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July 2nd, 2026 at 7:12:28 AM permalink
This site was born on Nov. 9, 2009, when I was still young at 44.

Now, at 61, I'm finally stepping down as the Wizard. You might say you thought I already did that in December. After traveling for four months, I came back somewhat. However, in agreement with the new owners, I will be stepping down completely. The about us page at WoO has already been updated to reflect this.

Here at WoV, I have asked Miro (our technical Wizard) to demote me as a moderator. I may or may not become a secret moderator. I do plan to still contribute to the Wordle and Easy Math Puzzles threads and maybe others as they interest me. However, I feel I've said everything I have to say about gambling and ready to devote my time and curiosity to new interests. I leave the active moderation in the capable hands of Dieter and Gordon, for whom I thank greatly for their time and effort.

I'd like to thank everyone who contributed here with quality posts about the mathematics of gambling and helped to make each other better gamblers. In addition to the current moderators, I also thank past moderators who did a tour of duty and moved on.
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July 2nd, 2026 at 7:36:20 AM permalink
Thank You.
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July 2nd, 2026 at 7:54:34 AM permalink
Joey?
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people. https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
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July 2nd, 2026 at 8:29:25 AM permalink
I wish I was 61 again
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July 2nd, 2026 at 9:21:43 AM permalink
Toda raba Mr. Shackleford,

I am sure you will go down in the history books as one of the greatest casino mathematicians of all time. Your life's work in this field is an inspiration for me as well as the rest of the arithmetically-inclined gamblers, casino mathematicians, and game inventors.

Thanks to the moderators too for maintaining the forum despite the influx of spam and negativity.

Good luck with your new passions and endeavors.

Will it be possible for me to submit analyses of new table games to this website in the future? I don't know about y'all but I completely refuse to play any table game in real life until I know the exact optimal strategy.
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July 2nd, 2026 at 10:52:12 AM permalink
Quote: harris

Toda raba Mr. Shackleford,

I am sure you will go down in the history books as one of the greatest casino mathematicians of all time. Your life's work in this field is an inspiration for me as well as the rest of the arithmetically-inclined gamblers, casino mathematicians, and game inventors.



Bebaska! I appreciate your quality contributions to the forum.

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Will it be possible for me to submit analyses of new table games to this website in the future? I don't know about y'all but I completely refuse to play any table game in real life until I know the exact optimal strategy.
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I'm sure there will be. I will certainly suggest there be a clear way to submit a new game for addition to the site. It may be that we request a math report, unless the math is quite easy. My last new page created will probably be this one for Breakout Blackjack.
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July 2nd, 2026 at 11:40:01 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

This site was born on Nov. 9, 2009, when I was still young at 44.

Now, at 61, I'm finally stepping down as the Wizard. You might say you thought I already did that in December. After traveling for four months, I came back somewhat. However, in agreement with the new owners, I will be stepping down completely. The about us page at WoO has already been updated to reflect this.

Here at WoV, I have asked Miro (our technical Wizard) to demote me as a moderator. I may or may not become a secret moderator. I do plan to still contribute to the Wordle and Easy Math Puzzles threads and maybe others as they interest me. However, I feel I've said everything I have to say about gambling and ready to devote my time and curiosity to new interests. I leave the active moderation in the capable hands of Dieter and Gordon, for whom I thank greatly for their time and effort.

I'd like to thank everyone who contributed here with quality posts about the mathematics of gambling and helped to make each other better gamblers. In addition to the current moderators, I also thank past moderators who did a tour of duty and moved on.
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Use this thread to enlighten us as to what these ‘other interests’ are!
I’ve had a blast here and on DT for these 17 years.
I’ll add to the thanks you will be getting.

From your second most favorite anesthesiologist….
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July 2nd, 2026 at 1:05:05 PM permalink
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From your second most favorite anesthesiologist….



Great line.

Wizard, it has been a pleasure knowing you, working with you, and bantering with you at this site. The best to you in your future endeavors.

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July 2nd, 2026 at 2:02:09 PM permalink
Glad you'll be sticking around!

Please keep us updated on all your adventures—they're fun and inspiring!
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July 2nd, 2026 at 2:03:07 PM permalink
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Joey?
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How is Joey related to Mike?
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July 2nd, 2026 at 2:20:40 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

This site was born on Nov. 9, 2009, when I was still young at 44.



Not to nitpick, how did I join a week before that?

Despite you knocking me out of the top-5 posters (lol) add me to the people thanking you for this site. Bother personal advice I have gotten as well as it helping me get a job in the industry. Plus who knows how many other things along the way.

The time has flown. People have come and gone.....and GONE (RIP.)

Thank you for your service!!
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July 2nd, 2026 at 3:25:09 PM permalink
I learned a lot.
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July 2nd, 2026 at 4:07:58 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Quote: Wizard

This site was born on Nov. 9, 2009, when I was still young at 44.



Not to nitpick, how did I join a week before that?

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I'm just going to go out on a limb and say there was a soft open on or about 30 October.
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July 2nd, 2026 at 4:41:23 PM permalink
Quote: Dieter

Quote: AZDuffman

Quote: Wizard

This site was born on Nov. 9, 2009, when I was still young at 44.



Not to nitpick, how did I join a week before that?

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I'm just going to go out on a limb and say there was a soft open on or about 30 October.
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Makes sense, at the time I was waiting for the open as I had a job where I did like 2 hours of work a day. It started as this and a smaller gambling forum which this site quickly outclassed.
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July 2nd, 2026 at 4:44:07 PM permalink
Thank you Wiz for all your hard work and dedication in helping us gamblers!
It was around 2001 when i first contacted you about craps and i was hooked ever since, Thus my user name.
(This was before your wizardofodds@cox.net email address?)

Who will be taking over your math analysis duties on future casino games?
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July 2nd, 2026 at 4:50:57 PM permalink
Another question:
Quote: Wizard

Now, at 61, I'm finally stepping down as the Wizard.
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Since you used to work for Social security, at what age are you going to collect?
Why?
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July 2nd, 2026 at 5:59:16 PM permalink
Thank you for everything. You’ve saved me a lot of money and given me a lot of enjoyment.

Congratulations!
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July 2nd, 2026 at 6:29:24 PM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

Who will be taking over your math analysis duties on future casino games?



I take it upon myself to become the Magician of Mathematics. Wait maybe the Aeromancer of Arithmetic. Perhaps the Conjurer of Calculations.

While I might not yet be worthy of the title, I am increasingly doing analysis of table games and would love to attempt to help out with this informally. I would be honored to collaborate with any mathematicians on the forum who are interested in this task.
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July 2nd, 2026 at 7:44:03 PM permalink
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July 2nd, 2026 at 8:13:19 PM permalink
Oh you'll still be a Wizard. Just of something else. And I'm sure it will be interesting!

I am the same age and changes like this can be refreshing. Also powerful, as the skills and discipline you develop in one area can often (with a mind kept open) be transferred to some other area where they are less common or nonexistent, allowing you to do things others can't, or haven't thought of. Like, what if gaming math was applied to SETI, or to evolutionary biology?
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July 3rd, 2026 at 4:11:16 AM permalink
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just wanted to add my thanks for hosting a high quality site that helped a lot of people improve and learn new things
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July 3rd, 2026 at 5:29:16 AM permalink
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This site was born on Nov. 9, 2009, when I was still young at 44.

Now, at 61, I'm finally stepping down as the Wizard.
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Now you can retire, play cards and complain about stuff.
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July 3rd, 2026 at 7:23:10 AM permalink
I have a joke for Wizard:

Wizard has retired as a gambling analyst, although he has a YouTube channel where he answers mostly gambling-related questions through live viewers.
He also plays video poker, and it's the only time he's ever seen a full house.

Seriously, why not keep on as a forum moderator, even if you are done with gambling and analyzing it? 
You are best known as "Wizard of Odds" and "Wizard of Vegas" is an extension of that.
I feel that if you leave completely, this forum will no longer capture the soul of the Wizard.
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July 3rd, 2026 at 9:44:25 AM permalink
Quote: harris

Quote: 100xOdds

Who will be taking over your math analysis duties on future casino games?



I take it upon myself to become the Magician of Mathematics. Wait maybe the Aeromancer of Arithmetic. Perhaps the Conjurer of Calculations.
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You left out Sorcerer of Statistics and Prestidigitater of Probabilities
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July 3rd, 2026 at 11:39:41 AM permalink
Quote: TumblingBones

Quote: harris

Quote: 100xOdds

Who will be taking over your math analysis duties on future casino games?



I take it upon myself to become the Magician of Mathematics. Wait maybe the Aeromancer of Arithmetic. Perhaps the Conjurer of Calculations.
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You left out Sorcerer of Statistics and Prestidigitater of Probabilities
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Prestidigitater I just learned a new word.
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July 4th, 2026 at 4:01:29 AM permalink
If the football picks game returns, I would hope you'd stick around to defend your title.

Thank you for the years of content. You have educated me and challenged me to think more than I could ever have imagined since I learned of the sites.

Good luck and enjoy retirement!
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July 4th, 2026 at 4:11:55 AM permalink
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I'm sure there will be. I will certainly suggest there be a clear way to submit a new game for addition to the site. It may be that we request a math report, unless the math is quite easy. My last new page created will probably be this one for Breakout Blackjack.
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w/r/t Breakout Blackjack is the owner, Bill James, the original sabermatician?
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July 4th, 2026 at 4:56:18 AM permalink
Quote: IndyJeffrey

Quote: Wizard

I'm sure there will be. I will certainly suggest there be a clear way to submit a new game for addition to the site. It may be that we request a math report, unless the math is quite easy. My last new page created will probably be this one for Breakout Blackjack.
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w/r/t Breakout Blackjack is the owner, Bill James, the original sabermatician?
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Last I heard about Bill James, he'd had a stroke about two years ago.
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July 4th, 2026 at 5:01:46 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

Quote: TumblingBones

Quote: harris

Quote: 100xOdds

Who will be taking over your math analysis duties on future casino games?



I take it upon myself to become the Magician of Mathematics. Wait maybe the Aeromancer of Arithmetic. Perhaps the Conjurer of Calculations.
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You left out Sorcerer of Statistics and Prestidigitater of Probabilities
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Prestidigitater I just learned a new word.
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How about the Houdini of House Edge? The BS'er of Basic Strategy? The codpiece of coders?
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July 4th, 2026 at 8:16:28 AM permalink
I am grateful for all your contributions. I got into game math watching your YouTube videos calculating house edge of blackjack in Excel. I wouldn't have become a game inventor without your forum and other resources you provided.
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August 20th, 2026 at 9:32:43 AM permalink
Reading today's final Wizard email newsletter felt like an epic journey after having followed the WoO website for a couple decades.

Mike, thank you again for making gambling (and gambling-related travel, and unicycles, and juggling, and…) more interesting and fun. And thanks for attracting other intelligent people to comment and contribute to one of our favorite hobbies.
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August 20th, 2026 at 12:11:29 PM permalink
He was able to throw in a "GOdfather" quote for good measure!
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August 20th, 2026 at 1:43:36 PM permalink
Quote: smoothgrh

Reading today's final Wizard email newsletter felt like an epic journey after having followed the WoO website for a couple decades.

Mike, thank you again for making gambling (and gambling-related travel, and unicycles, and juggling, and…) more interesting and fun. And thanks for attracting other intelligent people to comment and contribute to one of our favorite hobbies.
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Final newsletter Link:
https://wizardofodds.com/newsletter/farewell/
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August 20th, 2026 at 2:02:35 PM permalink
Also, his bio needs updating:
https://wizardofodds.com/site/about/bio/

At minimum, he no longer lives in Vegas
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August 21st, 2026 at 4:15:48 AM permalink
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much thanks to Mr. Shackleford for all of his service and excellent analysis of gambling games

his newsletter says this: "As for the Wizard sites and this newsletter, there is already a replacement to fill my shoes."

who is his replacement for this site ? - who is top man now ?

.
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August 21st, 2026 at 4:51:42 AM permalink
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much thanks to Mr. Shackleford for all of his service and excellent analysis of gambling games

his newsletter says this: "As for the Wizard sites and this newsletter, there is already a replacement to fill my shoes."

who is his replacement for this site ? - who is top man now ?

.
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There's another guy named Shackleford that works at WoO. He's also an actuary like Mike.
His specialty is sports book.
Maybe the owners expanded his role to everything in WoO?
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August 21st, 2026 at 2:29:07 PM permalink
I’m not sure how I missed this thread before now, although I did remark in my current G2E roll-call thread that it looks like you’ve retired. 👍

Thanks for everything, particularly our friendship. Best of wishes in all your future endeavors and all of that stuff. 🍾

But the important question is this: Will the Super Bowl betting window still be open? 😁
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August 21st, 2026 at 3:57:49 PM permalink
Thank you for all the kind words everyone. This is not a good bye as I plan to stick around WoV at about the same levels I post now.

The "new Wizard" is very busy building some amazing applications for sports betting. That is all I will say.

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But the important question is this: Will the Super Bowl betting window still be open? 😁
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Absolutely!
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August 22nd, 2026 at 3:55:28 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Thank you for all the kind words everyone. This is not a good bye as I plan to stick around WoV at about the same levels I post now.

The "new Wizard" is very busy building some amazing applications for sports betting. That is all I will say.
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So it is the other Shackleford :o
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