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May 19th, 2019 at 7:47:17 AM permalink
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I should have expected that as a reply. Some people don't mind crowded. Some like the hustle-bustle. Anything south of the Tap was too congested for me. Long Island? Fugheddabaddit! First time I was there I could not get how people lived in all that. Back to the city, when I still believed I could work my way up at the bank they had an analyst training program. You stayed for 6 months in the Village in some apartment the company had. Several of us thought it would be cool for 6 months. We all agreed after that, get me the flip out of here!

To keep being fair, NYC is as I alluded to, a place you have to go, or almost have to go, to break-in for certain industries. For finance, in most mid-size cities, there are 1-3 decent sized places that might hire you. To take Buffalo, HSBC is the biggie, with a smaller 1-2 that ebb and flow in hiring. In NYC, you are around it all, finance capital of the world, even with losing position to the Dubais and Singapores. You have to go there to make your bones. Fashion? Good luck in Rochester, is Hickey Freeman even still there? In NYC you again have dozens of places to try.

In return for this, a dump of a place to live costs what the best parts of Buffalo/Rochester/Albany do. You get the kinds of problems that less dense areas simply do not get. It's why the net domestic out-migration. People move there to do that make your bones thing. Few want to stay. Meanwhile, people there see how much better then can live elsewhere, and move.



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I grew up in Los Angeles, partly Orange County. Santa Monica had clean beaches, Orange County had conservative congressmen, and police used to pick up homeless people and give them 3 hots and a cot in the county jail so they could get healthy. Fast forward 40 years, the number of major state prisons has gone from 12 to 32, all overcrowded. It takes a half hour to drive two miles on the 405 freeway. And if Ronald Reagan came back to life there are not enough fans of his to elect him dog catcher, let alone governor. Homeless are everywhere, every freeway offramp has someone with a cardboard sign who will work for beer. I'm not 20 now, I would not visit Los Angeles for a weekend. It would take me hours to drive there, and everyone is dead anyway. Where I live there are miles and miles of farms, struggling in an anti-business environment. But they can't just pick up their vineyards and orchards and move to a business-friendly state. But the rest of us can. And we're going.
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May 19th, 2019 at 7:51:04 AM permalink
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Please suspend yourself. In the "anything but Trump thread" this is what you post!




Sounds like she needs to hit a couple big jackpots, and chill. lol

Gosh, she must love my drivel. But she has been very fair and patient with me, I must say that. :-)
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May 19th, 2019 at 8:34:56 AM permalink
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At least the corn fields don't have the urine soaked smell that the streets of NYC has, especially on a hot summer afternoon.



You mean those places filled with cow sh$t and the smell of barn animals.

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May 19th, 2019 at 8:40:24 AM permalink
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I grew up in Los Angeles, partly Orange County. Santa Monica had clean beaches, Orange County had conservative congressmen, and police used to pick up homeless people and give them 3 hots and a cot in the county jail so they could get healthy. Fast forward 40 years, the number of major state prisons has gone from 12 to 32, all overcrowded. It takes a half hour to drive two miles on the 405 freeway. And if Ronald Reagan came back to life there are not enough fans of his to elect him dog catcher, let alone governor. Homeless are everywhere, every freeway offramp has someone with a cardboard sign who will work for beer. I'm not 20 now, I would not visit Los Angeles for a weekend. It would take me hours to drive there, and everyone is dead anyway. Where I live there are miles and miles of farms, struggling in an anti-business environment. But they can't just pick up their vineyards and orchards and move to a business-friendly state. But the rest of us can. And we're going.



I said it here before, CA is becoming Brazil. Both have similar geography that squeezes people at the coast then mountain ranges that prevent building further out. This inflates property values. Now both have high-priced cities surrounded by slums or/and filled with homeless. The income inequality the people say they hate is what they live in and it keeps getting worse out there.
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May 19th, 2019 at 8:47:43 AM permalink
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You mean those places filled with cow sh$t and the smell of barn animals.

I will stick with NY




I hear they grow the food in the back of the supermarket.
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May 19th, 2019 at 8:51:14 AM permalink
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I said it here before, CA is becoming Brazil. Both have similar geography that squeezes people at the coast then mountain ranges that prevent building further out. This inflates property values. Now both have high-priced cities surrounded by slums or/and filled with homeless. The income inequality the people say they hate is what they live in and it keeps getting worse out there.




The way they have elections here now, there are positions where a democrat runs against another democrat and there is no republican on the ballot. This last election there were at least three spots on my ballot like that. I just left them blank.
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May 19th, 2019 at 9:06:47 AM permalink
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The way they have elections here now, there are positions where a democrat runs against another democrat and there is no republican on the ballot. This last election there were at least three spots on my ballot like that. I just left them blank.



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May 19th, 2019 at 9:11:15 AM permalink
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The way they have elections here now, there are positions where a democrat runs against another democrat and there is no republican on the ballot. This last election there were at least three spots on my ballot like that. I just left them blank.



I have had one unopposed Democrat. I write in "John Galt."
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May 19th, 2019 at 9:16:11 AM permalink
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lol I know you think I'm an "a-hole republican", but you may find this interesting. Or not. But in the 40 years or so that I have been voting, I have never voted for president, I only vote local issues and local politicians. I din't even vote for Reagan, mainly because of his running mate. It would be a cold day before I would ever vote for a member of The Bush Crime Family. I think the only time I voted for president and didn't leave it blank was when Ron Paul ran, whenever that was, and that was not a serious candidate anyway. I'm republican, but I would not vote for a Bush, a McCain, a Romney, if you held me down and made me eat beets.
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May 19th, 2019 at 9:21:45 AM permalink
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I have had one unopposed Democrat. I write in "John Galt."




Are you from Arizona? If so, do you remember Governor Mecham? I liked that guy.
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May 19th, 2019 at 10:07:48 AM permalink
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The way they have elections here now, there are positions where a democrat runs against another democrat and there is no republican on the ballot. This last election there were at least three spots on my ballot like that. I just left them blank.



Do you think a republican should earn a ballot spot just because they are a republican or should the election be between the top vote getters.
Using an extreme example, if 100,000 votes are cast in the Democratic primary and a person wins with 50.5%, and 1,000 votes are cast in the Republican one, who belongs on the fall ballot? The guy who lost with 49,000 votes or the guy who won with 600?
The Constitution certainly doesn't call for elections between two parties. One man ,one vote. Not one election, two parties.
I'd like to see elections be between the candidates most likely to win, not anointed by a party boss.
If either of the major parties is so weak in an area as to attract 20% of the electorate, why reward them with a ballot spot.
In NY, it used to be if a party drew 50,000 votes in the gubernatorial election, they gained automatic ballot lines for the next four years. Both major parties learned to game the system and kept creating subparties to gain more lines. The Working Families Party was formed by, and was a subsidiary of the Democrats, running the same candidates, but taking up a line some other party might have used.

In much of the country, winning your parties nomination means winning election. I imagine a race between two Rs in Wyoming would be much more competitive than the way elections are now.
Take my old district. My Congressman, Joe Crowley, was so busy making future plans to run the House that he lost sight of the District and was upset in a very low turn out primary. There is no doubt that had he run in the Fall as an Independent, he'd be re elected, perhaps in a landslide. Rumour is the Republicans were so scared of AOC that they offered Crowley the Republican line. He stayed out, and she won with about 90% of the vote. I suspect you wish the choice in that election was between two Democrats.
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May 19th, 2019 at 10:26:26 AM permalink
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Do you think a republican should earn a ballot spot just because they are a republican or should the election be between the top vote getters.
Using an extreme example, if 100,000 votes are cast in the Democratic primary and a person wins with 50.5%, and 1,000 votes are cast in the Republican one, who belongs on the fall ballot? The guy who lost with 49,000 votes or the guy who won with 600?
The Constitution certainly doesn't call for elections between two parties. One man ,one vote. Not one election, two parties.
I'd like to see elections be between the candidates most likely to win, not anointed by a party boss.
If either of the major parties is so weak in an area as to attract 20% of the electorate, why reward them with a ballot spot.
In NY, it used to be if a party drew 50,000 votes in the gubernatorial election, they gained automatic ballot lines for the next four years. Both major parties learned to game the system and kept creating subparties to gain more lines. The Working Families Party was formed by, and was a subsidiary of the Democrats, running the same candidates, but taking up a line some other party might have used.

In much of the country, winning your parties nomination means winning election. I imagine a race between two Rs in Wyoming would be much more competitive than the way elections are now.
Take my old district. My Congressman, Joe Crowley, was so busy making future plans to run the House that he lost sight of the District and was upset in a very low turn out primary. There is no doubt that had he run in the Fall as an Independent, he'd be re elected, perhaps in a landslide. Rumour is the Republicans were so scared of AOC that they offered Crowley the Republican line. He stayed out, and she won with about 90% of the vote. I suspect you wish the choice in that election was between two Democrats.




I guess it should be up to each state. You are certainly right about parties. George Washington did not run for a party. I think an office should be a job with certain responsibilities no matter what party you belong to. They all take an oath to uphold the Constitution. Few do.

I agree with much of what you said, an interesting post, but I see you still like to put a few words in my mouth. That's ok, Bill, just be easy on your assumptions.

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May 19th, 2019 at 10:28:01 AM permalink
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Are you from Arizona? If so, do you remember Governor Mecham? I liked that guy.



I lived there 2005-2008.
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May 19th, 2019 at 10:34:17 AM permalink
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Do you think a republican should earn a ballot spot just because they are a republican or should the election be between the top vote getters.



An interesting question. On the other hand, should one party be allowed to monopolize the ballot in the general, or should some real choice be allowed. Because the danger is becoming a one-party system. Mexico and Japan de-facto have that, not to the best results.
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May 19th, 2019 at 10:44:47 AM permalink
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An interesting question. On the other hand, should one party be allowed to monopolize the ballot in the general, or should some real choice be allowed. Because the danger is becoming a one-party system. Mexico and Japan de-facto have that, not to the best results.




California is now basically a one-party system. Once the state of Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon, republicans now have very little clout here. The dems have a super majority. Last election was a disaster for my view. Every candidate and every proposition that I voted for or against, went the opposite way. There was only one prop that went my way, the one for better conditions for farm animals.

There's nothing I can do about it, but just remember, we grow a lot of food here. And the Ukraine was once the breadbasket of Europe, before they collectivized the farms and starved 20 million people.
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May 19th, 2019 at 11:19:37 AM permalink
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California is now basically a one-party system. Once the state of Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon, republicans now have very little clout here. The dems have a super majority. Last election was a disaster for my view. Every candidate and every proposition that I voted for or against, went the opposite way. There was only one prop that went my way, the one for better conditions for farm animals.

There's nothing I can do about it, but just remember, we grow a lot of food here. And the Ukraine was once the breadbasket of Europe, before they collectivized the farms and starved 20 million people.



It did amaze me how much agriculture CA had the one time I drove across it. Might just be a matter of time before it gets screwed up. Instead of collectivization look for the enviros to make farming impossible, little by little.
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May 19th, 2019 at 12:22:17 PM permalink
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California is now basically a one-party system. Once the state of Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon, republicans now have very little clout here. The dems have a super majority. Last election was a disaster for my view. Every candidate and every proposition that I voted for or against, went the opposite way. There was only one prop that went my way, the one for better conditions for farm animals.

There's nothing I can do about it, but just remember, we grow a lot of food here. And the Ukraine was once the breadbasket of Europe, before they collectivized the farms and starved 20 million people.



https://klipy.org/california-7th-congressional-district-map/house-and-presidential-party-winner-by-district-california-map-with-cities-california-7th-congressional-district-map/

I'm posting this map, not as a way to bring "He who we shall not mention" in to the discussion, but to show there are areas of CA where common sense still is trying to hold on and everyone isn't looking for a handout or feels they are a victim. But you are right, while they control a large amount of area, they have little say in how the state operates as a whole.
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May 19th, 2019 at 12:35:18 PM permalink
Reuters news organization investigative report from 2016 exposes a major casino's monkey business in recruiting and retaining Asian whales including credit scams and enabling money laundering

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-vegas-shell/

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May 19th, 2019 at 1:30:48 PM permalink
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It did amaze me how much agriculture CA had the one time I drove across it. Might just be a matter of time before it gets screwed up. Instead of collectivization look for the enviros to make farming impossible, little by little.



One thing I see happening is some major consolidation. In this valley there used to be so many small independent farmers, and now it is just one big corp swallowing them up one by one. I think you're right about "enviros". It takes years to approve building a new cold storage. I don't know anyone who cares more about the land than the farmers who make their living off it.

Speaking of food in this valley, if you look at Interstate 5 going up the hill toward Los Angeles just before the sun comes up you can see the red tail lights of hundreds and hundreds of trucks going to market. Hundreds! Most are loaded with food.
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May 19th, 2019 at 1:31:07 PM permalink
What is the process in California? Do they have a primary open to all and then the top two move on to the main election?
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May 19th, 2019 at 1:35:26 PM permalink
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https://klipy.org/california-7th-congressional-district-map/house-and-presidential-party-winner-by-district-california-map-with-cities-california-7th-congressional-district-map/

I'm posting this map, not as a way to bring "He who we shall not mention" in to the discussion, but to show there are areas of CA where common sense still is trying to hold on and everyone isn't looking for a handout or feels they are a victim. But you are right, while they control a large amount of area, they have little say in how the state operates as a whole.




I clicked your link, that's amazing. You are right, in Sacramento, the dems dominate everything. I don't know how it has gotten like this. Except one thing for sure, the dems take it VERY VERY seriously. They want to rule. And they've got dirty tricks, they're experts at it.

Thanks for the link.
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May 19th, 2019 at 1:39:55 PM permalink
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What is the process in California? Do they have a primary open to all and then the top two move on to the main election?




I think so. I dunno. I'm stupid on this sh*t. Hey Bill, I know you think I know everything, but I don't. SURPRISE. I just know most everything.
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May 19th, 2019 at 2:27:33 PM permalink
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I clicked your link, that's amazing. You are right, in Sacramento, the dems dominate everything. I don't know how it has gotten like this. Except one thing for sure, the dems take it VERY VERY seriously. They want to rule. And they've got dirty tricks, they're experts at it.

Thanks for the link.



Same thing just happened in Albany. If you are a Republican in the Assembly or Senate you have ZERO power. The only check on the state government is that they cannot just print money like the Federal government can. I'm sure the 'separate NY into two states, upstate and metro NYC', will be a topic.

For years the NY Senate was Republican, requiring compromise. I think it worked well for NY.
The House being Democrat now requires compromise on a Federal level. I prefer that to all 3 Repub or all 3 Dem.
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May 19th, 2019 at 4:43:34 PM permalink
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One thing I see happening is some major consolidation. In this valley there used to be so many small independent farmers, and now it is just one big corp swallowing them up one by one. I think you're right about "enviros". It takes years to approve building a new cold storage. I don't know anyone who cares more about the land than the farmers who make their living off it.



My thinking is the enviros will starve the farmers of water, which has already happened in some parts. Maybe "runoff" will be regulated. Or even importation of bees for the pollination season.
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May 19th, 2019 at 6:05:09 PM permalink
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My thinking is the enviros will starve the farmers of water, which has already happened in some parts. Maybe "runoff" will be regulated. Or even importation of bees for the pollination season.



California is mainly dependent on what happens in 7 other states as far as water because it's part of the Colorado River Compact. Back there by Las Vegas they check levels of lake Mead. Are we still in drought conditions in Lake Mead? When I was there we were.

I don't know what the conditions are there, but the growth in Nevada can directly affect what water is available to other states and vice versa. I don't know what the "environs" want to do, but they're probably right.

edit 6 states, as Cal makes number 7
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May 19th, 2019 at 7:24:36 PM permalink
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California is mainly dependent on what happens in 7 other states as far as water because it's part of the Colorado River Compact. Back there by Las Vegas they check levels of lake Mead. Are we still in drought conditions in Lake Mead? When I was there we were.

I don't know what the conditions are there, but the growth in Nevada can directly affect what water is available to other states and vice versa. I don't know what the "environs" want to do, but they're probably right.

edit 6 states, as Cal makes number 7




Google "Delta Smelt".

We've had a ton of rain this year, still raining in mid-May. A nice snow pack in the mountains will water the crops in August. But it was rough a few years ago, like four winters in a row with zero rain. It was awful.
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May 19th, 2019 at 7:25:45 PM permalink
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My thinking is the enviros will starve the farmers of water, which has already happened in some parts. Maybe "runoff" will be regulated. Or even importation of bees for the pollination season.




You've probably heard of the "Delta Smelt" controversy.
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May 19th, 2019 at 7:37:56 PM permalink
San Diego region pretty consistently overdrew/overdraw their agreed upon amount of water from Colorado River/Lake Mead i recall reading from years ago. Anyway, you can’t get any more hypocrital than SoCal regarding environmental concerns, or anything for that matter. Fly into Palm Springs once, all you see is barren desert for at least a hundred miles in any direction and then all of a sudden just large land masses of lush golf courses....and then when you land and go into the restroom the faucets have signs about conserving water, that conserving water is their way of life. If your golfing in the middle of the desert you give up any reasonable way of being able to say a damn word to anyone about saving water.
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May 19th, 2019 at 7:41:07 PM permalink
Lake Meade is projected to rise very slightly this year, the first time this has occurred in many years.
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May 21st, 2019 at 12:07:20 PM permalink
Study: 75 American Colleges Offer Black-Only Graduation Ceremonies

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A study by the National Association of Scholars revealed that at least 75 American colleges have black-only graduation ceremonies and 43 percent of surveyed colleges offer segregated residential halls. The organization refers to this as “neo-segregation.”



The Balkanization of Higher Education! So much for "Diversity on campus."
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May 21st, 2019 at 12:50:04 PM permalink
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Study: 75 American Colleges Offer Black-Only Graduation Ceremonies

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A study by the National Association of Scholars revealed that at least 75 American colleges have black-only graduation ceremonies and 43 percent of surveyed colleges offer segregated residential halls. The organization refers to this as “neo-segregation.”



The Balkanization of Higher Education! So much for "Diversity on campus."



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May 21st, 2019 at 1:24:17 PM permalink
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Study: 75 American Colleges Offer Black-Only Graduation Ceremonies

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A study by the National Association of Scholars revealed that at least 75 American colleges have black-only graduation ceremonies and 43 percent of surveyed colleges offer segregated residential halls. The organization refers to this as “neo-segregation.”



The Balkanization of Higher Education! So much for "Diversity on campus."



The pot calling the kettle white



I don't get your point.
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May 22nd, 2019 at 2:40:00 AM permalink
Nevada legislature passes bill to bypass US Constitution and disenfranchise state voters.

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Nevada legislature passes bill to bypass US Constitution and disenfranchise state voters.

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And you didnt notice the same thing happening in Alabama with abortion and womens constitutional rights?
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May 22nd, 2019 at 6:13:57 AM permalink
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Nevada legislature passes bill to bypass US Constitution and disenfranchise state voters.

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And you didnt notice the same thing happening in Alabama with abortion and womens constitutional rights?



How is it the same?
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May 22nd, 2019 at 6:24:52 AM permalink
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Nevada legislature passes bill to bypass US Constitution and disenfranchise state voters.

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Awesome!

Imagine the scenario where Donny somehow picks up NV in 2020 but loses the popular vote again. He'd be denied those electoral votes.

That'd be sweeeeeeet.

EDIT: Nevermind: "The agreement will go into effect only if the cumulative total of the states' electoral votes surpasses the 270 necessary for a majority. "
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May 22nd, 2019 at 6:40:42 AM permalink
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Nevada legislature passes bill to bypass US Constitution and disenfranchise state voters.

Headline modified to show the truth.



And you didnt notice the same thing happening in Alabama with abortion and womens constitutional rights?



How is it the same?



How is it not?

You are upset over constitutional rights of americans, correct?

The supreme court has determined (as constitutionally is their right) that abortion is legal.

How come you are not upset about a state violating constitutional rights in Alabama with abortion but you claim there is outrage when it comes to voting issues?
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May 22nd, 2019 at 6:50:33 AM permalink
Maybe one of our many Constitutional experts can tell us how the Nevada law violates the Constitution. Or even what the Constitution says about how the process works?
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May 22nd, 2019 at 7:27:53 AM permalink
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Maybe one of our many Constitutional experts can tell us how the Nevada law violates the Constitution. Or even what the Constitution says about how the process works?



Simple. The states are to choose electors, not to send electors based on the national vote. Intent and spirit of the law.
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May 22nd, 2019 at 7:32:55 AM permalink
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How is it not?

You are upset over constitutional rights of americans, correct?

The supreme court has determined (as constitutionally is their right) that abortion is legal.

How come you are not upset about a state violating constitutional rights in Alabama with abortion but you claim there is outrage when it comes to voting issues?



It is not for the same reason I am not upset about it. SCOTUS has allowed regulation of abortion.

Here's the thing. These latest bills would not have passed had places like NY not passed laws allowing what amounts to infanticide. Had they not been celebrating abortion by lighting up buildings and putting up billboards. AL responded by doing what they think needs done to protect the culture.

A high abortion rate is a sign of a sickly, declining society (e.g.: FSU since late 1990s.) A society that celebrates abortion is an unquestionably sickly society.
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May 22nd, 2019 at 7:45:32 AM permalink
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It is not for the same reason I am not upset about it. SCOTUS has allowed regulation of abortion.

Here's the thing. These latest bills would not have passed had places like NY not passed laws allowing what amounts to infanticide. Had they not been celebrating abortion by lighting up buildings and putting up billboards. AL responded by doing what they think needs done to protect the culture.

A high abortion rate is a sign of a sickly, declining society (e.g.: FSU since late 1990s.) A society that celebrates abortion is an unquestionably sickly society.



A high abortion rate is a sign of an ignorant, repressed, patriarchial society. Making up your own conclusions doesn't change the facts.abortion needs to stay legal, but become rarer through sex education, cheap and available birth control, and men taking responsibility in those cases where they currently are not.

Had that vasectomy yet?

You've made it my business with your woman-blaming and -shaming and intrusion into my Constitutional rights, so let's hear about it.
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May 22nd, 2019 at 8:44:36 AM permalink
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A high abortion rate is a sign of an ignorant, repressed, patriarchial society. Making up your own conclusions doesn't change the facts.abortion needs to stay legal, but become rarer through sex education, cheap and available birth control, and men taking responsibility in those cases where they currently are not.



Her body, her responsibility. 10+ methods of BC available to women. 1 to men, the most accident-prone and ineffective method. If women are as smart as and equal to men they can do this. To say the man has to take the lead is to say women are not capable.

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Had that vasectomy yet?



If I was actively dating I surely would.

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You've made it my business with your woman-blaming and -shaming and intrusion into my Constitutional rights, so let's hear about it.



I do not "bash women." I do respond to misandry. I do hold women to the same standards as men. Equality is about more than women doing the fun stuff men do.

As to intrusion to Constitutional rights, if I am an offender then you are as well based on your positions on guns.
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May 22nd, 2019 at 8:47:41 AM permalink
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Simple. The states are to choose electors, not to send electors based on the national vote. Intent and spirit of the law.



If you vote for an elector who is pledged to vote for the national viewfinder, how is that a violation of anything? The Constitution doesn't specify how they are to vote.
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May 22nd, 2019 at 9:17:39 AM permalink
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If you vote for an elector who is pledged to vote for the national viewfinder, how is that a violation of anything? The Constitution doesn't specify how they are to vote.



It is the "spirit" of the way electors are supposed to be chosen. It was intended to be state by state, or at the least congressional district. It was not about states simply ratifying a national choice.

Look at 2016. The national vote was for Hillary based on just one state, CA. That needs to be balanced out so the other states are not ignored. EC also mitigates voter fraud in places like CA, IL, and NY. In a close election, party control of just a few states allows all kinds of games.
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May 22nd, 2019 at 9:26:52 AM permalink
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It is the "spirit" of the way electors are supposed to be chosen. It was intended to be state by state, or at the least congressional district. It was not about states simply ratifying a national choice.

Look at 2016. The national vote was for Hillary based on just one state, CA. That needs to be balanced out so the other states are not ignored. EC also mitigates voter fraud in places like CA, IL, and NY. In a close election, party control of just a few states allows all kinds of games.



Do you really believe this nonsense or are you just trying to get a rise out of people ?
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May 22nd, 2019 at 9:48:52 AM permalink
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Do you really believe this nonsense or are you just trying to get a rise out of people ?



I repeat, there are russian troll factories on here.

Beware!

Americans cant be as ridiculous as some of the posters on here

There is nothing wrong with making opposing logical arguments but thats not what some posters put up here. Its stuff juat to get a rise and divide us
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May 22nd, 2019 at 9:49:03 AM permalink
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Do you really believe this nonsense or are you just trying to get a rise out of people ?



Spirit of the law is used all the time in legal cases.

That CA gave Hillary her entire margin is not disputable.

That just a few states could allow voter fraud to tip an election is easily possible. Just a few million votes. Easy to find in 70+ million people.

What's the problem?
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May 23rd, 2019 at 2:56:57 PM permalink
New York Times op-ed calls out 'unlivable' conditions in Democratic-led cities

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n the op-ed, titled "America’s Cities Are Unlivable. Blame Wealthy Liberals," author Farhad Manjoo wrote of the "developing-world nightmare" unfolding in his home state.



Seems I remember some of the folk here getting upset that I called CA out for Third World conditions. Glad to have the NYT on board!
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June 9th, 2019 at 4:32:31 PM permalink
National Park Quietly Removed Warning That Glaciers ‘Will All Be Gone’ By 2020 After Years Of Heavy Snowfall

But the scientists said they would be gone!

Maybe they will get one right one day.
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June 9th, 2019 at 6:12:13 PM permalink
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National Park Quietly Removed Warning That Glaciers ‘Will All Be Gone’ By 2020 After Years Of Heavy Snowfall

But the scientists said they would be gone!

Maybe they will get one right one day.



So 70% of the glaciers have disappeared since 1850 in that location and you are celebrating victory?

Thats according to that same article

There is a difference between getting an estimate wrong and getting an entire theory wrong.

Like when a cancer patient given 6 months to live and actually dies in 12 you go around scoffing at the doctors because their estimate for the inevitable was wrong, even though the overall prediction was correct
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