Current Events-nothing Trump
Entire confirmation class at First United Methodist Omaha decided not to join the church at this tim in protest of the UMC’s anti lgbtq policies
"We have spent the year learning about our faith and clarifying our beliefs. Most of us started the confirmation year assuming that we would join the church at the end, But with the action of the general conference in February, we are disappointed about the direction the United Methodist denomination is heading. We are concerned that if we join at this time, we will be sending a message that we approve of this decision. We want to be clear that, while we love our congregation, we believe that the United Methodist policies on LGBTQ+ clergy and same sex marriage are immoral. Depending on how this church responds to the general conference action, we will decide at a later time whether or not to become officially confirmed. But until then, we will continue to stand up against the unjust actions that the denomination is taking. We are not standing just for ourselves, we are standing for every single member of the LGBTQ+ community who is hurting right now, Because we were raised in this church, we believe that if we all stand together as a whole, we can make a difference."
Quote: petroglyphFrom yesterday? Assange sentenced on bail jump. To stand trial for extradition, today? https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2019/05/01/assange-sentenced-50-weeks-for-bogus-bail-charge/
Seems a pretty legit charge. He jumped bail. You have to answer for that.
Its not a bogus charge. He actually jumped bail. That's a fact.
I don't think the US has a strong case
but
Sweden may have a very strong case
Did you read the link? In the UK, he had a legitimate fear of being extradited to the US, and still faces the possibility of execution. In the UK he had a right to seek asylum.Quote: terapinedSeems a pretty legit charge. He jumped bail. You have to answer for that.
Its not a bogus charge. He actually jumped bail. That's a fact.
I don't think the US has a strong case
but
Sweden may have a very strong case
In the link, murderers have received less sentencing. The time in "basically captivity" in the Ecuadoran embassy, in those conditions could have been considered against the 50 weeks.
Sweden already dropped charges in 2017, if you read about the women involved when they found out the charge against Assange, they dropped their complaint.
The entire world knows what this is about, it is about the supreme command of the planet by the US, everything else is just noise. Julian is an Australian citizen, which should allow him protection under his government against what he will probably suffer in US detention.
The war criminals that Assange exposed are not being charged with anything, yet the exposer, the one who allowed the world to see what is done under cover of secrecy, basically, his life is over. Thanks Julian, we used to be a country that held our government accountable. These coming show trials is about much more than what Wiki exposed, much more. It is about "total control" of free speech, nothing less.
The punch line is: it's 300 Church of Scientology high-ranking members, not allowed off their private boat.
Talk about irony. God DOES play dice with the universe.
Swedish rape charge was a sham filed by a private attorney working for US intelligence services.Quote: terapinedSweden may have a very strong case
Quote: FleaStiffSwedish rape charge was a sham filed by a private attorney working for US intelligence services.
You go to Sweden and prove that in a court of law
Quote: terapinedYou go to Sweden and prove that in a court of law
Why do that when we can sit around posting lies all day?
Edited for clarification.
Quote: petroglyphThe war criminals that Assange exposed are not being charged with anything, yet the exposer, the one who allowed the world to see what is done under cover of secrecy, basically, his life is over. Thanks Julian, we used to be a country that held our government accountable. These coming show trials is about much more than what Wiki exposed, much more. It is about "total control" of free speech, nothing less.
Secrecy still going on under Trump. In fact, just as much as ever I imagine.
Quote: rxwineSecrecy still going on under Trump. In fact, just as much as ever I imagine.
Come RX
You know better, look at the name of the thread
In other news, Facebook finally completely banned Alex Jones, Yiannopoulos and Farrakhan
Gee, what took so long
Quote: terapinedCome RX
You know better, look at the name of the thread
Yup, didn't look at it. But that post I responded to was about 99% politics.
Not on my part it wasn't.Quote: rxwineYup, didn't look at it. But that post I responded to was about 99% politics.
Quote: petroglyphNot on my part it wasn't.
Bah. Assange's case is not highly political? C'mon.
Quote: rxwineBah. Assange's case is not highly political? C'mon.
If my post were , which you say was 99% political, it would at least be confined to one country, pol party, or legislative area.
Assange is an Australian, his human rights are being violated in the UK, and he is being requested by a third country, because of his work activity as a news reporter about crimes being committed in even further remote country's. Politics are local, my post covered multiple continents and hemispheres.
These actions are happening regardless of which political party is at the helm in any of those country's.
I am apolitical , I assure you me posting about mankind losing their freedom isn't about favoring one red/blue team over another.
Quote: petroglyphIf my post were , which you say was 99% political, it would at least be confined to one country, pol party, or legislative area.
Assange is an Australian, his human rights are being violated in the UK, and he is being requested by a third country, because of his work activity as a news reporter about crimes being committed in even further remote country's. Politics are local, my post covered multiple continents and hemispheres.
These actions are happening regardless of which political party is at the helm in any of those country's.
I am apolitical , I assure you me posting about mankind losing their freedom isn't about favoring one red/blue team over another.
I think he has a real strong case
so why not fight rather then flee.
I view his case akin to the pentagon papers.
He is locked up in the UK equivalent of Gitmo. He can't flee. UK had guards around the Ecuadorean embassy 24/7, if he stepped out he would have been apprehended. There is no place I can think of he could flee, to, except maybe be a room mate of Eddy Snowden?Quote: terapinedQuote: petroglyphIf my post were , which you say was 99% political, it would at least be confined to one country, pol party, or legislative area.
Assange is an Australian, his human rights are being violated in the UK, and he is being requested by a third country, because of his work activity as a news reporter about crimes being committed in even further remote country's. Politics are local, my post covered multiple continents and hemispheres.
These actions are happening regardless of which political party is at the helm in any of those country's.
I am apolitical , I assure you me posting about mankind losing their freedom isn't about favoring one red/blue team over another.
I think he has a real strong case
so why not fight rather then flee.
I view his case akin to the pentagon papers.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-02/during-first-extradition-hearing-assange-vows-fight-charges
Quote: petroglyphPolitics are local, my post covered multiple continents and hemispheres.
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"...we used to be a country that held our government accountable."
Sounds local to me.
Quote: petroglyphHe is locked up in the UK equivalent of Gitmo. He can't flee. UK had guards around the Ecuadorean embassy 24/7, if he stepped out he would have been apprehended. There is no place I can think of he could flee, to, except maybe be a room mate of Eddy Snowden?Quote: terapinedQuote: petroglyphIf my post were , which you say was 99% political, it would at least be confined to one country, pol party, or legislative area.
Assange is an Australian, his human rights are being violated in the UK, and he is being requested by a third country, because of his work activity as a news reporter about crimes being committed in even further remote country's. Politics are local, my post covered multiple continents and hemispheres.
These actions are happening regardless of which political party is at the helm in any of those country's.
I am apolitical , I assure you me posting about mankind losing their freedom isn't about favoring one red/blue team over another.
I think he has a real strong case
so why not fight rather then flee.
I view his case akin to the pentagon papers.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-02/during-first-extradition-hearing-assange-vows-fight-charges
I believe he has a real strong case in Sweden and the USA
If I feel I have a real strong case, I'm going to court, not fleeing to an embassy
When he fled to the Ecuadoran embassy, he was scared for his life, being charged with rape that he knew he had engaged sex with willing women. And the sex was in Sweden, what was the UK even mentioning it at all for? He didn't rape anyone.Quote: terapinedQuote: petroglyphHe is locked up in the UK equivalent of Gitmo. He can't flee. UK had guards around the Ecuadorean embassy 24/7, if he stepped out he would have been apprehended. There is no place I can think of he could flee, to, except maybe be a room mate of Eddy Snowden?Quote: terapinedQuote: petroglyphIf my post were , which you say was 99% political, it would at least be confined to one country, pol party, or legislative area.
Assange is an Australian, his human rights are being violated in the UK, and he is being requested by a third country, because of his work activity as a news reporter about crimes being committed in even further remote country's. Politics are local, my post covered multiple continents and hemispheres.
These actions are happening regardless of which political party is at the helm in any of those country's.
I am apolitical , I assure you me posting about mankind losing their freedom isn't about favoring one red/blue team over another.
I think he has a real strong case
so why not fight rather then flee.
I view his case akin to the pentagon papers.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-02/during-first-extradition-hearing-assange-vows-fight-charges
I believe he has a real strong case in Sweden and the USA
If I feel I have a real strong case, I'm going to court, not fleeing to an embassy
She is White, he is homeless. City pols can't have people worried about all the homeless camps.
munchausen syndrome - injected them with drugs to make them very sick then tried to help them and be seen as a hero
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/10/world/europe/germany-serial-killer-nurse.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
Quote: lilredroosterincredible story - a German male nurse killed as many as 300 patients
munchausen syndrome - injected them with drugs to make them very sick then tried to help them and be seen as a hero
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/10/world/europe/germany-serial-killer-nurse.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
He probably stole the idea from Law & Order, CSI, NCIS, Criminal Minds, or a slew of other TV shows where that's been the plot.
Another example of liberal hatred of Chick-Fil-A. For those here who still deny it.
That is the first time I've seen Munchausen syndrome used in that way?Quote: lilredroosterincredible story - a German male nurse killed as many as 300 patients
munchausen syndrome - injected them with drugs to make them very sick then tried to help them and be seen as a hero
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/10/world/europe/germany-serial-killer-nurse.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
"Munchausen syndrome is a factitious disorder, a mental disorder in which a person repeatedly and deliberately acts as if he or she has a physical or mental illness when he or she is not really sick. Munchausen syndrome is considered a mental illness because it is associated with severe emotional difficulties.May 20, 2018
Munchausen Syndrome (Factitious disorder) - WebMD"
I thought Munchausens was similar to Hypochondria. But after searching for this definition, I can see it used that way. "https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/9834-factitious-disorder-imposed-on-another-fdia"
Quote: lilredroosterincredible story - a German male nurse killed as many as 300 patients
munchausen syndrome - injected them with drugs to make them very sick then tried to help them and be seen as a hero
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/10/world/europe/germany-serial-killer-nurse.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
Damnit. Some people will do anything to get praise they don't actually deserve.😒
Quote: AZDuffmanCalifornia faculty votes to boot Chick-fil-A off campus, compares Christian chain to selling porn
Another example of liberal hatred of Chick-Fil-A. For those here who still deny it.
At this point liberals are banning CFAs just to trigger people like you who can’t let it go.
https://metro.co.uk/2019/05/08/mums-anger-tesco-substitutes-5-birthday-candle-two-2s-1-9458160/
Just another reason the Holocaust sucked. Assuming Anne Frank would be an incredible piece of ass seems to fit in with these liberal F’s views.
Still waiting for the F’s At the Harvard Lampoon to make fun of Muslims. Perhaps Talib or Omar wearing a suicide vest isn’t funny to them, while many of us consider it a possibility.
Quote: Bozhttps://boston.cbslocal.com/2019/05/14/harvard-lampoon-anne-frank-photoshop-picture/
Just another reason the Holocaust sucked. Assuming Anne Frank would be an incredible piece of ass seems to fit in with these liberal F’s views.
Still waiting for the F’s At the Harvard Lampoon to make fun of Muslims. Perhaps Talib or Omar wearing a suicide vest isn’t funny to them, while many of us consider it a possibility.
Just for you, Boz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLXdZq0wl3Y
Quote: rxwineMom orders a candle shaped like a "5" for her child's birthday cake from local store online. They didn't have a "5" so sent her a "2","2" and a "1".
https://metro.co.uk/2019/05/08/mums-anger-tesco-substitutes-5-birthday-candle-two-2s-1-9458160/
THIS is how you know people are stupid. you get 3 candles for the price of one and then make an article out of it when you could have been trading two candles for money to buy or trade for a 5 and a 6 because next year is coming too
Quote:The provisional report, released Wednesday and based on more than 99% of U.S. birth records, found 3.788 million births last year. It was the fourth year the number of births has fallen, the lowest since 1986 and a surprise to some experts given the improving economy.
I think it is safe to say that society has now changed and the USA in headed in the demographic direction of Europe/Japan. People who want a family are now in the distinct minority. Way in the minority if we took out out-of-wedlock births.
out of nowhere a cop pulls up and tries to arrest the guy claiming he is a fugitive from another state and the dog is not his
WTF
This happened right in front of the guys house. Its his dog. He lives there.
yet
The cop insisted its not his dog and he's does not live there because he is a fugitive from another state
amazing
Eventually the cops have to walk away because they were wrong. Really wrong
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/05/15/clarence-evans-alleged-racial-profiling-video-mistaken-identity/3687516002/
Quote: billryanCop obviously made a mistake. These things happen. Both of them could have handled the situation better, but stuff happens.
Well
All you have to do is look at the pic of the 50 yr old fugitive and see it does not match the face of the 30yr old in his yard with his dog, watching his kids play
Quote: billryanThat guy looked more than thirty to me. Not having seen the incident from the beginning doesn't give us the whole story but I don't think the cop did anything that calls out for disciplinary actions or an investigation.
He was innocent
The police were trying to arrest an innocent man when they held the evidence showing he was innocent.
Barney fife left the picture in his car.
Barney Fife insisted on taking away a mans freedom 1st, then they will check the evidence
It does not work that way, you look at the evidence 1st to determine if the person is the fugitive then arrest.
As soo an they compared the pic to the face, they immediately knew they had the wrong guy and walked away
Quote: billryanIf the guy had walked over to the car, it would have ended earlier and easier. Cops do a lot of bad things. I just don't see this as one. Your opinion differs.
This is America. If he does not want to walk over to the cop car, he does not have to.
Its the police's job to determine if there is enough evidence to arrest.
The cop decided to try to arrest 1st, then determine if there is evidence to arrest
That's not how it works in the country
If I was in my front yard and a cop pulled up and tried to arrest me with no evidence, I would be livid
What would you want done? Fire the cop? Give the victim a few million bucks?
He quietly showed his ID, answered some questions and they released him realizing their mistake.
It wasnt a big deal.
My dad told that story for years with a happy grin on his face. It was one of his favorites
Quote: billryanA Texas cop is driving around with a warrant from out of state. Do you think it was a coincidence?
What would you want done? Fire the cop? Give the victim a few million bucks?
Fire the cop
You cant arrest an innocent man 1st then look at the evidence later
You look at the evidence 1st then determine if an arrest is warranted
Quote: terapinedFire the cop
You cant arrest an innocent man 1st then look at the evidence later
You look at the evidence 1st then determine if an arrest is warranted
There was no arrest.
Furthermore the cop quietly asked repeatedly to see ID which would have defused the situation immediately.
"Here officer is my ID. Thats my name. Not the person you are looking for correct?"
Instead the black guy played the indignant card so he could get a viral video.
Screaming "My name isnt Quentin" is a total retarded thing to do. Show your ID.
Cant imagine he owns a house and has no ID but maybe that was the real problem. He had no ID to show.
Otherwise its just an officer making an identity mistake which resulted in nothing beyond a stop and release
Lady, you cant see that tiny picture. Talk about escalating an incident for sheer stupidity
The black guy got one thing right though. He says. "This is how innocent black guys are killed by cops" Hell, yeah, act stupid when the situation could have easily been settled.
Quote: darkoz
"Here officer is my ID. Thats my name. Not the person you are looking for correct?"
Instead the black guy played the indignant card so he could get a viral video.
I don't think you can say whether that specific guy was overreacting. The way you look, and preconceived notions can make you run into profile issues all the time.
Why do you end up getting tired of being hassled over the same thing again and again? Pretty normal I'd say after so many times of the same issue. Being followed by store security. People watching you looking at items when you're doing nothing more unusual than someone else in the store.
OTOH, that's also a guess.
Quote: darkoz
The black guy got one thing right though. He says. "This is how innocent black guys are killed by cops" Hell, yeah, act stupid when the situation could have easily been settled.
That is completely right. But not just get killed. From that Black professor that got arrested which ended up in a "beer summit" to the two Black guys loitering in Starbucks. It is almost as if there is some cultural thing that says Blacks are not allowed to just politely interact when challenged to defuse the situation. It happens over and over. Male and female, doesn't matter.
Any self-defense class teacher will stress that you de-escalate the situation first, fight as a last resort. Normal people do not escalate things. Too many Blacks never learned this lesson.
Quote: darkoz
Furthermore the cop quietly asked repeatedly to see ID which would have defused the situation immediately.
This is not Nazi Germany
The gestapo cannot walk around and demand your papers
This is the United States of America.
If the citizen is not committing a crime, you don't have to show ID. That's the law.
I know cops get real frustrated that they don't have the right to demand ID even though they do it all the time.
This cop was frustrated. The correct action is to not deprive an innocent citizen of his freedom but to examine the evidence.
If he did that, he would see the pic does not match
It does make the cops job harder when you refuse to show ID but you have that right. If you cant deal with US citizens exercising their legal rights, maybe you shouldn't be a cop
Quote: terapinedThis is not Nazi Germany
The gestapo cannot walk around and demand your papers
This is the United States of America.
If the citizen is not committing a crime, you don't have to show ID. That's the law.
I know cops get real frustrated that they don't have the right to demand ID even though they do it all the time.
This cop was frustrated. The correct action is to not deprive an innocent citizen of his freedom but to examine the evidence.
If he did that, he would see the pic does not match
It does make the cops job harder when you refuse to show ID but you have that right. If you cant deal with US citizens exercising their legal rights, maybe you shouldn't be a cop
Nonetheless there is normal police procedures to catch fugitives by distributing pictures of that person.
There are people who look alike even down to doppelgangers (celebrity doppelgangers can even make a living off of it)
It is not unreasonable that an officer may be on the lookout for someone that resembles you and he would be remiss if he did find the actual criminal and released him because he claimed constitutionally he didnt need to show ID.
If you fit the description of a known criminal it makes sense to simply show ID.
That is partially its purpose. For you to establish who you truly are.
