Challenge to AxelWolf the Daddy of All Wagers

Quote: MDawg

No, some of us are actually going into the ring and throwing down serious money on a constant basis.

Good luck.

No interest in your monopoly money
Come on
You have to admit it's really weird that there is just one member here who's sole job is to defend you
Nothing else
If it's not Mom, it's awful close
My theory
Maybe you are at the public library with your phone
A dog on the phone, mom on the library public computer.
Makes sense to me
Either way, mom constantly coming on here to defend is the most bizarre dynamic of 2 posters ever on here.
It's either mom or a dup acct

Quote: MDawg

Looks like AxelWolf declines to pick up the gauntlet. Now, what exactly is his reasoning? I mean either the screenshots of the trades are genuine or they are not. Who could be posting genuine (not simulated) winners day after day. Impossible, right? Surely the trades must be all fake or simulated, who could win so consistently, why not pick up a quarter million off MDawg and embarrass him at the same time.

Just let me know I will cut the cashier's check and message you a screen shot of it (with, as suggested by someone else - the account numbers redacted so as to prevent mobile deposit). I can provide the cashier's check for your purview same day you request it, just show me yours too, and we'll roll on this thing, meet, and decide the fate of a half million dollars from the two of us. I should be in Vegas soon.

Perhaps you didn't read my post, I thought I made it very clear. I'll repost it for you.

Quote: AxelWolf

I'm not going to put too much time effort or thought into this. For there ever to be any wager between me and you where I have to go out of my way trusting that you will follow through, show up, or actually pay me. You would first have to prove that you have the ability to pay. You've already been given the opportunity you put money up with no risk and ask for it back without any consequences to prove that you have the ability to pay off any challenges Wagers are bets. I did so myself, and you were supposed to as well. You Somehow talked to Mike out of having to do it based on there not being a meeting of the minds, however I think he was confused as there didn't need to be a meeting of the minds for that particular situation, as you were able to get back your money for any reason. It was simply just to prove you had the ability to pay had we went further.

This sounds like another BIG BET BLUFF!!!!
But, let's for a moment just assume "you" actually did show up with a cashier's check, I would never trust an unknown persons cashiers check since they can easily be faked.

I'm not dumb enough to make a 250k bet like THIS, even if I'm absolutely confident I'm right. Even a millionaire would be willing to let you take over his stock account or whatever shenanigans would be needed to fake something like this just to win 250K. Since you have no personal history with anyone here, no one has ever meet you, no one knows your real name.... it would be far too easy for someone, anyone, to step up in your place and claim to be you in order to win a 250k bet. There would be absolutely no way to know it's actually you, the person sitting behind the computer typing under your handle. For all I know, you handle a rich family member or friends account. You have been trying to get people to put up 50k at the Wynn for some odd reason, that sounds very odd and suspicious to me. BIG RED FLAGS are going off in my head. I'm not saying you are trying to con me, but , I'm thinking there are so many ways I could be conned while participating in a bet like this.

And all that bootlicking stuff you're talking about is so very uncouth, its very off-putting to me knowing that someone would even suggest something like that. I really have to ask myself, what kind of person actually has that kind of stuff rattling around in their head.

Even if I made a bet and won where something like that was part of it, I don't think I would ever ask another human being to do something like that. No doubt, we have had our issues and lots of banter back and forth. It's obviously we haven't been each other's biggest fans, but man, I don't know why, but that boot looking stuff really made me lose some respect I had for you as a person behind the computer/persona.

Quote: AxelWolf

Given some new information that I have. I'm even more convinced than ever that whatever I and many others thought about MD is absolutely true. It's so very blatantly obvious what's going on now. People will have to do their own research to figure out what I'm talking about.

You keep saying the trades are genuine, and if I understand correctly, that's what you want to bet. You are not betting that the trades/funds/money/accounts are YOURS.


Let me refer you to this post and see how many likes it got. https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/off-topic/35670-challenge-to-axelwolf-the-daddy-of-all-wagers/#post796766

Let me refer you to this one as well noticed how many people thanked him for the post. https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/off-topic/35670-challenge-to-axelwolf-the-daddy-of-all-wagers/2/#post796806

As I said before....It's a Wolf Eat Dog Word.

It's irrelevant. Are you changing your story now and saying that my stock trades are all genuine but that they are not my own? Besides the absurdity of that concept - what difference would it make if MDawg or MickeyMouse showed up at the Wizard's house? If you're saying that my trades are genuine, then just say so. If they are fake or simulated, then you will win the bet whether MDawg or MickeyMouse shows up at the Wizard's house.

I also addressed whatever excuse you allude to above about whether the $250K will be available. You tell me you are ready to proceed and I will show you an image of my cashier's check same time that you show me yours. I can get a $250K cashier's check same day you request it and expect the same from you. Are you ready to proceed?

Since you seem to like to post "opinions" of others to back yourself up...how about this one.

Quote: unJon

Just my two cents. I think it’s more likely than not that Mdawg has done the trades he claims to have down in his MDawg investments thread. The idea that he somehow has posted actual trades from someone else’s account, which he has access to, and would get a fake ID to pretend is his, strains credulity, in my opinion.

Quote: MDawg

It's irrelevant. Are you changing your story now and saying that my stock trades are all genuine but that they are not my own?.

Could be Mom's acct

Quote: MDawg

No, some of us are actually going into the ring and throwing down serious money on a constant basis.

Good luck.

Your constant challenges are a joke. They reveal your huge insecurities with the need for a "peeing" or penis measuring contest. Nothing more.

Quote: MDawg

No, some of us are actually going into the ring and throwing down serious money on a constant basis.

Good luck.

You are correct, some of us are. Some of us don't have a single credible or verified person on this forum that can verify they have more than a few shekels in their pocket.

That's funny. In that KewlJ will post THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of words begging, pleading for people to believe him, and yet not one dollar has he ever wagered to back up what he has to say.

Quote: AxelWolf

You are correct, some of us are. Some of us don't have a single credible or verified person on this forum that can verify they have more than a few shekels in their pocket.

If you are ready to wager the $250,000. I am ready to proceed. The offer remains open until the end of this month. The rest of what you are saying...everyone sees right through. You are singing a different tune now is all, trying to keep face at the same time as backpedaling. So now the trades are not my own is your latest theory? I thought they were all fabricated?

Quote: MDawg

That's funny. In that KewlJ will post THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of words begging, pleading for people to believe him, and yet not one dollar has he ever wagered to back up what he has to say.

Can you please show where I begged or pleaded for people to believe me? If you can't I consider this a lie and you a liar.

As per blackjack: I share my experiences and journey as accurate as I can, just as I have done for I guess about 13 years on different forums. People are free to believe or not believe whatever they like. The only time, I come back is if something I said appears to have been honestly mis-interpreted or misunderstood, then I will try to clarify, because I recognize I am not a great communicator.

AS per opinions on non-blackjack topics and discussion. That is what this forum is. If someone has a different opinion , you may engage in some discussion, to attempt to make your points more clear. Again, THAT is what this forum is.

So I will await that "THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of words begging, pleading for people to believe him" evidence.

Quote: MDawg

It's irrelevant. Are you changing your story now and saying that my stock trades are all genuine but that they are not my own? Besides the absurdity of that concept - what difference would it make if MDawg or MickeyMouse showed up at the Wizard's house? If you're saying that my trades are genuine, then just say so. If they are fake or simulated, then you will win the bet whether MDawg or MickeyMouse shows up at the Wizard's house.

I also addressed whatever excuse you allude to above about whether the $250K will be available. You tell me you are ready to proceed and I will show you an image of my cashier's check same time that you show me yours. I can get a $250K cashier's check same day you request it and expect the same from you. Are you ready to proceed?

Since you seem to like to post "opinions" of others to back yourself up...how about this one.

My theory/story hasn't changed. I've always maintained that someone may actually be doing all the things you claim to be doing. I've always said that I don't believe it's actually you, the person behind the computer screen typing under MDawg.

I'm certain something isn't right. It brings back memories of our very own B79 who used his bosses high rolling status, wife's picture, chip porn, and various other things and claimed them as his own.

Again, I'm not willing to bet a large amount of money on something that could potentially be a CON.

Are you kidding? Nearly every one of your posts is about some theory of yours and why you should be believed. Lately, this has all revolved around RS. You continue with this mission to discredit RS here at WOV, and provide longer and longer posts to establish why you are right about him. That's pretty much all you do lately is post about why your theory about this person or that person or what this person or that person has done should be believed. Including about me.

Okay here it comes...another thousand word post about why you should be believed.

How about...instead...a cash wager? Are MDawg's trades legitimate or are they not? Are MDawg's casino WIN statements legitimate or are they not?

Quote: MDawg

If you are ready to wager the $250,000. I am ready to proceed.

Clearly Napolean complex stuff. :/

Quote: kewlj

Clearly Napolean complex stuff. :/

Say what you like to make yourself seem believable, but that is a clear personal insult.

Why you guys can't carry on a conversation without getting yourselves suspended, is beyond me.

Quote: MDawg

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Why you guys can't carry on a conversation without getting yourselves suspended, is beyond me.

Said the guy who has only been on this forum under MDawg since Sep 27, 2018 and has been suspended at least 9 times. Once for 4 months. MDawg 3/29/20 personal insult, trolling (Martingale)4 Months personal insult, trolling (Martingale)

Quote: MDawg

Are you kidding? Nearly every one of your posts is about some theory of yours and why you should be believed. Lately, this has all revolved around RS. You continue with this mission to discredit RS here at WOV, and provide longer and longer posts to establish why you are right about him. That's pretty much all you do lately is post about why your theory about this person or that person or what this person or that person has done should be believed. Including about me.

Please don't use the initials RS as it is a bit confusing to those in the AP community because there was/is a legitimate, known member of the AP community (and this forum), that chooses to no longer participate here that uses those letters (plus an underscore) as is handle. While the RS that you speak of, is a made up name and fictitious character, as well as all his claims fiction, and not a member here.

The fictitious RS should be discredited, because he has in a decades long troll to mislead and profit from the AP community for DECADES. I apologize that laying out that evidence takes some time and lengthy posts. A real attorney would understand this.

Quote: MDawg

Say what you like to make yourself seem believable, but that is a clear personal insult.

Why you guys can't carry on a conversation without getting yourselves suspended, is beyond me.

This is NOT a personal insult. It is an opinion. If management feels differently, that is fine. But what else can you call it when someone KEEPS making $250,000 challenges. It reveals insecurity. And that is the Napolean complex.

You may misunderstand me in that I am not saying that your posting lengthy evidence is necessarily good or bad. (I think it does belabor the point sometimes, and then the point might get lost, but - that's another issue.) I am just saying that this is what you do, primarily, post lengthy posts about why your theories should be believed. Versus put up cash wagers.

So you do your thing, let me do mine.

Quote: MDawg

So you do your thing, let me do mine.

Sir, you have an agenda here....in the AP community as a whole, which includes this forum, to attempt to build yourself and "stories" up by attempting to tear down a known, respected, successful AP and top poster of this forum in Axelwolf, and I for one don't appreciate it. Also building yourself up by tearing others down, never works.

Quote: kewlj

Please don't use the initials RS as it is a bit confusing to those in the AP community because there was/is a legitimate, known member of the AP community (and this forum), that chooses to no longer participate here that uses those letters (plus an underscore) as is handle. While the RS that you speak of, is a made up name and fictitious character, as well as all his claims fiction, and not a member here.

The fictitious RS should be discredited, because he has in a decades long troll to mislead and profit from the AP community for DECADES. I apologize that laying out that evidence takes some time and lengthy posts. A real attorney would understand this.

I was about to post something similar. Doggonit, I actually miss the real WOV RS (and other posters).

AxelWolf:
Since $250,000. for some reason didn’t pique your interest?? I have another challenge for you, $500,000.

I have posted my WIN statements for the past few years now to back up my constant winning at the casinos. Let’s keep this simple.

I wager $500,000. that every one of the WIN statements I posted for 2020, linked here at WOV on January 30, 2021, is genuine:

Win Wynn/Encore 2020 $77,180.
Win Palms/Green Valley Ranch 2020 $5195.
Win Venetian 2020 $31,270.
Win Cosmopolitan 2020 $20,600.
Win Treasure Island 2020 $700.

Same basic terms as the other wager. Let me know if you wish to proceed and the very same day I will come up with a $500,000. cashier’s check. And again, I am willing to provide you an image of the cashier’s check the same day you request, so long as you provide the same to me, to show you that this is serious and not a waste of anyone’s time.

I will be in Vegas within a few weeks. We meet at the Wizard’s home. You will come with a cashier’s check for $500,000. as will I. I will make my cashier’s check payable to whomever you designate – you will make your cashier’s check payable to whomever I designate.

We will hand the checks to the Wizard to hold in our presence.

We will all three of us sign an NDA as to not disclosing any of the personal identifying or financial information that is revealed during the course of this encounter, under penalty of a heavy liquidated damages clause.

At the Wizard’s, I will login to my casino player accounts. I will provide government identification to verify that the accounts are mine. Upon logging in I will navigate to the 2020 win statements and show them to you to verify that each of the 2020 win statements is correct and as represented above. If you have some other additional means of verifying that the 2020 win statements are as stated, I am happy to accompany you to these five Vegas casinos to verify the same in person.

After you have verified that the 2020 WIN statements are as I have represented, I will take your cashier’s check, you will accompany me to your bank, and ensure that I am able to cash the check. If it turns out that any of WIN statements is not exactly as I have represented them, you win, you get my cashier’s check and I accompany you to my bank to ensure that it is paid. The winner gets both checks, his own, and the check of the loser.

Just to add to the wager, if you may find even one casino anywhere in the world where I played in 2020, other than the five represented above, I lose the entire $500,000. You have the day of the wager, the day we meet at the Wizard’s, to cash in on this aspect of the wager. If you want me to follow you all over town showing my ID at any casino you choose to see if they have any record of my play there, that’s fine with me so long as this aspect of the wager is completed that day.

I will meet you as early in the day as you choose so that we have plenty of time for all of this. After all, $500,000. is at stake. You wouldn’t want to lose it all in just one hour.

OH FOR GOD SAKES!

Quote: MDawg

AxelWolf:
Since $250,000. for some reason didn’t pique your interest?? I have another challenge for you, $500,000.

I have posted my WIN statements for the past few years now to back up my constant winning at the casinos. Let’s keep this simple.

I wager $500,000. that every one of the WIN statements I posted for 2020, linked here at WOV on January 30, 2021, is genuine:

Win Wynn/Encore 2020 $77,180.
Win Palms/Green Valley Ranch 2020 $5195.
Win Venetian 2020 $31,270.
Win Cosmopolitan 2020 $20,600.
Win Treasure Island 2020 $700.

Same basic terms as the other wager. Let me know if you wish to proceed and the very same day I will come up with a $500,000. cashier’s check. And again, I am willing to provide you an image of the cashier’s check the same day you request, so long as you provide the same to me, to show you that this is serious and not a waste of anyone’s time.

I will be in Vegas within a few weeks. We meet at the Wizard’s home. You will come with a cashier’s check for $500,000. as will I. I will make my cashier’s check payable to whomever you designate – you will make your cashier’s check payable to whomever I designate.

We will hand the checks to the Wizard to hold in our presence.

We will all three of us sign an NDA as to not disclosing any of the personal identifying or financial information that is revealed during the course of this encounter, under penalty of a heavy liquidated damages clause.

At the Wizard’s, I will login to my casino player accounts. I will provide government identification to verify that the accounts are mine. Upon logging in I will navigate to the 2020 win statements and show them to you to verify that each of the 2020 win statements is correct and as represented above. If you have some other additional means of verifying that the 2020 win statements are as stated, I am happy to accompany you to these five Vegas casinos to verify the same in person.

After you have verified that the 2020 WIN statements are as I have represented, I will take your cashier’s check, you will accompany me to your bank, and ensure that I am able to cash the check. If it turns out that any of WIN statements is not exactly as I have represented them, you win, you get my cashier’s check and I accompany you to my bank to ensure that it is paid. The winner gets both checks, his own, and the check of the loser.

Just to add to the wager, if you may find even one casino anywhere in the world where I played in 2020, other than the five represented above, I lose the entire $500,000. You have the day of the wager, the day we meet at the Wizard’s, to cash in on this aspect of the wager. If you want me to follow you all over town showing my ID at any casino you choose to see if they have any record of my play there, that’s fine with me so long as this aspect of the wager is completed that day.

I will meet you as early in the day as you choose so that you have plenty of time for all of this. After all, $500,000. is at stake. You wouldn’t want to lose it all in just one hour.

Dude, there is no way in hell I'm reading all this. Please read this again before you make any more challenges. For there ever to be any wager between me and you where I have to go out of my way trusting that you will follow through, show up, or actually pay me. You would first have to prove that you have the ability to pay. You've already been given the opportunity you put money up with no risk and ask for it back without any consequences to prove that you have the ability to pay off any challenges Wagers are bets. I did so myself, and you were supposed to as well. You Somehow talked to Mike out of having to do it based on there not being a meeting of the minds, however I think he was confused as there didn't need to be a meeting of the minds for that particular situation, as you were able to get back your money for any reason. It was simply just to prove you had the ability to pay had we went further.

This sounds like another BIG BET BLUFF!!!!
But, let's for a moment just assume "you" actually did show up with a cashier's check, I would never trust an unknown persons cashiers check since they can easily be faked.

I'm not dumb enough to make a 250k bet like THIS, even if I'm absolutely confident I'm right. Even a millionaire would be willing to let you take over his stock account or whatever shenanigans would be needed to fake something like this just to win 250K. Since you have no personal history with anyone here, no one has ever meet you, no one knows your real name.... it would be far too easy for someone, anyone, to step up in your place and claim to be you in order to win a 250k bet. There would be absolutely no way to know it's actually you, the person sitting behind the computer typing under your handle. For all I know, you handle a rich family member or friends account. You have been trying to get people to put up 50k at the Wynn for some odd reason, that sounds very odd and suspicious to me. BIG RED FLAGS are going off in my head. I'm not saying you are trying to con me, but , I'm thinking there are so many ways I could be conned while participating in a bet like this.

If you are ready to proceed with either Wager I will have the check drawn to any name you choose and send you an image of it (with account numbers redacted to prevent mobile deposit) - BUT, at the same time I will give you a name and you will draw your check to the name I choose. I want to see your check the same day I message you with an image of my check. You may take that image of my cashier's check to my bank it is genuine.
The reason I wrote it up as <<payable to whomever...designate>> is so that you understand that this is not some ploy to get your real name, nor will you get my real name out of this until the day we actually show up and proceed with the bet. Just give me an associate's name and I will give you one of my minion's name for the check. Then when we show up I don't really care to know your real name anyway, but if it is disclosed it will be protected by the NDA we must sign at the Wizard's.

We are talking about cashier's checks. That would be a serious felony to forge something like that, I would never even consider such a thing. And, in Nevada, isn't drawing an instrument with NSF a felony, especially for a quarter or half million? I'm surprised that you would even think along those lines. Which a cashier's check is not a regular check, there is no "NSF" aspect to it, you know that.

And as well, once the wager is concluded I will go with you to my bank to make sure the cashier's check is cashed, if you win, and you must go to your bank with me to make sure your check is cashed if you lose.

I gave serious thought to this. I want to do it. Both of these are well thought out, careful wagers. No games.

Quote: MDawg

If you are ready to proceed with either Wager I will have the check drawn to any name you choose and send you an image of it (with account numbers redacted to prevent mobile deposit) - BUT, at the same time I will give you a name and you will draw your check to the name I choose. I want to see your check the same day I message you with an image of my check. You may take that image of my cashier's check to my bank it is genuine.
The reason I wrote it up as <<payable to whomever...designate>> is so that you understand that this is not some ploy to get your real name, nor will you get my real name out of this until the day we actually show up and proceed with the bet. Just give me an associate's name and I will give you one of my minion's name for the check. Then when we show up I don't really care to know your real name anyway, but if it is disclosed it will be protected by the NDA we must sign at the Wizard's.

We are talking about cashier's checks. That would be a serious felony to forge something like that, I would never even consider such a thing. And, in Nevada, isn't drawing an instrument with NSF a felony, especially for a quarter or half million? I'm surprised that you would even think along those lines. Which a cashier's check is not a regular check, there is no "NSF" aspect to it, you know that.

And as well, once the wager is concluded I will go with you to my bank to make sure the cashier's check is cashed, if you win, and you must go to your bank with me to make sure your check is cashed if you lose.

I gave serious thought to this. I want to do it. Both of these are well thought out, careful wagers. No games.

Again, more crap I'm not reading, so keep typing away.

Where to start...? First of all, I do not know kewlj other than through posting here. But after reading his thousands of posts (many too long!), all his gambling claims scream veracity! He never makes ridiculous claims, like he wins every time, like he wins millions per year, etc... His claims are all reasonable, and easily explained to be consistent with what the math would predict. And never braggadocious.
I have met Axel, and he has actually shown me some of the ways he makes money as an AP, so in addition to believing him, I can vouch for him.

MDawg.... your claims are almost always braggadocious. Which is ok; I'm sure many of mine are as well. It is more the fact that not a single member here has met you.... is why your claims are always doubted. You are proposing 1/2 million dollar bets but aren't willing to just meet a guy for lunch. I think I have met 30+ members here over the years......

I'm not sure what your motive is here.... but be assured you will never take $500,000 from Axel. But I'll tell you what.... if you agreed to meet him, he'd buy you dinner....

All my meals in Vegas are comp'ed I don't need his largesse.

What it comes down to is...this guy has challenged the veracity of my reported trades and casino action. I am willing to wager serious money that he is wrong. You want to take the action? At least you have time to read what I write. 😄 He seems to have time only to challenge my veracity! not to read what it is he is challenging.

Quote: SOOPOO

Where to start...? First of all, I do not know kewlj other than through posting here. But after reading his thousands of posts (many too long!), all his gambling claims scream veracity! He never makes ridiculous claims, like he wins every time, like he wins millions per year, etc... His claims are all reasonable, and easily explained to be consistent with what the math would predict. And never braggadocious.
I have met Axel, and he has actually shown me some of the ways he makes money as an AP, so in addition to believing him, I can vouch for him.

MDawg.... your claims are almost always braggadocious. Which is ok; I'm sure many of mine are as well. It is more the fact that not a single member here has met you.... is why your claims are always doubted. You are proposing 1/2 million dollar bets but aren't willing to just meet a guy for lunch. I think I have met 30+ members here over the years......

I'm not sure what your motive is here.... but be assured you will never take $500,000 from Axel. But I'll tell you what.... if you agreed to meet him, he'd buy you dinner....

I'm not dumb enough to make a wager like this, there are just too many ways one can get conned. I believe he always knew I wouldn't take a bet like this, that's why they call it the BIG BET BLUFF! We are dealing with an anonymous person on the internet. People have done far worst things for far less money. It seems as if MD keeps asking people to put up money for the opportunity to meet him. One must ask themselves why?

Quote: SOOPOO

Where to start...? First of all, I do not know kewlj other than through posting here. But after reading his thousands of posts (many too long!),

SOOPOO aren't you retired? So what better do you have to do than read my "too long" posts? :)

Quote: SOOPOO

all his gambling claims scream veracity! He never makes ridiculous claims, like he wins every time, like he wins millions per year, etc... His claims are all reasonable, and easily explained to be consistent with what the math would predict. And never braggadocious.

Thank you SOOPOO. At the risk of repeating, which I am prone to do, there HAS to be a low bar to clear and that bar is "does the math work?" I have a problem with claims that the math doesn't work. I don't know why it bothers me so much, but it does. Maybe I need to work on that? :/

Will no one rid us of this turbulent priest?

Did you mean turgid?

But even that doesn't quite fit.

Quote: MDawg

Did you mean turgid?

But even that doesn't quite fit.

Meddlesome is the phrase I’ve always heard re Becket. But Google also says turbulent and troublesome.

English history in middle school.

A Man for all Seasons. (That was More though.)

Was that covered in AP European?

Otherwise, I must have missed it.

Quote: kewlj

Can you please show where I begged or pleaded for people to believe me? If you can't I consider this a lie and you a liar.

Making claims without evidence seems to be the new theme. The entire premise of this thread was built on this. MDawg claimed Axel was doing stuff "time and again" yet was unable to provide any example more recent than eight months ago. Now it is claims of kj spending thousands of words begging and pleading. If these claims are not lies, then he should show the evidence. If he is unable to show any evidence, then these claims should be considered lies.

If MD is willing to tell lies about these things, what else might he have told lies about?

If someone is unwilling to accept a monetary wager to back up what he has claimed, what does that mean?

I know I wouldn't place a monetary wager of a large amount with someone who is a liar, because they would be willing to use lies and deceit to make sure the odds are not in my favor.

Explain.

There is no way to manipulate the results of the two wagers I have proposed. They seek to verify the results as posted in the past.

In any case, you know everything I have stated is true as far as what has been said. Or alleged.

What about security? I think you should have at least 2 private security guards behind you at all times.

That's proven to be bad luck. In the distant past there was an incident that led to that casino's assigning a guard to stand behind me whenever I played. Just the thought of the guy looming behind me unsettled me to the point where I'd wished that I had just accepted the loss from the incident and not had the casino make me whole. I don't recall ever winning while that guard was standing behind me.

But this is different we're on your side with you not the casino's side. :)

True - but it still leads to high profile and high energy pomp and circumstance, who wants that when trying to concentrate on winning?

I've seen Drake recently and many other celebrities in the past in the high limit pit or at the tables alone, even without their Entourage.

I actually feel quite safe inside the casino. Before I step outside I won't have anything valuable on me.

Bill Ryan - where is that expression from by the way?

Othello.

Quote: MDawg

True - but it still leads to high profile and high energy pomp and circumstance, who wants that when trying to concentrate on winning?

I've seen Drake recently and many other celebrities in the past in the high limit pit or at the tables alone, even without their Entourage.

I actually feel quite safe inside the casino. Before I step outside I won't have anything valuable on me.

I know all about what happens inside and outside the casino don't forget I work for a large chain of Casino properties. I've been working for security for many years I know what happens in the high-limit rooms on the good side and bad side as well as from the security side. I know what happens in escorting people to and from not only their cars in parking lots with large wins, also people that's coming in as well as escorting them to the airports, private planes and everything else.

Quote: terapined

A dog lives in a basement
Screams to mom upstairs that nobody believes the BS
Mom has no interest here except to back her boy

Over and over
The dog is one bizarre kid
Lives for playing pretend
Do you really need Mom to pop in here to defend you
Frankly I would be embarrassed how much you depend on Mom

Personal insult -- seven days.

Mdawg, the attachment of so much money just really seems like an intentional deal breaker on your part. Doesn't cost $250k or $500K to post here after all. Be reasonable or don't respond to critics and just use your precious time posting away.

Realistically, the only way to pull off a wager like this -- the old "are you who you say you are" kind of thing -- is for the person whose street cred is in doubt to agree to protocols similar to drug testing. In other words, somebody can show up at any time and demand to hang out with the person for awhile to ascertain the reality of that day. Have an open contract like that for a year or thereabouts and it would take an IMF team to pull off hocus pocus.

Anything short of that leaves reality up in the air.

Quote: kewlj

Your constant challenges are a joke. They reveal your huge insecurities with the need for a "peeing" or penis measuring contest. Nothing more.

Personal insult. Three days.

Quote: Wizard

Personal insult. Three days.

Perhaps the real MDawg challenge is attempting to have discourse in his threads without getting suspended

The whole MDawg debate is kind of silly. I like it because it underscores how ridiculous it is when people with anonymous handles try to have serious conversations online. It's like children wearing Halloween masks at recess getting upset when Spider-Man tells everyone he can climb up a wall.

You're trying to have conversations about objective things when the actual names having the conversations could be multiple people posing as one or one person posing as multiple people. It's all pretty absurd.

It's fine to post information to help readers. That's one thing. But debating things back and forth, between fictional characters, has limited utility. You may as well talk to your dog or the wall or Alexa.

Now if everybody posted under real names with real credentials, then you have actual conversations.

You know, like in the day when everyone was in the white pages, and everybody could look you up, and you weren't terrified of being (OMG!) doxed so everyone knew what an ass/pervert you were when you were wearing your Spider-Man mask.

Now, the problem isn't what MDawg says being real or not real. The problem lies in MDawg as five letters on a page not being attached to any real person. So there's no way to prove that MDawg is one person, an entity hosted by many, or an AI program that gets pissy when challenged. Arguing with a ghost is a waste of time.

Let the ghost tell his ghost stories. If people believe in ghosts or ghost stories, well, they'll soon learn better.

To quote Ray Parker Jr, "I don't believe in no ghosts." And you shouldn't either.

Quote: redietz

.... It's like children wearing Halloween masks at recess getting upset when Spider-Man tells everyone he can climb up a wall.
...
You know, like in the day when everyone was in the white pages, and everybody could look you up, and you weren't terrified of being (OMG!) doxed so everyone knew what an ass/pervert you were when you were wearing your Spider-Man mask.

Redietz,

We don't have a post of the decade award, but if we did, I'd nominate you for this, especially that first paragraph.

$:o)