fair offer. I'm not going to waste energy trying to explain why......it doesn't matter.
Was down overall because I missed 3rd leg of pick-4.
I don't see CC winning the Belmont. Actually I could see him off the board. Hope I'm wrong.
(I have a $2 derby win bet and Preakness. I'll get Belmont in 3 weeks)
I, for one, do not see him getting the distance in the Belmont.
Quote: speedycrapI DON'T think 8 will hit the board at all. No class and has to go for the lead. Will last at most at the top of the stretch.
whoops
Almost got it right.Quote: JW17whoops
Quote: speedycrapSo how much is CC worth NOW. And also after Belmont? Winning? Losing????
Chrome's value really didn't change after the Preakness win. His value would not significantly change if he were to win the Belmont. He has proven that he is a fast horse and the best of the three year old crop thus far. He could go on and win several more million racing but when he steps up into open company it's a different ball game. Beating older horses is no easy feat.
Chrome's pedigree could easily have him running in the worst races in the country instead of the best. His value at this point is pinned to his pedigree which is modest at best. Few three year old classic winners have gone on to be great producers. Breeders will give him a try but not to their best mares. Top breeders will breed to horses like Will Take Charge.....a top class horse with classic pedigree who was still maturing as he went through the triple crown series. Will Take Charge's value is probably doubled that of Chrome's.
I'dI love to see Chrome win the Belmont. The owners are lucky buffoons. They are the Inspector Clouseau's of horse racing.
Quote: treetopbuddyChrome's value really didn't change after the Preakness win. His value would not significantly change if he were to win the Belmont. He has proven that he is a fast horse and the best of the three year old crop thus far. He could go on and win several more million racing but when he steps up into open company it's a different ball game. Beating older horses is no easy feat.
Chrome's pedigree could easily have him running in the worst races in the country instead of the best. His value at this point is pinned to his pedigree which is modest at best. Few three year old classic winners have gone on to be great producers. Breeders will give him a try but not to their best mares. Top breeders will breed to horses like Will Take Charge.....a top class horse with classic pedigree who was still maturing as he went through the triple crown series. Will Take Charge's value is probably doubled that of Chrome's.
I'dI love to see Chrome win the Belmont. The owners are lucky buffoons. They are the Inspector Clouseau's of horse racing.
Just curious for the $ figure
I think he has a decent shot at winning the Belmont based on his performances over the last 5 races. The question, of course, is whether he can really handle the distance.
Having CC run the Belmont is too valuable for NYRA to let him sit out over a minor issue.
Running for the Triple Crown is too valuable for CC's owners to let him sit out over a minor issue.
This will not be an issue for CC to run in the Belmont. Right now they're just "negotiating in public" over this silly issue.
Quote: BuzzardNever a bad idea to build that excuse, you know, just in case !
Exactly - a built-in excuse when CC does not get the distance. I'm rooting for NYRA on this one. What if the next TC contender uses a drug banned in NY - do they get an exception too?
More details later. I rarely tout but General a Rod should be an overlay in the Belmont.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0tqMg6Bwt8
Quote: aceofspadesExactly - a built-in excuse when CC does not get the distance. I'm rooting for NYRA on this one. What if the next TC contender uses a drug banned in NY - do they get an exception too?
The trainers are WAYYYYYYYY ahead of the testers in horse racing .... if you think any of these animals are running on hay and oats you must had bumped your head a few too many times over the years
Quote: coilmanThe trainers are WAYYYYYYYY ahead of the testers in horse racing .... if you think any of these animals are running on hay and oats you must had bumped your head a few too many times over the years
Yeah - I "must had"
http://www.upi.com/Sports_News/2014/02/14/Top-quarter-horse-trainer-suspended-for-16-years/UPI-37181392438643/
