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TheNightfly
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November 15th, 2011 at 9:10:15 AM permalink
Perhaps the point being made is that there are 2 distinct threads regarding religion. One is called "Rag on religion" and the other, this one to be precise is called "Celebrate religion here". It seems that anyone who can read would celebrate religion on this thread and rag on religion in the other thread. If you're not on this thread to celebrate religion, why are you here? Why would someone feel the need to post negative comments about religion on this thread? Not sayin', just sayin'.
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thecesspit
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November 15th, 2011 at 9:19:38 AM permalink
Because I'm a nosy bugger, and couldn't leave well enough alone :)
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
Garnabby
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November 15th, 2011 at 11:11:24 AM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

These are just musings. No one (even the best theoretical physics) has more than a clue of what actually happened before the big bang, whether other universes exist, or what the laws of physics are in those universe.


Oh come now, surely you exaggerate? Maybe what has never had a viable academic future here is the so-called mathematics of gambling? Maybe that's why the ancient Greeks just ignored it? And the reason that the "casino industry" has picked up on it in earnest. It does nothing for the gambler, but "justifies" everything for both. Anyway, a true existentialist wouldn't bother to try to categorize anything in terms of good physicists, and bad ideas; if comment at all. No idea is of any such use if, and when, the only basic (unproved) belief is that there aren't any others. On the contrary, i think it's summary analyses like this which aren't even musings.
Quote: boymimbo

We all live our day-to-day lives in our Newtonian universe with a little help from Einstein. Our point of view is Newtonian and it's difficult for most of us to even conceive of the initial expansion of the universe that was the big bang and the laws of physics in place at the beginning of the universe."


Enough with the wanna-be, Sheldon Cooper-Pi un-nerd stuff. It's, "99% perspiration, and 1% inspiration". Flitting from one gimmick, let alone career, to another only takes its tolls on one's faculty for critical thinking, and quiet-zest for seeing something special through to its logical conclusion(s). Cling to your "roots", stay with what you (think you) really know. Then who knows, maybe the "gang" might thusly try to mock you someday.
Why bet at all, if you can be sure? Anyway, what constitutes a "good bet"? - The best slots-game in town; a sucker's edge; or some gray-area blackjack-stunts? (P.S. God doesn't even have to exist to be God.)
FrGamble
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November 15th, 2011 at 1:39:42 PM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

Because I'm a nosy bugger, and couldn't leave well enough alone :)



I admit I posted on that other thread about religion too because I couldn't resist. If we all posted on separate threads I wouldn't be able to talk to my friend Nareed, aka the unmovable object.
Nareed
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November 15th, 2011 at 3:03:59 PM permalink
Quote: FrGamble

If we all posted on separate threads I wouldn't be able to talk to my friend Nareed, aka the unmovable object.



Aw, that's very kind of you. If we ever meet, remember I owe you a token of gratitude for the help you gave me with my work, however unwitting it was <g>
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Mosca
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November 15th, 2011 at 4:31:27 PM permalink
Vive le difference, I say.
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EvenBob
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November 15th, 2011 at 4:35:54 PM permalink
Quote: FrGamble

You will find that many of the sins attributed to the Church are sins against the Church's offical teachings that were perpetrated by even some of its leaders.



This is the same defense the German's used after WWII. Hey,
don't blame us, it was those wascally Nazi's that did all the
damage, we had no idea what was going on.

The truth is, the real truth, not the spin the Church puts on
everything, is, the Catholic's for most of their history believed
that conversion was to be achieved thru any means necessary.
The repression of scientific thought was essential if the masses
were to be kept ignorant and malleable. When it all crumbled
around them, it was time for a new strategy. Hey, we're not
that bad, don't blame us for a few bad apples. The modern
form of confession was started during the Inquisition as a way
to weed out the heretics, and gather info on the enemy. It
worked so well they never got rid of it. A priest can't forgive
you for your sins, only god can do that. If you believe in that
stuff..
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odiousgambit
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November 15th, 2011 at 5:47:13 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

The modern form of confession was started during the Inquisition as a way to weed out the heretics, and gather info on the enemy.



A statement like that needs to be backed up.
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
EvenBob
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November 15th, 2011 at 7:10:45 PM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

A statement like that needs to be backed up.



I read it somewhere. Confession was around before the
Inquisition, but the present form, where they sit in a booth,
and the priest can take notes unseen by the confessor, comes
from the Inquisition era.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
TheNightfly
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November 15th, 2011 at 8:55:01 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I read it somewhere.

There. If that doesn't satisfy you, what more do you want? Bob doesn't need to back anything up. He reads a lot of stuff.
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