Coronavirus math
Quote: gordonm888Millimeter waves used in 5g are completely absorbed by tissue but only penetrate to about 0.5 mm.
I couldn't find an answer on google whether skin cancer can start from the surface of the skin. I know cancer can generally start almost anywhere though.
Edit - generally wherever there is cell division I imagine.
Quote: darkozWell I will take your word since you lay out good credentials
But the current theory is Coronavirus is a product of the 5G towers. You aren't endorsing that, correct?
Whoops! DO, did I miss the post where you give references to document the current theory?
5G effects killing single-cell life? Hard to believe, but I dunno. Like DO, I'll take Gordon's word. A link or two would sure be great. The news is all over both sides, as far as I can tell.
My latest horror moment came from the recent reports of research suggesting an imminent collapse of all life in the ocean. I couldn't find the story I saw a few days earlier, but here's a Guardian story on the subject. The now-missing story commented that recent research in the field shows greater acidification and higher temperatures than predicted by rosier environmental models, and accelerating fast enough to trigger the collapse within a decade.
Quote: Ocean Climate Chaos...{W}e are rapidly reaching the limits of the oceans’ absorptive capacity as our pillage of marine life is disrupting vital ecosystems and the natural carbon cycle.
Seems I saw stories recently about bird populations declining in Britain, like 60% in a few years (cannot recall exact percent). Amphibians dying everywhere. Invasive plant species invading as suitable habitats change.
Did we really go and break the whole doggone world? Is Humpty-Dumpty so shattered that all the Kings' horses and all the Queens' men cannot set it to rights? To me, it looks that way more and more. If that's the case, we better not forget that the pandemic is only one of an (apparently) increasing number of earth-shattering problems. That is, if we can first end the pandemic.
Analysing the Dangerous 5G VIRUS "WEAPON SYSTEM" - Anthony Steele EXPOSED! - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM_aUduXK-U
Microwave radiation from cell tower measured by EMF meter - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ewv3uXg250
How Much Radiation Are You Getting From Your Phone? - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKRTyEWj-EA
https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/6/21209363/uk-5g-towers-burning-coronavirus-conspiracy-theory-arson-attacks-carrier-response
That’s bats*#t insane. Crazy what some people will believe.Quote: darkozHere Luckyphow
https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/6/21209363/uk-5g-towers-burning-coronavirus-conspiracy-theory-arson-attacks-carrier-response
Quote: unJonThat’s bats*#t insane. Crazy what some people will believe.
Yeah guys.
I have been Fielding multiple texts from friends and family asking me if it's true (I am honored to be a de facto myth debunker)
I was aware of these stories so assumed that was what Gordon was discussing when he mentioned 5g health concerns. This is a Covid thread after all
Perhaps I got a few conversations crossed.
Here is another story that explains two different Covid-19 5g theories
https://www.bbc.com/news/52168096
Quote: darkozYeah guys.
I have been Fielding multiple texts from friends and family asking me if it's true (I am honored to be a de facto myth debunker)
I was aware of these stories so assumed that was what Gordon was discussing when he mentioned 5g health concerns. This is a Covid thread after all
Perhaps I got a few conversations crossed.
Here is another story that explains two different Covid-19 5g theories
https://www.bbc.com/news/52168096
I heard the 5g theory.
Idk what to say except. The coronavirus spreaded very quickly to islands like papua new guinea fiji island Caribbean islands. I dont see a 5g on those islands. But people fly around. To add more.
Some think a portion of the current vaccines may be infected. Which could explain so many confirmed single infections across the world. Live virus nasal vaccine was introduced in june 2003. Since the virus is live, it would be contagious until your body destroys it
Quote: darkozWell I will take your word since you lay out good credentials
But the current theory is Coronavirus is a product of the 5G towers. You aren't endorsing that, correct?
No, I'm not, I don't see how that could be possible. But it is at least remotely possible that 5G waves might make transmission and infection of the virus (when airborne) a bit more efficient -not a shred of evidence from testing but at least its a hypothesis that cannot be instantly dismissed without someone thinking about it and perhaps studying it.
vicious, racist attacks on those with Asian heritage are occuring in the U.S.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/12/magazine/asian-american-discrimination-coronavirus.html
Quote: SanchoPanzaThen why are the supplemental hospitals so underused?
"'As of Friday, fewer than 100 of the more than 1,000 beds at the Javits Center were staffed by federal medical personnel, according to a spokesperson for the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.
As of Sunday, the Navy ship had treated about 40 patients, most of whom were recovering from emergency surgeries conducted at hospitals on land."
NPR
Both federal facilities were specifically designated as NON-Covid-19 facilities and only accepting tested-negative patients. That changed recently, as they were no help with the actual overflow. The local situation has leveled off to some extent, and anyone who has any hope of survival outside the hospitals is still not being admitted, with no routine procedures, or outpatient treatment, or home quarantine, instead.
Also, last week but not necessarily continuing now (not sure if they're still doing this) patients who "died" (like heart attacks, strokes, etc) and could not be immediately resuscitated on site, rather than being brought in to hospitals during active CPR/ventilation/life support (standard care), were being called dead in the field and taken to a morgue instead.
The supplementals you mention were also very late to the surge - had they accepted Covid patients from their first day operational, they would have many more patients now. It's logistics. That was a critical couple of weeks they didn't admit covids.
I understand it never really did, on any topic. Too political.Quote: SOOPOOThanks! Buttttt...... I'm not sure the WHO has a lot (or any?) credibility now!
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For those interested in concoctions, some people have taken Plague Water recipes from the 1700s and re-created them.
If you think of Leadbelly's Goodnight Irene, that Sweet Corney must have been good stuff for poor people living in swamps to take, but I can't find a reliable source for the recipe.
Quote: DeMangoHere is a relevant math question. I am interested in state by state daily numbers, new cases, deaths, to measure the curves locally. Which site had reliable data?
The New York Times is maintaining a dataset (https://github.com/nytimes/covid-19-data) with everything you're looking for. It gets updated daily.
USA originally thought the 2009 swine flu came from Asia. But later discovered it came from america.
Quote: jjjooogggMost diseases are named after cities. I can think of 2 after countries, the Spanish flu and french pox. Both were incorrect of origin. Both were during wars.
USA originally thought the 2009 swine flu came from Asia. But later discovered it came from america.
So we should have called it The Mexican Flu! (pig farm near Veracruz)
None of that deals with the real news of the day: New York reported no new cases of Covid-19.Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: SanchoPanzaThen why are the supplemental hospitals so underused?
"'As of Friday, fewer than 100 of the more than 1,000 beds at the Javits Center were staffed by federal medical personnel, according to a spokesperson for the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.
As of Sunday, the Navy ship had treated about 40 patients, most of whom were recovering from emergency surgeries conducted at hospitals on land."
NPR
Both federal facilities were specifically designated as NON-Covid-19 facilities and only accepting tested-negative patients. That changed recently, as they were no help with the actual overflow. The local situation has leveled off to some extent, and anyone who has any hope of survival outside the hospitals is still not being admitted, with no routine procedures, or outpatient treatment, or home quarantine, instead.
Also, last week but not necessarily continuing now (not sure if they're still doing this) patients who "died" (like heart attacks, strokes, etc) and could not be immediately resuscitated on site, rather than being brought in to hospitals during active CPR/ventilation/life support (standard care), were being called dead in the field and taken to a morgue instead.
The supplementals you mention were also very late to the surge - had they accepted Covid patients from their first day operational, they would have many more patients now. It's logistics. That was a critical couple of weeks they didn't admit covids.
Quote: SanchoPanzaNon
None of that deals with the real news of the day: New York reported no new cases of Covid-19.Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: SanchoPanzaThen why are the supplemental hospitals so underused?
"'As of Friday, fewer than 100 of the more than 1,000 beds at the Javits Center were staffed by federal medical personnel, according to a spokesperson for the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.
As of Sunday, the Navy ship had treated about 40 patients, most of whom were recovering from emergency surgeries conducted at hospitals on land."
NPR
Both federal facilities were specifically designated as NON-Covid-19 facilities and only accepting tested-negative patients. That changed recently, as they were no help with the actual overflow. The local situation has leveled off to some extent, and anyone who has any hope of survival outside the hospitals is still not being admitted, with no routine procedures, or outpatient treatment, or home quarantine, instead.
Also, last week but not necessarily continuing now (not sure if they're still doing this) patients who "died" (like heart attacks, strokes, etc) and could not be immediately resuscitated on site, rather than being brought in to hospitals during active CPR/ventilation/life support (standard care), were being called dead in the field and taken to a morgue instead.
The supplementals you mention were also very late to the surge - had they accepted Covid patients from their first day operational, they would have many more patients now. It's logistics. That was a critical couple of weeks they didn't admit covids.
I'm sure you have a source for this.
More than the OP. "Morning Joe."Quote: billryanQuote: SanchoPanzaNon
None of that deals with the real news of the day: New York reported no new cases of Covid-19.Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: SanchoPanzaThen why are the supplemental hospitals so underused?
"'As of Friday, fewer than 100 of the more than 1,000 beds at the Javits Center were staffed by federal medical personnel, according to a spokesperson for the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.
As of Sunday, the Navy ship had treated about 40 patients, most of whom were recovering from emergency surgeries conducted at hospitals on land."
NPR
Both federal facilities were specifically designated as NON-Covid-19 facilities and only accepting tested-negative patients. That changed recently, as they were no help with the actual overflow. The local situation has leveled off to some extent, and anyone who has any hope of survival outside the hospitals is still not being admitted, with no routine procedures, or outpatient treatment, or home quarantine, instead.
Also, last week but not necessarily continuing now (not sure if they're still doing this) patients who "died" (like heart attacks, strokes, etc) and could not be immediately resuscitated on site, rather than being brought in to hospitals during active CPR/ventilation/life support (standard care), were being called dead in the field and taken to a morgue instead.
The supplementals you mention were also very late to the surge - had they accepted Covid patients from their first day operational, they would have many more patients now. It's logistics. That was a critical couple of weeks they didn't admit covids.
I'm sure you have a source for this.
Quote: SanchoPanzaMore than the OP. "Morning Joe."Quote: billryanQuote: SanchoPanzaNon
None of that deals with the real news of the day: New York reported no new cases of Covid-19.Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: SanchoPanzaThen why are the supplemental hospitals so underused?
"'As of Friday, fewer than 100 of the more than 1,000 beds at the Javits Center were staffed by federal medical personnel, according to a spokesperson for the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.
As of Sunday, the Navy ship had treated about 40 patients, most of whom were recovering from emergency surgeries conducted at hospitals on land."
NPR
Both federal facilities were specifically designated as NON-Covid-19 facilities and only accepting tested-negative patients. That changed recently, as they were no help with the actual overflow. The local situation has leveled off to some extent, and anyone who has any hope of survival outside the hospitals is still not being admitted, with no routine procedures, or outpatient treatment, or home quarantine, instead.
Also, last week but not necessarily continuing now (not sure if they're still doing this) patients who "died" (like heart attacks, strokes, etc) and could not be immediately resuscitated on site, rather than being brought in to hospitals during active CPR/ventilation/life support (standard care), were being called dead in the field and taken to a morgue instead.
The supplementals you mention were also very late to the surge - had they accepted Covid patients from their first day operational, they would have many more patients now. It's logistics. That was a critical couple of weeks they didn't admit covids.
I'm sure you have a source for this.
I've never understood people that repeat things they know aren't true.
Quote: billryan
I've never understood people that repeat things they know aren't true.
Go back a few weeks. Check your own posts about how many gonna die.
They will surely be unsourced.Quote: DeMangoGo back a few weeks. Check your own posts about how many gonna die.
More than the OP. "Morning Joe."Quote: billryanI'm sure you have a source for this.
Before accusing forum members of lying, it might be a good idea to check out what you plan to assert:Quote:I've never understood people that repeat things they know aren't true.
"As if to punctuate Cuomo’s statement, the numbers flashed on the screen then, attributed to NBC News: 196,583 CASES, 10,056 DEATHS, NO NEW CASES REPORTED TODAY."
Quote: DeMangoGo back a few weeks. Check your own posts about how many gonna die.
Please do. The numbers are pretty spot on. The 20,000th death came two days early.
Quote: SanchoPanzaMore than the OP. "Morning Joe."
Before accusing forum members of lying, it might be a good idea to check out what you plan to assert:
"As if to punctuate Cuomo’s statement, the numbers flashed on the screen then, attributed to NBC News: 196,583 CASES, 10,056 DEATHS, NO NEW CASES REPORTED TODAY."
Your "source" was only off by about 7500. Thats pretty close.
and about 43% of all deaths in the entire country are from New York
and about 73% of the deaths in New York are from NYC
NYC alone has about 31% of all of the deaths in the entire country
really, really shocking and horrible, horrible news for New Yorkers
and now, incredibly, field hospitals are being set up in Central Park
the image is from google yesterday, the numbers are a little different for today:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/15/nyregion/coronavirus-central-park-hospital-tent.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
What is your source, or don't you need any?Quote: billryanBefore accusing forum members of lying, it might be a good idea to check out what you plan to assert:
"As if to punctuate Cuomo’s statement, the numbers flashed on the screen then, attributed to NBC News: 196,583 CASES, 10,056 DEATHS, NO NEW CASES REPORTED TODAY."
Your "source" was only off by about 7500. Thats pretty close.
Quote: Keeneonehttps://covid19tracker.health.ny.gov/views/NYS-COVID19-Tracker/NYSDOHCOVID-19Tracker-Map?%3Aembed=yes&%3Atoolbar=no&%3Atabs=n
Lol, as usual
Only off by 7,177
Would you even like the world if everyone was like you? I don't think our society works with everyone being the same, everyone being afraid to spend any money. I'm not criticizing you or your habits, though they could be a little out of moderation. Just saying, you want people to be like you, but the world freezes when people are. I'm not sure how this can be dealt with.Quote: AZDuffmanLearn that you have to be better prepared. The Depression generation prepped. They kept money for an emergency, and their pantries were full. They lived fairly frugal. They reused things and knew how to get by.
Some of the Baby Boomers saw this and emulated parts of it. They saw recessions every few years. They knew to "save up" if a known bad event like a strike was on the horizon. But over the years they drifted away from the good habits.
Those born after 1977 or so never saw real bad times, never saw a really bad recession. "The Great Recession" was not that at all compared to 1982, where 100 year old industries just collapsed. There was not 20% prime rates and 15% inflation.
I have been near broke but even then I always had some emergency money to bail me out. After a brush with BK I lived like a monk for years to get out of debt and get saved up. I still live like half a monk, keeping a modest home and car. The kids on some pods I worked on, I could not believe how they spent money. It came up once and a girl told me the general attitude was "if you are deep in student loan debt you live for today since it will be forever before you get ahead."
Those people had better have learned as I am sure she was among that group that could not handle a $400 emergency. Hopefully the masses will now start copy canning at the least, and putting $15 a week aside. In 3-4 years they will be in shape to last if this kind of thing happens again.
But alas, they will not learn. A few will of course. The rest will be buying lottery tickets instead of putting emergency funds aside and eating takeaway instead of learning to make their food dollar last.
Quote: DRichI am getting to the point that I wish everybody would die so we don't have to hear anymore about this.
Is that the anger, depression or acceptance stage?
Quote: DRichI am getting to the point that I wish everybody would die so we don't have to hear anymore about this.
I would guess you are a fan of the late Don Rickles.
"Struggling is hard because you never know what's at the end of the tunnel."
DRickles
Quote: KeeneoneI would guess you are a fan of the late Don Rickles.
"Struggling is hard because you never know what's at the end of the tunnel."
DRickles
Does anyone remember an early 80s low budget movie where the main character wants to jump in front of a truck and end it all. He sees the headlights and jumps into the path but its two motorcycles, not a truck and they blow past him?
But I digress..
Quote: KeeneoneI would guess you are a fan of the late Don Rickles.
"Struggling is hard because you never know what's at the end of the tunnel."
DRickles
Actually, I could care less about what is at the end. I just want the end to happen.
Quote: billryanDoes anyone remember an early 80s low budget movie where the main character wants to jump in front of a truck and end it all. He sees the headlights and jumps into the path but its two motorcycles, not a truck and they blow past him?
But I digress..
Not "The End" with Burt Reynolds and Dom Deluise?
Quote: DRichActually, I could care less about what is at the end. I just want the end to happen.
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And to get back on track for the thread...
The Southern Nevada Health District has added some Covid-19 case information to its site. Including some maps. I found out I live in a bright red zip code.
https://www.southernnevadahealthdistrict.org/coronavirus#cases
Quote: Keeneone
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And to get back on track for the thread...
The Southern Nevada Health District has added some Covid-19 case information to its site. Including some maps. I found out I live in a bright red zip code.
https://www.southernnevadahealthdistrict.org/coronavirus#cases
Yeah good point
Those quarantined and healthy are yelling this isn't affecting their health. Meanwhile many are only healthy because of the quarantine
Their neighbors are dying and they may not even be aware of it
Quote: DRichActually, I could care less about what is at the end. I just want the end to happen.
It's just more of the same.
Quote: darkozNot "The End" with Burt Reynolds and Dom Deluise?
I'm thinking it was a low budget indie.
Better Off DeadQuote: billryanDoes anyone remember an early 80s low budget movie where the main character wants to jump in front of a truck and end it all. He sees the headlights and jumps into the path but its two motorcycles, not a truck and they blow past him?
But I digress..
a DAY. Theme parks closed, cruise ships
docked, no ads on ESPN because no
sports, movies not getting made or
seen, everything Disney has come to
a stand still. Some are saying people
will stay away from theme parks in
droves this year and Disney will
close them for good.
i think a lot of people cheating to still have numbers so high.
Maybe not, just disappointed.
Quote: EvenBobNYT is reporting Disney is losing $30 mil
a DAY. Theme parks closed, cruise ships
docked, no ads on ESPN because no
sports, movies not getting made or
seen, everything Disney has come to
a stand still. Some are saying people
will stay away from theme parks in
droves this year and Disney will
close them for good.
You said it's the end of Vegas
Now it's the end of Disney too?
You probably hope all entertainment ends
Quote: onenickelmiracleWould you even like the world if everyone was like you? I don't think our society works with everyone being the same, everyone being afraid to spend any money. I'm not criticizing you or your habits, though they could be a little out of moderation. Just saying, you want people to be like you, but the world freezes when people are. I'm not sure how this can be dealt with.
To be like me? In what way?
I grew up lower middle class. I always tried to save for a rainy day but instead of a rainy day I got a hurricane that left me on the edge of bankruptcy. Had to move back in with folks and pay off debt over several years. Since then I am hyper-prepped. I was told that my attitude towards going back into debt is that of a recovering heroin addict. (Told that by a recovering opiate addict!)
So I would want more people to be prepped. To be more careful with money. To buy used instead of taking out 6+ year loans on new cars. To not be on the edge. If we had more of that we would have less mile-long lines at the food bank less than a month into the crisis.
