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August 21st, 2017 at 1:17:11 AM permalink
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A quick google says horse needs a rider to finish. Don't see anything about it being right before the finish line nor at another horse/jockey's fault. I did run into this, which was fairly interesting to say the least. The jockey, Frank Hayes, died of a heart attack mid race, stayed on the horse, and won the race.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Hayes_(jockey)



generally unknown to those who are not racing fans is that thoroughbred jockeys are at tremendous risk and almost all of them who have had lengthy careers have suffered falls and broken bones and assorted injuries. ron turcotte the fabulous jockey of secretariat was thrown off a horse and became paralyzed and a paraplegic. the best of them are tremendous and very brave athletes who not only endure risk but sacrifice the enjoyment of food for decades. the average weight of a thoroughbred jockey is about 114 which is very, very light even for a small man. even some regular horse players wrongly believe a jockey can control a horse. no 114 lb. man can fully control a 1,000 lb. animal. they can only ask.
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August 22nd, 2017 at 1:35:57 PM permalink
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You have to print two separate tickets.

What does this mean when you're betting with an ADW? A win must be 300*bet and more than $600. If you bet $1 straight that pays $350 and you bet it twice, what happens?
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August 22nd, 2017 at 2:36:56 PM permalink
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I think they just opened it up on ADW sites in the US. I don't really bet international. Too hard! I will be watching International racing tonight as the best horse in the world (Winx) will be racing in Australia.



You're kidding right. Last month Arrogate was best in world. Let me know when Winx races outside Australia. And no more 3 horse fields, I hope.
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August 22nd, 2017 at 7:54:41 PM permalink
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1. Cloud Computing, Chad Brown, Javier Castellano, 8-1

2. Giuseppe the Great, Nick Zito, Tyler Gaffalione, 20-1

3. West Coast, Bob Baffert, Mike Smith, 4-1

4. Tapwrit, Todd Pletcher, Jose Ortiz, 7-2

5. Good Samaritan, Bill Mott, Joel Rosario, 5-1

6. Girvin, Joe Sharp, Robby Albarado, 10-1

7. Always Dreaming, Todd Pletcher, John Velazquez, 6-1

8. Lookin At Lee, Steve Asmussen, Ricardo Santana Jr., 30-1

9. McCraken, Ian Wilkes, Brian Hernandez Jr., 12-1

10. Irap, Doug O’Neill, Mario Gutierrez, 8-1

11. Gunnevera, Antonio Sano, Edgard Zayas, 20-1

12. Fayeq, Kiaran McLaughlin, Luis Saez, 30-1

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August 22nd, 2017 at 8:40:06 PM permalink
I've never seen or heard of Fayeq, Guiseppe the great, and just a little of Good Samaritan. West Coast I've only heard of him because of Bob Baffert. I've not seen him race. Tapwrit is the favorite, no thanks at 7/2. He I'm pretty damn sure hasn't ran since the Belmont. Irap is going to be the wise guy horse. Cloud Computing and Always Dreaming, both did pretty bad in their last race when they were expected 1-2 and were 3-5 in a five horse race. Gunnevera, he hasn't been anywhere for a while, he was bleeding since the Belmont, 20/1 or better seems like a deal. Lookin at Lee, I'm not sure, probably just for exotics. Does he ever win? Girvin and McCracken, might have a chance for just a dumb reason, I'm always mentally blocking them out and they're not that bad. It's Saratoga, a weak crop, any horse can win.
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August 22nd, 2017 at 9:08:51 PM permalink
Race 4 at Mountaineer had some interesting results, do they bridge jump every week there?

7. Cobra Katrina $33.80 $56.60
5. D'forrest Diva. $45.40

$2 Exacta 7/5 $521
$2 Trifecta 7/5/2 $770.00

The exactas and trifectas don't really seem like good deals with the prices on WP. Trifecta take-outs at Mountaineer are 25%, exactas 19%, $2 minimum bets, $.50 superfectas, they're doing everything they can do to destroy their own horse racing business. Trackside action is terribly low, not even a single slot machine there. There didn't seem to be excess money in the exotic pool, was actually pretty low.

Question: Is this extra $20,000 bet really one person for the most part or is it just lemming hysteria?

The wps pool was $50,000, about $20,000 more than typical. The six horse was 1/5(.30), apparently just had to quit.
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August 23rd, 2017 at 2:42:53 AM permalink
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Race 4 at Mountaineer had some interesting results, do they bridge jump every week there?

7. Cobra Katrina $56.60
5. D'forrest Diva. $45.40
The six horse was 1/5(.30), apparently just had to quit.




absolutely as the french would say INCROYABLE. the horse they jumped on and threw money at, starnilla, is a hapless loser whose last 4 finishes are 5,6, 3 and 5. those prices are for place. cheap ass mountaineer declared no show wagering in a 5 horse field. the jumpers just about handed people money in this one. they have strayed far, far down the road into suckerville, u.s.a. considering that by betting $2.00 on every other horse to place the maximum a player could have lost was $5.80 the roi with the place bets was 17/1.
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August 23rd, 2017 at 12:45:29 PM permalink
songbird is running in the personal ensign stakes saturday at saratoga in a field of 5

she's been drawing millions into the show pools

it would pay boxcars if she's out of the money

the downside: songbird is arguably the greatest mare ever to step onto a racetrack

its not much fun betting against songbird
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August 23rd, 2017 at 6:13:39 PM permalink
Have you ever wondered how super low claiming prices really are? If you went to Mountaineer, 9 races, 9 horses a race, assume $5,000 per horse, because most are. They don't have so many in every race, and some go for more, So $405,000 a day, you can steal every horse. They're not all claiming races, but going with that figure, for $12,000,000 after 30 days, you could Mountaineer races out of business if you pulled them out of racing.
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August 24th, 2017 at 2:24:40 AM permalink
bill gates could put saratoga out of business on saturday. he could bet $50 billion on songbird to show. i doubt saratoga would be able to cough up the $2.5 billion profit it would owe him.


lol..............................................not really...................................................no way they would accept that bet


if gates lost a longshot in the show pool might pay $40k
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August 24th, 2017 at 2:44:05 AM permalink
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bill gates could put saratoga out of business on saturday. he could bet $50 billion on songbird to show. i doubt saratoga would be able to cough up the $2.5 billion profit it would owe him.


lol..............................................not really...................................................no way they would accept that bet


if gates lost a longshot in the show pool might pay $40k

That would be nice. The jockey would do a backflip off the horse and not many would care. He could just say he took Ambien.
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August 24th, 2017 at 2:53:30 AM permalink
I'm not really understanding Girvin and McCracken getting all this praise for the Travers. I almost feel obligated to bet them. I feel strongly to agree with Rich Perloff and Irap. Can just tell he feels he it's all but a technicality him having to wait to cash the check. I sense I'm underestimating Taprit, but it's not the Belmont. Is he the morning line fav just because he hasn't looked terrible lately like Always Dreaming and Cloud Computing? I'm smart enough to say vulnerable favorite, but is there a blind spot?

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August 24th, 2017 at 4:21:17 AM permalink
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I'm not really understanding Girvin and McCracken getting all this praise for the Travers. . I sense I'm underestimating Taprit, Is he the morning line fav just because he hasn't looked terrible lately favorite,



i haven't capped the field. but with a morning line favorite being pegged that high, 7/2, that is a sure sign that the race is wide open. i would focus on live longshots. i don't really like the exotics. i haven't got the patience to wait a long time for a big win so i would probably bet on more than one to win. saratoga is nicknamed "the graveyard of favorites." i won't be betting for or against songbird but i will surely be watching. she is a joy to watch. she's won 13 out of 14; all but her maiden race were graded stakes. got nosed out only once by another great one; beholder. incroyable.
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August 24th, 2017 at 4:16:03 PM permalink
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Arrogate didn't win. That's sad, but not as sad as if he repeated the race before. Should have known Bob Baffert sending two horses means something. I played the pick 4, sensed something was wrong when I played 3,6,8. To me it meant the 2 would probably win, but I didn't change my bet.



I'm catching up on 5 days of posts because I was out on my eclipse trip.

I would have hit the Saratoga/Del Mar pick-4 had Arrogate won. Of course, in the hypothetical question of how would I bet the race, I said single Arrogate, or bet Collected to win. Well, I singled Arrogate and never bet Collected...
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August 24th, 2017 at 4:16:53 PM permalink
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What does this mean when you're betting with an ADW? A win must be 300*bet and more than $600. If you bet $1 straight that pays $350 and you bet it twice, what happens?



No W-2 if you do it that way.
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August 24th, 2017 at 4:17:59 PM permalink
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You're kidding right. Last month Arrogate was best in world. Let me know when Winx races outside Australia. And no more 3 horse fields, I hope.



Did you see the race? That was impressive. I'm sure she's ranked #1 in the world.
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August 24th, 2017 at 4:20:15 PM permalink
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Race 4 at Mountaineer had some interesting results, do they bridge jump every week there?

7. Cobra Katrina $33.80 $56.60
5. D'forrest Diva. $45.40

$2 Exacta 7/5 $521
$2 Trifecta 7/5/2 $770.00

The exactas and trifectas don't really seem like good deals with the prices on WP. Trifecta take-outs at Mountaineer are 25%, exactas 19%, $2 minimum bets, $.50 superfectas, they're doing everything they can do to destroy their own horse racing business. Trackside action is terribly low, not even a single slot machine there. There didn't seem to be excess money in the exotic pool, was actually pretty low.

Question: Is this extra $20,000 bet really one person for the most part or is it just lemming hysteria?

The wps pool was $50,000, about $20,000 more than typical. The six horse was 1/5(.30), apparently just had to quit.



I bet there's a bridge jumper every week at Mountaineer. I'd say most of that 20K extra is one guy.
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August 24th, 2017 at 4:21:45 PM permalink
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songbird is running in the personal ensign stakes saturday at saratoga in a field of 5

she's been drawing millions into the show pools

it would pay boxcars if she's out of the money

the downside: songbird is arguably the greatest mare ever to step onto a racetrack

its not much fun betting against songbird



I'll bet against her if the show money is 92% or higher. I don't want to get in a debate - I think Songbird is a great horse, but I think she is overrated.
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August 24th, 2017 at 4:26:13 PM permalink
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I'm not really understanding Girvin and McCracken getting all this praise for the Travers. I almost feel obligated to bet them. I feel strongly to agree with Rich Perloff and Irap. Can just tell he feels he it's all but a technicality him having to wait to cash the check. I sense I'm underestimating Taprit, but it's not the Belmont. Is he the morning line fav just because he hasn't looked terrible lately like Always Dreaming and Cloud Computing? I'm smart enough to say vulnerable favorite, but is there a blind spot?

Wish all the banned members that would comment in threads like these were around, even Larrys and his clilclo I miss those people, better than the crickets.



The Travers is impossible this year. Last year I had 5 out of 5 in the Pick-6 going into the Travers. I singled Destin. My will pay was around 6K. He was actually looking okay until that freight train named Arrogate came around.

I think I'm going to play a small contest this year to try to win an entry to the Orleans Fall Classic.

I've liked Gunnevera all year. If he wins, I'll probably win any contest I'm in. So I might just go for him. West Coast scares me because it's Baffert bringing another one over who could be real good. You could make an argument for almost all of them.
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August 25th, 2017 at 2:34:47 AM permalink
west coast is hard not to like. he's run well every single race. he's never been in a Grade 1 before the highest is Grade 3 so maybe he won't be crushed down too much although being connected to baffert and smith means he won't be ignored. if find gunnevera erratic. his 4 Grade 1s he has not done well finishing 5, 7, 3 and 5. having said that he is 20/1 on the morning line which is a very nice price.
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August 25th, 2017 at 2:44:35 AM permalink
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I'll bet against her if the show money is 92% or higher. I don't want to get in a debate - I think Songbird is a great horse, but I think she is overrated.



i don't want to debate either but i'll just say one thing. andrew beyer ridiculed her before last years breeders cup distaff because she didn't have great figures. he said she would be out of the money; that beholder and stellar wind would crush her. of course, beholder did just barely nose her out but she crushed the rest of the field. she was the only filly out there. the rest were older.
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August 25th, 2017 at 3:52:59 PM permalink
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i don't want to debate either but i'll just say one thing. andrew beyer ridiculed her before last years breeders cup distaff because she didn't have great figures. he said she would be out of the money; that beholder and stellar wind would crush her. of course, beholder did just barely nose her out but she crushed the rest of the field. she was the only filly out there. the rest were older.



We can agree Beyer is an idiot!

I had it Beholder then Songbird, and I was right (Barely). That may be the most thrilling horse race I've seen. I have a picture of it hanging in my house.
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August 25th, 2017 at 5:30:18 PM permalink
No show wagering in the Songbird race tomorrow :(
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August 25th, 2017 at 5:33:21 PM permalink
Place will do. Call bet $50,000 on songbird
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August 25th, 2017 at 6:35:44 PM permalink
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Place will do. Call bet $50,000 on songbird


Going for broke? Lol.
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August 25th, 2017 at 6:51:21 PM permalink
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August 25th, 2017 at 9:48:22 PM permalink
Contest Picks:

SAR 6 - Eskenformoney
SAR 7 - By the Moon
SAR 8 - Ann Arbor Eddie
SAR 9 - Stallwalkin Dude
SAR 10 - Bigger Picture
SAR 11 - Fayeq
SAR 12 - On Leave

Top Showvivor Pick:

6 - Songbird
7 - Carina Mia
8 - Coal Front
9 - Mind your Biscuits
10 - Money Multiplier
11 - Good Samaritan
12 - Lady Eli

Pick 4 Main Ticket: ($54)

8 - Takaful, Ann Arbor Eddie, Coal Front, American Anthem
9 - Stallwalkin Dude, Mind your Biscuits, Drefong,
10 - Bigger Picture, Money Multiplier, Idaho
11 - West Coast, Good Samaritan, Fayeq

If it goes Ann Arbor Eddie, Stallwalkin Dude, Bigger Picture, Fayeq - Drinks on me.

Good luck everyone.
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August 25th, 2017 at 10:30:18 PM permalink
I'm hoping I do well tomorrow. If I do might go crazy with On Leave WP. I like the horse, but it raced 8/5 when I hit back to back $1 tries. Never know what might happen, 3 weeks is enough rest. I've always wanted to bet $100 to win, but I'm always chicken. Next bet after $100 is $200, that's why too.

I'm either going to play Ross or Divining Rod in r9, I have no effing idea why I decided to pick Ross, it's probably impulse. Cannot deny it just in case, and will bet a half bet WP on Divining Rod as insurance, going to box 2,4,6.

Talk about Fayeq. What's up and down on that horse.
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August 26th, 2017 at 3:57:54 AM permalink
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Top Showvivor Pick:
11 - Good Samaritan



nice pick. switched from turf to dirt and won first time on dirt in a grade 2 stakes the jim dandy. i watched the video. he made a powerful, sweeping, closing move.
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August 26th, 2017 at 11:17:24 AM permalink
I'm not too busy right now, so I might be doing a bunch of posting...

12 MTP at Saratoga - 180K on Songbird in place pool out of 220K total. I bet the minimum against her in the place pool. It's not really even that great of a bet actually.
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August 26th, 2017 at 11:32:19 AM permalink
I don't like being right, but Songbird is just overrated. It's too bad Eskenformoney couldn't pass her. about 75% of the place money was on Songbird, and they can enjoy their 5% return.
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August 26th, 2017 at 12:23:22 PM permalink
The site is too slow. Good luck everyone.
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August 26th, 2017 at 1:55:24 PM permalink
Just hit Sadler's Joy and have a double going to the 3 in the Travers
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August 26th, 2017 at 11:43:32 PM permalink
Knew better than to ignore West Coast, but I did. Sadler's Joy made my day, was glad to get 7/1. Forgot to make my tri box bet of 2/3/5, couldnt get it in time when i remembered, so small mistake.

Liked Irap, friend suggested Gunnevera and I thought it was a good idea, felt more confident about Tapwrit as I woke up too. Unfortunately I gained confidence in Always Dreaming too. Had 4/7/10/11 ex box and 4/10/11 tri box. Had $50 layer out already on the Travers, didn't want to spend any more money, chickened out on a small $6 wps bet on Gunnevera. My friend did mention West Coast the other day, but I decided to just ignore it for absolutely no reason. Basically justified West Coast as hype, Baffert doesn't enter races he doesn't think he can win. Duh.

Went crazy afterward $10 w/$20 place on On Leave. Knew I was screwed when he took the lead. Then from there pissed away another $50 on races I knew nothing about. Rationalized not playing more in the Travers, then didn't care when I lost.
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August 27th, 2017 at 9:55:54 PM permalink
just curious...are you guys day to day handicappers or do you just come out for the bigger races???
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August 27th, 2017 at 10:05:59 PM permalink
Bridge jumper at Mountaineer in race 2. The win totals were super high, told my sister to bet them all to win. It was kind of useless because the horses that came first and second were bet way down. The other half, 5th through 8th were not, but they had no chance or so it seems. I bet the show on all but the #1 horse and luckily it came in fourth. The win and place pools seemed to reach equilibrium on at least the top two finishers, so don't think I'll recommend the win all but one option again. Show bets in this race paid $65 total iirc, on a $14 bet. The seven horse paid the majority, over $40.

Bet two horses to show, the 3 in race 9 at Saratoga, and the 6 in race 6 at Delmar. Was going to go heavier on the 3, but I lost $50 in a must hit at negative expectation. For $50, only 64 points at minimum bets. I swear Ill never play a must hit close to being good, because they're not good gambling there. I'm about 95% convinced those machines at that casino self-regulate to take into context the minors and majors getting up there. This money thrown away cost me a $20 show bet on Wheatfield the 3 that paid $10, so $106. Wanted to quit the machine, but getting zilch unfortunately motivates me to keep playing. They're cruel, has to be something unique there.
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August 27th, 2017 at 10:33:29 PM permalink
I must admit I assumed the show pool was a minus pool. I didn't have my phone with me to check the wps pool betting. One thing for sure it seems, dont bet exotics, the money isn't going into exactas, trifectas, supers. Time after time you see these large win and large place wins, never translates to the exotics. My rule of thumb the win bet win multiplied by the place bet winnings generally gets close to predict the exactas. Way off when these overbet horses dont make the money. That's not the point, point is they're betting on one horse, not two horses. Never pay much attention to doubles, etc., maybe they're getting the money.
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August 28th, 2017 at 6:47:33 AM permalink
i liked west coast better than good samaritan. i knew the crowd left west coast alone a little bit because he had only run in grade 3s. so i bet good samaritan thinking the crowd was wise. suckered. even though i know that the crowd overrating the factor of class is one of the best ways to find a good bet. plus west coast is connected to smith and baffert. i made a bad, bad, stupid ass decision. hopefully i'll learn from it and it won't happen again.


drefong might be one of the greatest sprinters we've seen in quite a while. he was fairly close to the track record even while gearing down late. even though he's probably better at 6 furlongs than 7. very, very impressive. he's won every single race except his first maiden try and one where he did not finish and probably had a good excuse.
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August 28th, 2017 at 3:56:32 PM permalink
I have to admit I get confused betting digitally. I'll make audibles at betting time, not having a piece of paper makes me forget even what horses I bet sometimes. I'm going to have to go old fashioned paper and pen keeping a horse journal for these big races, because I forget a lot. Always seems like my bets get better closer and closer to the race, that's why ill post and come back saying I bet differently. Just havent felt like replacing my phone, but I have to soon. Technically I shouldn't post my bets, but with me posting might cause a reverse psychology reaction to other horses. Everyone cashes in big races with any knowledge beyond just one hour of reading articles and watching YouTube videos the day of the race. I dont read forms the best, but I really don't know how people pick these big races only seeing the form
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August 29th, 2017 at 3:54:13 AM permalink
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I have to admit I get confused betting digitally. I'll make audibles at betting time, not having a piece of paper makes me forget even what horses I bet sometimes.



i'm interpreting the fact that you posted this to mean that you wanted to hear some comment about it. that is why i am commenting and i hope it's not offensive to you, i don't mean it in that way. but i would suggest that you slow down a little bit. try to find a few horses that you find highly competitive and you expect to go off at decent odds. try to make a plan for the day and allow yourself only one or two bets off of that plan if you see something you like. it's very difficult if not impossible to find a great many good bets in a day at the track. i have made some bad mistakes at the track too and i have found that slowing down and reducing the number of bets i make has been very worthwhile. i hope this post was helpful. if not, i'll refrain next time. GOOD LUCK.
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August 29th, 2017 at 7:08:34 PM permalink
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i'm interpreting the fact that you posted this to mean that you wanted to hear some comment about it. that is why i am commenting and i hope it's not offensive to you, i don't mean it in that way. but i would suggest that you slow down a little bit. try to find a few horses that you find highly competitive and you expect to go off at decent odds. try to make a plan for the day and allow yourself only one or two bets off of that plan if you see something you like. it's very difficult if not impossible to find a great many good bets in a day at the track. i have made some bad mistakes at the track too and i have found that slowing down and reducing the number of bets i make has been very worthwhile. i hope this post was helpful. if not, i'll refrain next time. GOOD LUCK.

That's probably right, I'm playing too often and going from skilled betting into hunch betting pretty much. I like it though, entertainment and cheaper than slots in shit hole casino. I'm thinking of horses lately to show, basically looking for long shots where winning is being third. Not too many of those. If I hit one, maybe 4x-7x bet.
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August 30th, 2017 at 12:38:07 PM permalink
Sunday September 3rd, Siteenparksidelane is running in race 9. The bridge jumpers came out August 15th for this horse, but the horse was scratched before the race. Will probably return again, but this horse will be tough. If I had to guess who could beat him, Mo Satin or I'd go with a horse that hadn't raced in a few weeks. Siteen hasn't raced since July 23rd, wish I knew why he was scratched that day.
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August 30th, 2017 at 12:47:01 PM permalink
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Sunday September 3rd, Siteenparksidelane is running in race 9. The bridge jumpers came out August 15th for this horse, but the horse was scratched before the race. Will probably return again, but this horse will be tough. If I had to guess who could beat him, Mo Satin or I'd go with a horse that hadn't raced in a few weeks. Siteen hasn't raced since July 23rd, wish I knew why he was scratched that day.

which track?
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August 30th, 2017 at 1:29:24 PM permalink
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which track?

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August 30th, 2017 at 2:47:43 PM permalink
I'm wondering if Winx might be upset next race. Wearing ear muffs that cut down noise 20%. She trains with them, but that's risky in a race.
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August 30th, 2017 at 3:09:09 PM permalink
if you guys are interested in betting on the best horses in the country this is the stakes schedule for september. choose september from the drop down menu then scroll down. a great many stakes races are relatively unpublicized but some showcase great horses. labor day is offering 2 grade 1s for 2 year olds.


http://www1.drf.com/misc/stakes_schedule.jsp
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September 2nd, 2017 at 10:52:06 PM permalink
For the second time in a row, I find out Yoshida is Japanese for second place. I bet against Gun Runner with Neolithic. Surprised Neolithic went for the lead, Gun Runner passed him like he was standing still at the top of the stretch. So much for Gun Runner not having faced good competition, he will beat Arrogate in the Breeders' cup. It's possible he might have won the Pegasus if he was not quarantined.

St. Patrick's Day did well, full brother to American Pharoah.
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September 3rd, 2017 at 2:25:20 AM permalink
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For the second time in a row, I find out Yoshida is Japanese for second place. I bet against Gun Runner with Neolithic. Surprised Neolithic went for the lead, Gun Runner passed him like he was standing still at the top of the stretch. So much for Gun Runner not having faced good competition, he will beat Arrogate in the Breeders' cup. It's possible he might have won the Pegasus if he was not quarantined.

St. Patrick's Day did well, full brother to American Pharoah.



I didn't see what St. Patrick's day did, what kind of race was he in? I wasn't going to bet against Gun Runner. He's probably the best horse in the country right now. I also will always have a soft spot for him because he was my single in a P4 that hit for about $5K.
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September 3rd, 2017 at 3:50:18 AM permalink
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I didn't see what St. Patrick's day did, what kind of race was he in? I wasn't going to bet against Gun Runner. He's probably the best horse in the country right now. I also will always have a soft spot for him because he was my single in a P4 that hit for about $5K.

Maiden special weight at Del Mar, won by 1/2 length at 4/5. I wasn't going to bet against Gun Runner, but then I did just in case. I was tempted by the premise of a battle then Neolithic sneaking in, but it didn't happen, not even close. It would have taken him breaking a leg to lose, when a horse is that much better.
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September 3rd, 2017 at 8:11:05 PM permalink
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Sunday September 3rd, Siteenparksidelane is running in race 9. The bridge jumpers came out August 15th for this horse, but the horse was scratched before the race. Will probably return again, but this horse will be tough. If I had to guess who could beat him, Mo Satin or I'd go with a horse that hadn't raced in a few weeks. Siteen hasn't raced since July 23rd, wish I knew why he was scratched that day.

The bridge jumpers paid out well. I had forgot all about this, convinced myself he ran tomorrow. WPS pool $119,000.
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