Coronavirus math
I got my 4th shot and somehow my old phone number from 5 years ago got entered into the system so I can't get the phone COVID ID app to work for my identity.
The pharmacist put the wrong date on my card, so I had to come back and get a new card. I'm gonna have to blame the pharmacist because he's the one inputting the disinformation.
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One of the times I accessed the state record of my Covid vaccinations, they were missing one of the records and I had to submit an image of the vaccination card itself, in order to update. But today, the system isn't working at all.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-06-21/fixing-california-covid-digital-vaccination-record-issues
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Whenever we've gone to stadium events, they have used an app such as Clear to allow us access, or simply glanced at the vaccination card image on our phones (not via the CA system, just pics we took and placed on our own phones).
For a while there, the casinos were not allowing access to tournaments, special events including New Year's Eve parties without proof of a negative Covid test taken within 24 hours of the event, and the casinos were providing the testing themselves on property.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WTZo9ieBKY
Omicron variant being studied kills 80% of mice. This is the gain of function lab work being suspected of in Wuhan previously. If this new virus leaks from the Boston lab, it could kill up to 80% of humans rapidly and there's no vaccine.
Quote: ChumpChangeNew Boston virus - Dr. John Campbell - 2.49M subscribers - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WTZo9ieBKY
Omicron variant being studied kills 80% of mice. This is the gain of function lab work being suspected of in Wuhan previously. If this new virus leaks from the Boston lab, it could kill up to 80% of humans rapidly and there's no vaccine.
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I doubt 80% of the Earth's mice population would die. Between mice variation and virus variation plus the immense numbers involved it's just improbable.
Now if humans helped spread it widely all over at the same time on purpose, you could certainly obtain significant mortality.
Quote: ChumpChangeNew Boston virus - Dr. John Campbell - 2.49M subscribers - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WTZo9ieBKY
Omicron variant being studied kills 80% of mice. This is the gain of function lab work being suspected of in Wuhan previously. If this new virus leaks from the Boston lab, it could kill up to 80% of humans rapidly and there's no vaccine.
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The experiment involved 10, count em, ten mice and eight died. That IS 80% but hardly a reasonable sample size.
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Quote: vegasWorld Health Organization has announced the end of the COVID-19 pandemic is in sight.
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Ever since we got our most recent bivalent booster shots in September 2022, we stopped wearing masks for the most part, not at events, not at concerts, not at restaurants, not at the gym, not in public. I have played a little bit of poker and when I do that, surrounded by so many players in close proximity, I do wear a mask, but otherwise not at all not at the tables not anywhere in the casino.
Quote: vegasWorld Health Organization has announced the end of the COVID-19 pandemic is in sight.
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Yes, its in sight, but only in the rear view mirror.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1592626664131145728.html
People who don't understand the math (and there are lots of them) think this means that vaccination makes it more likely that you'll die of COVID, and they're screaming all over Twitter and elsewhere about it.
One of the reasons that more vaxxed than untaxed die of COVID is that way more people have been vaxxed in the first place. Here's an example with made-up numbers:
1000 people
90% get vaxxed (900)
10% don't get vaxxed (100)
COVID kills 20% of the vaxxed people (180)
and 80% of the unvaxxed (80)
COVID killed more vaxxed people in this example simply because more of them got vaxxed, not b/c vaccinations causes death. In the example, unvaxxed people were four times as likely to die from COVID as vaxxed people.
Similarly, years ago a reader screamed at me when I wrote that riding a bicycle against traffic is dangerous and that something like 20% of bicyclist fatalities were people who rode the wrong way. He concluded that my figure meant that 80% of fatalities were from people who rode in the "correct" direction (with traffic), therefore "any idiot" could see that riding in the "correct" direction was way more dangerous than riding in the wrong direction. Same kind of misunderstanding.
We actually both had colds in Vegas some weeks ago - just colds, I was PCR tested twice (Covid negative), which maybe if I and everyone around me had kept masking we would not have gotten sick.
Quote: MichaelBluejayNews outlets are reporting that there are now more COVID deaths among vaccinated people than among the unvaccinated.
People who don't understand the math (and there are lots of them) think this means that vaccination makes it more likely that you'll die of COVID, and they're screaming all over Twitter and elsewhere about it.
It does make me wonder why I should get the vax?
Flaw here is we do not know how many people are unvaxed. While I doubt that the vax makes you more likely to die, I wonder how much it improves your chances. My mother and her sister are vaxed, they both caught it. I am unvaxed and don't mask, I have not.
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: MichaelBluejayNews outlets are reporting that there are now more COVID deaths among vaccinated people than among the unvaccinated.
People who don't understand the math (and there are lots of them) think this means that vaccination makes it more likely that you'll die of COVID, and they're screaming all over Twitter and elsewhere about it.
It does make me wonder why I should get the vax?
Flaw here is we do not know how many people are unvaxed. While I doubt that the vax makes you more likely to die, I wonder how much it improves your chances. My mother and her sister are vaxed, they both caught it. I am unvaxed and don't mask, I have not.
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First of all, you may have caught it and been asymptomatic.
Or just had mild symptoms which you ignored.
AZ, you can post ‘it does make me wonder why I should get the vax’ as often as you want. You can post as many anecdotes as you want.
None of which changes the facts that all other factors being equal, you are way less likely to die from COVID if you are vaxxed than if you are not. It’s really simple.
Quote: SOOPOOQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: MichaelBluejayNews outlets are reporting that there are now more COVID deaths among vaccinated people than among the unvaccinated.
People who don't understand the math (and there are lots of them) think this means that vaccination makes it more likely that you'll die of COVID, and they're screaming all over Twitter and elsewhere about it.
It does make me wonder why I should get the vax?
Flaw here is we do not know how many people are unvaxed. While I doubt that the vax makes you more likely to die, I wonder how much it improves your chances. My mother and her sister are vaxed, they both caught it. I am unvaxed and don't mask, I have not.
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First of all, you may have caught it and been asymptomatic.
Or just had mild symptoms which you ignored.
I probably had it March of 2020. I managed to almost die of other things since, but doubt I have had the virus.
Quote:AZ, you can post ‘it does make me wonder why I should get the vax’ as often as you want. You can post as many anecdotes as you want.
None of which changes the facts that all other factors being equal, you are way less likely to die from COVID if you are vaxxed than if you are not. It’s really simple.
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Yet still the vaxed fear the unvaxed. The more I hear about vaxed people getting it the more I question it. Meantime this whole virus thing has been a disturbing lesson in human nature..
It actually *does* reduce your chances of getting it, but not nearly as much as it reduces mortality.
And effectiveness fades fast. Only 11% of people got the latest booster, so the mortality % is rising.
Quote: MichaelBluejayThe vaccine isn’t supposed to prevent you from GETTING Covid, it’s supposed to reduce your chances of dying if you do get it.
It actually *does* reduce your chances of getting it, but not nearly as much as it reduces mortality.
And effectiveness fades fast. Only 11% of people got the latest booster, so the mortality % is rising.
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And that all sums up why I am not seeing the risk/reward benefit. Saying I will still get sick and if I do not keep getting shots they will quickly wear off is not going to close the sale with me.
Quote: MDawgWhat risk? In the history of vaccines if nothing much adverse happens to you within six weeks nothing will happen, has been the case with almost every vaccine.
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Something foreign in your body is a risk.
How many pages of warnings are there in the package of the vax?
Don't you want your grandkids to be authentic humans, not genetically altered hybrids?
Keep your family pure-blooded Refuse the jab.
If duffman wants to stay pure. I support her decision.
If she doesn't want to address people by the pronouns they request, I support her 100%.
You go, gurl.
I don't know how the anti-vax crowd keeps pure. You're inhaling a combination of chemicals in the air, from work crews putting down road tar, to exhausts, to all kinds of combinations food additives, chemicals to preserve materials in the clothes you wear, even grass blowing in the air of people cutting their lawns after using weed killers. etc., etc.,
Quote: billryanThe vax changes your DNA. Do you want your kids to marry someone whose DNA has been altered?
Don't you want your grandkids to be authentic humans, not genetically altered hybrids?
Keep your family pure-blooded Refuse the jab.
If duffman wants to stay pure. I support her decision.
If she doesn't want to address people by the pronouns they request, I support her 100%.
You go, gurl.
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It is AZDuffMAN, which is male. For males you use a male pronoun.
I said I identify as "AZDuffman the Great" so if you are into using preferred please use that.
Otherwise I request management look into your personal insult there.
Anyways, the dream of selling my unvaxxed sperm for big bucks died long ago.
Quote: MDawgIt's not worth discussing covid vaccines with someone who thinks "The vax changes your DNA." 🥸
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Who said this?
Hmmmmm. We know that's not true.Quote: billryanThe vax changes your DNA.
And only breed with people with the same DNA and opinions?Quote: billryanKeep your family pure-blooded Refuse the jab.
Quote: billryanIf duffman wants to stay pure. I support [redacted] decision.
If [redacted] doesn't want to address people by the pronouns they request, I support [redacted] 100%.
You go, [redacted] .
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Oh heck..... I have a bad feeling about this. $:o)
Quote: OnceDearHmmmmm. We know that's not true.Quote: billryanThe vax changes your DNA.
And only breed with people with the same DNA and opinions?Quote: billryanKeep your family pure-blooded Refuse the jab.
Quote: billryanIf duffman wants to stay pure. I support [redacted] decision.
If [redacted] doesn't want to address people by the pronouns they request, I support [redacted] 100%.
You go, [redacted] .
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Oh heck..... I have a bad feeling about this. $:o)
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If one member can decide which pronouns they choose to use to address a member, why can't all of us? Is a person perceives it as an insult, why does he do it?
As Albert Dorfman, head of the Flat Earth society, said- "Only by going too far can we know how far we can go.
Push it a bit further each time, and get as close to the edge as pos.....
Three days ain't no sentence, and one year ain't no time.
I was born in Angola, serving fourteen to ninety nine.
Quote: OnceDearHmmmmm. We know that's not true.Quote: billryanThe vax changes your DNA.
And only breed with people with the same DNA and opinions?Quote: billryanKeep your family pure-blooded Refuse the jab.
Quote: billryanIf duffman wants to stay pure. I support [redacted] decision.
If [redacted] doesn't want to address people by the pronouns they request, I support [redacted] 100%.
You go, [redacted] .
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Oh heck..... I have a bad feeling about this. $:o)
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If one member can decide which pronouns they choose to use to address a member, why can't all of us? Is a person perceives it as an insult, why does he do it?
As Albert Dorfman, head of the Flat Earth society, said- "Only by going too far can we know how far we can go.
Push it a bit further each time, and get as close to the edge as pos.....
Three days ain't no sentence, and one year ain't no time.
I was born in Angola, serving fourteen to ninety nine.
Quote: billryanIf duffman wants to stay pure. I support her decision.
If she doesn't want to address people by the pronouns they request, I support her 100%.
You go, gurl.
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Hijacking. The pronoun issue had nothing to do with the topic of Corona math. Three-day suspension.
Quote: ChumpChangeAll this snow blowing in from Buffalo better not be COVID snow.
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It is just to keep the Detroit Bills in Detroit.
Back to the virus, has anyone been noticing China? Virus restrictions might bring things down over there. People literally locked at home. People screaming out the windows that they are starving. On the clever front, protestors holding up blank signs because any statement the government does not like can lead to arrest.
This swings to covid math in that the government there wants a "NO COVID" policy. At what cost?
NYS went straight to lockdowns in March 2020, and there's no reason that can't return. COVID is mutating and eventually there will be a dominant strain that no vaccine can touch, and it takes a year to develop new vaccines. Hospital capacity seems to be the driving force in whether mask mandates and social distancing rules come back. But there's a new variant coming out every few weeks and there's always speculation that this new one is utterly resistant to medicine and it will spread like wildfire, and you'll get lockdowns again.
Of course one party is pro-COVID and they won't stop. GOP senators threaten to block NDAA over COVID-19 vaccine mandate https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2022/11/30/gop-senators-threaten-to-block-ndaa-over-covid-19-vaccine-mandate/
The lawmakers involved in the anti-vaccine effort argued that because most troops are young and healthy, the vaccine provides little to no value to their long-term fitness.
Defense Department officials have said because of the quick-spreading nature of coronavirus, the vaccine is needed to limit the number of individuals in the Defense Department — both military and civilian — who will face serious health consequences from COVID-19 illnesses. They have also framed the vaccine requirement as a readiness issue since the rapid spread of the illness could incapacitate a military unit.
More than 98 million cases of COVID-19 infection have been recorded in America since the start of the pandemic in spring 2020. At least 1,075,000 have died from complications related to the virus, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Federal officials have worked in recent months to convince the public that the vaccine is safe and needed to stop the spread of coronavirus. Military officials have also argued that troops are required to receive a host of other vaccines in order to stay in the ranks, and the Covid-19 one should not be treated differently.
The national defense authorization bill is seen as a must-pass measure for Congress each year. It sets a host of spending policies and priorities for the military, including the annual military pay raise and a host of new program starts, and has passed annually for more than five decades.
Both Senate and House leaders have said they are close to a final compromise on this year’s bill. The House is expected to bring a draft to the full chamber floor next week.
Quote: ChumpChangeThat's how January 2020 started in China. They have not moved forward, and vaccines are not a priority over there. They have very dense population concentrations and the virus can rage out of control within a couple of weeks. But the gov't has gone into overkill with the lockdowns, welding doors shut to leave residents to die in their buildings. January 2020 started out with people dying while walking down the streets or doing shopping. Cities dug up their roads at the borders to prevent travel to and from the city. Crematoriums were beyond capacity and polluting the country. NYS went straight to lockdowns in March 2020, and there's no reason that can't return. COVID is mutating and eventually there will be a dominant strain that no vaccine can touch, and it takes a year to develop new vaccines. Hospital capacity seems to be the driving force in whether mask mandates and social distancing rules come back. But there's a new variant coming out every few weeks and there's always speculation that this new one is utterly resistant to medicine and it will spread like wildfire, and you'll get lockdowns again.
Viruses will possibly be what ends mankind. Maybe this is the one, who knows. The thing is, remember how some people here cheered every control measure, whether it made sense or not? China us kind of that attitude on steroids.
Quote:Of course one party is pro-COVID and they won't stop. GOP senators threaten to block NDAA over COVID-19 vaccine mandate https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2022/11/30/gop-senators-threaten-to-block-ndaa-over-covid-19-vaccine-mandate/
The lawmakers involved in the anti-vaccine effort argued that because most troops are young and healthy, the vaccine provides little to no value to their long-term fitness.
Defense Department officials have said because of the quick-spreading nature of coronavirus, the vaccine is needed to limit the number of individuals in the Defense Department — both military and civilian — who will face serious health consequences from COVID-19 illnesses. They have also framed the vaccine requirement as a readiness issue since the rapid spread of the illness could incapacitate a military unit.
This is "pro covid" how, exactly? Ever hear of Gulf War Syndrome? Very, very likely picked up from one of the vaxes they were forced to take. Given many of the policies of our armed forces, I am do not really hold the DoD in high regard. They have deliberately put troops in harms way before for "research" and will again.
We’re both bivalent boostered as of early September.
I took a look at transmission rates, both in Vegas and southern California, and they are on the rise, more so in Vegas than southern Cal.
AZ seems to have some real problems, and is making headlines today. Arizona is the only state that has medium/high COVID-19 levels in all its counties
Quote: EvenBobthe CDC wants to bring back mask mandates.
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You said that twice. Source? I couldn't find anything. If so, that would be real news.
Quote: EvenBobBill Clinton and half my wife's extended family now have covid but no worries. Our fearless leader said a few weeks ago that the pandemic was over even though the CDC wants to bring back mask mandates.
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Any chance that Bill Clinton might have infected your wife?
Quote: gordonm888Quote: EvenBobBill Clinton and half my wife's extended family now have covid but no worries. Our fearless leader said a few weeks ago that the pandemic was over even though the CDC wants to bring back mask mandates.
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Any chance that Bill Clinton might have infected your wife?
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Are you saying EvenBob is married to Monica Lewinsky?
I also ran into King Coffey here. I was surprised he remembered me. (We both played the same party 25 years ago.)
Quote: MichaelBluejayI’m visiting someone in the ER with some unexplained pain. I just saw a nurse yell at someone n triage, “You got COVID! Put this mask on!”
I also ran into King Coffey here. I was surprised he remembered me. (We both played the same party 25 years ago.)
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I enjoyed him in Coming to America.]
Masks could return by the end of the month.
Masks could return as COVID cases continue rising in Los Angeles County - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjU-f0spxYs
Los Angeles County reports 10,089 new coronavirus cases during the weekend, up 86% from last week
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
Quote: ChumpChangeUSA to hit 100 million COVID-19 cases soon, beating out every other country on the planet. Set to hit 1.1 million deaths by the end of the year.
Only if you actually believe China and India numbers.
