Miscellaneous Discussion Thread II
Quote: MrVI don't know how the casinos have handled it in Las Vegas, but my go-to tribal casino in Oregon, Chinook Winds, was "all smoking" pre-Covid, except for a smaller, designated "non-smoking" section.
Covid came, it shut down and later reopened fully non-smoking.
The whole casino remained non-smoking, til now.
I was there yesterday / today and noticed a change: a small section is now sectioned off and is a designated "smoking" section.
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Pennsylvania is on the verge of banning smoking in casinos. No idea if there will be a cigar bar exemption. In Pittsburgh there had to be a cut-out as smoking is banned in most indoor places and I believe the stadiums.
Quote: AZDuffmanPennsylvania is on the verge of banning smoking in casinos.
PARX in Bensalem PA, has remained smoke-free since the pandemic. The place is always packed.
The owners also banned smoking in their PARX Shippensburg casino.
'Smoke-Free Parx Continues Dominating Retail Play in Pennsylvania'
Quote: rxwineI would allow smoking rooms in the casino. They'd be closed off and the air would keep recirculating with no filtering.
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It’s about the employees having to be around the smoke. So that idea would be a nonstarter as we already have smoking areas.
I don’t think it would change play much on net.
Quote: ChumpChangeIf you can smell smoke, you can smell COVID in the air; or maybe you can't because you lost your sense of smell to long COVID.
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I’m like 99.98% sure that’s false.
there are some stories out there about banks hassling customers who are moving money in and out of online gambling sites
sometimes even forcibly closing accounts
it wouldn't effect me because I don't gamble anymore -
and it didn't effect me when I was moving money in and out my horse racing and sports betting accounts via bank transactions in the past
but I am curious if anybody here has experienced anything like this
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there are some stories out there about banks hassling customers who are moving money in and out of online gambling sites
sometimes even forcibly closing accounts
it wouldn't effect me because I don't gamble anymore -
and it didn't effect me when I was moving money in and out my horse racing and sports betting accounts via bank transactions in the past
but I am curious if anybody here has experienced anything like this
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Why would they care, I don't get it.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: lilredrooster.
there are some stories out there about banks hassling customers who are moving money in and out of online gambling sites
sometimes even forcibly closing accounts
it wouldn't effect me because I don't gamble anymore -
and it didn't effect me when I was moving money in and out my horse racing and sports betting accounts via bank transactions in the past
but I am curious if anybody here has experienced anything like this
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Why would they care, I don't get it.
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the link explains it to a certain extent
I believe the banks may only be interested if there are very large transactions
they may suspect that the gambling activity is a cover for other illegal activity
having said that I'm no expert on this - just trying to figure out what is going on
edit - I posted this on another site too and got this response from a poster there:
on more edit: - a google search indicated that in some states it is illegal for a U.S. citizen to gamble using an online offshore account
"if your 'gambling' site is off-shore you better not use an account you want to keep (or keep a balance in there that you do not want to lose) be it poker, sports or casino.
I have had cc cancelled and Wells Fargo account, but I did not really bug me because I started them as throwaway accounts."
https://www.bettingusa.com/us-banks-online-gambling/
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Quote: ChumpChangeI read some google thing that said if you have a consistent $1K bank balance and suddenly bring in a $5K cash deposit from gambling, they'll fill out a SAR on you and close your account. So bring a casino check next time?
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I never use my bank for anything, everything I do with gambling goes into PayPal and they never say anything about anything. With PayPal I could use the debit account, or make payments on the PayPal credit card and the PayPal credit account. Who needs a bank. All Michigan online casinos use PayPal.
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/3-year-cruise-mv-gemini/index.html
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Apparently, this has been canceled, from what I understand, they couldn't find a ship to do it.
Quote: AxelWolflive on a cruise ship for 3 years at a cost of $30,000 per year.
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/3-year-cruise-mv-gemini/index.html
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Apparently, this has been canceled, from what I understand, they couldn't find a ship to do it.
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You are correct. they intended to buy a specific ship just for this cruise and weren't able to afford it. The cruise was cancelled two weeks before departure causing havoc for many. Many people sold their houses and cars because they planned to be on the ship for three years. When it cancelled some were homeless. They were told they will be reimbursed but it would be over any years because the company no longer had the money.
Let me get this straight: they say they cannot pay everybody back quickly?
Why not?
They didn't use the money to buy a ship, or provision it, or pay a crew: it should all be there, minus a small amount for initial administration.
WHERE IS THE MONEY?
This could eclipse Fyre Festival.
Terrible, just terrible. I feel sorry for those people, I hope they set up a GoFundMe account. It's not like this was some kind of stock investment that went bad. I thought it would be a good idea and a great deal for some people.Quote: DRichQuote: AxelWolflive on a cruise ship for 3 years at a cost of $30,000 per year.
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/3-year-cruise-mv-gemini/index.html
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Apparently, this has been canceled, from what I understand, they couldn't find a ship to do it.
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You are correct. they intended to buy a specific ship just for this cruise and weren't able to afford it. The cruise was cancelled two weeks before departure causing havoc for many. Many people sold their houses and cars because they planned to be on the ship for three years. When it cancelled some were homeless. They were told they will be reimbursed but it would be over any years because the company no longer had the money.
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You are correct. they intended to buy a specific ship just for this cruise and weren't able to afford it. The cruise was cancelled two weeks before departure causing havoc for many. Many people sold their houses and cars because they planned to be on the ship for three years.
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Good God why. It would be like living on floating petri dish. Diseases floating around on a cruise ship are countless. I'm bored to death just thinking about it. All there is to do on a cruise is eat and I suppose if you like being a big fat person that's the place to be. You literally could not pay me to live on a cruise ship for a month let alone for 3 years. I would love to take a cruise in 1955, when you had to dress for dinner every meal and the food was Michelin star quality. And it wasn't loaded with the morbidly obese and they're screaming obese children. The dinner menus from the cruise ships in the 50s and 60s are actually collectible and some of them are worth a lot of money.
Here's one from 1960.
Nowadays with people being able to work from their computer and make very good money doing it, I thought this would be a great idea. They would get to travel and see the world. I'm sure there would be an interesting close-knit community with fun things to do, and good meals. I'm sure the price beats the expenses in some places.Quote: MrVI hope the people behind this get sued and sued severely: what a rip off.
Let me get this straight: they say they cannot pay everybody back quickly?
Why not?
They didn't use the money to buy a ship, or provision it, or pay a crew: it should all be there, minus a small amount for initial administration.
WHERE IS THE MONEY?
This could eclipse Fyre Festival.
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I was given a 2016 Chevy Impala with around 12,000 miles on it. Last year it cost about $800 to insure and I put less than 600 miles on it, If my math is correct that is $1.25 per mile just to insure it. I think I will be getting rid of it this year unless something changes.
Would we need the number 1 trillion if it were not for counting money?
Do people understand how big this number is?
Quote: AxelWolflive on a cruise ship for 3 years at a cost of $30,000 per year.
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/3-year-cruise-mv-gemini/index.html
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Apparently, this has been canceled, from what I understand, they couldn't find a ship to do it.
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$30k/yr for room, board, housekeeping, and entertainment? I don't think you can do that anywhere, at least not in the English-speaking world.Quote: AxelWolfI'm sure the price beats the expenses in some places.
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I might go as far as to put this in the "too good to be true" category. And evidently it was.
Quote: AZDuffmanRandom math question for the day.
Would we need the number 1 trillion if it were not for counting money?
Do people understand how big this number is?
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your post got me curious
what are the names of some numbers much larger than 1 trillion - I didn't know so I looked it up - see image
according to a google search Elon Musk is the world's richest person - he has a net worth or $244 billion
it prolly isn't too far in the future before there is a trillionaire
after quintillion - according to Brtannica (linked) comes:
sextillion
septillion
octillion
nonillion
decillion
undecillion
duodecillion
tredecillion
quattuorodecillion
googol
centillion
https://www.britannica.com/topic/large-numbers-1765137
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Quote: lilredroosterQuote: AZDuffmanRandom math question for the day.
Would we need the number 1 trillion if it were not for counting money?
Do people understand how big this number is?
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your post got me curious
what are the names of some numbers much larger than 1 trillion - I didn't know so I looked it up - see image
What would the full name for 1 googol - 1 be?
No 10 to the X minus shorthand. Saying it out like "nine hundred ninety-nine"
Quote: DieterHow many grains of sand are in that sandcastle?
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And a single grain of sand has more than a billion atoms. Quite a bit more, actually.
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: lilredroosterQuote: AZDuffmanRandom math question for the day.
Would we need the number 1 trillion if it were not for counting money?
Do people understand how big this number is?
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your post got me curious
what are the names of some numbers much larger than 1 trillion - I didn't know so I looked it up - see image
What would the full name for 1 googol - 1 be?
No 10 to the X minus shorthand. Saying it out like "nine hundred ninety-nine"
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see link -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Googol
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I always thought it was interesting that cosmological physicists bypass (to some extent) this type of 'illion-ish" nomenclature by measuring distance in light-years.
Quote: rxwineEB thinks 3 years means you wouldn't get off the ship at various ports?
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I've been on a cruise, I know how they work. To me it would be a floating prison with stops where you can get off and wish you didn't have to go back to the prison. Like I said it's the clientele these days, it's the same thing with taking a plane ride. Back in the seventies when I moved to Hawaii that was the first jet I was ever on and the people onboard were the polar opposite of the people that are on planes now. Same with cruises.
Quote: AZDuffmanRandom math question for the day.
Would we need the number 1 trillion if it were not for counting money?
Do people understand how big this number is?
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I remember in 1962 when The Beverly Hillbillies came on and their net worth was $10 million, we thought that was the most money we'd ever heard of anybody having. They could even buy a giant mansion in Beverly Hills and still have millions left over. What would $10 million dollars buy you in Beverly Hills today, not the place they lived in that's for sure.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: AZDuffmanRandom math question for the day.
Would we need the number 1 trillion if it were not for counting money?
Do people understand how big this number is?
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I remember in 1962 when The Beverly Hillbillies came on and their net worth was $10 million, we thought that was the most money we'd ever heard of anybody having. They could even buy a giant mansion in Beverly Hills and still have millions left over. What would $10 million dollars buy you in Beverly Hills today, not the place they lived in that's for sure.
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If you want to have fun do the math on that.
Oil was about $3/bbl back then. A standard deal was 1/8 for the property owner. Thus to get $10 million dollars they would have had to pumped 27 million bbl of oil from Jeb's property. That would have been almost a month of Canadian production at the time!
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I always thought it was interesting that cosmological physicists bypass (to some extent) this type of 'illion-ish" nomenclature by measuring distance in light-years.
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agree
a light year is about 6 trillion miles - 5.88 trillion to be exact
the closest star to us (not including our sun) is Proxima Centauri
it is 4.24 light years away
almost 25 trillion miles distance to that star
at this time the furthest any spacecraft has gone is the probe Voyager which has reached a distance of about 14.5 billion miles from Earth
the probe made flybys of Jupiter, Saturn and Saturn's largest moon Titan
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It is more interesting than the Macy's and Rose parades.
For those who are unaware,go check it out...I watched it one cold NY Day and it was a great experience.
Here's a snippet...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGz4huVzsVkj
And another...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSLouDMSdCo&t=59s
Quote: TigerWuAccording to the inflation calculator, $10mm in 1962 is the equivalent of $100mm in today's dollars. The richest person in the world at that time was J. Paul Getty, who was worth over $1 billion at the time, in 1960s dollars. The Bevery Hillbillies would have been rich for sure, but still nowhere near the top.
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I remember when Bill Gates hit 60 billion dollars and that was just an unbelievable amount of money. I just looked up Elon Musk and today he's worth almost 250 billion dollars. Of course that goes up and down daily, he sometimes goes up six or seven billion dollars in just one day. I read somewhere that Elon Musk is a one in a billion person in that he has the ability to make money and start businesses that benefit the future of the planet overall. Things like electric cars, and space Rockets, and brain implants and tunnel boring machines and any of the other 100 businesses that he owns that we never hear about. Most people when they get that kind of money immediately by hugely expensive houses, fleets of airplanes and at least one billion dollar you got. Must seems to not want any of that, he has one plane and that's for business use. Lots of people don't like him but I feel hugely privileged to be alive at the same time as somebody who's going to go down in history forever for the work he's doing.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: rxwineEB thinks 3 years means you wouldn't get off the ship at various ports?
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I've been on a cruise, I know how they work. To me it would be a floating prison with stops where you can get off and wish you didn't have to go back to the prison. Like I said it's the clientele these days, it's the same thing with taking a plane ride. Back in the seventies when I moved to Hawaii that was the first jet I was ever on and the people onboard were the polar opposite of the people that are on planes now. Same with cruises.
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I've never seen a plane big enough to be comfortable for more than a day. And that would be without all the extra people.
Quote: rxwineQuote: EvenBobQuote: rxwineEB thinks 3 years means you wouldn't get off the ship at various ports?
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I've been on a cruise, I know how they work. To me it would be a floating prison with stops where you can get off and wish you didn't have to go back to the prison. Like I said it's the clientele these days, it's the same thing with taking a plane ride. Back in the seventies when I moved to Hawaii that was the first jet I was ever on and the people onboard were the polar opposite of the people that are on planes now. Same with cruises.
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I've never seen a plane big enough to be comfortable for more than a day. And that would be without all the extra people.
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I have been in business jets. They are not as comfortable as you think they are.
As to Musk, I am neutral on him. He seems to be about you can make billions a year if you shovel billions a year in for a decade or more and have the bankroll to wait it out. Tesla is an example. What, 20 years to make a profit? Lots of that off selling credits to other automakers not from operations?
Other thing is the guy does not seem to grasp the fact that at his level you gotta be very careful what you say. He makes off the cuff remarks that the SEC takes serious. OTOH, the "let this sink in" thing was clever as all heck.
Quote: TigerWuAccording to the inflation calculator, $10mm in 1962 is the equivalent of $100mm in today's dollars. The richest person in the world at that time was J. Paul Getty, who was worth over $1 billion at the time, in 1960s dollars. The Bevery Hillbillies would have been rich for sure, but still nowhere near the top.
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Oil is 20-25x up since then. But to be "rich" requires probably 50x what it did then. That part though is way harder to measure.
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Other thing is the guy does not seem to grasp the fact that at his level you gotta be very careful what you say. He makes off the cuff remarks that the SEC takes serious. OTOH, the "let this sink in" thing was clever as all heck.
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What Elon Musk always says is, he's not a businessman he's an engineer. He's an idea person, but he also has the talent to put his ideas into practical use. He fully admits that he runs his mouth too much but he doesn't seem to care because he has the confidence in himself that he's going to make money no matter what he says. I've heard him say many times that ever since he was a kid his brain when he's awake is like it's on steroids all the time, it's always working on solving problems. He can't control it, he calls it having million dollar thoughts. I heard Isaac Asimov say something similar, that he can write a science book in a couple of hours because his brain was moving a million miles a second it felt like the information was coming over his left shoulder and out through his fingers into the typewriter. At one time Asimov had over 200 books in print, nobody will ever come close to that. Nobody will ever come close to what Elon Musk is doing, these people are one in a billion.
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I've never seen a plane big enough to be comfortable for more than a day. And that would be without all the extra people.
I am not claustrophobic so I think this plane would suit me fine.
a 7 story Bronx apartment building collapsed yesterday -
amazingly no severe injuries reported
but more than 100 low income residents have been displaced
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It may be a concept car.
For some reason a country music singer appeared in the dream, and he was singing a funny type song. in the song he was going over stupid mistakes in life he made .... including something like " I found myself plopped down at a 25 dollar Talking Blackjack Machine "
Must have been the high limit room! But including the word "Talking" in it, that still has me laughing
Quote: MrVI cannot understand why the Phladelphia Mummer's Parade, held NY Day, isn't nationally televised.
It is more interesting than the Macy's and Rose parades.
For those who are unaware,go check it out...I watched it one cold NY Day and it was a great experience.
Here's a snippet...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGz4huVzsVkj
And another...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSLouDMSdCo&t=59s
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New Years Day has traditionally been The Rose Parade and then multiple College Bowls.
Quote: billryanQuote: MrVI cannot understand why the Phladelphia Mummer's Parade, held NY Day, isn't nationally televised.
It is more interesting than the Macy's and Rose parades.
For those who are unaware,go check it out...I watched it one cold NY Day and it was a great experience.
Here's a snippet...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGz4huVzsVkj
And another...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSLouDMSdCo&t=59s
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New Years Day has traditionally been The Rose Parade and then multiple College Bowls.
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The Rose parade is the only one that I seem to tune into. I just like the creativity of the floats.
Quote: rxwineNotice anything about the design of Mercede's newest model? Designers are cringing
Yes, the "white accent line" (or is it a looonnnng, thin light?) is flat out distracting, and not in a good way.
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Oh, keep broadcasting the Rose Parade, but also give the Mummers more airplay than they receive.
It is broadcast locally but deserves a national audience: it is just so unique.
