Challenge to AxelWolf the Daddy of All Wagers

You’ve been claiming time and again that the stock trades I post are “fake.”

I wager you USD $250,000. that they are not.

You pick any ten trades for which I have posted the screen shots over the past year in my thread
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/off-topic/34418-mdawgs-investments/#
ANY ten. From the past or present.

For example this one:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/off-topic/34418-mdawgs-investments/55/#post796597
or this one
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/off-topic/34418-mdawgs-investments/54/#post796528
etc. Any trade for which I have posted the screen shots - trades that you claim are "faked" or "simulated" trades.

I will be in Vegas within a few weeks. We meet at the Wizard’s home. You will come with a cashier’s check for $250,000. as will I. I will make my cashier’s check payable to whomever you designate – you will make your cashier’s check payable to whomever I designate.

We will hand the checks to the Wizard to hold in our presence.

We will all three of us sign an NDA as to not disclosing any of the personal identifying or financial information that is revealed during the course of this encounter, under penalty of a heavy liquidated damages clause.

I will login to the stock trading account I have been using for my trades I have been posting. I will provide government identification to verify that the account is mine.
You may navigate freely in my account and you will be able to verify that these ten trades are genuine, and represent real money. If you would like to bring a stock broker with you to examine the account and advise you, go ahead, after all, a quarter million dollars is at stake.

After you have verified that the ten trades you picked are genuine, I will take your cashier’s check, you will accompany me to your bank, and ensure that I am able to cash the check. If it turns out that any of these ten trades is not genuine, you win, you get my cashier’s check and I accompany you to my bank to ensure that it is paid. The winner gets both checks, his own, and the check of the loser.

That quarter million should be enough to bankrupt you, which is my intent – to silence you and break you once and for all.

But just to show you that I’m not a hard man, that it’s not just all about dollars and cents.

The loser must additionally get down on the ground and lick the underside of the winner’s shoes. That’s right, stick your yahzick out a mile long and lick the sole of my shoes.

Let me know when you’re ready to proceed.

STFU.

Quote: MDawg

You’ve been claiming time and again that the stock trades I post are “fake.”

I wager you USD $250,000. that they are not.

You pick any ten trades for which I have posted the screen shots over the past year in my thread
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/off-topic/34418-mdawgs-investments/#
ANY ten. From the past or present.

For example this one:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/off-topic/34418-mdawgs-investments/55/#post796597
or this one
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/off-topic/34418-mdawgs-investments/54/#post796528
etc. Any trade for which I have posted the screen shots - trades that you claim are "faked" or "simulated" trades.

I will be in Vegas within a few weeks. We meet at the Wizard’s home. You will come with a cashier’s check for $250,000. as will I. I will make my cashier’s check payable to whomever you designate – you will make your cashier’s check payable to whomever I designate.

We will hand the checks to the Wizard to hold in our presence.

We will all three of us sign an NDA as to not disclosing any of the personal identifying or financial information that is revealed during the course of this encounter, under penalty of a heavy liquidated damages clause.

I will login to the stock trading account I have been using for my trades I have been posting. I will provide government identification to verify that the account is mine.
You may navigate freely in my account and you will be able to verify that these ten trades are genuine, and represent real money. If you would like to bring a stock broker with you to examine the account and advise you, go ahead, after all, a quarter million dollars is at stake.

After you have verified that the ten trades you picked are genuine, I will take your cashier’s check, you will accompany me to your bank, and ensure that I am able to cash the check. If it turns out that any of these ten trades is not genuine, you win, you get my cashier’s check and I accompany you to my bank to ensure that it is paid. The winner gets both checks, his own, and the check of the loser.

That quarter million should be enough to bankrupt you, which is my intent – to silence you and break you once and for all.

But just to show you that I’m not a hard man, that it’s not just all about dollars and cents.

The loser must additionally get down on the ground and lick the underside of the winner’s shoes. That’s right, stick your yahzick out a mile long and lick the sole of my shoes.

Let me know when you’re ready to proceed.

I'm not going to put too much time effort or thought into this. For there ever to be any wager between me and you where I have to go out of my way trusting that you will follow through, show up, or actually pay me. You would first have to prove that you have the ability to pay. You've already been given the opportunity you put money up with no risk and ask for it back without any consequences to prove that you have the ability to pay off any challenges Wagers are bets. I did so myself, and you were supposed to as well. You Somehow talked to Mike out of having to do it based on there not being a meeting of the minds, however I think he was confused as there didn't need to be a meeting of the minds for that particular situation, as you were able to get back your money for any reason. It was simply just to prove you had the ability to pay had we went further.

This sounds like another BIG BET BLUFF!!!!
But, let's for a moment just assume "you" actually did show up with a cashier's check, I would never trust an unknown persons cashiers check since they can easily be faked.

I'm not dumb enough to make a 250k bet like THIS, even if I'm absolutely confident I'm right. Even a millionaire would be willing to let you take over his stock account or whatever shenanigans would be needed to fake something like this just to win 250K. Since you have no personal history with anyone here, no one has ever meet you, no one knows your real name.... it would be far too easy for someone, anyone, to step up in your place and claim to be you in order to win a 250k bet. There would be absolutely no way to know it's actually you, the person sitting behind the computer typing under your handle. For all I know, you handle a rich family member or friends account. You have been trying to get people to put up 50k at the Wynn for some odd reason, that sounds very odd and suspicious to me. BIG RED FLAGS are going off in my head. I'm not saying you are trying to con me, but , I'm thinking there are so many ways I could be conned while participating in a bet like this.

And all that bootlicking stuff you're talking about is so very uncouth, its very off-putting to me knowing that someone would even suggest something like that. I really have to ask myself, what kind of person actually has that kind of stuff rattling around in their head.

Even if I made a bet and won where something like that was part of it, I don't think I would ever ask another human being to do something like that. No doubt, we have had our issues and lots of banter back and forth. It's obviously we haven't been each other's biggest fans, but man, I don't know why, but that boot looking stuff really made me lose some respect I had for you as a person behind the computer/persona.

Quote: billryan

STFU.

Masked profanity. Three-day suspension.

I didn't take the bootlicking aspect seriously as MDawg was making a reference to the film "A Clockwork Orange"

Personally I think the loser should have his eyeballs stuck open and forced to watch "Manos, the hands of fate" until they vomit.

Or forced to read MDawg's full adventures till their eyeball's bleed

Quote: MDawg

That quarter million should be enough to bankrupt you,

Personal insult, seven-day suspension.

Quote: Wizard

Masked profanity. Three-day suspension.

maybe not! Apparently it is also short for 'shut the freak up' as well as what you likely suspended Billy for! Frankly, as they were discussing tying up a quarter million, Billy clearly was referencing the financial acronym, Short Term Financial Uncertainty.

Please reconsider this crushing sentence to our friend Billy!!!!!

Quote: darkoz

I didn't take the bootlicking aspect seriously as MDawg was making a reference to the film "A Clockwork Orange"

Personally I think the loser should have his eyeballs stuck open and forced to watch "Manos, the hands of fate" until they vomit.

Or forced to read MDawg's full adventures till their eyeball's bleed

I really don't care what it's from or how the idea got in his head, oftentimes people like to emulate things in real life, even if the original idea came from a movie or book. I believe that he was serious no matter how he got the idea, even if he claims after the fact not to be. I have no doubt that's what he will now claim once he realizes just how sick I think it was.

I guess you can't insult Texas millionaires without a Texas sized electric bill.

Quote: SOOPOO

maybe not! Apparently it is also short for 'shut the freak up' as well as what you likely suspended Billy for! Frankly, as they were discussing tying up a quarter million, Billy clearly was referencing the financial acronym, Short Term Financial Uncertainty.

Please reconsider this crushing sentence to our friend Billy!!!!!

Be careful, The Wizard might refer you to bills post.

Quote: Wizard

Masked profanity. Three-day suspension.

LOL.

Didn't Masked Profanity fight Spider-Man a couple of issues back?

So, to be clear, when @!#!!*&! was used in the Sunday Beetle Bailey comics pages, under the Masked Profanity rule, that would be considered too risque for the gambling site named Wizard of Vegas?

You really cannot make this stuff up.

Quote: redietz

LOL.

Didn't Masked Profanity fight Spider-Man a couple of issues back?

So, to be clear, when @!#!!*&! was used in the Sunday Beetle Bailey comics pages, under the Masked Profanity rule, that would be considered too risque for the gambling site named Wizard of Vegas?

You really cannot make this stuff up.

I think it's been well established that you can't tell someone to shut up, especially, when adding masked profanity to it.

Oh yeah, in the interest of truth, justice, and the American way, I would never take a shot at something like this if I were Axel. First, everything Axel said -- too easy to set up. I recall some "Singer" set ups where people claimed to not believe he had 500K to escrow. Well, considering Singer's friend/publisher at Gaming Today and his contacts, assembling 500K for escrow -- not that big a deal.

Second, and curiously I add in a conjectural way, if this was where I was going in terms of being insulted by talk of my trades being fake, I would have popped this out of my mouth/keyboard first thing, not months later. MDawg doesn't strike me as lacking in creativity or initiative.

And allow me to sign this, as I defend justice everywhere,

The Caped Profanity

Quote: AxelWolf

I think it's been well established that you can't tell someone to shut up, especially, when adding masked profanity to it.

Well, then, the suspension should be duly listed as the "Shut Up" rule, not the "Masked Profanity" rule. It's important to take these permutations and gradations in meaning seriously, Axel. It'd be like saying there's a 105% DDB when you meant DB. Very imprecise.

LOL. You cannot make this stuff up.

Quote: Wizard

Masked profanity. Three-day suspension.

I have to say that I had to LOL at this. IMHO, AFAIK, FWIW, STFU can represent any number of phrases. You would have to ELI5 because IANAL, but ITT and ITF many abbreviations are used. I think that YSK that in many places substitutions abound. To list a few, the F-WORD, N-WORD, C-WORD, S-WORD, two instances of the S-WORD actually, the B-WORD, the A-WORD, and on and on.

I think that you are FOS (Full Of Suspicion) if you think the SHFU means, well what - exactly? Anyone that would do this is a POS (Pretty Obnoxious Specimen) if he has the time, energy and interest in reading each and every post that's made here to this picayune, nit-picking level. It must take a lot of time. It must be PITA (Pretty Involved To Accomplish).

I suggest that you should also closely peruse spelling, punctuation, tense, and idiom so as to be sure that nothing, absolutely nothing, sneaks past you.

Or you could just STFU (Stop Terroririzing Friendly Undertakings) that occur on this forum all the time.

LOL! I'm going to have to start a go fund me for new keyboards. I catch up here and eat lunch at my desk. This is like the 3rd time since Christmas that you guys have made me spit my drink.

Quote: fantom

I have to say that I had to LOL at this. IMHO, AFAIK, FWIW, STFU can represent any number of phrases. You would have to ELI5 because IANAL, but ITT and ITF many abbreviations are used. I think that YSK that in many places substitutions abound. To list a few, the F-WORD, N-WORD, C-WORD, S-WORD, two instances of the S-WORD actually, the B-WORD, the A-WORD, and on and on.

I think that you are FOS (Full Of Suspicion) if you think the SHFU means, well what - exactly? Anyone that would do this is a POS (Pretty Obnoxious Specimen) if he has the time, energy and interest in reading each and every post that's made here to this picayune, nit-picking level. It must take a lot of time. It must be PITA (Pretty Involved To Accomplish).

I suggest that you should also closely peruse spelling, punctuation, tense, and idiom so as to be sure that nothing, absolutely nothing, sneaks past you.

Or you could just STFU (Stop Terroririzing Friendly Undertakings) that occur on this forum all the time.

for the record, I don't like the fact that BillRyan got suspended.

That being said, I think it's well-established that The Wizard gets to interpret things and make a judgment based on his interpretation. I think it's pretty obvious what Bill Ryan was telling MD. Heck, there's already a couple of well deserved thank you clicks on Bills post.

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If I was millionaire many times over from trading stocks - I too:

𝘸𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘣𝘦 𝘥𝘦𝘴𝘱𝘦𝘳𝘢𝘵𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘷𝘦 𝘪𝘵 𝘵𝘰 𝘢𝘯𝘰𝘯𝘺𝘮𝘰𝘶𝘴 𝘱𝘦𝘰𝘱𝘭𝘦 𝘰𝘯 𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘯𝘦𝘵 𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘶𝘮𝘴

𝕥𝕙𝕒𝕥 𝕨𝕠𝕦𝕝𝕕 𝕓𝕖 𝕣𝕖𝕒𝕝𝕝𝕪 𝕣𝕖𝕒𝕝𝕝𝕪 𝕚𝕞𝕡𝕠𝕣𝕥𝕒𝕟𝕥 𝕥𝕠 𝕞𝕖

Quote: lilredrooster

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If I was millionaire many times over from trading stocks - I too:

𝘸𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘣𝘦 𝘥𝘦𝘴𝘱𝘦𝘳𝘢𝘵𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘷𝘦 𝘪𝘵 𝘵𝘰 𝘢𝘯𝘰𝘯𝘺𝘮𝘰𝘶𝘴 𝘱𝘦𝘰𝘱𝘭𝘦 𝘰𝘯 𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘯𝘦𝘵 𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘶𝘮𝘴

𝕥𝕙𝕒𝕥 𝕨𝕠𝕦𝕝𝕕 𝕓𝕖 𝕣𝕖𝕒𝕝𝕝𝕪 𝕣𝕖𝕒𝕝𝕝𝕪 𝕚𝕞𝕡𝕠𝕣𝕥𝕒𝕟𝕥 𝕥𝕠 𝕞𝕖


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Self made millionaires rarely flaunt their wealth.

I have had a few high net worth acquaintances, including one billionaire (that’s not a brag, I am broke AF myself) and literally none of them ever acted like they had anything to prove.

People who act like this are either trust fund babies, married into wealth, got lucky and stumbled into some money, or are just flat out faking it.

Just my two cents. I think it’s more likely than not that Mdawg has done the trades he claims to have down in his MDawg investments thread. The idea that he somehow has posted actual trades from someone else’s account, which he has access to, and would get a fake ID to pretend is his, strains credulity, in my opinion.

Quote: MDawg

You’ve been claiming time and again that the stock trades I post are “fake.”

The example provided is from eight months ago. Which would make anyone think these claims of "time and again" are not true. (But none of us care to verify by combing through months and years of someone else's posts the way MDawg does). Posting some things that seem so obviously not true is definitely a piece of evidence that other things MDawg has posted are also not true.

Quote: TomG

Quote: MDawg

You’ve been claiming time and again that the stock trades I post are “fake.”

The example provided is from eight months ago. Which would make anyone think these claims of "time and again" are not true. (But none of us care to verify by combing through months and years of someone else's posts the way MDawg does). Posting some things that seem so obviously not true is definitely a piece of evidence that other things MDawg has posted are also not true.

. Not worth it to me to go back and look through the threads, but I don’t think Axel would even deny he ‘ time and again’ questioned the veracity of MDawg’s stock trades.

Here’s my take.... as opposed to beating baccarat every time, which defies the math, MDawg’s stock discussion has all been congruent with the math. Is it possible he has made it all up? I guess it is possible..... but it just seems so complicated to dream up, and execute.... Is it possible he makes a losing pick here and there and doesn’t post them...

I’m not sure why MDawg got suspended, but perhaps just the starting of this thread might be considered trolling? We all know there is NO WAY such a challenge will ever take place.

Quote: SOOPOO

Quote: TomG

Quote: MDawg

You’ve been claiming time and again that the stock trades I post are “fake.”

The example provided is from eight months ago. Which would make anyone think these claims of "time and again" are not true. (But none of us care to verify by combing through months and years of someone else's posts the way MDawg does). Posting some things that seem so obviously not true is definitely a piece of evidence that other things MDawg has posted are also not true.

. Not worth it to me to go back and look through the threads, but I don’t think Axel would even deny he ‘ time and again’ questioned the veracity of MDawg’s stock trades.

Here’s my take.... as opposed to beating baccarat every time, which defies the math, MDawg’s stock discussion has all been congruent with the math. Is it possible he has made it all up? I guess it is possible..... but it just seems so complicated to dream up, and execute.... Is it possible he makes a losing pick here and there and doesn’t post them...

I’m not sure why MDawg got suspended, but perhaps just the starting of this thread might be considered trolling? We all know there is NO WAY such a challenge will ever take place.

scroll up. Wiz said 7 days for personal insult. Quote was the bit about $250k bankrupting Axel.

Quote: TomG

The example provided is from eight months ago. Which would make anyone think these claims of "time and again" are not true. (But none of us care to verify by combing through months and years of someone else's posts the way MDawg does). Posting some things that seem so obviously not true is definitely a piece of evidence that other things MDawg has posted are also not true.

You don't have to scroll through months and years of Axel's posts to verify MDawg's claim above...you just need to know where to look.

It's obvious that you know where to look, so you've posted some things that seem so obviously not true.

Is that definitely a piece of evidence that other things that you have posted are also not true?

Quote: coachbelly

You don't have to scroll through months and years of Axel's posts to verify MDawg's claim above...you just need to know where to look.

It's obvious that you know where to look, so you've posted some things that seem so obviously not true.

Is that definitely a piece of evidence that other things that you have posted are also not true?

I do not know where to look to easily find other examples, without spending more than a few minutes searching. Are you able to provide some examples for us?

Quote: TomG

Are you able to provide some examples for us?

Of course I am able to...but I'll let Axel help you find them.

Quote: gamerfreak

Self made millionaires rarely flaunt their wealth.

I have had a few high net worth acquaintances, including one billionaire (that’s not a brag, I am broke AF myself) and literally none of them ever acted like they had anything to prove.

People who act like this are either trust fund babies, married into wealth, got lucky and stumbled into some money, or are just flat out faking it.

Ye Gods!! Where is the @!&**!#! consistency?

Gamerfreak needs to be suspended!! Immediately!

Not only does he use the acronym "AF" in an obvious attempt to draw a suspension, but he also manages to INSULT HIMSELF by using the "AF" designation while describing himself. Since there is no break in the rules for insulting oneself, the only logical conclusion is that gamerfreak MUST BE SUSPENDED.

All those with me, say AYE! (That includes, you, gamerfreak)

AM/PM, even a broke clock is right twice a day, unless it runs at half speed.

Quote: coachbelly

Of course I am able to...but I'll let Axel help you find them.

Axel wasn't the one made the statement. You were. Now you are unwilling to stand by what you said.

So that give us an answer to your previous question, "Is that definitely a piece of evidence that other things that you have posted are also not true?" Your weak attempts to troll the forum show that what I said was true.

Quote: TomG

Axel wasn't the one made the statement. You were. Now you are unwilling to stand by what you said.

I 100% stand by what I wrote.

Regarding questioning the veracity of MDawg's trades, time and again,
Axel did what MDawg accused him of.

There are many examples that can be found, if you know where to look.

I'm certain that you know where to look, and that Axel can confirm.

What you have written is not true.

Quote: SOOPOO

I don’t think Axel would even deny he ‘ time and again’ questioned the veracity of MDawg’s stock trades.

Quote: AxelWolf

for the record, I don't like the fact that BillRyan got suspended.

That being said, I think it's well-established that The Wizard gets to interpret things and make judgments based on his interpretation. I think it's pretty obvious what Bill Ryan was telling MD. Heck, there's already a couple of well deserved thank you clicks on Bills post.

I have never argued or disagreed with the idea that this forum is run under the form of a dictatorship. Not a benign one, in the least.

Mike has the right to suspend anyone he wants, for any reason. In fact, he has the right to use any word, phrase, comment, insult or obscenity he wants, even those which HIS rules prohibit. It's his "property" and we post here, totally and exclusively, at his pleasure.

rex non potest peccare

I do take exception to the hypocrisy inherent in the arbitrary, uneven, selective and inconsistent way in which these supposed hard and fast rules are applied, and the varying penalties handed dowm from on high. All of this is done on a whim and depends on the mood of he (or they) who are the judges, juries and executioners.

There is but one rule here. The Wizard Rules. Even if He Who Must Be Obeyed insists that we all pretend that there are other rules, we all now how it is. He may be the Wizard of Las Vegas, but here he's the Tyrant as well.

Quote: coachbelly

I 100% stand by what I wrote.

Regarding questioning the veracity of MDawg's trades, time and again,
Axel did what MDawg accused him of.

There are many examples that can be found, if you know where to look.

Why keep making this claim while refusing to show any examples that are more recent than eight months if not to troll the forum?

Quote: fantom

I have never argued or disagreed with the idea that this forum is run under the form of a dictatorship. Not a benign one, in the least.

Mike has the right to suspend anyone he wants, for any reason. In fact, he has the right to use any word, phrase, comment, insult or obscenity he wants, even those which HIS rules prohibit. It's his "property" and we post here, totally and exclusively, at his pleasure.

rex non potest peccare

I do take exception to the hypocrisy inherent in the arbitrary, uneven, selective and inconsistent way in which these supposed hard and fast rules are applied, and the varying penalties handed dowm from on high. All of this is done on a whim and depends on the mood of he (or they) who are the judges, juries and executioners.

There is but one rule here. The Wizard Rules. Even if He Who Must Be Obeyed insists that we all pretend that there are other rules, we all now how it is. He may be the Wizard of Las Vegas, but here he's the Tyrant as well.

You seem to have been here for longer than your history under this name would indicate.

Quote: TomG

Why keep making this claim while refusing to show any examples that are more recent than eight months if not to troll the forum?

I'm not trolling the forum. I am correcting you, what you implied earlier (below) is not true.

Quote: TomG

Posting some things that seem so obviously not true is definitely a piece of evidence that other things MDawg has posted are also not true.

I'm prohibited from showing examples by forum rules, I'm sure you know that.

Axel won't deny what he has written about MDawg's trades...just ask him, he'll straighten you out too.

Quote: fantom

I have never argued or disagreed with the idea that this forum is run under the form of a dictatorship. Not a benign one, in the least.

Mike has the right to suspend anyone he wants, for any reason. In fact, he has the right to use any word, phrase, comment, insult or obscenity he wants, even those which HIS rules prohibit. It's his "property" and we post here, totally and exclusively, at his pleasure.

rex non potest peccare

I do take exception to the hypocrisy inherent in the arbitrary, uneven, selective and inconsistent way in which these supposed hard and fast rules are applied, and the varying penalties handed dowm from on high. All of this is done on a whim and depends on the mood of he (or they) who are the judges, juries and executioners.

There is but one rule here. The Wizard Rules. Even if He Who Must Be Obeyed insists that we all pretend that there are other rules, we all now how it is. He may be the Wizard of Las Vegas, but here he's the Tyrant as well.

Most of the time the person who the post was directed at must make a complaint to Mike via PM.

Quote: coachbelly

I'm not trolling the forum. I am correcting you, what you implied earlier (below) is not true.



I'm prohibited from showing examples by forum rules, I'm sure you know that.

Axel won't deny what he has written about MDawg's trades...just ask him, he'll straighten you out too.

It's so predictable that you suddenly show up for MD like clockwork.

I won't give you the satisfaction of either denying or confirming any of this.

Given some new information that I have. I'm even more convinced than ever that whatever I and many others thought about MD is absolutely true. It's so very blatantly obvious what's going on now. People will have to do their own research to figure out what I'm talking about.

Quote: SOOPOO

Here’s my take.... as opposed to beating baccarat every time, which defies the math,

The math you're aware of, the math
you were taught. If you drew a pic
of a fully loaded 747 and told any
math person before the 20th century
that you could make this 400 ton
hunk of metal fly like a bird, they
would tell you it defies the math.
That's because they didn't yet
know the math of lift, drag and
thrust. Once they learned that
then it all made sense.

It is beyond my ability to reason why an Attorney would not only
participate in this Circus but be also the Ringmaster.

And hey look Coach showed up right on schedule.

Quote: AxelWolf

I won't give you the satisfaction of either denying or confirming any of this.

Of course you won't deny that MDawg's statement below is truthful...

Quote: MDawg

You’ve been claiming time and again that the stock trades I post are “fake.”

You made a half-dozen posts to that effect today alone.

It doesn't matter if you won't confirm it, there's a written record of it.

If you deny it, then your credibility is completely shot.

Quote: coachbelly

Of course you won't deny that MDawg's statement below is truthful...


You made a half-dozen posts to that effect today alone.

I did? Show evidence, or direct me to them or it's a lie, and your credibility is shot. I don't even need a half-dozen 3 or 4 would do just fine.

Post the proof and post the defense for everyone to see and understand. After all that's what a forum is for.

Quote: EvenBob

The math you're aware of, the math
you were taught. If you drew a pic
of a fully loaded 747 and told any
math person before the 20th century
that you could make this 400 ton
hunk of metal fly like a bird, they
would tell you it defies the math.
That's because they didn't yet
know the math of lift, drag and
thrust. Once they learned that
then it all made sense.

now everybody understands EB - why you're able to beat roulette so easily
you have math abilities that are far beyond those of mortal men
the society as a whole hasn't come close to catching up with your knowledge

like Alice looking down the rabbit hole it just gets curioser and curioser

every other week you come up with a yet more fantastical fantasy







for context look back at EB's post on 3/1 at 9:38 p.m. -
here he corrects Soopoo by explaining how and why baccarat can be beaten using futuristic math


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Quote: lilredrooster

now everybody understands EB - why you're able to beat roulette so easily
you have math abilities ar far beyond those of mortal men
the society as a whole hasn't come close to catching up with your knowledge

like Alice looking down the rabbit hole it just gets curioser and curioser

every other week you come up with a yet more fantastical fantasy


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I once witnessed a weather person talking about using a Doppler radar to predict black ice.

Quote: coachbelly

You made a half-dozen posts to that effect today alone.

Warning -- Importing drama from other forums.

Quote: Wizard

Warning -- Importing drama from other forums.

This entire thread seems to have been created to foment derision and crisis.

In it's two day history it has already generated multiple suspensions, multiple warnings and a bunch of irate comments.

99% (I'm actually certain 100% but they say never say 100%) of the forum members on here could tell this challenge would never come to pass including MDawg so again, it's creation was not to engage in any real challenge but to foment chaos.

Quote: EvenBob

The math you're aware of, the math you were taught. If you drew a pic of a fully loaded 747 and told any math person before the 20th century that you could make this 400 ton hunk of metal fly like a bird, they would tell you it defies the math. That's because they didn't yet know the math of lift, drag and thrust. Once they learned that then it all made sense.

If someone was able to describe all the math, science, and technology concepts that allowed the plane to fly, it would have definitely made a difference in how people accepted the idea. Likewise, if someone is able to describe how the house advantage of baccarat can turn into a player advantage, people would be accepting of it. Wizardofodds started doing some of that 20 years ago. I can do it fairly easily with plenty of other casino games (blackjack, video poker, poker, sports, or the Wild Mermaid slot machine). The issue isn't that winning at baccarat defies math, it is that people who claim to have an advantage when playing all seem to lack the capacity to describe the advantage.

Quote: TomG

... The issue isn't that winning at baccarat defies math, it is that people who claim to have an advantage when playing all seem to lack the capacity to describe the advantage.

He gave the secret away a long time ago

Quote: EvenBob

All roulette systems work part of
the time. Only play it when it's
working!!

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/questions-and-answers/gambling/30711-is-this-a-amazing-winning-roulette-strategy/2/#post643245

Quote: unJon

You seem to have been here for longer than your history under this name would indicate.

I don't think you need to have a login ID in order to read posts on this site. I could be a longtime lurker who only recently decided to create a login. I imagine many folks come upon this site in a variety of ways, and decide that it has so little to do with it's purported purpose "to talk about gambling and Las Vegas" that they don't even bother to create a login.

My experience on multiple other sites (not this one, of course) indicates that it's pretty easy and totally undetectable to create different identities on all these internets. Maybe even more than four, if you have a strong enough interest in doing so.

Is your only comment on what I posted that I'm not "old enough" from an historical perspective, for it to be relevant?

Considering the way that most threads on this site devolve, relevancy, of course, does not matter.

So, ignoring whatever indications you seem to have about who I am, what do you think about what I have to say?

Quote: odiousgambit

He gave the secret away a long time ago

Quote: EvenBob
All roulette systems work part of
the time. Only play it when it's
working!!

That's actually good advice. Good
on me..

Quote: fantom

I don't think you need to have a login ID in order to read posts on this site. I could be a longtime lurker who only recently decided to create a login. I imagine many folks come upon this site in a variety of ways, and decide that it has so little to do with it's purported purpose "to talk about gambling and Las Vegas" that they don't even bother to create a login.

My experience on multiple other sites (not this one, of course) indicates that it's pretty easy and totally undetectable to create different identities on all these internets. Maybe even more than four, if you have a strong enough interest in doing so.

Is your only comment on what I posted that I'm not "old enough" from an historical perspective, for it to be relevant?

Considering the way that most threads on this site devolve, relevancy, of course, does not matter.

So, ignoring whatever indications you seem to have about who I am, what do you think about what I have to say?

That was amazing. Non-denial denial. Thank you. Made me chuckle.

On the merits of your post, it’s an Internet forum. I’m apathetic to how it’s run. When I no longer enjoy coming here, I’ll stop.