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December 25th, 2023 at 8:37:30 AM permalink
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The comic book forum I frequent runs charity drives regularly.
Last week, someone came looking for information about a member who sold some books but hadn't delivered them. We quickly discovered the seller, a freelance artist, had a stroke two weeks ago and is in rehab. Meanwhile, his finances are horrible and he got hit with several thousand dollars in deductibles. To make it worse, many of the deductibles must be paid again in January.
Three people started fundraisers for him and in two days they've raised $7,000 in cash, and people have committed to over $17,000.
I've never met the seller, nor done business with him but that forum takes care of their own.
I can't recall any such efforts here. I wonder how successful it would be.
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Grassroots things like that work. Not money but we had a woman had some kind of cancer or something was laying her up for a month or more. She did not have the PTO to cover it. CEO of the company (sounds more impressive than it is, about 150 employees) sends an email telling us about it. I reply back asking if maybe some of us could donate our PTO time and explained I heard of it happening elsewhere. In about 5 minutes he takes up the idea and says company will match it. I forget if I got an attaboy or not but I gladly gave a day and I did not even know her. I forget how much time she got but IIRC it covered her. I felt good having done something.

Aforesaid CEO could be a real piece of work when he wanted to.


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We've passed $30,000 and just as importantly, a lurker has stepped forward and says he can help expedite the mans SSI applications.
We've contacted The Heroes Initiative, a charity for destitute former comic book artists, but he doesn't seem to qualify.
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December 25th, 2023 at 8:45:39 AM permalink
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For some reason I received (really nice) socks from wife, her daughter, and her daughter’s girlfriend! They must have at one point bemoaned my sock selections.

I got away with calling Costa Rica trip Xmas gift to wife and her daughters.

I’m Jewish so my kids get nada from me…. butttt….. wife bought them tons of shit anyways….

Merry Xmas to all that celebrate…..

I used to work almost every Xmas. Would ‘trade’ a Saturday in the summer for it. A win-win for me and the Christian!
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Entertainment company I work for sometimes had an annual Christmas Eve account two casino games. One guy did it was Jewish. He kind of joked that he just told his wife he had a gig don’t hold dinner. He liked doing it so it all worked out.
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December 25th, 2023 at 8:48:10 AM permalink
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For some reason I received (really nice) socks from wife, her daughter, and her daughter’s girlfriend! They must have at one point bemoaned my sock selections.

I got away with calling Costa Rica trip Xmas gift to wife and her daughters.

I’m Jewish so my kids get nada from me…. butttt….. wife bought them tons of shit anyways….

Merry Xmas to all that celebrate…..

I used to work almost every Xmas. Would ‘trade’ a Saturday in the summer for it. A win-win for me and the Christian!
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Do people schedule operations for Christmas? I realize the whole world doesn't celebrate it, but I'd be reluctant to have a procedure on a day when the hospital has a skeleton crew.
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No ELECTIVE scheduled cases on Xmas. But first half of career was at tertiary care hospital so emergency CABG, emergency craniotomy, and also did OB there. So epidurals, C Sections…

Second half was at Level I Trauma center. So in addition to real emergencies like gunshots, stabbings, serious MVAs, with did pseudo emergency broken bone fixations…. Not elective, but better sooner than later.

But in general, tended to be lighter workload than any other day of the year.
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December 26th, 2023 at 6:20:03 AM permalink
December 26th should be remembered as one of the darkest days in US history, yet I suspect few here are even aware of it.

In 1862, Minnesota was one of the newest states in the Union and was the frontier between what was considered civilization and Indian territory. White settlers were pushing the Dakota peoples off their hunting grounds, and the US government had pledged to see the Peoples were well fed.
The US was at war with itself, as the southern states rebelled, and with the Federal Army growing by many magnitudes from under 15,000 to almost 300,000, food that was promised to the Natives was shipped east for the Army.
An incident involving a few youths raiding a ranch to secure beef for the tribes was blown out of proportion, and a short but deadly war broke out between the Dakota people, the US Calvary, and a miltia of settlers. In little over a month, it was all over. Half the Dakota people escaped by fleeing to Canada, and the rest gave up.
Disregarding promises made, the US arrested some 3,000 warriors, and rather than treat them as Prisoners of War, they held secret tribunals where over three hundred were sentenced to death. President Lincoln realized hanging 300 people would be seen as genocide so he ordered a review of the cases and decided only those guilty of rape would be hung. When the residents of Minnesota heard this, they threatened their own rebellion and an armed mob tried to force their way into the depot the prisoners were being held in.
The cases were reopened and 38 men were , seemingly randomly, sentenced to death while the others got long prison terms.
On December 26th, 1862, a crowd of several thousand white settlers watched as 38 Dakota warriors were marched to a specially built scaffold and simultaneously hung.
Peace returned to the Plains, and more importantly, thousands of Minnesota residents joined the US Army. In fact, in 1863, Minnesota had the highest percentage of its male population enlisted of all the northern states. It turned out that one of the men hung had had his sentence changed to life in prison, but he somehow ended up on the scaffold and was hung anyway.
The peace was shortlived and after the government put down the southern insurrection, it sent tens of thousands of its troops to the Plains and fought a war of extermination that killed hundreds of troopers and thousands of natives before the last tribes were pacified some thirty years after this incident.
The US Government has never apologized for this, nor issued pardons to the men they hung.


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December 26th, 2023 at 6:22:41 AM permalink
In 2006, A Dakota Healer recreated the 320-mile journey these warriors made from their surrender to their execution. Now, every Christmas week, dozens of Native Americans gather at the St Joseph Indian School and ride horses, run or walk the route in the dead of winter. Originally the marchers were denied permits and threatened with arrest for the march, but now the various states provide police escorts and logistical support. Thousands walk part of the route, but only a few dozen complete the march. Few in the media cover the annual event.
The 2023 ride was canceled, and the future of the event is up in the air after its founder passed away.
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December 26th, 2023 at 10:46:39 AM permalink
Since today is Boxing day.

Joe Jeanette was knocked down 27 times in a boxing match and came back to win.
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December 26th, 2023 at 11:13:30 AM permalink
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Since today is Boxing day.

Joe Jeanette was knocked down 27 times in a boxing match and came back to win.
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I had a bouncer once that was a pro boxer. He was Austrian and came to NY to study with Gil Clancy. He didn't have a work visa so he used a friend's id and we never knew his real name. Somehow, after about two years, someone found him on the internet and his pro record was something like 6 wins and 74 losses. Mr Clancy convinced him to try wrestling school but he hated that. He tried bare-knuckle fighting but found there was more money in security work. He met a girl from rural Pennsylvania who sent him money for a bus ticket and he vanished from my life.
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December 26th, 2023 at 12:56:52 PM permalink
Last time I was at the airport I saw an Amish man. Not only was he getting ready to fly but he was being driven on a pedestrian cart...and we was using a cell phone.

That was a trifecta of unexpected activity to my mind.
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December 26th, 2023 at 1:02:19 PM permalink
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Since today is Boxing day.

Joe Jeanette was knocked down 27 times in a boxing match and came back to win.
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the fight lasted 3 and one half hours and went 49 rounds
his opponent, Sam McVey was knocked down 19 times and could not rise from his stool in the 49th round
after the fight he was declared "The World Colored Heavyweight Champion"

according to Ken Burns Jeanette faced the great Jack Johnson 10 times and lost twice, won once, had 2 draws and 5 "no decisions"

after Jack Johnson became the first black World Heavyweight Champion he refused to fight Jeanette again

although officially Jeanette is documented to have fought 166 tmes, he claimed he had many more - close to 400

the pic shows one of McVey's knockdowns of Jeanette in that legendary fight



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December 27th, 2023 at 10:21:31 AM permalink
Every once in a while I wonder if the same person shot JFK and Tupac.
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December 27th, 2023 at 11:49:13 AM permalink
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Every once in a while I wonder if the same person shot JFK and Tupac.
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That's okay. The other day I was thinking JFK shot Tupac. That would certainly clear up a lot.
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December 27th, 2023 at 12:57:42 PM permalink
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Since today is Boxing day.

Joe Jeanette was knocked down 27 times in a boxing match and came back to win.
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This is my fave lately. This old boxer had to be pushing 70 beats the crap out of this kid in his twenties. Joe Rogan talks about it and shows the video.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/avBPCS6A8kg
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December 27th, 2023 at 1:42:50 PM permalink
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Since today is Boxing day.

Joe Jeanette was knocked down 27 times in a boxing match and came back to win.
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This is my fave lately. This old boxer had to be pushing 70 beats the crap out of this kid in his twenties. Joe Rogan talks about it and shows the video.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/avBPCS6A8kg
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OK, for "a little old for this, ain't ya?", here's Charles Bronson. We old guys like this.

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December 27th, 2023 at 3:50:56 PM permalink
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Since today is Boxing day.

Joe Jeanette was knocked down 27 times in a boxing match and came back to win.
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This is my fave lately. This old boxer had to be pushing 70 beats the crap out of this kid in his twenties. Joe Rogan talks about it and shows the video.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/avBPCS6A8kg
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OK, for "a little old for this, ain't ya?", here's Charles Bronson. We old guys like this.


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Charles Bronson was an incredible natural athlete. He was 54 years old when that movie was made and look at the condition he's in. Rock solid, 0 body fat. On movie sets when they took breaks he would sometimes stand off to the side away from everybody with his hands behind his back staring off into the distance perfectly still, like a statue, and he'd stay that way for a couple hours sometimes.
He was a strange guy, had way too many quirks and idiosyncrasies to list here. Part of it could be he spent the years between age 10 and his teen years working in a coal mine. And he got into huffing at age 9 and kept at it his whole life, it is part of the reason for his death. Very strange dude..
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December 28th, 2023 at 9:19:06 AM permalink
I predict a day when your average household will 3d print a new part for their car, put it on, and save 2/3rds of the usual cost getting it fixed at a body shop They may even use cheap plastic.

And then will come the lawsuits. lawsuits from body shops. Lawsuits about using cheap plastic and safety issues.

And that's just the beginning of possibilities for many products. Some will probably be disassembled to scan their parts. . Amd Ai will enhance the process.
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December 28th, 2023 at 9:23:27 AM permalink
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I predict a day when your average household will 3d print a new part for their car, put it on, and save 2/3rds of the usual cost getting it fixed at a body shop They may even use cheap plastic.

And then will come the lawsuits. lawsuits from body shops. Lawsuits about using cheap plastic and safety issues.

And that's just the beginning of possibilities for many products. Some will probably be disassembled to scan their parts. . Amd Ai will enhance the process.
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Not households, the 3D printer and supplies will cost too much. Perhaps a local body shop makes it work.
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December 28th, 2023 at 9:40:56 AM permalink
I bought a 3-D printer last month for $39.99. It's two generations behind the current ones, but cost $700 three years ago. The day is rapidly approaching where every house that wants one will have one, and people will wonder how they got along without one.
Temu is advertising $25 3-D printers, but I don't know anything more than that.
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December 28th, 2023 at 9:40:57 AM permalink
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Not households, the 3D printer and supplies will cost too much. Perhaps a local body shop makes it work.
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Auto shops making their own parts and bypassing the middleman has been going on for 100 years. This will just be a new twist on it. My auto shop guy did that all the time, jerry-rigged a small part and then charged the customer full price for a new one. Like they would ever know the difference.
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December 28th, 2023 at 9:47:17 AM permalink
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I bought a 3-D printer last month for $39.99. It's two generations behind the current ones, but cost $700 three years ago. The day is rapidly approaching where every house that wants one will have one, and people will wonder how they got along without one.
Temu is advertising $25 3-D printers, but I don't know anything more than that.
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Last time I messed around with a 3-D printer was maybe 5 years ago and it was extremely finicky and a pain in the butt to set up and use.

What would the average person need one for in their everyday life? I can't even think of how useful it would be outside of very specific jobs and some hobbyists.
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December 28th, 2023 at 10:23:36 AM permalink
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I bought a 3-D printer last month for $39.99. It's two generations behind the current ones, but cost $700 three years ago. The day is rapidly approaching where every house that wants one will have one, and people will wonder how they got along without one.
Temu is advertising $25 3-D printers, but I don't know anything more than that.
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Last time I messed around with a 3-D printer was maybe 5 years ago and it was extremely finicky and a pain in the butt to set up and use.

What would the average person need one for in their everyday life? I can't even think of how useful it would be outside of very specific jobs and some hobbyists.
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Why would an everyday person want a computer in their home was the burning question in the 1970s.
Who would want a portable telephone was the question of the 1980s.
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December 28th, 2023 at 10:48:47 AM permalink
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Not households, the 3D printer and supplies will cost too much. Perhaps a local body shop makes it work.
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Auto shops making their own parts and bypassing the middleman has been going on for 100 years. This will just be a new twist on it. My auto shop guy did that all the time, jerry-rigged a small part and then charged the customer full price for a new one. Like they would ever know the difference.
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Some parts they may be able to make but most auto parts are not something a local shop can reproduce. Body shops wanting to do this would more just use stolen parts.
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December 28th, 2023 at 2:57:17 PM permalink
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Why would an everyday person want a computer in their home was the burning question in the 1970s.
Who would want a portable telephone was the question of the 1980s.
Why would anyone buy water at a store when it comes out of your faucet for free?
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Just because computers and cells phones ended up being useful to the average person doesn't mean 3-D printers will be. Why would the average person need one in their home for everyday use? Why would I need to be printing up tiny little plastic pieces on a daily/weekly basis? It's not filling any kind of niche or making anything more efficient (like computers and cell phones did) unless, like I said, it's specifically needed for a job or hobby purpose.
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December 28th, 2023 at 4:10:27 PM permalink
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Why would an everyday person want a computer in their home was the burning question in the 1970s.
Who would want a portable telephone was the question of the 1980s.
Why would anyone buy water at a store when it comes out of your faucet for free?
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Just because computers and cells phones ended up being useful to the average person doesn't mean 3-D printers will be. Why would the average person need one in their home for everyday use? Why would I need to be printing up tiny little plastic pieces on a daily/weekly basis? It's not filling any kind of niche or making anything more efficient (like computers and cell phones did) unless, like I said, it's specifically needed for a job or hobby purpose.
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I see what you are saying but we don't know what 3D printers will be capable of in the future. There is no reason to believe it will just be plastic.

The first thing that I think of is printing tools. If I need a screwdriver or wrench that I don't have it would be much easier to just print one than to go to a store and get one.
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December 28th, 2023 at 4:45:23 PM permalink
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Why would an everyday person want a computer in their home was the burning question in the 1970s.
Who would want a portable telephone was the question of the 1980s.
Why would anyone buy water at a store when it comes out of your faucet for free?
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Just because computers and cells phones ended up being useful to the average person doesn't mean 3-D printers will be. Why would the average person need one in their home for everyday use? Why would I need to be printing up tiny little plastic pieces on a daily/weekly basis? It's not filling any kind of niche or making anything more efficient (like computers and cell phones did) unless, like I said, it's specifically needed for a job or hobby purpose.
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I see what you are saying but we don't know what 3D printers will be capable of in the future. There is no reason to believe it will just be plastic.

The first thing that I think of is printing tools. If I need a screwdriver or wrench that I don't have it would be much easier to just print one than to go to a store and get one.
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I think for most screwdriver type things, it should be easier to keep a supply of .250" hexagonal stock and cut a bit on a CNC rig. (You probably already have a handle to fit.)

Maybe I'm wrong; maybe the additive processes produce parts of sufficient strength.

Star Trek style replicators would be cool. I don't expect to see them in my lifetime.
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December 28th, 2023 at 5:26:27 PM permalink
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December 28th, 2023 at 6:33:41 PM permalink
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Why would an everyday person want a computer in their home was the burning question in the 1970s.
Who would want a portable telephone was the question of the 1980s.
Why would anyone buy water at a store when it comes out of your faucet for free?
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Just because computers and cells phones ended up being useful to the average person doesn't mean 3-D printers will be. Why would the average person need one in their home for everyday use? Why would I need to be printing up tiny little plastic pieces on a daily/weekly basis? It's not filling any kind of niche or making anything more efficient (like computers and cell phones did) unless, like I said, it's specifically needed for a job or hobby purpose.
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Nikola Tesla’s alternating current was not immediately accepted but is now the standard for electricity supply. Alexander Graham Bell’s telephone was initially seen as having ‘obvious limitations’ and was described as 'hardly more than a toy. Critics of television thought it was a commercial and financial impossibility..
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December 28th, 2023 at 6:41:29 PM permalink
I asked Bing ai what people are currently using 3d printers at home for.

Sure, here are some ways people are finding 3D printers useful at home:

1. **Creating small, useful items**: This includes coasters, decorations, lampshades, stationery, and small kitchen tools³.
2. **Home improvement and repairs**: If a small plastic part snaps or you lose a specific screw for something important, 3D printing can be the perfect solution².
3. **Making custom tools**: 3D printing allows for custom-made tools that may be very difficult to find or to order².
4. **Printing useful kitchen implements**: If you have the wrong size measuring cups, a recipe could completely fail; if your favorite plastic spatula breaks and you are unable to find a replacement, printing the perfect one is simple².
5. **Making toys and gadgets**: 3D printers can be used to make toys and even gadgets that are useful for every smart home².
6. **Creating custom home décor**: With a 3D printer, you are able to design and print custom home decorations, lamps, shelves, clocks, vases, and other elements that are unique to their home and are found nowhere else².
7. **Making phone cases, towel racks, safety razors, and almost everything**: You do not need any special tools for printing different items⁴.

These are just a few examples. The possibilities with 3D printing at home are vast and only limited by one's imagination¹²³⁴.

Source: Conversation with Bing, 12/28/2023
(1) Why using 3D printing in your smart home is so useful. https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/11/25/why-using-3d-printing-in-your-smart-home-is-so-useful/.
(2) What Can You Do With A 3D Printer At Home (40 Ideas). https://3dprintingforge.com/what-can-you-do-with-a-3d-printer-at-home-40-ideas/.
(3) 10 Reasons Why You Should Own a 3D Printer for Home Use. https://pick3dprinter.com/3d-printer-for-home/.
(4) 30 Useful 3D Printing Ideas and Projects for Your Home - MUO. https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/30-useful-ways-3d-printing-used-home/.
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December 29th, 2023 at 2:41:46 AM permalink
I can see wanting something made and having no idea how to give the printer the instructions to make it?
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December 29th, 2023 at 4:11:00 AM permalink
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December 29th, 2023 at 4:15:33 AM permalink
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I can see wanting something made and having no idea how to give the printer the instructions to make it?
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That's where ai comes in. We already are getting more and more text prompts for doing more and more without a specific technical skill or advanced knowledge. I assume this will be improved also as time goes on.
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December 29th, 2023 at 4:18:45 AM permalink
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I can see wanting something made and having no idea how to give the printer the instructions to make it?
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That will be a big problem in the beginning but as time goes on there will be plenty of files to download that will do what most people want.
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December 29th, 2023 at 5:15:53 AM permalink
When I buy my 3D printer I am just going to have it make 3D printers
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December 29th, 2023 at 8:00:20 AM permalink
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When I buy my 3D printer I am just going to have it make 3D printers
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I'm using mine to make money. I'm lining up a couple of unpaid interns as we speak. I'm waiting for Glowforge to have a sale.
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December 29th, 2023 at 8:15:04 AM permalink
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When I buy my 3D printer I am just going to have it make 3D printers
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I'll have mine make self-replicating 3d printers that go right into action
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When I buy my 3D printer I am just going to have it make 3D printers
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I'll have mine make self-replicating 3d printers that go right into action
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In the future, I'm sure our AI robot overlords will use them to construct more robot overlords!
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December 29th, 2023 at 8:33:50 AM permalink
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When I buy my 3D printer I am just going to have it make 3D printers
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I'm going to clone myself and have him take care of the 3d printer stuff. He may clone himself and put that clone to work for him.
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December 29th, 2023 at 11:07:24 AM permalink
I went on a national pizza chain web site and wanted to order six pies. When I went to check out, I noticed a 15% gratuity. I tried to erase it, but a note popped up saying orders of 5 or more items require a mandatory 15% tip. This is for a pick-up order.
I logged out, went back in, and placed two orders for three pies each.
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December 29th, 2023 at 11:58:05 AM permalink
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I went on a national pizza chain web site and wanted to order six pies. When I went to check out, I noticed a 15% gratuity. I tried to erase it, but a note popped up saying orders of 5 or more items require a mandatory 15% tip. This is for a pick-up order.
I logged out, went back in, and placed two orders for three pies each.
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I’m hoping you were not eating alone….
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December 29th, 2023 at 1:20:36 PM permalink
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I went on a national pizza chain web site and wanted to order six pies. When I went to check out, I noticed a 15% gratuity. I tried to erase it, but a note popped up saying orders of 5 or more items require a mandatory 15% tip. This is for a pick-up order.
I logged out, went back in, and placed two orders for three pies each.
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Did you go on a break from your diet?
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I went on a national pizza chain web site and wanted to order six pies. When I went to check out, I noticed a 15% gratuity. I tried to erase it, but a note popped up saying orders of 5 or more items require a mandatory 15% tip. This is for a pick-up order.
I logged out, went back in, and placed two orders for three pies each.
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Did you go on a break from your diet?
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December 30th, 2023 at 7:15:40 AM permalink
New Los Angeles-based station Channel 1 is set to launch AI-generated anchors at the beginning of next year.

Preview of the world's first AI-powered news network
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December 30th, 2023 at 7:42:40 AM permalink
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New Los Angeles-based station Channel 1 is set to launch AI-generated anchors at the beginning of next year.

Preview of the world's first AI-powered news network
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Those commentators in this video are all AI generated? That's downright scary, I had no idea they were that far along. This is going to be nothing but trouble.
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I had a play with ChatGPT, yesterday. I asked it to give me a table of 10 simulated baccarat hands where I was wagerin $100 alternatively on Player and Banker.
It generated a neat table that superficially looked correct, but I noticed it failed to charge 5% commission on Banker wins. I pointed that out and it apologised and redid the results.
Then I noticed it treated Tie results as a loss, so I corrected it again and apologised for the error.
I asked it to extend the result set to 100 wagers, but when it did so, I noticed repetition in the results. So I corrected it again and told it that results must be indepedent and i did not expect to see repetition of results. Again it apologised and corrected it's error.
I then asked it HOW it had generated my simulated results and it told me that it had taken random outcomes based on the three accepted probabilities of Banker, Player, Tie. Fair enough that it had not in any way simulated a shoe of cards,
There were other errors where it decided to name game outcome columns and 'wager type' column, but they both got populated by what I considered 'Wager outcome'

I asked it to provide a transcript in a format suitable to posting into a blog post, and it did something rather odd. The transcript was not a transcript at all, it was a 'report' of our conversation, along with some dialogue, observations and conclusions. I asked it to generate some more results and it did so, again 'forgetting' to account for commissions.

It was an amusing and thought provoking experiment where I felt similar to when dealing with contractors through 'fiverr', where some implicit rules were got totally wrong, some explicit rules were overlooked or ignored, and where all work had to be checked. Presentation was very good, but obedience to rule sets was weak.

I'll revisit the use of ChatGPT as a tester and demonstrator of systems, rather that simulating results programattically myself.
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December 30th, 2023 at 8:51:18 AM permalink
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I’d rather they work on getting anchors with natural intelligence.
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December 30th, 2023 at 9:30:14 AM permalink
They're just gonna tell you "if it bleeds it leads" then there are updates on the day's 3 mass shootings in the city. Oh, that's so 1990's. What's on the news now?
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December 30th, 2023 at 9:40:52 AM permalink
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They're just gonna tell you "if it bleeds it leads" then there are updates on the day's 3 mass shootings in the city. Oh, that's so 1990's. What's on the news now?
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My question is who's going to decide what's on the news. Who's going to write the new stories because as it stands right now ai doesn't write with a crap. I hear that complaint all the time that it's spelling is perfect it's sentence structure was perfect but it's writing sucks. So if humans have to choose the stories and humans have to do the writing, all they're doing is saving a fortune by not having to pay a talking head a million dollars a year. As it stands right now and somebody was just talking about it today, ai constantly lies about everything, it just makes stuff up out of whole cloth and nobody knows why.
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December 30th, 2023 at 10:45:39 AM permalink
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I had a play with ChatGPT, yesterday. I asked it to give me a table of 10 simulated baccarat hands where I was wagerin $100 alternatively on Player and Banker.
It generated a neat table that superficially looked correct, but I noticed it failed to charge 5% commission on Banker wins. I pointed that out and it apologised and redid the results.
Then I noticed it treated Tie results as a loss, so I corrected it again and apologised for the error.
I asked it to extend the result set to 100 wagers, but when it did so, I noticed repetition in the results. So I corrected it again and told it that results must be indepedent and i did not expect to see repetition of results. Again it apologised and corrected it's error.
I then asked it HOW it had generated my simulated results and it told me that it had taken random outcomes based on the three accepted probabilities of Banker, Player, Tie. Fair enough that it had not in any way simulated a shoe of cards,
There were other errors where it decided to name game outcome columns and 'wager type' column, but they both got populated by what I considered 'Wager outcome'

I asked it to provide a transcript in a format suitable to posting into a blog post, and it did something rather odd. The transcript was not a transcript at all, it was a 'report' of our conversation, along with some dialogue, observations and conclusions. I asked it to generate some more results and it did so, again 'forgetting' to account for commissions.

It was an amusing and thought provoking experiment where I felt similar to when dealing with contractors through 'fiverr', where some implicit rules were got totally wrong, some explicit rules were overlooked or ignored, and where all work had to be checked. Presentation was very good, but obedience to rule sets was weak.

I'll revisit the use of ChatGPT as a tester and demonstrator of systems, rather that simulating results programattically myself.
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Ai is like "the box of chocolates" Forest Gump quote, and sometimes like the Jeffery Goldblum "The Fly" movie where you really don't know what you're going to get.

Guess what I asked it?

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1. **Quantum Roulette**: In this game, the roulette wheel has quantum states instead of numbers. The ball can land in multiple states at once, but when you place a bet, the state collapses to a single outcome. The challenge is to predict the probabilities.

2. **Blackjack Tower**: This is a variant of blackjack where players must also build a tower with their cards. The player who gets closest to 21 without going over and has the tallest tower wins.

3. **Poker Maze**: In this game, players navigate a maze on a digital screen while playing a hand of poker. The cards are hidden throughout the maze, and players must find good cards while avoiding bad ones.

4. **Baccarat Battle**: This is a team-based version of baccarat where two teams compete against each other. The team with the highest total wins, but individual players can use special abilities to influence the game.

5. **Craps Quest**: This is a variant of craps where players go on a "quest" with each roll of the dice. Depending on the outcome, they might have to fight monsters, find treasure, or face other challenges.



I think I'll ask the Wizard to analyze the above games.
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December 30th, 2023 at 10:48:23 AM permalink
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I had a play with ChatGPT, yesterday. I asked it to give me a table of 10 simulated baccarat hands where I was wagerin $100 alternatively on Player and Banker.
It generated a neat table that superficially looked correct, but I noticed it failed to charge 5% commission on Banker wins. I pointed that out and it apologised and redid the results.
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Another play with ChatGPT, trying to have it simulate martingaling Roulette.

Though it seemed confident in it's skills, it made lots of silly mistakes.
In spite of being told how to handle the la partage rule, it initially overlooked doing so.
In spite of being given explicit wagering instructions, it saw wager results as losses that were simply wins.
It miscounted results saying things like "So, out of the 30 wagers on Black, 34 resulted in a loss"
It got wildly unrepresentative results. e.g 30 Black wagers ALL lost
There were no streaks of more than 2 losses!!!!!

The full transcription is in my blog. I'll give it another shot, with more explicit instructions.
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December 30th, 2023 at 12:00:30 PM permalink
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They're just gonna tell you "if it bleeds it leads" then there are updates on the day's 3 mass shootings in the city. Oh, that's so 1990's. What's on the news now?
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My thing is more quit following the crowd. Most all of them not only cover the exact same stories the exact same way they use the exact same words of the day. Half of what they cover to death is near useless (eg Amy Fischer way back when).

They have kind of given up on hiring beat reporters and have closed most of their bureaus other than DC and NYC. It’s a wasteland.
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December 30th, 2023 at 12:39:48 PM permalink
It would be great if they used an AI version of Alan Mendelson.

Or Walter Cronkite.
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