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PeteM
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October 4th, 2011 at 7:02:42 PM permalink
All other things aside, how does one manage to SLIDE a die the length of a Craps table? And do it without both dealers, the stick, AND the boxman yelling no roll! It's purely academic to me. The Wynn is far beyond my comfort level. Although they did cheat, so bad cess to them.
"Win with a smile, lose with grace."
FleaStiff
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October 4th, 2011 at 7:17:40 PM permalink
Lets face it, ... boxmen can be bought. And Wynn is not bound by that transaction.
jwblue
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October 4th, 2011 at 7:54:29 PM permalink
Quote: Keyser

And clearly they aren't bound by any real code of ethics. It's a sleazy enough situation that I won't return to the Wynn, especially since this appears to be how they treat their high rollers that are fortunate enough to win. I hope these players have the common sense to counter sue the Wynn for 'bad faith'.

And where's gaming? Is bad faith acceptable in LV now? Is this a sign of the times in LV?

Someone needs to contact Bob Nersesian, and the LV Bear.


Again, truly disgusting



If someone doesn't cheat, they aren't going to go after a winner's money.

As long as someone doesn't cheat, the casino won't come after the gambler.
rxwine
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October 4th, 2011 at 8:12:54 PM permalink
Veronica Dabul
Quasimodo? Does that name ring a bell?
Keyser
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October 4th, 2011 at 8:17:32 PM permalink
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If someone doesn't cheat, they aren't going to go after a winner's money.



It depends on the amount of money won, and the casino.
These are tough times and the Wynn, and Caesar's Palace are playing down and dirty. Consequently, fewer foreigners will be making the trip to LV and will instead opt to travel to Macau. I'd be interested in seeing just how many large payouts are being disputed these days via the patron dispute process.

Again, 'bad faith'.
MrV
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October 4th, 2011 at 8:51:48 PM permalink
I expect it will not be easy to prove in court that they were cheating; the player who "slid" will simply shake his head and say "Huh? That's just how I throw them. It happens sometimes. The dealers saw it, the box saw it, they said nothing."

Pretty good defense, actually.

Wynn himself must have made the "executive decision" to sue the alleged scallywags, perhaps taking it personal: bad business decision on his part, most especially if, as I expect, he loses in a court of law.

Odds are it will never go to court; it should settle quietly, and most likely confidentially ... with the players keeping all or most of their winnings: unless they are running scared.

Do the South Americans have the cajones to roll the dice, winner take all, in Las Vegas?

Stay tuned ...
"What, me worry?"
Keyser
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October 4th, 2011 at 8:56:16 PM permalink
I use to debate with my friends abroad about how LV was the safest place to gamble. I'd tell them, "Come to Vegas!"

These days, I'm ashamed to say that I no longer believe that to be necessarily true.

These days, when the casino loses enough, it appears that they will try to send the attorneys in to get it back.
The attorneys have become the 'knock around guys'. If you win too much they will pay 'yooz' a visit.
Paigowdan
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October 4th, 2011 at 9:41:39 PM permalink
That is not true, and ridiculous.
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Keyser
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October 4th, 2011 at 10:07:13 PM permalink
As absurd as it sounds, it's still what appears to be happening in Vegas.

Bad economy = 'bad faith'
EvenBob
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October 4th, 2011 at 10:25:02 PM permalink
Quote: Keyser

These days, when the casino loses enough, it appears that they will try to send the attorneys in to get it back.The attorneys have become the 'knock around guys'. If you win too much they will pay 'yooz' a visit.



Hey, I don't have to be convinced. The casino is the Dark Side,
there is no lengths they won't go to. Just by walking thru the
door you've entered into a contract for them to try and get every
dime you have, by any means they choose.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal

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